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Posted at 8:35 AM ET, 02/ 9/2011

Obama sows confusion on Egypt

By Jennifer Rubin

As confused as Americans are about the policy and intentions of the Obama administration regarding Egypt, so are Israelis and Europeans. Obama started out with inertia. Then he vaguely suggested that change was needed. Then the administration shouted, "Now!" Hosni Mubarak said he'd be staying awhile. And now the administration appears to have agreed on a slow-motion transition. The New York Times reports:

With a new wave of demonstrations in Tahrir Square on Tuesday -- by some measures the largest anti-government protests in the two-week uprising -- Egyptians loudly rejected their government's approach to political change and renewed their demands for the immediate resignation of President Hosni Mubarak.

In a telephone call, Vice President Joseph R. Biden pressed his Egyptian counterpart, Omar Suleiman, to lift the 30-year emergency law that the government has used to suppress and imprison opposition leaders, to stop locking and beating up protesters and journalists and to invite demonstrators to help develop a specific timetable for opening up the political process. He also asked Mr. Suleiman to open talks on Egypt's political future to a wider range of opposition members.

While Obama has been bouncing around like a ping-pong ball in a wind tunnel, Mubarak seems to have outfoxed the Americans. ("The government -- by trying to divide the opposition, offering limited concessions and remaining patient -- appears to believe it can weather the biggest challenge to its rule," the Times said.)

The administration's behavior throughout has been disturbing to our allies, including the Israelis. Here at the Herzliya conference, the attendees and panelists wonder aloud: "What is Obama doing?" And in saying this, they refer not only to the administration's incoherence but also to the impression that Americans are without influence and utterly unreliable. Obama can't stick by either side for more than a day.

Egypt's crisis is certainly of immense importance. But one could argue that just as enduring may be the additional damage done to the credibility and reliability of this administration. Our allies should be forewarned that they best look after their own interests.

By Jennifer Rubin  | February 9, 2011; 8:35 AM ET
Categories:  foreign policy  
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Unfortunately, unrest in Egypt is just the tip of the iceberg. Most Middle East nations face the same demographic issues as Egypt; a massive number of young people who simply cannot find jobs and are extremely unhappy with their inability to start families or purchase homes. Here is a look at just how desperate the situation is for young and highly educated Egyptians:

http://viableopposition.blogspot.com/2011/02/egypt-unemployed-population-cohort.html

Posted by: Baywoodfarm | February 9, 2011 9:04 AM | Report abuse


This twitter is hilarious - the tweets like these are not allowed on the blogs.

The terms of service would never allow it. This site is forbidden.


http://twitter.com/#!/MayorRahmE


Rahm thinks that he is going to coast in - Too many people hate him for that

At this point, Rahm's fiscal proposals fall far short.

So, Rahm is running now - he is supposed to have his proposals ready - RAHM'S BUDGET FALLS SHORT AND FAILS TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. Any person voting for Rahm is making a mistake.

Cillizza might say the address of this page is @MayorRahmE on twitter, but I don't know about that.

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Posted by: RainForestRising | February 9, 2011 9:10 AM | Report abuse

The real problem is the shifting sand under the situation and the changing direction of the political winds around it.

It's impossible to see the best course of action for the optimal outcome without a magic, crystal ball.

Obamacrats are clueless and stumbling. It's all guesswork and running trial and error. The chances of a good outcome for Obama is slim.

It comes from a total lack of personal conviction on the part of Obama. An excellent leader would take a moral stance and stick to it and be able to convince the people it is the right thing to do.

Kinda like FDR did, way back when and Reagan did not so long ago.

Obama is more like Carter and Clinton than those other guys. It's becoming more obvious by the day.

Posted by: battleground51 | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Obama is showing his rank amateurism again. He has no real experience in foreign affairs, other than coddling to the radical regimes while he dis's the tradtional allies. SO unfortunately he will fail in foreign affairs, just like he has in economic affairs. Maybe if the egyptians were illegal, or gay or black, he may be more successful since his bleeding heart is evident there

Posted by: zzapperz | February 9, 2011 10:11 AM | Report abuse

There is no group that is more silent than the 40 million Egyptians that earn less than two dollars a day, their tongues have been cut out and they have been reduced to a vegetative state. The greatest fear for the Egyptian ruling class is the restoration of freedom of speech for the once tongueless. They know that their voices will ring like thunder and awaken the dead throughout the Middle East.

