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Posted at 9:15 AM ET, 01/13/2011

Heal thyself, Sen. Webb

By Jennifer Rubin

My home-state senator, Jim Webb (D.-Va.), made a remarkable statement yesterday. The Virginian-Pilot reported on his appearance in Norfolk:

The Obama administration "did a really terrible job handling health care reform," he said, because the president relied on Congress to draft a plan.

"You can't turn something that complicated loose on the United States Congress," he said, adding that the resulting debate led to great public confusion.

"People got scared. People got mad.... We lost an enormous amount of time on health care.... Both sides made bad mistakes."

Wait a second. Didn't he vote for the monstrous bill? Well, sure. He was the 60th Senator -- each Democrat was -- on the critical cloture vote. So is he saying he didn't know how bad the bill was, or is he saying he cast a bad vote? Neither answer is a winner.

It's not clear that he is going to seek re-election, but if so, he better be able to answer those questions.

By Jennifer Rubin  | January 13, 2011; 9:15 AM ET
Categories:  Senate Democrats  
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Comments

Uhh...can he say he was just following orders?

Posted by: aardunza | January 13, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

He seems to be saying both sides made political mistakes in pushing their positions, actually.

Posted by: Section506 | January 13, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Is there a bug in the code? After my first comment, Right Turn still says Comments(0) ??

Posted by: aardunza | January 13, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Webb ought to stick to writing mediocre fiction and playing professional "scotch- irishman."
He is apparently way over his head in the "mentally challenging" US senate.
ROFLMAO

Posted by: graywolf98 | January 13, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Hmm. MOre and more Democrats are acknowledging that the law is very bad. Maybe repeal is not that far away after all?

Posted by: ojfl | January 13, 2011 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Is Jim Webb brain-damaged? Is he saying the Bill he signed, where he signed off on a cloture motion, was a bad bill that never should have been written? Sheesh! What are they feeding these people?

Posted by: pijacobsen | January 13, 2011 7:33 PM | Report abuse

One of the largest money bills in the Nations history, one that could ruin our country financially and the so called Democrats didn't have time to read it but they voted for it. They voted to ruin what everyone else in the world was saying was the best to be replaced with something that is arguably the worst. "You have to sign it first before you can find out what is in the bill." said Ms. Pelosi. Anyone who signed the bill after hearing what Pelosi said, should never be able to hold public office again.

Posted by: rnord | January 13, 2011 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Dear Democrats:

Your Democrat compatriots in Congress are insane. Or just following orders. Hmm?? Where have I heard that before. Certainly, not an episode of Hogan's Heroes.

Posted by: TentativeInfidel | January 13, 2011 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Just the immoral and insufferable idea that the Federal government will force you to buy something is in itself unconstitutional. This is an attack on the liberties of the citizens of the United States.

This bill is an attack on the Constitution of the United States.

IT MUST BE REPEALED.

ALL WHO VOTED FOR IT NEED TO BE EXPUNGED FROM CONGRESS.

Posted by: TentativeInfidel | January 13, 2011 8:05 PM | Report abuse

I finally figured out how the Dems went so wrong on the health insurance reform bill.

They were Poisoned By Government Cheese. The process went on too long and they ate tray after tray of it.

Posted by: TominColorado | January 13, 2011 8:11 PM | Report abuse

My prediction is that the repeal bill will pass both House and Senate. Then Obama will have veto it. The Democrats running in 2012 will have covered their behinds but it will cost Obama. It's going to be an interesting two years.

Posted by: mtkennedy11 | January 13, 2011 8:12 PM | Report abuse

I doubt if Harry Reid will even let it come up for a floor vote in the Senate.

Posted by: TominColorado | January 13, 2011 8:26 PM | Report abuse

"I doubt if Harry Reid will even let it come up for a floor vote in the Senate."....

......23 of 33 Senators up in 2012 are democrat and might disagree.

Posted by: georgedixon1 | January 13, 2011 8:46 PM | Report abuse

George: Sure hope you're right about that, but Reid is not up in 2012. I don't know if he has flat out control of the calender or not.

