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Posted at 11:17 AM ET, 02/ 3/2011

Soros blames Jews for Egypt

By Jennifer Rubin

Today George Soros's latest dose of vitriol against Israel appears in the pages of The Post. Soros vouches for a potential Egyptian government comprised of the Muslim Brotherhood and Mohamed ElBaradei. But then he goes on:

The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves. Fortunately, Obama is not beholden to the religious right, which has carried on a veritable vendetta against him. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community. The main danger is that the Obama administration will not adjust its policies quickly enough to the suddenly changed reality.

This is the "Israel lobby" canard writ large. In his view, apparently Obama is a pawn of Israel and of American Jews. (Odd Soros thinks so little of Obama since Soros raised millions for his election.) This is rubbish. Israel may be concerned about the turmoil and fear a post-Mubarak Egypt, but there's no evidence that is the cause of Obama's inertness. And, moreover, what evidence is there that "U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis"? In fact, the exact opposite is true, as pointed out by figures as ideologically diverse as Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic and Elliott Abrams, former deputy national security adviser to George W. Bush .

And why the slur against AIPAC? Oh, yes, Soros funds J Street, founded as a declared opponent of and alternative to AIPAC. J Street, of course, has called for the U.S. to join in condemning Israel at the U.N.

One wonders how the defenders of Soros, many Jews among them, feel about this. Can we expect 400 rabbis to express outrage? I won't hold my breath.

By Jennifer Rubin  | February 3, 2011; 11:17 AM ET
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Comments

Did AIPAC pay you for this, Jen?

Posted by: jckdoors | February 3, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

“Can we expect 400 rabbis to express outrage?”

Fuggetaboutit. But I wonder how many are privately blushing.

Posted by: nvjma | February 3, 2011 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Soros says" And SOME U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves"

Rubin quotes Soros, "U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis"?

She just omitted one little word.

Posted by: rcaruth | February 3, 2011 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Jen,

You do realize blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews...

Posted by: jrav13 | February 3, 2011 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Pathetic misinterpretation (or outright distortion) of what Soros wrote.

Posted by: steveh46 | February 3, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

steven46 - Sorry, soros blames Israel, which was the point of her post. I know its hard for a liberal to understand the depths of lunacy someone like Soros generates but sometimes the truth hurts.

Posted by: belmontbob | February 3, 2011 12:11 PM | Report abuse

"Soros Blames Jews for Egypt"

Inflammatory rhetoric is something you conservatives really seem to like. I mean, sure, it wins you supporters, but don't you worry about plunging a once-thriving democracy into a muddled mess where propaganda, misinformation, and rhetoric have taken the place of facts?

Posted by: joshlct | February 3, 2011 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Jen,
You do realize blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews...
Posted by: jrav13

I will help her out because she will not get involved in disputation regarding her edicts.
Rubin doesn't accept your distinction. To her, Israel is the actual personification of all Jews living and dead. This is similiar to the Christian belief that the communion wine&wafer is literally the body/blood of Christ. For Rubin,Israel is the transsubstantiation of the Jews into the State of Israel.

Posted by: rcaruth | February 3, 2011 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Those silly Israelis don't even appreciate how much they stand to gain from a new government in Cairo controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood -- you know, the gentle folks who want to tear up the peace treaty with Israel and prepare for war.

Those silly Coptic Christians, 10+% of Egypt's population, also don't understand how wonderful the Brotherhood is. Their pope is supporting Mubarak. Something about a few trivial MB attacks on Christian churches.

But, never fear, the enlightened Obama administration has decreed that a new Egyptian government must include "non-secular" parties, and we all know that means the Muslim Brotherhood, founder and sponsor of Hamas. The official credo of the Muslim Brotherhood is:

"Allah is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Koran is our law, Jihad is our way, and dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. Allahu akbar!"

But don't worry. They mean "dying in the way of Allah" only in the metaphorical spiritual sense. Same as with their peaceful slogan, "We love death more than you love life". They do.

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

- Did AIPAC pay you for this, Jen?

Hey, jckdoors, did Soros pay you for you this racial slur?

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 12:26 PM | Report abuse

As a Jew, I am extremely offended by your equation of Israel support with Jews, I find it much more anti-Semitic than Soros statement. Soros is not critical of Jews. He is critical of the Israeli government. He is responsible enough to identify that AIPAC and Israel are misrepresentative of the Jewish community. You are making a very large and offensive generalization across a large and diverse group of people. The actions of the Israeli government do not represent international Jews as a whole. It is articles like this, that wrongfully equate international Jewry with Israel, that inspire those wronged by the Israeli government to hate all Jews instead of just the Israeli military that displaced them.

Blaming the geopolitical reality of Israel and it's regime is not offensive to American Jews ( as you so presumptively tagged this article); your failure to recognize that all Jews everywhere are not the same is offensive. Replacing the word Israelis with Jews and then with American Jews is inexcusably ignorant.

Soros not once derides Jews, he respectfully acknowledges that AIPAC is not remotely representative of the Jewish community, in America or in Israel.

Posted by: Atom_and_eve | February 3, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Boroda

"- Did AIPAC pay you for this, Jen?

Hey, jckdoors, did Soros pay you for you this racial slur?"

In what alternate world is that a racial slur, I mean really

Posted by: Atom_and_eve | February 3, 2011 12:40 PM | Report abuse

@joshlct, rcaruth
...blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews...

It is the same when the Soros' statements are wrong and insulting to our intelligence. You are saying that falsely blaming Israel is not the same as falsely blaming Jews. It is the same, just a banal PC trick.

Soros despises Israeli democracy as much he despises our. He is hard-nosed collectivist and his sympathy for every nasty collectivist movement (Socialism, Islamism...) is beyond any doubt. He funds vast Anti-Jewish Lobby in the US while trying to stay in the shadow as much as he can.

He must play by American rules. If he wants to play politics he should openly run for office - and be trashed by the voters. Hell with the racist puppeteers.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Blame Moses for leaving Egypt without slave workers

Posted by: steve44122 | February 3, 2011 12:53 PM | Report abuse

@joshlct, @rcaruth
...blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews...

It is the same when the statements are deliberate and insulting to our intelligence. You are saying that falsely blaming Israel is not the same as falsely blaming Jews. It is the same, just a banal PC trick, which cannot dupe anyone.

Soros despises Israeli democracy as much he despises our. He is hard-nosed collectivist and his sympathy for every nasty anti-humanist movement (Socialism, Islamism...) is beyond any doubt. He funds vast Anti-Jewish Lobby in the US while trying to stay in the shadow as much as he can.

He must play by American rules. If he wants to play politics, he should openly run for office - and be trashed by the voters.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 12:55 PM | Report abuse

From the associated press article on Israeli government views on the Egypt crisis:

"Critics — including senior Israeli officials who have shied from saying so publicly — maintain Obama is repeating the same mistakes of predecessors whose calls for human rights and democracy in the Middle East have often backfired by bringing anti-West regimes to power.