Posted by: morristhewise | February 9, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Obama should have made bland public statements in favor of democracy, peaceful protest, non-intervention by outsiders, etc. Diplomacy should have occurred behind the scenes with a goal of promoting peaceful, gradual democratization but, most of all, of thwarting the Muslim Brotherhood.

Instead our narcissistic President has preened for his base by making public demands on Mubarak ("Now!") and then waffled when our nervous allies pointed out the manifest risk of an Islamist takeover. Bill Daley or some other adult has no doubt reminded Barry of what the Iranian crisis did to Jimmy Carter's re-election bid.

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama, like most Westerners, seems to believe that freedom from oppression, transparent and representative democracy, and economic progress are noble goals.
Obama, like most Westerners, unfortunately also lacks even the most basic understanding of the Middle East Arab satraps.
Thus Obama prescribes solutions only applicable to already developed nations and which, if applied throughout the Middle East to those same satraps, would spell even greater oppression, even less democracy, and even less economic progress.
Obama's solutions would also unleash even more Jihadist Islamism to wreak even harsher worldwide destruction.
Obama does not seem able or willing to learn from his myriad mistakes, and his mismanagement of the Egyptian crisis could be the worst.

Posted by: Beniyyar | February 9, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Our U.S. leaders have never looked so “feeble” have never looked so “corrupt” have never looked so “bought”. We can thank the Egyptian people for bringing this to the average American’s attention.

When Secretary of Sate Hillary Clinton and other leaders call a Dictator a “close family friend” or an “ally” or a “friend” something is very wrong. When we openly support a Dictator with the instruments of subjugation something is very wrong.

Posted by: Alethean | February 9, 2011 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama talks too much...thinks he needs to comment or react to everything. This was evident during his Presidential campaign and has been over the past two years...

He should employ the "say nothing" strategy more as it will help him avoid vacilliating so much, give him more time to think before talking, and avoid confusing everyone.

Posted by: JJH1 | February 9, 2011 1:41 PM | Report abuse

What is Obama doing? Maybe he's allowing that the U.S. shouldn't be "of influence" with regard to the people of another country's right to self-determination. We've been of too much influence, which is why they had Mubarak for 30 years!

Ms. Rubin, Israel can no longer depend on U.S. support of dictators to ensure its own unjust existence at the expense of the livelihoods of people who have to live under those dictators. Everywhere the U.S. has been "of influence" in the Middle East, they've made a mess and bred untold resentments and opposite extremes.

Posted by: yihe94703 | February 9, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's Obama's stance:

February 1, 2001, 6:44 P.M. EST

THE PRESIDENT: Good evening, everybody. Over the past few days, the American people have watched the situation unfolding in Egypt. We’ve seen enormous demonstrations by the Egyptian people. We’ve borne witness to the beginning of a new chapter in the history of a great country, and a long-time partner of the United States.

And my administration has been in close contact with our Egyptian counterparts and a broad range of the Egyptian people, as well as others across the region and across the globe. And throughout this period, we’ve stood for a set of core principles.

First, we oppose violence. And I want to commend the Egyptian military for the professionalism and patriotism that it has shown thus far in allowing peaceful protests while protecting the Egyptian people. We’ve seen tanks covered with banners, and soldiers and protesters embracing in the streets. And going forward, I urge the military to continue its efforts to help ensure that this time of change is peaceful.

Second, we stand for universal values, including the rights of the Egyptian people to freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, and the freedom to access information. Once more, we’ve seen the incredible potential for technology to empower citizens and the dignity of those who stand up for a better future. And going forward, the United States will continue to stand up for democracy and the universal rights that all human beings deserve, in Egypt and around the world.

Third, we have spoken out on behalf of the need for change. After his speech tonight, I spoke directly to President Mubarak. He recognizes that the status quo is not sustainable and that a change must take place. Indeed, all of us who are privileged to serve in positions of political power do so at the will of our people. Through thousands of years, Egypt has known many moments of transformation. The voices of the Egyptian people tell us that this is one of those moments; this is one of those times.

Now, it is not the role of any other country to determine Egypt’s leaders. Only the Egyptian people can do that. What is clear -- and what I indicated tonight to President Mubarak -- is my belief that an orderly transition must be meaningful, it must be peaceful, and it must begin now.

