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Posted at 12:00 PM ET, 01/12/2011

Morocco: a different kind of Muslim country

By Jennifer Rubin

In recent weeks, we have seen a spate of killings of Christians in Muslim countries. There is one country, however, that has managed to avoid the violence: Morocco. I spoke by phone with Morocco's ambassador to the U.S., H.E. Aziz Mekouar. He talked about religious freedom, his own country's battle against violent extremists and the state of relations with the U.S.

Unlike any other Muslim country, Morocco actually guarantees freedom of worship. The ambassador says, "In Morocco freedom of religion is totally guaranteed by the constitution. We think anything, anything, any religious violence is unacceptable." He notes that there are "tens of thousands of Christians and a very important Jewish community in Morocco."

Last year Morocco took some heat when a small group of Christian missionaries were asked to leave the country. Religious freedom is protected, but there is also a prohibition on proselytizing. It was violation of that law that precipitated the Christians' departure. Since that incident there have been no further disputes and there has been no violence directed at either the Christian or Jewish communities.

Meanwhile, Morocco faces violent extremists. Earlier this month, Morocco "arrested 27 people, including a member of Al-Qaeda's branch in North Africa for planning terrorist attacks in the kingdom. The network was led by 'a Moroccan national who is a member of Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and who wanted to create a rear base in the country for terror attacks,' an Interior Ministry statement said late Tuesday, cited by Moroccan news agency MAP." Along with the terror plotters a stash of weapons was recovered including "33 Kalashnikovs, two rocket-propelled grenades (RPG), a mortar and 1998 Kalashnikov ammunition."

It now seems there is ample evidence that the Polisario Front, a Soviet-style liberation group pressing for independence for the Western Sahara is in league with al-Qaeda.

The New York Times reported:

The [terror cell's] leader, the minister said, was a Moroccan member of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, which operates in North Africa and has camps in neighboring Algeria, Mauritania and northern Mali. The goal was to set up a "rear base" for terrorism planning, he said. . . .

Morocco governs Western Sahara, a territory on the Atlantic coast the size of Colorado, but has long faced violent opposition from the Polisario Front, a separatist group based in Algeria. The simmering conflict boiled over in November in the desert city of Laayoune, about 130 miles from Amgala, as knife-wielding gangs attacked unarmed Moroccan security officers, killing 11.

Analysts feared that the violence -- some of the worst in years -- would contribute to the chaos in the territory and provide an opening for Al Qaeda to establish a greater foothold in the region. The arrests of suspected members of a terrorist cell believed to have Qaeda leadership appeared to confirm some of those fears.

The ambassador says the situation is serious. "There is more and more information saying that there are members of the Polisario connected to Al Qaeda." He points to an incident in which two Spanish aid workers were kidnapped and held for nine months by Al Qaeda of Islamic Maghreb.

I ask whether Morocco has raised this issue with the administration. What Morocco has raised, says the ambassador, is the interrelated issues of Polisario terror, drug and human trafficking, and al-Qaeda, activities that threaten the entire region. He says, "The best way [to resolve these issues] is to gain the full co-operation of the region." He says in reference to al-Qaeda and Algeria, which warehouses thousands of Sahrawis and supports the Polisario Front, "Unfortunately, we don't see any movement on the other side." He recalls that in 2007 Morocco offered an autonomy plan that granted "broad autonomy with a lot of devolved powers," but with currency and security handled by the central government. Mekouar recalls that it was welcomed by the U.S. and the U.N. as "serious and credible." He emphasizes that the proposed arrangement is the best solution and is "exactly what is needed" to defuse the conflict with the Polisario front, relieve the suffering of those in squalid camps in Algeria, and defuse the attendant problems (e.g., al-Qaeda influence, drug trafficking) in the region.

What should the U.S. and U.N. do? He says, "The U.N. and all free countries should really make the other side understand that this is the only feasible solution." Indeed, so long as the conflict continues, the influence of al-Qaeda will only increase as will the risk of regional instability.

As for the current administration, the ambassador is effusive. He says that Morocco enjoys a "preferred relationship" with the U.S. and the relationship is "moving in the right direction." Unfortunately a pro-U.S. country with tolerance toward religious minorities is not considered "news" by much of the media.