Israeli officials, while refraining from open criticism of Obama, have made no secret of their view that shunning Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and pushing for swift elections in Egypt could bring unintended results."

So when our staunchest ally in the region (and one of our closest in the world) expresses concern publicly about a regional problem then yes that may be influencing Obama. So it does sound like Israel is a stumbling block. But that doesnt mean (not does the Soros article imply) that that is the sole reason Obama has been cautious.

This column seems to me very much a knee jerk and somewhat petulant reaction to Soros article. It somehow transforms Soros mild suggestion that Israel is influencing our response to the Egypt crisis (which is perfectly reasonable as Israel is a strong ally) into "Soros blames Jews for Egypt."

Posted by: SteveCanyon | February 3, 2011 1:00 PM | Report abuse

"Jen,

You do realize blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews..."

Oh, it's almost always blaming the Jews masquerading as blaming Israel. Just take an old canard, put some new paint on it, and Voila - plausible deniability.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 3, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Jen, you work for the WaPo who allowed this antisemitic creed to be printed. You should resign in protest. If you don't then then some of it is on your hands.

Posted by: Dalibama | February 3, 2011 1:11 PM | Report abuse

The Likuds and the Neocons are a minor component of the Jews. Most of the the Jews I know are are not very enthusiastic about Neoconism,Likudism,or the policy of ambiguity. I suppose that most Jews are antisemitic from the viewpoint of Turn Right.

Posted by: rcaruth | February 3, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

@Atom_and_eve
As a Jew, I am extremely offended by...

Look, nobody cares here which Synagogue, Mosque or Church you belong to. Neither I care what exactly is genetic composition of your testicles.

You can voice your opinion, but do not even think you are representative of any group: political, religious, racial. - This is, by the way, my personal opinion, not the Jewish one.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 1:14 PM | Report abuse

"One wonders how the defenders of Soros, many Jews among them, feel about this. Can we expect 400 rabbis to express outrage? I won't hold my breath."

Why would Rabbis express outrage of a mild critique of Israel's government and AIPAC?

One wonders why the right wing in their transparent patronizing of Israel can't attract more American Jews to the ranks of the GOP.


Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 1:17 PM | Report abuse

"Soros despises Israeli democracy as much he despises our."

Israel "democracy" makes non Jews second class citizens.

We should all despise it until it actually resembles our own democracy.

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 1:20 PM | Report abuse

George Soros is far more successful and knowledgeable than you will ever be Jen.

Posted by: ExConservative | February 3, 2011 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"Why would Rabbis express outrage of a mild critique of Israel's government and AIPAC? "

Why would Rabbis express outrage at a radio talk show host’s distasteful use of the Shoah for political purposes and not find similar outrage for the all too pervasive blaming the Jews for, well, everything bad in the world? That IS rather obviously Ms. Rubin's point. I’m outraged at Anti-Semitism no matter whether it’s coming from the left or the right. I’ll tell you one thing, there are a hell of a lot more dangerous Anti-Semitic ravings in the world than those emanating from an attention driven talk show host that the Left can’t seem to find any outrage over. So either find similar outrage no matter the political leanings of who is spewing such filth, or shut your hypocritical mouth.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 3, 2011 1:27 PM | Report abuse

@SteveCanyon. Let us read the central paragraph of Soros article:

The main stumbling block is Israel. In reality, Israel has as much to gain from the spread of democracy in the Middle East as the United States has. But Israel is unlikely to recognize its own best interests because the change is too sudden and carries too many risks. And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves.

- These keywords - stumbling, block, rigid, ideological - do not look like "mild suggestion that Israel is influencing our response". The sentiment is obvious. Soros knows better than Bibi what constitutes "[Israel] own best interest", and he clearly knows better than Obama what is ours.

He is completely entitled to push for every political turn he favors, and blame whoever he dislikes: Jews, Christians, Wingnuts. So is Jennifer Rubin, when she points to his brazen dishonesty and Moonbatic trickery.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Jennifer, for once, be honest with us.

You DON'T really want a democracy in Egypt or elsewhere in the Arab world for that matter.

What you want is for a conservative, Israeli-neutral, pro-American, anti-Islamic fundamentalist oligarchy to take power and maintain stability under some thin veneer of carefully rigged non-MB elections, democratic in appearance.


Why don't you just say so?

Posted by: johnmarshall5446 | February 3, 2011 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Remember in Rubin's world: ISRAEL CAN DO NO WRONG.

With this ideological bias in mind, any criticism of Israel's actions and policies or any analysis that entails Israel moving from the status quo are unacceptable to her and her ilk.

What is happening in Egypt is a massive uprooting of the status quo which will cause all US policies to be re-examined - accordingly, any analysis such as Mr. Soros' is valued as one of many voices as to how to deal with the new future.

Posted by: chet380 | February 3, 2011 1:44 PM | Report abuse

@thetruth2011
Israel "democracy" makes non Jews second class citizens. We should all despise it until it actually resembles our own democracy.

Whatever your views about Israel democracy, you did not deny my assertion

"Soros despises Israeli democracy as much he despises our"

that Soros does despise our American capitalist "democracy". Fair enough.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

I’d say its Israel’s detractors who believe that Israel can do no right. Those who defend Israel must do so in the face of a torrent of obsessive Israel haters with Internet access and a lot of free time on their hands. It’s not those who defend Israel who constantly take to public forums in order to proclaim Israel’s greatness, its invariably Israel’s haters who spend their time on a tireless propaganda campaign shouting how bad Israel is, and its left to people like Ms. Rubin to defend Israel from such pathological obsession and hatred with Israel.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 3, 2011 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Soros is correct. I would guess that Jennifer Rubin is a big time Israel supporter.

"The most significant action Israel could take to demonstrate good faith would be a settlement freeze." - President Reagan 1983

... over and over Israel spits in America's face... under GWB's Roadmap to Peace and again today with the Obama administration ... it's clear that the right-wing extremist Zionist do not want peace!

The New Israel Lobby
The Israel lobby had succeeded in ruling almost any criticism of Israel out of bounds, especially in Congress. “The bottom line,” Mearsheimer and Walt wrote, “is that Aipac, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that U.S. policy is not debated there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/13/magazine/13JStreet-t.html

Posted by: kkrimmer | February 3, 2011 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Jennifer,

Sorry. Can't agree with you on this one.

AIPAC's webpage at this moment reads: "Israel concerned Egypt May Fall to Islamic Extremists". Pro Israel neo-cons were not shy about saying El Baradei was a "stooge" of Iran, despite El Baradei's importance to building a unity transitional government .

Leslie Gelb, Marty Peretz, Guy Bechor to name a few clearly are aligned with Israel's security over democracy in the Egypt. Do you actually deny this to be true?

Posted by: jeremiah1967 | February 3, 2011 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I think the problem with this column is that Jennifer accurately quotes Soros initially, but then selectively edits his points when trying to rebut his opinion to make it easier for her to be correct.