Furthermore, the process must include a broad spectrum of Egyptian voices and opposition parties. It should lead to elections that are free and fair. And it should result in a government that’s not only grounded in democratic principles, but is also responsive to the aspirations of the Egyptian people.

Throughout this process, the United States will continue to extend the hand of partnership and friendship to Egypt. And we stand ready to provide any assistance that is necessary to help the Egyptian people as they manage the aftermath of these protests.

(continued)

Posted by: yihe94703 | February 9, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

for all of you people's (yeah I said it and by you people you all know who you are) pettiness and ms rubin's blatant partisanship I say shame on you. let's be honest, there is nothing the POTUS could have done or said to satisfy you. I didn't even vote for him and yet what i see happening is sickening. feeble... corrupt... REALLY? and let me guess you would rather we should go in there and put who we want in place? who is the we that should go? certainly not you or your kids... it would be me and someone else's child. most likely some illegal immigrants kid who you want to throw in jail or gay Soldier who stepped up UNLIKE MOST OF YOU COWARDS to serve this nation. so what should he do? send in special forces... the cia... Chuck Norris? the real world is not some episode of 24... it doesnt work like that! the egyptians like the tunisians like the iranians will choose their government good bad or indifferent to american interests. that's where we failed with Iraq... the iraqis should have been the ones doing thunder runs through baghdad... anyone with half a brain knows that. but your politics will not allow for logic or nuance... you folks sicken me

Posted by: ro_pu | February 9, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

(Obama's remarks continued from previous post)

Over the last few days, the passion and the dignity that has been demonstrated by the people of Egypt has been an inspiration to people around the world, including here in the United States, and to all those who believe in the inevitability of human freedom.

To the people of Egypt, particularly the young people of Egypt, I want to be clear: We hear your voices. I have an unyielding belief that you will determine your own destiny and seize the promise of a better future for your children and your grandchildren. And I say that as someone who is committed to a partnership between the United States and Egypt.

There will be difficult days ahead. Many questions about Egypt’s future remain unanswered. But I am confident that the people of Egypt will find those answers. That truth can be seen in the sense of community in the streets. It can be seen in the mothers and fathers embracing soldiers. And it can be seen in the Egyptians who linked arms to protect the national museum -- a new generation protecting the treasures of antiquity; a human chain connecting a great and ancient civilization to the promise of a new day.

Thank you very much.

Posted by: yihe94703 | February 9, 2011 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Did you get that expression by President Obama, Ms. Rubin: "inevitability of human freedom"?

Obama was elected on a platform of change.
Therefore, alliances that the U.S. formed with oppressive and unjust regimes prior to Obama coming to office have every right to question now whether they can continue to enjoy the status quo. I see change happening! Out with the old, in with the new!

Posted by: yihe94703 | February 9, 2011 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Re "credibility and reliability."

To whom, may I ask? To old corrupt regimes who want to make sure they can stay in power?
Then I'll be really glad if they do not find Obama reliable like all the past administrations who let the CIA impose dictators on other people.

Posted by: yihe94703 | February 9, 2011 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It is curious to read liberals on the necessity of supporting democratic groups in the Middle East. Only one problem- there aren't any. Liberals are committed to supporting regimes that talk of equality and social justice- as they did and do with Cuba and with sandinista Nicaragua. For years many even supported the now defunct Soviet Union. the teachings of Karl Marx have disappeared on the ash heap of history- except in the minds of liberals. Just whisper the words "equality and social justice" into their ears and they'll follow any tyrant anywhere.

Posted by: mhr614 | February 9, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Re "credibility and reliability."

To whom, may I ask? To old corrupt regimes who want to make sure they can stay in power?
Then I'll be really glad if they do not find Obama reliable like all the past administrations who let the CIA impose dictators on other people.

Posted by: yihe94703
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This is International Relations 101, but allies must be able to depend on us -- that's "reliability". Friends and especially enemies must understand that our words aren't just empty posturing -- that's "credibility".

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

It is curious to read liberals on the necessity of supporting democratic groups in the Middle East. Only one problem- there aren't any. Liberals are committed to supporting regimes that talk of equality and social justice- as they did and do with Cuba and with sandinista Nicaragua. For years many even supported the now defunct Soviet Union. the teachings of Karl Marx have disappeared on the ash heap of history- except in the minds of liberals. Just whisper the words "equality and social justice" into their ears and they'll follow any tyrant anywhere.