By Jennifer Rubin  | January 12, 2011; 12:00 PM ET
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Yet another example of what, exactly, Islam has become. It is a plague on us. Those who yearn for power, and those who seek to insure their continuing income, will rely on the very words of the Koran to justify the kind of violence that we will see coming from this western Sahara region in short order.

whenever Islam is on the move, bloodshed is not far behind.

I eagerly await the PC driven, thoughtless responses sagely advising me that Islam isn't the problem. Yeah right. Its the problem and we'll never solve it as long we can convince ourselves that denial is the preferred mental state.

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 12, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"Religious freedom is protected, but there is also a prohibition on proselytizing."

Then it is not religious freedom, for some encourage proselytization. Christianity, for example, as does Islam, which calls it "Da'wa." If preaching to seek converts is prohibited, or if only Muslims are allowed to do it, then there is no religious freedom.

Posted by: irishspy | January 12, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

So much misinformation; where to start?

First, let's take the the "spate" of Muslim attacks on Christians. The vast majority have been in Iraq, where Christianity and Christians are (wrongly) seen as proxies for the West having first sanctioned, then invaded and destroyed the country over the past two decades. Wrong, but understandable, given all the rhetoric about a "clash of civilizations", Islam as a primitive, savage religion, "my God is better than your god", "crusades," war as a necessary element of the "birth pangs" of a "new Middle East" etc.

Then there's Egypt, where local Muslims, in a show of solidarity with their Christian compatriots, have came together to protect them from further attack and demonstrate that the extremists are just that, extremists representing a minority view.

Next we have Nigeria, where analysts report that the violence is linked to the fact that Christian local governments have been denying members of Muslim ethnic groups access to jobs and education.

And now we come to the Moroccans, Ms. Rubin's "good Muslims": "Unlike any other Muslim country, Morocco actually guarantees freedom of worship." Unlike any other Muslim country? Sorry to disabuse you of this notion, but there is certainly freedom of worship in Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon, for starters; no Christian is threatened for practicing their religion. Same goes for Palestine. You might also check out Senegal,Mali, and other West African countries. I could go on, but you get my point....

And then there's this: "Morocco governs Western Sahara..." Well, that must be a surprise to the "separatist" Polisarion Front, which is actually an indigenous independence movement which has been resisting the Moroccans ever since they invaded the territory in 1975. You might also want to alert the UN; I guess they can pull out the peacekeeping mission operating there.

I wonder: might there be an ulterior motive for Morocco to link the (independence-seeking) Polisario Front to a group the world loves to hate? Ya think?

Posted by: enicolas2001 | January 12, 2011 2:30 PM | Report abuse

enicolas2001 is probably on the payroll of some arab front group. Why would anyone else spew that many lies in defense of a faith that is now a plague on the world?

Yes, we are told the problem in Iraq is that the arabs can't seem to express their anger in any way other than murder. so if arabs are angry about something, someone must die. And enicolas2001 must make excuses for the slaughter.

What a ghoulish job that must be.

then we're told that those enlightened Egyptians are protecting the christians. Except of course for the bombing of the coptic church of course. our resident apologist just can't seem to bring that up. Shocking, I know.

If what enicolas2001 says is true, well again, the arab/muslims have all the excuse they need to slaughter innocent people. It doesn't take much, after all to incite muslims to murder. How many died after newsweek published its lie about the Koran?

And enicolas2001 believes that the murderous thugs in the Polisario front are the legitimate government in Western Sahara. Where is the janjaweed when enicolas2001 needs them?

Posted by: skipsailing28 | January 12, 2011 2:51 PM | Report abuse

On the payroll of some Arab front group? Hardly, just someone who, unlike you, tries to stay informed about the world around him.

Yes, indeed, Arab front groups: I presume even a troglodyte like you has heard of the BBC, Huffington Post, the UN?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8564884.stm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/egyptian-muslims-serve-as_n_805951.html

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/missions/minurso/background.shtml

As for my comments about freedom of worship: I have been living and working throughout the Middle East from the late 1990's until now, including all the ME countries I mentioned, have Arab Christian and Muslim friends, and know first-hand whereof I speak. Your comments, on the other hand, are based on...what exactly? Entire minutes spent watching Faux News?

Posted by: enicolas2001 | January 12, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Religious freedom ~ is like the little lure you put at the end of a fishing line. All you have to say is 'we have religious freedom' and it is quickly gobbled up.

How about religious freedom for Muslims ~ in Morocco the penalty is 6 months imprisonment for walking down the street with your girlfriend ~ so most take to sneaking around.