For example, Soros says:
"And some U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves"

Jennifer's response is:
"And, moreover, what evidence is there that "U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis"? In fact, the exact opposite is true, as pointed out by figures as ideologically diverse as Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic and Elliott Abrams, former deputy national security adviser to George W. Bush."

She drops the word "some" to make it seem like Soros claimed all US supporters of Israel are rigid and ideological than Israelis, which Jennifer can then easily rebut.

As for criticism of Israel, I doubt there is any country on this planet that is immune from criticism. If there are those that believe criticism of Israel is secret code for criticism of all Jews, then so be it. I don't doubt there are really some people who do use Israel as shorthand for the Jews, but I think automatically assuming it ends up demonizing legitimate criticism.

Posted by: mustangs79 | February 3, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

No the Rabbis are apparently too busy condemning the City Paper on behalf of Daniel Snyder for a three month old article.

Posted by: genericrepub | February 3, 2011 2:05 PM | Report abuse

So now do the Jews have the right of return to Egypt? The American Indians get back Manhattan?

Posted by: elcigaro1 | February 3, 2011 2:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Atom_and_Eve!So I won't repeat those points, however Boroda! Take a chill pill!

I think the only issue to look at are what's best for the people of Egypt? I'm suspect of the Muslim Brotherhood, call me crazy, but as another poster sarcastically pointed out, the MB is possibly responsible for setting church fires. Although the gov't did nothing about it.

Naturally, a monotheistic dominating political system is not good for the people; we do not want religious persecutions.

Soros is not blaming the Jews! If you read his article, you will realize that.

Posted by: hebe1 | February 3, 2011 2:13 PM | Report abuse

The Muslim Brotherhood has already called for war on Israel, as reported in the Jerusalem Post. What is it about that that Soros finds attractive? Thanks to Ms. Rubin for taking on this monster-of-the-midway.

I hitched through the Mideast 45 years ago this time of year. I loved the Arabs in general, but found their tribal hatred of Jews and Israel to be hard to stomach. We hitchers used to refer to Israel on the streets of the Arab Mideast as "Disneyland," because merely saying the word "Israel" could draw an angry crowd in minutes. It also wasn't uncommon to see a loving portrait of Hitler in shops in bazaars such as that in Damascus.

Ironically, at that time when Jerusalem was a divided city like Berlin--part in what my passport called the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan and half in Israel--all the Euro and Yank lefties were going into Israel to work on the socialist kibbutz farms. Now they are Israel's sworn enemies. Leftist are fickle folk who can't remember yesterday much less deeper history.

Posted by: tom75 | February 3, 2011 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Look at the histerical jew reaction. They keep beep beating on the Chruch and find that to be freedom of experession. Say one bad thing about them and OY VEY!
The Washington Jewish post scours the world to find anti-Christian stories and then pro jewish items.

Posted by: Mark32 | February 3, 2011 2:16 PM | Report abuse

@johnmarshall5446
"Jennifer, for once, be honest with us.
You DON'T really want a democracy in Egypt or elsewhere in the Arab world for that matter".

- I have no idea what is Rubin's strategic prescription the US policy towards Egypt, Israel, Brotherhood, Hamas etc. She did not write political review. Maybe she should, but this is up to her.

She attacked Soros for his - how to say it softer - rabid ideology that puts the threat of real bloody (nuclear?) war - under the blanket of banal lefty demagoguery.

So, maybe Rubin indeed hates liberty and fancies herself as a privileged concubine at the court of some Arab despot - I did not read her mind.

Let me make a suggestion to resolve our dispute. Before water-boarding Rubin to extort the truth about her views, I will be willing to see the evidence if you have it. So, please, do data-mining and parsing of her text, and come up with the data. We will review it together.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 2:22 PM | Report abuse

@johnmarshall5446
"Jennifer, for once, be honest with us.
You DON'T really want a democracy in Egypt or elsewhere in the Arab world for that matter".

- I have no idea what is Rubin's strategic prescription the US policy towards Egypt, Israel, Brotherhood, Hamas etc. She did not write political review. Maybe she should, but this is up to her.

She attacked Soros for his - how to say it softer - rabid ideology that puts the threat of real bloody (nuclear?) war - under the blanket of banal lefty demagoguery.

So, maybe Rubin indeed hates liberty and fancies herself as a privileged concubine at the court of some Arab despot - I did not read her mind.

Let me make a suggestion to resolve our dispute. Before water-boarding Rubin to extort the truth about her views, I will be willing to see the evidence if you have it. So, please, do data-mining and parsing of her text, and come up with the data. We will review it together.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 2:23 PM | Report abuse

boroda, inflammatory rhetoric is just as damaging when it's done by liberals. Liberals don't do it nearly as much as conservatives, though... one of the reasons I choose to self-identify as liberal.

Posted by: joshlct | February 3, 2011 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Mark32 wrote:
Look at the histerical jew reaction. They keep beep beating on the Chruch and find that to be freedom of experession. Say one bad thing about them and OY VEY!
The Washington Jewish post scours the world to find anti-Christian stories and then pro jewish items.

- Well, Soros, this how this country will be speaking if you prevail.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Soros is an idiot, plain and simple.

It is hard to comprehend how much history these people have behind them. The U.S. is not even 250 years old, yet Egypt has thousands of years of history. I don't think those in the U.S. can really relate to what these people are going through. We found this beautiful image titled "The Ancient and the Modern" which articulates some of that history and brings it into perspective.

http://precisiontradingsolutions.blogspot.com

Posted by: kjordan3637 | February 3, 2011 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Bottom Line: For the past 5 decades and still . . . Israel is not so subtly eliminating Palestinians by destroying their markets and housing, by restricting their access to water, and by keeping Gaza as a copy of the infamous Warsaw Ghetto.

Tragically, the former Nazi Victims are now Nazis themselves!

Sad Fact! An WE support their genocidal actions.

Posted by: lufrank1 | February 3, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Funny, I read the same Soros piece and did not have the least impression that he was "blaming Egypt on the jews". Identifying Israel as a "stumbling block" to the path that he thinks the USA should take in the Egyptian crisis is not the same thing as blaming Isreal for the crisis and certainly not blaming jews. This peice is a knee-jerk, intellectually bankrupt example of race-baiting. Ms. Rubin should be ashamed to put her name to it.

Posted by: sux123 | February 3, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Soros is saying that Israel can't understand the benefits of a Muslim Brotherhood-dominated would. As with Hamas a few years ago, the left is convinced the responsibility of governing would moderate the MB's extremist tendencies. A lot of Jews in the 1930s feared Hitler might really mean what he said, but once he took power ... oh, wait.

Soros clearly implies that Obama can't act more overtly in support of a MB-controlled government because of the Jews. That's Soros's only reason to mention AIPAC -- the particular Jews that leftists such as Soros believe are in full control of US foreign policy. So the lawyerly distinction some posters are trying to make between Israel and the Jews doesn't exist in Soros's mind. To the left it's always the Jews.