Posted by: mhr614 | February 9, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

_BHO in a Nutshell_

First you say you will, and then you won't
Then you say you do, and then you don't
You're undecided now, so what are you going to do?

or, Never mind!

(Regarding the chief justice -- my theory is the Guy Lombardo did it -- sends 'em away every time! Auld Lang Syne...)

Posted by: aardunza | February 9, 2011 2:18 PM | Report abuse

_BHO in a Nutshell_

First you say you will, and then you won't
Then you say you do, and then you don't
You're undecided now, so what are you going to do?

or, Never mind!

(Regarding the chief justice -- my theory is the Guy Lombardo did it -- sends 'em away every time! Auld Lang Syne...)

Posted by: aardunza | February 9, 2011 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cool is more interested in his golf games, celebrity dinners, and vacations to far away places. He is in the mold of John Kerry, the original weathervane of politics. Just watch which way the wind blows and then take a stance. Mr. Obfuscation has replaced Mr. Hope and Change.

Posted by: nmg3rln | February 9, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

marvellous blog as always

Posted by: razor2 | February 9, 2011 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Since when have any of our allies not looked after their own best interests? ... Duh.

Posted by: deepthroat21 | February 9, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

After all that Obama has done for America in two years, of course the other countries are concerned!
I truly think Obama is afraid we might revolt, the big dufus, or that siding with the Egyptian people will encourage more revolts, which are never good for the status quo, or that he might bumble and set up a new Karzai.
It is very disconcerting that he has lately spoken against the Egyptian people. I truly do not understand why Obama and the EU would not be on the side of the Egyptian people.
The Muslim Brotherhood is less of a threat than the media makes them out to be; possibly for propaganda reasons. Naturally Israel is opposed but when are they ever for humanity?
Mubarak must go!Or there will be blood.

Posted by: hebe1 | February 9, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Rubin proves yet again why we should all be happy that the neo-cons are not in power. They would go blundering through Egypt and the middle east just like George W Bush did, leaving hatred, confusion, and the dead bodies of service men and women and innocent civilians. There is a reason why we are hated over there: neo-conservative foreign policy.

Posted by: gposner | February 9, 2011 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Here's the Math:

Obama = Jimmy Carter x 2

Obama + Carter = $5 gallon gas

$5 gallon gas = President Palin

Posted by: jfv123 | February 9, 2011 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Jennifer,

Why not add some caliphate talk in there and let everyone know you are a full-blown kook willing to put self and politics before God and Country?

Posted by: colonelpanic | February 9, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"An excellent leader would take a moral stance and stick to it and be able to convince the people it is the right thing to do.
...and Reagan did not so long ago."
Posted by: battleground51 | February 9, 2011 9:11 AM
_________________________________________

Are you referring to Reagan's upright moral work by supporting the Contras in Nicaragua? Yeah, that was some dynamite foriegn policy from which I hope Obama learns a lot. [rolls eyes]

Posted by: Patzer111 | February 9, 2011 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"Obama sows confusion on Egypt
By Jennifer Rubin

As confused as Americans are about the policy and intentions of the Obama administration regarding Egypt, so are Israelis and Europeans...."
********************

No disrespect intended to Ms. Rubin, but WaPo editors/publisher, you don't currently have a dimmer, low-wattage bulb than this one. She is worthy of the likes of Townhall, not the WaPo. There HAVE to be better "con" voices you could hire to fill this slot. Week in and week out, her ledes insult the intelligence of every reader, regardless of political persuasion.

Please replace her. I promise, she'll find employment in some right wing institute; but we don't need this low performance here.

Thank you.

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Re "credibility and reliability."

To whom, may I ask? To old corrupt regimes who want to make sure they can stay in power?
Then I'll be really glad if they do not find Obama reliable like all the past administrations who let the CIA impose dictators on other people.

Posted by: yihe94703
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Yeah, because when the Muslim Brotherhood's charter calls for jihad to establish a Caliphate and the rule of God, liberals know they're only kidding.

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Nothing new here , how can you expect competent behaviour from the most incompetent president in US history ?