And also there is also 6 months imprisonment for 'choosing' to eat during Ramadan. There is a group of young Moroccan Muslims fighting for the right 'to eat' during the daylight hours of the Ramadan fasting period.

Reports say converts from Islam face state intimidation and are extremely afraid to gather and practise their religion openly.

And no Moroccan is allowed to legally enter a church.

If left, most people in the world are tolerant ~ and it is true of people in the Islamic world ~ but it is the radicals [sometimes clerics and government officials controlled by clerics] who come in and remind people that they should not show basic respect for their neighbors.

In Morocco ~ security is high ~ Moroccan's bags and cars are regularly stopped and checked on the streets and highways.

Posted by: roxn | January 12, 2011 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Morocco is trying desperately hard to convince the US that Polisario has links with al-Qa'ida. But Daniel Benjamin, the US State Department's Coordinator for Counter-terrorism, last month affirmed that there were no links between al-Qa'ida and the Western Sahara. Recent WikiLeaks cables have also reiterated the same and stated that Islamic extremists consider Polisario as too close to the West and not sufficiently pious.

Polisario's main ally is Algeria which has been fighting terrorism for decades and cooperate closely with the US on these matters and shares with it vital information. It won’t allow Polisario to be involved in such any untoward activities.

Morocco’s alleged arrests of terrorism and discovery of arms is an orchestrated scenario and a plot worth of a Hollywood movie. How could such activities happen in area sealed by a 2500km long wall, with 3 million landmines, 140,000 soldiers, radars, dogs, barbed-wire, trenches…etc?
It is also well-known that Morocco is a police state, its intelligence services and police outnumber the Saharawi population in the occupied areas. Nothing could happen without their knowledge.

We won’t be surprise if in the coming weeks and months we hear of a Moroccan organised “terrorist” act for which it would blame the Polisario. The west should not be fooled by Moroccan nasty conspiracies.

People should remember that Morocco used to describe Polisario as a communist organisation during the cold war.

Polisario can't be described as a separatist organisation because no country or international organisation recognises Morocco's illegal occupation of Western Sahara.

The International Court of Justice reaffirmed clearly in 1975 that Morocco had no sovereign title over the territory before the Spanish colonised it. The UN considers Western Sahara as a Non-Self-Governing Territory and the last colonial case in Africa.

The UN recognises the Polisario as the sole and legitimate representative of the Saharawi people and the Saharawi state it declared is recognised by the African Union and 80 countries world-wide.

What the people of Western Sahara want is a chance to exercise their inalienable right to self-determinatio through a UN sponsered referendum. Such a right is recognised by the UN and the interntional community. That is why there is a UN mission called MINURSO in the territory.

To show balance and nuetrality, I suggest to Ms. Jenniver Rubin to interview Mr. Mouloud Said, the Polisario Representative in Washington.

Posted by: Almetadel | January 12, 2011 9:38 PM | Report abuse

@roxn
I have lived in Morocco for the last 5 years. I have yet to see or even hear of anyone arrested for walking down the street with a girlfriend or for eating during Ramadan.
Most restaurants and food shops are closed during the day, but people do eat and drink - just not in public. Not consuming food and drink in public is a way of showing respect and even foreigners like myself do that.
Maybe you are thinking of Saudi Arabia where social rules are much more strict.

Posted by: hooversmom1 | January 13, 2011 2:23 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if Morocco is a different kind of Muslim country, I've only visited one Muslim country: Morocco. But here's what I learned and experienced in Morocco:

I was sitting in a cafe in Marrakech with a man I had met on the ferry from Spain and with whom I had arranged to spend several days in his house as a paying guest. I mentioned that I knew that my host shared his name with previous king and he nervously looked around the room as if the room were bugged and then quietly, "Never mention the king's name again." Morocco may be different in some ways, but it is still an absolute dictatorship just like Saudi Arabia.

Because I speak a tiny bit of French, I learned from a Moroccan woman on a train (she was dressed in western attire and SHE struck up the conversation with me) why Islam was God's true religion and that Christianity was not. I'm not a Christian (I didn't tell her this) and also I was in a guest in her country, so I let her do most of the talking. But I was impressed by how articulately she defended her faith and how proud she was of her country...as the train passed through a generally desolate economic landscape.