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 2:38 PM | Report abuse

boroda:

I guess I was basing my post on other readers being familiar with Jennifer's week long columns about how democracy in Egypt would be a good thing.

The irony here is that she holds essentially the same position as Soros, but has so many internal conflicts on Egypt over her several rabidly held positions, one of which is hatred of George Soros.

For instance she opens with:

"Soros vouches for a potential Egyptian government comprised of the Muslim Brotherhood and Mohamed ElBaradei."

in a derisive mention.

However if the democracy she so strenuously advocated were actually to take place, the biggest winners would presumably be MB, the largest, best organized opposition party, and El-Baradei the supposed non-MB opposition leader, who elsewhere she has branded an "opportunist".

Does that clarify things?

Posted by: johnmarshall5446 | February 3, 2011 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The US does not have a strategic interest in Egypt. Even the Canal, an important waterway, would stay open no matter who is in power because the income it brings in is desperately needed.

On the other hand, Egypt is quite important to Israel. Because of Mubarek's friendship, Israel has not had to defend its border with Egypt.

Clearly, re Egypt, the strategic interests of the US and Israel differ. And the US has already paid a heavy price for the Arab anger stirred up by our support for the Egyptian dictator.


Posted by: Sion1 | February 3, 2011 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Soros is saying that Israel can't understand the benefits of a Muslim Brotherhood-dominated government. [Correction to my post above]

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 2:43 PM | Report abuse

boroda,
are you paid bu AIPAC or the washington jewish post for your constant and vile pro jewish comments?

Posted by: Mark32 | February 3, 2011 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Re: "Soros Blames Jews For Egypt"

Oh Ms. Rubin, aren't you the clever one. Is it bliss you feel every time you equate any criticism of Israel or disagreement with your views as anti-semitism?

I thank you...for making it very clear just how low you will sink for a few extra clicks. And I thank the Washington Post too -- for having the courage to pay you every time you state that someone who disagrees with you has a problem with Jews. It tells us much about that organization too.

Your parents must be very proud.

Posted by: wkristol | February 3, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Lufrank wrote: Israel is not so subtly eliminating Palestinians by destroying their markets and housing, by restricting their access to water, and by keeping Gaza as a copy of the infamous Warsaw Ghetto.

Um, lufrank, before you libel Israel, perhaps a little dose of truth: http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=206674

Posted by: StanleyTee | February 3, 2011 2:45 PM | Report abuse

“Bottom Line: For the past 5 decades and still . . . Israel is not so subtly eliminating Palestinians by destroying their markets and housing, by restricting their access to water, and by keeping Gaza as a copy of the infamous Warsaw Ghetto.”

If Israel is eliminating the Palestinians then they must be absolutely incompetent at it since the Palestinian population has continued to increase since 1967. As for Gaza, Israel gave it to the Palestinians in 2005, and the Palestinians responded by electing Hamas, a terrorist organization that seeks to destroy Israel and eliminate every Jew in Israel. Despite this, Israel continues to provide Gaza with humanitarian aid. No other country except Israel would provide humanitarian aid to the place that seeks to destroy it, yet amazingly the haters demonize Israel even for this. Your Nazi comparisons are repugnant and contrary to the facts, get back to me when Israel sets up death camps and begins to methodically liquidate the entire Palestinian population. Since that has not happened, nor will it happen, you’re just an anti-Semite spreading hatred by falsely imputing Genocide to the Jews and intentionally choosing the Nazi comparison for the sole reason that you know it will be the most hurtful comparison.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 3, 2011 2:47 PM | Report abuse

JRapp, please be sure to check out the link I posted just above your post. People like lufrank will find this hard to believe, but it appears that Gaza is actually smuggling food, fruit and other supplies INTO Egypt to feed people in the Sinai!

Posted by: StanleyTee | February 3, 2011 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Nazi Jewish collaborator George Soros can routinely and frequently find a myriad of bitterly negative accusations to make about Israel or Israel's American supporters. Soros also manages invest millions of dollars subsidizing and supporting dozens of anti American, anti Israel, and anti Semitic American, Arab, and European organizations, some of whom publicly declare their desire to destroy the Jewish State and carry out a genocide of the Jews. And yet Soros will deny any particular hostility to Jews or Israel. This is similar to those who comment in support of Soros's distasteful, tendentious, and truly anti Semitic diatribe masquerading as a critique of Israel. These writers try to disguise their real bigotry against Jews while blaming Israel for every problem, conflict, disease, or unpleasant international incident that occurs anywhere. They loudly proclaim that they don't hate Jews, just that pesky Israel.
The really sick and disgusting aspect is that some of the worst Jew haters are Jewish.

Posted by: Beniyyar | February 3, 2011 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Rand Paul is promoting a 500 Billion dollar cut in the Federal budget. Everything he wants to cut is OK with Rubin except for aid to Israel,and War money.
The truth is that not one dollar of cuts will happen until the Congress consists of many Rand Pauls and the President is Rand Paulish.
With this amazing tea party election in 2010,only two members of congress are serious about spending cuts,Paul and Paul.

Posted by: rcaruth | February 3, 2011 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@joshict
"boroda, inflammatory rhetoric is just as damaging when it's done by liberals."

- Honestly, this is complicated. In an analytical publication - yes, it would be idiotic to do shouting matches.

But, Soros did not write policy review. He slammed Israel without any provocation.

They are just saying the obvious: this revolution may turn deadly, so US as the guarantor of the Camp David Treaty, should keep it intact through the turmoil. Then the Jews may be a little more sanguine about Brotherhood prospects. Sounds fair to me.

Soros should have written a direct honest article arguing against too much of the US efforts regarding the Treaty. He could say, for example, that Israel game does not worth the candle. So if the war breaks in some future, we should stay neutral. Fine with me. I would find good counter-arguments, if you wish to be a nice professorial guy and exercise game theory.

But instead of (as a financial speculator, this should be his method) calculating Israel's market value and judging it too low, he plunged into quasi-Nazi propaganda, about anonymous vicious Israel supporters injecting Zionist venom into Obama ear.

He made a mistake. That was not kosher. He started the war, Rubin responded in kind. She was right, by the way, to whack him with the stick. And now you know, a la guerre comme a la guerre.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Soros article is just not to be understood, unless he is talking as a good Hungarian Anti-Semite. If so he should go there and stay there.

This time Israel has really nothing to do with Egypt and what is happening. You can always blame the Jew and Israel for anything, actually. The USA made it a policy now to have such blame game going on but it is proven wrong by the facts.
The USA have propagated the notion that the Israel-Palestinian (false) conflict is to be blamed for everything and therefore decided to let fall their "friends" Israel. The truth is that the USA are the bigger donor of the Palestinian and not their Arab brothers! Obama and Co. sold Israel for nothing and hoped to get oil (cheap) and money. History is now proving that it does not go in their direction at all.
Fundamentalists will take over and no friends will be found there. Oil cannot drank for breakfast but the dealing will be more difficult, notwithstanding the kowtow Washington is doing.
Neither Soros nor the USA are ruling the world: their illusions and dreams are going to end and a new world will be there, if we like it or not.