Impeach Obama now , let him leave for Saudi Arabia where he belongs with Mubarak , Ben Ali is waiting with some warm tea

Posted by: michel1835 | February 9, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Corrected post
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Jennifer,

Why not add some caliphate talk in there and let everyone know you are a full-blown kook willing to put self and politics before God and Country?

Posted by: colonelpanic
---------------------------------
Yeah, because when the Muslim Brotherhood's charter calls for jihad to establish a Caliphate and the rule of God, liberals know they're only kidding

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA is NOT Confused. He is merely talking out of both sides of his mouth as politicians do.

The Us has a all but set up the Sixth Fleet in Suez. This is in newspapers throughout the Middle East and Asia, but not, of course, in ChristoIslamic WaPo.

Oil. BP, Exxon Mobile, Conoco Phillips.

Get the money, honey. Stars and stripes. God save the queen.

Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | February 9, 2011 3:42 PM | Report abuse

History always repeats itself. Carter had Iran and Obama will have Egypt.

Posted by: FLvet | February 9, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

not hard to outfox hilarity and obama.

not really an even match.

Posted by: docwhocuts | February 9, 2011 3:58 PM | Report abuse

If the U.S.learns anything in this Egypt crisis, one hopes it will be the futility of designing our foreign policy to meet the desires of the rogue Israeli state. For 30 years, we propped up an odious dictator in order to prop up, in turn, Israel and its hideous regime of apartheid.

Let the Israelis take care of themselves; stop sending them any money; force them to sue for peace with their neighbors.

Posted by: Casey1 | February 9, 2011 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't help but notice that Ms. Rubin's commentary is so full of potshots at Pres. Obama that there is no room for any concrete advice as to what precisely the U.S. should say/do in this situation. I'd love to read a future posting that enlightens us on that score, but am not holding my breath!

At a minimum, perhaps Ms. Rubin might also acknowledge, at least in passing, that support for Mubarak has been a thoroughly bipartisan policy for 30 years. Her unseemly rush to blame Pres. Obama and Democrats for the current chaos in Egypt just shows that--as another poster rightly said earlier today--there is literally nothing the current administration could do or say that would meet with her approval.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | February 9, 2011 4:01 PM | Report abuse

obozo is not confused. this dork is a shucing and jiving incopetent politician,who understands nothing ,or does not want to regarding the muslim threat to western civilization

Posted by: pofinpa | February 9, 2011 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Obama should pretend that he has solid evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood is planning a takeover (False), warn Mubarak that he's tired of pussy-footing around and that Mubarak has 24 hours to resign and then invade Egypt in order to save it from a radical Muslim takeover and give Egyptians their "Freedom".

That would be the Republican thing to do (he could borrow the money for the invasion) and it would make a mess of US foreign policy for decades.

Posted by: thebobbob | February 9, 2011 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Beniyyar | February 9, 2011 12:51 PM

Obama does not seem able or willing to learn from his myriad mistakes, and his mismanagement of the Egyptian crisis could be the worst.

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Obama's myriad of mistakes stem from the fact he's continuing Bush's.

Speaking of Bush, was he a Middle East expert in your opinion Beni?

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 9, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 3:36 PM

Yeah, because when the Muslim Brotherhood's charter calls for jihad to establish a Caliphate and the rule of God, liberals know they're only kidding

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What's the matter eonii? Are you upset tha theymight get rid of the Western Caliphate?

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 9, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

wow

Ugly Republicans trying to take down the American President.

traitors.

Posted by: vigor | February 9, 2011 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the president invite the Muslim Brotherhood to his speech in Cairo in 2009?
You know, Muslim Brotherhood Jihadists that call for Caliphate and then deCapitate.

Posted by: truth34 | February 9, 2011 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama answers the question of Egypt as yes, no, maybe but never the true answer, don't know. This likely is not making some other countries too happy.

As for believing in something that produces a blank. Still nobody has any idea of how this is going to turn out. Wonder what the odds are in Las Vegas?

Posted by: artg | February 9, 2011 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama does sow confusion. Here is a clip from the national news today: Medical device executives say regulation by the Food and Drug Administration has hurt the industry domestically."

Hurt as in not hiring anyone. Doesn't Obama know how much he and the Dem job killing machine are hurting businesses?

Medical device executives know how Obama is killing jobs.

Posted by: cpameetingbook | February 9, 2011 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Obama reveals his confusion because for him it is self first, country last. We, the US, must be the laughing stock of the world for electing such a selfish incompetent president.