It was Christmas time, and so I particularly enjoyed that there were none of the phony trappings of Christmas in Morocco. It was also Ramadan, and I have always been impressed by the discipline needed to observed this celebration. When I got home, I read the "Cairo Trilogy" by Nobel laureate Naguib Mafhouz and was astounded by how his novels took me back to Cairo, a city I had never visited.

But the best part of the trip was to Meknes, a fabulous old city with a great history where everyone treated me very well (my couple of hours in Tanger made me long for the beauty and peace that is Tijuana, Mexico), I could travel by foot and by taxi without any problems, including to outlying villages, and I stayed in the Hotel Majestic, a wonderful $10/night hotel out of the movies.

Posted by: jjedif | January 13, 2011 8:11 AM | Report abuse

A million iraqis were killed and many tortured by white suprimacists, nobody says a word including pope, once some iraqi christians get killed hypocrates start talking. Thousands of palestinians civilians get killed by apartheid israel in an ongoing ethnic cleansing against palestinians by weapons manufactured in white suprimacist countries and nobody says a word.
Shame on you, you psychotic white suprimacists

Posted by: MumboJumboo | January 13, 2011 8:39 AM | Report abuse

nice attempt at learning about a "moderate" Muslim country and all of the niceties that it's ambassador is able to dish out but this piece should not suffice for real journalism. What journalism school teaches you to only go to one source? Why are there no dissenting voices in this piece? Have you ever read a piece on Russia in a major publication where the only person cited is the Russian Ambassador to the U.S.?

I read the Post everyday and have utmost respect for it, but when I see pieces like this which propogate lies--such as the made up link between Al Qaeda and the POLISARIO--while claiming there is "ample evidence" behind such claims, I begin to wonder if your reporters are not being paid off by the Moroccan government.

And this is not the first time this has happened. Anne Applebaum was flown to Morocco last year to write a piece that was just as one-sided. This is not journalism, this is propaganda and it is shameful

Posted by: reality13 | January 13, 2011 9:50 AM | Report abuse

It's odd that so many people believe that religious freedom includes the freedom to shove Christianity down my throat at every instance, and even use my tax money to help with the effort. Still, I wouldn't make such annoying behavior illegal, but I can certainly see where some countries would. Of course, some countries make chewing gum illegal, something else that annoys me.

Posted by: dparks2 | January 13, 2011 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Reasons for the instability: Zionists control puppet white suprimacists who control traitor arab dictators.

Pope should speak about the million innocent iraqis that were killed by white suprimacists Bush and Bliar?
Pope should speak about the torture in abu ghareb?
Pope should speak about the ongoing ethnic cleansing of palestinians on the hands of apartheid israel regime?
Pope should speak about subra and shatila, deir yassin, qana massacres ?

Posted by: MumboJumboo | January 13, 2011 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"I mentioned that I knew that my host shared his name with previous king and he nervously looked around the room as if the room were bugged and then quietly, "Never mention the king's name again." Morocco may be different in some ways, but it is still an absolute dictatorship just like Saudi Arabia."

How is this evidence that Morocco is a dictatorship? Maybe it's considered rude. Or maybe your host had a personal problem with the previous king. Pretty sweeping statement to make on just this one, personal, anecdote.

Posted by: NYC123 | January 13, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"Yet another example of what, exactly, Islam has become. It is a plague on us"

like Christians invading Iraq and Afghanistan.

Posted by: newagent99 | January 13, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

The Western/Spanish Sahara challenge would be easily solved if Morocco simply allowed a UN sponsored referedum on independence or merger with Morocco. Don't like the UN? Well, let Morocco invite a bevy of African nations to monitor the elections.

Posted by: johnklenert | January 13, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Having spent two years in the Peace Corps in Morocco, I like to refer to it as the California of the Islamic world. It is still Islamic, however, so keep that in mind when tempted to judge it according to Western standards. If all or even most Islamic countries were like Morocco the world would be a much better place and we could then talk about moving forward. Remember, however, that there is a tenuous and even shifting line between basic human rights and cultural imperialism.

Posted by: lmmbham | January 13, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Having spent two years in the Peace Corps in Morocco, I like to refer to it as the California of the Islamic world. It is still Islamic, however, so keep that in mind when tempted to judge it according to Western standards. If all or even most Islamic countries were like Morocco the world would be a much better place and we could then talk about moving forward. Remember, however, that there is a tenuous and even shifting line between basic human rights and cultural imperialism.