Posted by: TominColorado | January 13, 2011 8:56 PM | Report abuse

He could always use the Vietnam War defense so common when legislators were asked why they supported it.

"I was misinformed.'

Posted by: msimon6808 | January 13, 2011 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Ms Rubin seems unable to distinguish between the concept that the bill was handled badly and the concept that the bill was bad. For example, a conservative might believe that the Bush initiative to privatize Social Security was handled badly (because it didn't succeed) without believing that the initiative itself was bad. Webb may believe the health care bill was handled badly (and therefore caused unnecessary controversy) but not that the provisions of the bill are bad.

Posted by: ecoli1 | January 13, 2011 11:32 PM | Report abuse

Awwright! TentativeInfidel acknowledges my not-clever-by-half-enough allusion to the recent "blood libel" flapdoodle and the (less recent) Eichmann trial. Shoulda said *May* he say he was just, etc. Just here for the ride folks, both positions on the libel business have merit. But make no mistake -- I'll vote for a Red Dog before a D any day -- not gonna happen!(Hey, remember that kids book Red Dog Blue Dog? Loved it!)

Sue me if I gotta warped sense of humor! ;)

Posted by: aardunza | January 14, 2011 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Oops. Make that "if I got a warped sense of humor." Gotta watch the grammar and the back these days. Kay. OvernOut!

Posted by: aardunza | January 14, 2011 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Plus, we are in CST (Ioway!) so it's really not that late, is it? I hope Jen Rubin (or somebody, anybody) liked my Donovan parodies -- done with love if not the greatest wit! And yes, the Prof. A.A.
notstandingwith, lemme say it once more with feeling, jennifer rubin rucks! :)

Posted by: aardunza | January 14, 2011 12:40 AM | Report abuse

Darn it!! Make that "blood libel" BROUHAHA, not flapdoodle, grr, my BAD!:(

Posted by: aardunza | January 14, 2011 1:04 AM | Report abuse

I wrote to Webb as my Senator during the health care debate expressing my oppostion to the bill and got a canned letter back 2 days later saying (to paraphrase) that he was proud to be backing the bill, and he wss so happy I agreed with his opinions on health care.

Plus, oh by the way, I should make a donation for him.

I hope he runs for re-election in 2012 and has to justify his participation in the sneaky and underhanded way the Democrats in Congress got the bill passed.

Posted by: dreese55 | January 14, 2011 3:12 AM | Report abuse

Senator Webb KNEW how bad the bill was because his phones were off the hook with constituents calling to just say NO! but oh no he voted for it anyway. Senator Webb you are too LIBERAL for Virginia, it is time to go home. Senator Warner will be following him in 2014. These two Virginia Senators voted for EVERYTHING Obama asked them too and unfortunately for them Virginia is a Conservative State where people like to think for themselves, decide their own doctors and keep their earned money, bye bye liberals hello Conservatives!

Posted by: Jaded2 | January 14, 2011 5:13 AM | Report abuse

Like all the other nervous Dems, Webb focuses on process rather than the product. He knows---and we know---that, in the end, all we got is a Rube Goldberg scheme where those WITH insurance will pay more (a lot more) to provide insurance to those who wouldn't/coudn't provide it for themselves. And the government will choose our benefit levels for us! And then there's all the extra revenues that will flow to the government. Cut through all the gobble-de-gook and that's what you've got.

Webb and others know this and continue to plays us for fools who would just love the bill if the process had been less contentious. Yeah, right.

Posted by: jeannebee | January 14, 2011 9:12 AM | Report abuse

Great comment jeannebee! Said it all more succinctly than the average beard. And FWIW, full-disclosure-wise, all I ever read of his novels was "Fields of Fire." No lit critique to offer but it was one of the best novels about the Vietnam War that I read -- better than Going After Cacciato, Close Quarters, Dispatches, Meditations in Green, and The 13th Valley IMHO. But all great reads!

Posted by: aardunza | January 14, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Jeannebee you are on target. As a woman (I guess) you can sense a man's nervousness better than we inferior males can. And Webb is definitely showing his inferiority. Get your gal friends together and help us vote him OUT next year.

Posted by: dmckinleyp | January 14, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

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