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | February 9, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

With all due respect Jennifer Rubin, please shut up!You have no idea what you are talking about. (I am beginning to develop a zero tolerance for such irrational and partisan arguments.)President Obama and Hillary Clinton are handling this fluid situation as best as it can be handled.An overwhelming majority of Americans approve of what he is doing. To say President Obama has been "outfoxed" and that he is bouncing around like a ping pong ball is a pretty silly assessment of what they are doing. Making periodic adjustments as the situation changes not only makes sense but it is the best way to handle this given situation.

Posted by: Obamarama1 | February 9, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Only Obama could make George Bush look good.
The WH (Waffle House) response to Egypt exceeds their allowing the environmental destruction of our Gulf coast by not siphoning and building berms with a major, high-leadership effort.
On Egypt, Obama has declared himself to favor everything and everyone -- at one time or another. Talk, talk, talk. That's all Obama has shown he can do. Why did we vote for this guy?

Posted by: llrllr | February 9, 2011 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Regarding foreign affairs Rubin doesn't know her butt from a hole in the ground. Her criticisms of President Obama are predictable and predictably irrelevant.

Her posts are not only completely uniformed partisan posturing, they are poorly written screeds that seek credibility by name-dropping.

Reporting live from the Herzliya Conference.

The what? Where? Yawn.

What is Bibi doing to control the events unfolding in Egypt?

Posted by: russellglee | February 9, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

"Why did we vote for this guy?"

posted by llrllr


from today's reading in The Day of the Scorpion, (pg178, The Raj Quartet), seemed appropriate:

"Captain Bates'll have my guts for garters."
"Is he your officer?"
"That's right, sir. But no sweat. We live
and learn. And I'll know the nabob next time, won't I?"

Posted by: aardunza | February 9, 2011 5:22 PM | Report abuse

No disrespect intended to Ms. Rubin, but WaPo editors/publisher, you don't currently have a dimmer, low-wattage bulb than this one. She is worthy of the likes of Townhall, not the WaPo. There HAVE to be better "con" voices you could hire to fill this slot. Week in and week out, her ledes insult the intelligence of every reader, regardless of political persuasion.

Please replace her. I promise, she'll find employment in some right wing institute; but we don't need this low performance here.

Thank you.

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse
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While I sharply disagree with Rubin, I find this posting by abqleve to be truly alarming.

For decades, self-righteous liberals have dominated academia and frightened everyone who is not PC away from opening their mouths.

I disagree with Rubin, but I disagree with censorship far more.

Posted by: rjpal | February 9, 2011 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | February 9, 2011 4:52 PM

"We, the US, must be the laughing stock of the world for electing such a selfish incompetent president."

That was already the case in 2004, when a video went viral of people holding up signs saying sorry (for re electing Bush).

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 9, 2011 5:39 PM | Report abuse

In the event, Ms. Rubin, that you did not see it yourself, here is an answer to your stomach and headaches with Obama, as quoted from the NYT, today:

Allies Press U.S. to Go Slow on Egypt
By MARK LANDLER and HELENE COOPER
Published: February 8, 2011...

"Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates have each repeatedly pressed the United States not to cut loose Egypt’s president, Hosni Mubarak, too hastily, or to throw its weight behind the democracy movement in a way that could further destabilize the region, diplomats say. One Middle Eastern envoy said that on a single day, he spent 12 hours on the phone with American officials."

Posted by: paultaylor1 | February 9, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, gee whiz....the president is still getting his "on the job training"....another few years and no telling how valuable his decisions will be for this nation....(if we can wait that long!)

Posted by: SeniorVet | February 9, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

If George Will is calling you out, re: blaming Obama for anything and everything, then you know the gig is up. Mr. Will, in today's op-ed, takes aim at Jennifer Rubin et al:

"It also would be amazing, because there is a cottage industry of Barack Obama critics who, not content with monitoring his myriad mistakes in domestic policies, insist that there must be a seamless connection of those with his foreign policy. Strangely, these critics, who correctly doubt the propriety and capacity of the U.S. government controlling our complex society, simultaneously fault the government for not having vast competence to shape the destinies of other societies. Such critics persist because, as Upton Sinclair wrote in 1935, 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.'"

eonii, George Will doesn't appreciate your Governance 101 incompetence.