Posted by: lmmbham | January 13, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

this really isn't journalism. you called the ambassador, took some notes, and are publishing this as a column? seriously, is this the best the Post can do?

Posted by: DCguy7 | January 13, 2011 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The artificial conflict in North Africa (between Morocco and Algeria) has never been because of Western/Morocco Sahara, but for other reasons related to Algeria’s desire to expand and dominate the north part of Africa by:
1st Creating a fake State through which it could reach for another passage to the Atlantic Ocean other than the one on the Mediterranean sea and 2nd Isolating Morocco from the rest of its allied African countries.
Algeria has never been interested in the Saharawi people or whoever; it is exploiting their suffering to only gain the sympathy of the international community; it is investing lots of money to polish the image of its being one of the great allies of the former Soviet Union by trying to get closer to the United States of America and this by tempting the decision-makers there in order to take Morocco's place, the ally that does not change its position according to the circumstances.

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 13, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@johnklener, sorry to say that you know almost nothing about the issue there, in the Moroccan Sahara; if you really want to solve the problem, try to ask Algeria to leave them Saharans choose between two unique options: to get back to the Sahara, under Morocco's authorities, or remain in Tindouf- in Algeria- under Cuban-like regime! As for your alleged suggestion-referendum- it has proved to be impossible, simply because Saharans are mainly nomads they keep moving from area to other seeking for water and food, so keep walking behind them!

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 13, 2011 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Some comments on Morocco are more telling; they reveal how ignorant posters are, they must confuse Morocco with Algeria, Morocco is the most open and modern Country in the region; though it doesn't belong to OPEC, Moroccans are enjoying some basic human rights (freedom of speech, the right to demonstrate to name a few) many other things are lacking but it's better than in many other Arab States such as Qatar where you can't find a single NGO to ask for the right to demonstrate as an opposition party.

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 13, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: addjian16 | January 13, 2011 8:15 PM | Report abuse

@ Almetadel,
I see that your knowledge horizon is very limited alas; I think you should, to enlarge it a bit, have a look at this:
http://www.lepost.fr/article/2010/12/11/2336433_le-senateur-de-floride-l-honnorable-lincoln-diaz-balart-mise-au-point-et-rappel-sur-le-sahara-occidental-au-congres-americain.html
You might think he’s pro-Morocco, but what about your reference?
Would not he be beholden to Algeria, just like you?

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 14, 2011 8:38 PM | Report abuse

I would appreciate Ms. Rubin if you would be a little more careful to investigate your facts before making comments like, "Last year Morocco took some heat when a small group of Christian missionaries were asked to leave the country. Religious freedom is protected, but there is also a prohibition on proselytizing. It was violation of that law that precipitated the Christians' departure."

I was one of this "small" group of nearly 150 legal residents who were not just asked to leave but thrown out of the country, some by force. I'm a offended that you would call me a missionary and agree with the Moroccan government that i violated their laws when I was never given the opportunity to defend myself, and the accusations made against me, in a court of law. If Mr. Mekouar showed you evidence that I or any of those thrown out of the country violated Morocco's proselytism laws I would love to see it. As far as i know no evidence has ever been shown to any of us.

As a legal law abiding resident for more than a decade in Morocco I have a hard time seeing how the government can claim they have religious freedom when they expel legally resident Christian businessmen, teachers, NGO workers and others with no proof that any of them broke the law.

In addition maybe you should do a report on Moroccan citizens who have decided to follow other faiths than Islam or Judaism and see how much freedom they have to practice their faiths. You will find quite a different picture than Mr Mekouar is trying to paint for you.

Posted by: saidfup | January 15, 2011 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Ms. Rubin, you can never please everyone, so if a minority of guys finds it hard to appreciate your writings, be sure there are more than tens of millions of people who are completely satisfied with your comments. Go ahead!

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 15, 2011 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Morocco is one of the rare, if not the sole, Muslim countries where other monotheistic faiths are respected. Isn't that too much?
PS: If I were you, I wouldn't believe in proselytized muslims as they behave so for economic reasons.