PS: Are the Israelis and the Jews also guilty for having one team of the super bowl losing?

Posted by: roby3926 | February 3, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

This is the first post of yours that I have read. And it will be the last. In this fast moving world there is not enough time for such egotistic, strong opinions with so little reflection.

Posted by: wminot1 | February 3, 2011 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear, this is my first time reading your diatribe, and it will be the last.

Posted by: wminot1 | February 3, 2011 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth does Rubin describe Soros'piece as vitriolic ? This is the typical ad hominem technique of the Right. Soros makes his points clearly and calmly. Disagree with them, fine. But if you want to find real vitriol, look a Glen Beck's "documentary" about Soros, which in its twisting of facts and damning by association and misrepresentation, is straight out of Thiries Germany.

Posted by: geoffreyjames | February 3, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

The really sick and disgusting aspect is that some of the worst Jew haters are Jewish.
Posted by: Beniyyar

We need some enlightenment,is antisemitism hatred of Jews,of Judaism,or Israel,or is it all three? Were the Hebrew prophets(Exekiel) anti-semitic when they condemned the Jews for not adhereing to their religion,and predicting that God will make them suffer for their lapses. What would Exekiel say about the Likuds and the Neocons?

Posted by: rcaruth | February 3, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Rubin is overreacting but if she has a point it is this. There are reactionary forces in Israel as there are elsewhere in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia, for example, is a bulwark of Islamic Conservatism and is about as antidemocratic as you want to get. Corruption is widespread and an explosion is avoided because that corruption is legitimized in the religiously sanctioned social structure and distribution of power in this shrouded society.

The possibility that the revolutions sweeping the Middle East will lead to Islamist governments is there and that makes Israel and the West nervous. The more likely possibility is that these revolutions will have imperfect democratic outcomes and the political liberation of the secular Arab Street will likely increase pressure on the Israelis to back off on the harsh Palestinian containment and reach a negotiated peace settlement.

However, for Israel to negotiate in good faith, the Likud coalition must fall. Likud and its even more rightwing allies have no intention of arriving at a negotiated settlement that would compromise any of their positions. Security is always an issue with the Israelis but in the case of a peace deal it is not the lynch pin.

The other problem for Israel is Hamas and Gaza. But that is also a false obstacle. A negotiated settlement can be reached without the participation of Hamas and like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, they will want a seat at the table once they suspect that the other parties are serious about arriving at a settlement and the trend is moving in that direction.

Posted by: knowscience | February 3, 2011 3:14 PM | Report abuse

@Mark32
boroda,
are you paid bu AIPAC or the washington jewish post for your constant and vile pro jewish comments?

- I am not paid, but yes, I am vilely pro-jewish. And also anti-Fascist. Any problem with this, pal? I do like Jews. And almost everyone else. Not the Nazis.

By the way, you play here important social role directed by AIPAC, reminding the viewers that American Nazism is not a fantasy, but ugly reality. How much did they pay you?

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 3:20 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post really doesn't need another blind right wing hack. They already have Krauthammer, Thiessen, Gerson, et al. People like Rubin exist on a different planet, one in which the Israelis can do no wrong. And oh, if only that were the truth.

Posted by: gposner | February 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Rubin's method here is to caricature and exaggerate what Soros actually wrote and then attack the straw man she has created. Why is a woman who writes so dishonestly given a column in the Post? She has been channeling Glenn Beck.

Posted by: turningfool | February 3, 2011 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Both George Soros and Jennifer Rubin are Jewish. I'm not going to get in the middle of any argument between them. How to handle Israel is something the Jewish community is rightfully coming to grips with. Despite AIPAC, I admire the justice of that the American Jewish community is taking to this debate.

Posted by: kgblankinship1 | February 3, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

ASSOCIATED PRESS
PATTANI, Thailand—Suspected Muslim insurgents opened fire Thursday on a grocery store in Thailand's insurgency-plagued south, killing five Buddhist bystanders, police said."

Soros and libs would blame Jews for this as well. They are equally responsible for innocents' massacre at the hands of Muslims

Posted by: DavidSinkler | February 3, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

"Whatever your views about Israel democracy, you did not deny my assertion"

I also didn't deny that you enjoy molesting collies.

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 3:27 PM | Report abuse

So Soros is a Nazi collaborator because as a young man (more a boy) went with his Christian "father" (he was hiding with a Christian family) when the father went to confiscate property of Jews?

I wonder what right wingers think of Prescott Bush financing Hitler? I guess that was a good thing.

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 3:30 PM | Report abuse

"Rubin's method here is to caricature and exaggerate what Soros actually wrote and then attack the straw man she has created. Why is a woman who writes so dishonestly given a column in the Post? She has been channeling Glenn Beck."

But Glen Beck has no responsibility to inform his viewers honestly......at least according to Jennifer Rubin

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

If Israel can't stand on its own as a country, then it needs to be dispersed as the Romans did.

Bluntly, that place hadn't existed for 2000 years. Somehow, I can't see the US tolerating a few other countries stepping in and forcing an independent Indian reservation as its own country. And yet, that is EXACTLY how Israel was created.

I have no sympathy for them, none, nada, zip, zilch, and zero.

They cry about the Holocaust and then turn around and enact it on the people that were in that place before France, Britain, etc., stepped in.

No wonder the republicans like them so much, like them sssooooo much that they are willing to grind the United States in the ground in order to support them. Let them move there. They will fit in well as hypocrites.

Posted by: taroya | February 3, 2011 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Great post,Jennifer!

Is Soros a scumbag?

Or just an arrogant,elitist who hates America & it's allies and is having "fun"
upsetting us and creating chaos?

IMO, all of the above.

C'mon November 2012 or IMPEACHMENT!

Posted by: Concerned14 | February 3, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Rubin,

As an American jew, I cannot tell you how repulsive I find your outrageous conflation of Mr. Soros' editorial versus Glenn Beck's horrifying comments regarding a Holocaust survivor and repeating every "canard" of anti-semitism- oh what's that? A jew who wants to create a shadow world government to manipulate and exploit the worlds' economies and resources? Gee, where did your pal Glenn come up with that, Ms. Rubin? Attacking Soros for supporting democratic movements that overthrew communist dictatorships in Eastern Europe? You agree with this, Ms. Rubin? Why, what an anti-democratic hypocrite you are, my dear! Why don't you tell me, Ms. Rubin, the significance of the 3 days that your pal Glenn chose to air his three day anti-semitic extravaganza? Do you know? I do and many jews of all political persuasions didn't miss it either.

Your continued vile hit job on Mr. Soros discredits no one but you. Just you. You continue to show your hypocrisy, your approval of the outrageous, real anti-semitism that your pal, Glenn, continues to spew- attacking jew after jew (did you know of the 9 people he has declared "the most dangerous people to America"- 8 are jews? I do and many jews of all political persuasions didn't miss it either).