HTTR

Posted by: tony11 | February 9, 2011 5:57 PM | Report abuse

If George Will is calling you out, re: blaming Obama for anything and everything, then you know the gig is up. Mr. Will, in today's op-ed, takes aim at Jennifer Rubin et al:

"It also would be amazing, because there is a cottage industry of Barack Obama critics who, not content with monitoring his myriad mistakes in domestic policies, insist that there must be a seamless connection of those with his foreign policy. Strangely, these critics, who correctly doubt the propriety and capacity of the U.S. government controlling our complex society, simultaneously fault the government for not having vast competence to shape the destinies of other societies. Such critics persist because, as Upton Sinclair wrote in 1935, 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.'"

eonii, George Will doesn't appreciate your Governance 101 incompetence.

HTTR

Posted by: tony11 | February 9, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Jennifer Rubin is a complete jackass and has not even read ultra-Obama hater George Will’s latest column.

from the desk of George Will: . .

“. . . . there is a cottage industry of Barack Obama critics who, not content with monitoring his [ supposed ] myriad mistakes in domestic policies, insist that there must be a seamless connection of those with his foreign policy.

Strangely, these critics, who correctly doubt the propriety and capacity of the U.S. government controlling our complex society, simultaneously fault the government for not having vast competence to shape the destinies of other societies.

In 1949, when communists came to power there, America bestrode both hemispheres shattered from war. Americans thought that their nation was at the wheel of the world and that whatever happened, wherever, happened at America's instigation, or at least its sufferance, or was evidence of American negligence.

It is a sign of national maturity - the product of hard learning, from Korea and Vietnam to Iraq and Afghanistan - that fewer American complainers are today faulting the Obama administration for not anticipating and shaping events in Egypt. . . . . . . . Israel, which lives next door to Egypt and has an excellent intelligence service, did not see this coming.” -- GW

Posted by: Here2day | February 9, 2011 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama should stay out of it - No matter which side wins, we will get blamed by the other side because we stuck our nose in it.

Posted by: iluv9mm | February 9, 2011 6:14 PM | Report abuse

the confusion is caused by one thing. the fact that radical muslims will take over and there is nothing the world can do about it and nothing the arab world will do about it. a wide majority of egyptians support sharia law, want sharia law. and thats what they'll get. they had best keep it in their borders as the world is growing weary of them.

Posted by: 12thgenamerican | February 9, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: SeniorVet | February 9, 2011 5:52 PM

Well, gee whiz....the president is still getting his "on the job training"....another few years and no telling how valuable his decisions will be for this nation....(if we can wait that long!)

_______________________

Would you prefer he remained an ignoramus and used his gut instincts, or listened to God?

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 9, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

A lack of leadership by Obama on an issue? SHOCKING!!!! Add this one to a long list of leadership failures.

Even the WaPo journolist crowd has devoted itself to attacking conservatives rather than printing positive Obama articles...they know it won't sell to anyone that pays attention.

Posted by: Tostitos | February 9, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I know it's hard for you to believe, but it's not our choice, is it? The Egyptian people will decide and the biggest mistake we could make would be to get too closely involved and be seen as trying to squash this uprising.
At this moment, republicans are very stirred up about the defict (or so they say) maybe we should stop shoveling money to support dictators?
just a thought!

Posted by: michael5 | February 9, 2011 7:10 PM | Report abuse

If George Will is calling you out, re: blaming Obama for anything and everything, then you know the gig is up. Mr. Will, in today's op-ed, takes aim at Jennifer Rubin et al:

"It also would be amazing, because there is a cottage industry of Barack Obama critics who, not content with monitoring his myriad mistakes in domestic policies, insist that there must be a seamless connection of those with his foreign policy. Strangely, these critics, who correctly doubt the propriety and capacity of the U.S. government controlling our complex society, simultaneously fault the government for not having vast competence to shape the destinies of other societies. Such critics persist because, as Upton Sinclair wrote in 1935, 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.'"

eonii, George Will doesn't appreciate your Governance 101 incompetence.

HTTR

Posted by: tony11
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I agree with Will's column generally. We tend to think we have more control over foreign events than we actually do, especially when it comes to transforming someone else's society -- madness!

Where I part with Will is mostly in emphasis. I think we must use whatever limited influence we have judiciously -- mostly behind the scenes -- to prevent disastrous outcomes like a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt.