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 15, 2011 7:35 PM | Report abuse

I lived in Morocco for a long time and there really is a law that a girl and guy who are unrelated or not married cannot be together in public. This law is rarely applied but on two occasions in the more than 10 years I lived there I had single male friends who were in public with a girl friend and were arrested and spent a night in prison. In both cases the police applied the law for a week or two and then things went back to "normal".

samuel-lary you are so typical. It's unthinkable for you as a muslim to think someone who was born muslim may actually choose to follow another religion by their own convictions and not just for economic reasons. FYI there are many muslims becoming christians around the world and some of them suffering persecution and even death for leaving islam and without any financial incentive. Please allow them the freedom to believe as they wish without trying to degrade them. Their courage is to be honored.

In Morocco and most every other muslim nation these Christians who willful choose to leave islam have no rights or freedoms to worship and practice their faith like the muslims they live among. To say other monotheistic faiths are respected is just plain wrong. Show me one place in Morocco where Moroccan Christians have freedom to worship.

Posted by: saidfup | January 15, 2011 10:47 PM | Report abuse

saidfup, you must have lived, sorry to say so, anywhere except in Morocco you must have lived, sorry to say, anywhere, except in Morocco or perhaps you might have spent a few days in some remote villages where people are still subject to much more conservative traditions.
As for proselytizing born-Muslim guys, I think you will be entirely wrong when you think she/he will be Christianized due to a deep conviction, unless you seek your candidates from orphan children the way you did in Haiti; this is a typical scene of rape and kidnapping. You'd better first try to convince "Christian" atheists to get back to their ancestors' religion!
http://www.jesuswalk.com/lessons/15_1-10.htm

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 16, 2011 1:10 PM | Report abuse

samuel-lary have YOU ever lived in Morocco?

If you are ever there again please show me a place where Moroccan Christians are as free to worship as their Muslim neighbors and i will yield to your and the ambassadors comments that Morocco respects other monotheistic religions. I'll be waiting!

Posted by: saidfup | January 17, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

What do you mean by Moroccan? I think, if I’m not mistaken, you mean that who was born Muslim and has later been Christianized, wasn't it? Can you tell if such or such believer is French or American when you get into a Church? Personally I can’t, simply because I shouldn’t distinguish between prayers asking about their nationalities; it’s one of the Human Rights!
CHAPTER I
FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS
3. Every person is the possessor of the fundamental freedoms, including freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom of opinion, freedom of expression, freedom of peaceful assembly and freedom of association.
5. Every person has a right to respect for his private life.

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 17, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a very simple question. Is there a place in the country of Morocco where a person who is a Moroccan citizen can freely and openly worship, study the Bible, and pray as a Christian and is free to share his Christian faith with others, like the Moroccan Muslim citizens around him, without fear of legal action or harassment from the authorities. The answer is simply "NO".

I wish the Moroccan government respected the human rights you mentioned but they seem not to since they are the ones looking at people's nationalities and harassing Moroccan Christians.

Posted by: saidfup | January 18, 2011 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I told you, didn't I? you shouldn't believe in guys, who were born Moslem, when they pretend to quickly opt for another religion, the case here Christian!
When they do so, they do it for Economic Reasons which is not true faith; they will always feel guilty of committing a sin and that's why they try hard to avoid being seen in churches though no one can tell if they were Moroccans or not, simply, father because there are too many communities leaving in Morocco; there people whose complexion happens to look like that of some Moroccans: you might meet with Sub-Saharans; Linanese guys, Asiatics and so on, so quit thinking that all Christians are white and blue-eyed creatures. Last thing, Moroccans may look at you, but never judge you; [Ils ont d'autres chats à fouetter!]

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 18, 2011 10:08 AM | Report abuse

I can see that you are completely missing my point. No problem. Where you got the idea I believe all Christians are white and blue-eyed is beyond me! If you keep telling yourself the lie that there are no sincere Moroccan Christians you'll always believe it. I guess you'll just have to see someday when God sorts it all out. Greet Morocco for the next time you are there. Maybe some day they will let me back in. :) thela f rasek

Posted by: saidfup | January 19, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Father saidfup, just one question; how do you get to know a believer is Moroccan or not? I'm an atheist ex-Christian Lebanese, so when I used to get into churches in Morocco, I could never tell if people there were from Morocco, Senegal, Philipean or even from Spain; unless you played the role of a policeman; I hope you see what I meant! I told you last time, if you were really sincere, you should first try to convince atheists who, like me, are many, of the message that your religion carries to finally recover us/them (atheists). Do not try to impress me with your poor Arabic!

Posted by: samuel-lary | January 19, 2011 2:42 PM | Report abuse

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