Everyone here can read, Ms. Rubin. I read Mr. Soros' editorial and, unlike you, actually understood what he said. You clearly did not. Your embarrassing (for you) inability to comprehend what you clearly did not read indicates you need to slow down, take a break from spewing hate and...RE-READ. Seriously.

Keep on attacking a jew, defending the anti-semitic Glenn, and "slurring" (aww, there's your fantastic hypocrisy again!) over 400 rabbis for daring to speak their opinion. This jew doesn't find you the least bit clever or persuasive and rejects your divisive, repetitive rhetoric- and you know what, Ms. Rubin? I'll stick with my rabbi- you stick with Mr. Beck.

Posted by: rosenbergerin | February 3, 2011 3:35 PM | Report abuse

"that Soros does despise our American capitalist "democracy"."

Capitalism is an economic system.

Democracy is a broad category for a type of government (covering everything from Ancient Greece to the UK to our own Republic).

It would seem that the latest attacks on Soros (as a Nazi or anit Israel)are to insulate the right wing who have been claiming a Jewish man is running the world.

The tipoff is everything seems to be connected to Soros identity as a Jew.

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"I hitched through the Mideast 45 years ago this time of year. I loved the Arabs in general, but found their tribal hatred of Jews and Israel to be hard to stomach"

Could it be the fact that Arab citizens of Israel were under martial law until 1966?

Or that the Israeli state seized all Arab lands as state property from people who fled the violence?

When I spoke of Arab Israeli citizens being second class now...it was nothing compared to what the Arab Israeli citizens had to deal with then.

The situation then was a combination of Jim Crow laws and the Indian land grabs in the 19th century.

Posted by: thetruth2011 | February 3, 2011 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Give the fogie a break; George Soros from his hemorrhoids.

Posted by: aardunza | February 3, 2011 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Rubin says: "Today George Soros's latest dose of vitriol against Israel appears in the pages of The Post."

Does criticism = vitriol?

Commentators in the United States are regressing to the point of aggressive grunts. Rubin puts her arguments in terms of emotion rather than reasoned retort. She has more to win that way.

Posted by: bowsie | February 3, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Just counting down the days until this schlock newspaper goes under.

In its death throes we've been subjected to the basest level of commentary hoping for schock value. Now it's ventured into pure yellow journalism.

I'd suggest the author would be let go if she had a job that required anything like quality workmanship. Unfortunately, since she's just a shlockmeister at the post, they'll just count the clicks and comments. Maybe 5 more years for the Post? Then we can dance on the grave of the sad little venture it's become.


Posted by: bforni | February 3, 2011 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Did Rubin read Soros' piece? Almost nothing she attributes to Soros and criticizes is to be found there.

Posted by: 2swede | February 3, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow.

This is a pretty straightforward critical assessment, but hardly a "dose of vitriol". Then Rubin spins and dances and distorts in order to make a straw-man attack.

Jennifer Rubin is unfit to be a WAPO opinion writer if all she has is manipulative tripe like this. Perhaps she should teach at Glenn Beck U!

Posted by: rapchat1 | February 3, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"One wonders how the defenders of Soros, many Jews among them, feel about this. Can we expect 400 rabbis to express outrage? I won't hold my breath."

For what? For saying Israel needs to get its act together? Believe it or not, it's better to be honest and try to change a nation's course than to ignore its faults.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | February 3, 2011 4:09 PM | Report abuse

As I read it, he identified Israel as a stumbling block to the anti-Mubarak revolution. This seems well founded since Mubarak supports the treaty with Israel whereas members of entities like the Muslim Brotherhood do not. This means that Israel can perceive itself as having a vested interest in the status quo since, despite all its shortcomings, its minimally Israel-neutral.

He then points out that there is an element of Israeli political thought that is more moderate than SOME elements of the pro-Israeli lobby in the US. That is also inarguably true.

It seems that any criticism of AIPAC is to much for Rubin. Moderate voices like Soros will be the salvation of Israel.

Posted by: DatMel | February 3, 2011 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I read Jennifer Rubin's handpicked excerpt, then I read her reaction to it. Apparently, she enclosed the wrong excerpt, because her words and Soros' words are nearly completely unrelated.

Posted by: ScienceTim | February 3, 2011 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, what? Pointing out that AIPAC is "no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community," a demonstrably true statement of fact, is a "slur" on AIPAC? Huh? Is this what passes for analysis on the right? Bald, unsupported, hysterical reactions to simple and easily proven statements of fact? Craven. And shameful.

Posted by: timleary_20016 | February 3, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Stone upon stone, precept upon precept, as it is recorded in the prophets ALL will turn their backs on Israel and her people, thinking that it is in their OWN best interests both individually as nations and corporately as the world. So, we move ever closer to the day when embracing ANY new alignment, regardless of the consequences to the LAND and its people, (all of them), will be considered not only acceptable but the best thing for everyone. Foolish is the man who rejects the counsel of what is written. But, keep looking up, a sudden surprise awaits us all and comes QUICKLY!

Posted by: onebigwave | February 3, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

“As an American jew, I cannot tell you how repulsive I find your outrageous conflation of Mr. Soros' editorial versus Glenn Beck's horrifying comments regarding a Holocaust survivor and repeating every "canard" of anti-semitism- oh what's that?”

@rosenbergerin: Beck’s comments are despicable, but what’s that got to do with the price of Hummus in Israel? We get it, the Left hates Palin and Beck, and the Right hates Soros. Message received. How about instead of selective outrage, we either condemn both Beck and Soros, and everyone else who will use the Shoah or Anti-Semitism for petty partisan gain, rather than myopically focusing on those who don’t happen to agree with our politics? The Rabbis were right to condemn Beck, but where they went wrong was in only condemning Beck. That makes it look like they were focusing on Beck for reasons that have nothing to do with his purported Anti-Semitism. I don’t lose sleep over Beck being wronged, as he probably loves the controversy, but I don’t think that the Rabbis have done the Jewish community any favors when there’s truly virulent Jew hatred out there today and they instead focus all of their efforts on some attention monger talk show host.

I may not always agree with Mr. Foxman, but I gladly give money to the ADL because despite his occassional misjudgements, he doesn't tend to ignore blatant Jew hatred, or minimize it when it's on his side of the political aisle. I don't think that most American Jews intentionally ignore Jew hatred on the Left, it's natural to be more sensitive to it when its from your political opponenents, and there isa cognitive dissonance when your political allies, who you support, also spew hate at you. However, I do wish the Jewish community would be a bit more cognizant of the rise of Jew hatred on the Left, because its all too real and is VERY dangerous to the entire community, whether they are aware of it or not. If 6 million Jews become deligitimized, it won;t be because of Glenn Beck.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 3, 2011 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Lets all make this clear. George Soros father was Jewish and he would/is considered Jewish himself by most standards.

Check the documents listed under the footnotes number 8-11 under this Wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

Anybody who posts anytning under this subject should take that into account before commenting further.

Now, Jennifer Rubin should apologize to Mr. Soros as well as to Jews in general for having written this revolting piece.