Obama's conduct of this crisis -- silly grandstanding and subsequent waffling and backtracking once our allies explained the situation on the ground to him -- has just made America look weak and irresolute, alienating both the pro-democracy protesters and the regime. I wish Obama would read Machiavelli and get a clue about his responsibilities as a powerful leader and the real world consequences of his fecklessness.

Posted by: eoniii | February 9, 2011 7:13 PM | Report abuse


OH,

W're all so concerned that Israel is confused/

How can they run all over Europe (as Peres has) working against US policy..

use a turn coat traitor who
when sent to talk to Mubarack by the US president and then betray his mission...

use every stinking trick possible to thwart democracy in Egypt...

send every stinking Spaghetti Alphabet soup "think tank" working for Israel to scream how America shouldn't support freedom in Egypt...using the boogy man
Muslim Brotherhood, chaos, any excuse. So they can continue to use their apartheid. They look so stupid and obvious.

Thank god for Egpt in many ways...for it's hope for the EGyptians,

and because it's so clear to so many Americans now just
what Israel is. And THAT ISN'T friend of the United States , or democracy.

Posted by: whistling | February 9, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

It is hard to grasp the assumption that Obama (or any president) can influence a revolution in Egypt. Obama was not elected to president of Egypt; Obama does not send a "personal check" to Egypt (Congress does).

Posted by: rmorris391 | February 9, 2011 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Characteristic but otherwise inimitable Rubin baloney (my Post-friendly euphemism). She must pine for the days of certainty under w. Bush, weapons of mass destruction (fictional) and Bush's unAmerican torture (all too real). Plus, of course, Bush's lies to all of us in denying it all.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 9, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse


The WHite HOuse isn't filled with Jews any more,

the Pentagon isn't filled with Jews any more.

The zionist media have the credibility of a dead rat. Americans know better now. Al Jazeera was watched universally last week, and this.

So the Israelis aren't getting their way, as they did in the subsumed GWBush admninistration...to the GREAT detriment of the United States of America.

Scream on, it has just begun. Who thinks Israel will be there in 15 or 20 years? Apartheid isn't sustainable. Egypt can't be kept down so Israel can grab land.

Posted by: whistling | February 9, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Characteristic but otherwise inimitable Rubin baloney (my Post-friendly euphemism). She must pine for the days of certainty under w. Bush, weapons of mass destruction (fictional) and Bush's unAmerican torture (all too real). Plus, of course, Bush's lies to all of us in denying it all.

Posted by: jimsteinberg1 | February 9, 2011 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Rubin in an irreducible idiot.

Posted by: russellglee | February 9, 2011 7:49 PM | Report abuse

"Regarding foreign affairs Rubin doesn't know her butt from a hole in the ground."

Got me again -- but what a classy chassis -- and still "bumming" those Britishers outta here

Yes, who among us could pick theirs out of a lineup -- we'll make an exception -- you're the one on the left with the (logo-or-some-other-kind)rrhea, yeah!

Kidding, kidding! ;-)

Posted by: aardunza | February 9, 2011 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Ella's scatting again -- let her defectate to the Commies!

Posted by: aardunza | February 9, 2011 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Forrest Gump says:

Wow -- saw headline ad "Al Jazeera English
leads the way", and momentarily thought it was referring to a new Al Jarreau album or something!

Is the technical term for this a brain f**t?

Posted by: aardunza | February 10, 2011 2:51 AM | Report abuse

No disrespect intended to Ms. Rubin, but WaPo editors/publisher, you don't currently have a dimmer, low-wattage bulb than this one. She is worthy of the likes of Townhall, not the WaPo. There HAVE to be better "con" voices you could hire to fill this slot. Week in and week out, her ledes insult the intelligence of every reader, regardless of political persuasion.

Please replace her. I promise, she'll find employment in some right wing institute; but we don't need this low performance here.

Thank you.

Posted by: abqcleve | February 9, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse
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While I sharply disagree with Rubin, I find this posting by abqleve to be truly alarming.

For decades, self-righteous liberals have dominated academia and frightened everyone who is not PC away from opening their mouths.

I disagree with Rubin, but I disagree with censorship far more.

Posted by: rjpal | February 9, 2011 5:38 PM"
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censorship <------- This word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Patzer111 | February 10, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

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