Although I am not Jewish myself, I find the most disgusting part in this article being the fact that she pretends to speak on behalf of other people and ethnic groups whom haven't asked for her so-called "defense".

Furthermore, her accusations against Soros are obviously based on a lack of fact-checking.

And what about her rubbish talk about whether 400 rabbis would support Soros or not. So what if they don't? So what if they do? What is she trying to prove besides showing herself being a bigot?

On top of that, Rubin indirectly blames all Jews whom happen to support Mr. Soros to not know what political opinions is best for them. She thinks she know better than they do. Treating all human beings whom happen to be Jewish as children.

Then we of course have her obvious equation with all Israelis or the state of Israel with all Jews worldwide, as well as her assumption that all Israelis would have the same opinions in politics.

No, Jennifer Rubin needs to be fired as a writer for the Washington and never be allowed to work for the Washington Post again.

She is a bigot, inciter antisemite/racist whom shows her contempt for fact-checking, analysis, as well as lack of respect for her fellow human beings and other ethnic and/or religious groups.

Nuff said,

Posted by: thabomuso | February 3, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Israel is America's sacred cow, above criticism.

Posted by: DJ_Spanky | February 3, 2011 4:37 PM | Report abuse

@rosenbergerin
As an American jew, I cannot tell you how repulsive I find your...


- As an American, I say that I find a bad taste and contrary to our democratic principles for you and some other posters who try to gain (false) credibility at the expense of the non-Jewish participants. You can profess your religion or ancestry, but as I said before, I am not interested if your testicles are Jewish or Chinese, or whether you are Hassidic, Catholic, Shia, Golden Calf worshipper, or plain Infidel.

Soros is being criticized not for being a Jew, whatever it means, but for promoting toxic lies about anonimous American Jews (AIPAC? Elders of Zion?) unduly influencing our beloved supreme ruler, Obama, peace be upon him. If Soros becomes aware about some illegal activities on part of conniving American Jews, he should report them immediately to the proper authorities, not spill racist rumors from the pages of this distinguished newspaper.

On the other hand, let it be known to you, Mr. Rosenbergerin, that we all, Jews and Gentiles, are blessed by our Constitution with almost unlimited freedom to respond strongly to any disparaging, false, disturbing, provocative, insulting accusations, especially when they come from way too rich and unscrupulous persons enjoying the huge web of connections, who use their undue influence not openly, as an elected representative of the people, but as a shadow financier and instigator of numerous projects of quite dubious social value, or even criminal enterprises like ACORN.

We, the people, need to have some checks and balances, so the ordinary citizens have an opportunity to offset Soros money and connections by voicing their (polite or angry) disagreements with this particular character. And that what Jennifer Rubin provided on behalf of many of us.

Have a good day, Mr. Rosenbergerin.

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Rubin,

As an American jew, I cannot tell you how repulsive I find your outrageous conflation of Mr. Soros' editorial versus Glenn Beck's horrifying comments regarding a Holocaust survivor and repeating every "canard" of anti-semitism- oh what's that? A jew who wants to create a shadow world government to manipulate and exploit the worlds' economies and resources? Gee, where did your pal Glenn come up with that, Ms. Rubin?

Posted by: rosenbergerin
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Beck has said nothing of the kind, as you will learn if you try to find such comments. Beck is a friend of Israel and not the least bit anti-Semitic. He was criticizing Soros's anti-Semitism. These are facts, whether you agree with Beck's political views or not.

Why do you think Soros mentioned AIPAC in a discussion of Obama's Egypt policy? Because it fits the left's meme about the Jews controlling everything. That's anti-Semitism. You see it also in many of the comments on this blog.

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Ms. Rubin read a very different Soros column than I did.

If I criticize a certain policy of the British government does that make me unequivocally anti-English?

Calling someone who has some constructive criticism about a few policies of an ally anti-semitic is never gonna move the dialog forward.

Posted by: tjconnor | February 3, 2011 4:53 PM | Report abuse

@DJ_Spanky
Israel is America's sacred cow, above criticism.


Spanky, you did not say, "fair" criticism.
Hmm...you say anything, insult, lie, instigate - everything will be eaten by the public... the critics of Israel are above criticism.

Many people criticized Israel for mass murder it did not commit. Would you people falsely pointing to you as a murderer?

Aren't the lying critics of Israel all sacred cows, so people should be left defenseless against rumors that they poison Obama mind?

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

No way does Soros blame Jews for Egypt. This entire article is a lie. Why do you lie so much?

Posted by: Amminadab | February 3, 2011 5:11 PM | Report abuse

As a Jew, I am extremely offended by your equation of Israel support with Jews...
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This is how this works:

(1) Blaming the Jews collectively is anti-Semitism.

(2) Anti-Semitism would invalidate your argument and turn everybody against you.

(3) Criticism of Israel is not blaming the Jews. Therefore, the criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism. Therefore it is acceptable.

I wonder: when the Palestinian crowds chant “dead to the Jews” – do they have in mind the Jewish Israelis or simply the Jews in general?

If you really are a Jew and you happen to find yourself in their hands, do you think that you would be spared because of your critical stance towards the Israeli government? Do you think that it would even matter what your stance about anything whatsoever actually is?

(Hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl)

P.S. Israel is also collectively guilty of the global warming.

Posted by: nahumkorda | February 3, 2011 5:13 PM | Report abuse

@tjconnor
If I criticize a certain policy of the British government does that make me unequivocally anti-English?

- Absolutely, when you deliberately lie. Say that your Cameron eats Afghan children for breakfast, because Anglo-Saxons always did had it this way.

Soros did not "criticize" Israel. He insinuated that American Jews wrongly influence Obama. He lied. No names, no facts.

Would you defend a lair if you share his ideology?

Posted by: boroda | February 3, 2011 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ms Rubin,

I LOVE your piece.

My God, how masterful! How insightful! The way you took a legitimate criticism and blew it up like a truck in a federal building was absolutely a-mazing.

I mean here is some billionaire who is actually interested in using his money to make the world a better place. Yeah right! What's his angle? Is he expanding his political power? Is he part of the Majestic 12? Could he possibly be the anitchrist?! I don't know. I just-don't-know. One thing is for certain though. He HAS to be stopped. George Soros is, in my humble opinion, one of the greatest influences preventing the onset of Armageddon in the US, maybe even the world! As one of the chosen who will undoubtedly ascend to heaven before God's wrath comes (based not in the bible but the infalliable logic of Great Awakening preachers) I am more than a little miffed about this whole "peace, democracy, women's rights and blah blah blah" so-called movement going on right now. Don't these people know they are part of the problem? That they are standing in the way of God's Plan? HOW DARE THEY!?

That is why I am so grateful for people like you, my dear, sweet, wonderful Ms Rubin. We need more people like you in the world so we can eventually get less people like me in it. Enjoy God's wrath you liberal suckheads!

Sincerely,

The Golden Apple of Eris

Posted by: ashtar377 | February 3, 2011 5:25 PM | Report abuse


The Muslim Brotherhood has already called for war with Israel.

Is that a Bad Thing?
Liberating the West Bank and Gaza from
the savaages' apartheid is a GOOD THING.

The Washington Post's roster of Jewish columnists just got another hack, dumber and more rabid than the rest, which is hard.

Posted by: whistling | February 3, 2011 5:26 PM | Report abuse


So many posters!

And most of them think you're a rabid zionist idiot.

Most of them are right.

Posted by: whistling | February 3, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Among so many bad political commentary pieces in the Post, this one takes the case for shrill silliness. Jennifer Rubin no doubt has her place in the very new stable of Shrieking Extremist Conservatives at the Post...her role is not to think but play the role for of what...absurdity!

Soros's piece was level-headed and brilliant. Thought-provoking. Rubin's use of his comments as a grand assault on logic proves that she is thoroughly trained in Karl Rove marketing school of lying bolding in saying black is white to effective purpose. Rubin is here making a bad case from lies and stupity and she knows it in her heart.

She's new to your paper and inappropriate if not incompetent (I would bet on the last). Get rid of her and outright lobbyist like George Will. These are not commentators but lobbyists. Name me one Liberal on your pages or those of the NYTimes. They do not exist. They are liberal but they are not crack-head, owned and bought Conservative propagandists!

Posted by: walden1 | February 3, 2011 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Soros is right.Human rights are for all people without discrimination in race ,ethnicity or religion. I consider Obama as a hostage of AIPAC and this prevents him of supporting in a decisive and clear way the young people in Egypt who want only freedom from a despot. This is bad for Obama but it is the reality as I see it.

Posted by: mansour112 | February 3, 2011 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Among so many bad political commentary pieces in the Post, this one takes the case for shrill silliness. Jennifer Rubin no doubt has her place in the very new stable of Shrieking Extremist Conservatives at the Post...her role is not to think but play the role for of what...absurdity!

Soros's piece was level-headed and brilliant. Thought-provoking. Rubin's use of his comments as a grand assault on logic proves that she is thoroughly trained in Karl Rove marketing school of lying bolding in saying black is white to effective purpose. Rubin is here making a bad case from lies and stupity and she knows it in her heart.

She's new to your paper and inappropriate if not incompetent (I would bet on the last). Get rid of her and outright lobbyist like George Will. These are not commentators but lobbyists. Name me one Liberal on your pages or those of the NYTimes. They do not exist. They are liberal but they are not crack-head, owned and bought Conservative propagandists!

Posted by: walden1 | February 3, 2011 5:36 PM | Report abuse

the arab(muslims) have been since the world reconized isreal as a country attempted to finish what the nazi lunatics attempted. the religious BS continues. both sides are wrong. this country used nuclear weapons to end the carnage of WW2 and are still criticized by those that have benifitted by our support in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ aid to them. the most generous society ever has been weakend for sharing wealth,technology which the lunatics of the world use to destroy civilized culture in the name of religion. when one is critical in any way for their belief in allah,off with the head. barbarians with oil,which is sold to the infidel. no problem with that. whatever happens when these maniacs decide to use stolen/purchased nuclear capability,they will lose and will never ride a camel again


Posted by: pofinpa | February 3, 2011 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think that Jennifer Rubin's nearly unintelligible ramblings qualify as political commentary worthy of the WashPo website?

Where is Jenny R off base? Oh, where to begin:

-"George Soros's latest dose of vitriol against Israel . . " I didn't see any vitriol in Soros's statement. Soros expressed concern with Isreal's foreign policy. Does that now constitute anti-semitism? Reasonable people may agree or disagree with his view, but calling it vitriol pretty well shows that you are not among reasonable people.

-"In his view, apparently Obama is a pawn of Israel and of American Jews." Not sure how you can extract that out of Soros's statement that "Obama is not beholden to the religious right." Get that? NOT their pawn. Perhaps you need to read a bit more carefully. (Not to mention that the strange alliance between American Jews and the religious right seems to be unraveling somewhat.)

-"Why the slur against AIPAC?" Really, now, you call that a slur? Soros states that he disagrees with their well-known stance, and expresses his view that AIPIC has diminished influence, and that this is a good thing (they are "no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community"). Somehow you think this is a "slur." By your unreasonable standard, your entire column is a "slur" against George Soros. Most reasonable people would say that your column is really just a differing opinion -- an irrational, baseless and misinformed opinion, but still not a "slur." (Although, I suppose if you want to accuse yourself of making slurs against others, that's your right.)


Jenny R makes one statement that I wholeheartedly agree with:

-"This is rubbish." Yes, Jenny, it certainly is. Either you are clueless, or purposefully trying to stir the pot and create controversy where none exists. Either way, this makes your column rubbish not worth reading.

Posted by: tomguy1 | February 3, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

The Muslim Brotherhood has already called for war with Israel.

Is that a Bad Thing?
Liberating the West Bank and Gaza from
the savaages' apartheid is a GOOD THING.

The Washington Post's roster of Jewish columnists just got another hack, dumber and more rabid than the rest, which is hard.

Posted by: whistling
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Pal, you and the Muslim Brotherhood are on the same page. So, operationally, is George Soros. Soros acknowledges that the MB would play a major role in any new Egyptian government and then adds:

"The Muslim Brotherhood's cooperation with Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who is seeking to run for president, is a hopeful sign that it intends to play a constructive role in a democratic political system."

Puhleez! Soros didn't make billions destroying overvalued currencies by being naive and clueless. He knows the weak Baradei is just their cat's paw. He knows that the MB is already calling for war with Israel and for Sharia law in Egypt. He knows the MB's motto is, "We love death more than you love life." He knows they have no taste at all for pluralism and compromise unless it's a temporary tactic. The Prophet himself entered into treaties with his enemies when he was weak, and then slaughtered them when he was strong.

The Islamist Prime Minister of Turkey has stated the Islamist view succinctly, "Democracy is like a tram. When you get where you're going, you step off." Soros understands the tactics of totalitarians well. I suspect he approves of where they're going.

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone really think that Jennifer Rubin's nearly unintelligible ramblings qualify as political commentary worthy of the WashPo website?

Where is Jenny R off base? Oh, where to begin:

-"George Soros's latest dose of vitriol against Israel . . " I didn't see any vitriol in Soros's statement. Soros expressed concern with Isreal's foreign policy. Does that now constitute anti-semitism? Reasonable people may agree or disagree with his view, but calling it vitriol pretty well shows that you are not among reasonable people.

-"In his view, apparently Obama is a pawn of Israel and of American Jews." Not sure how you can extract that out of Soros's statement that "Obama is not beholden to the religious right." Get that? NOT their pawn. Perhaps you need to read a bit more carefully. (Not to mention that the strained alliance between American Jews and the religious right seems to be unraveling somewhat.)

-"Why the slur against AIPAC?" Really, now, you call that a slur? Soros states that he disagrees with their well-known stance, and expresses his view that AIPIC has diminished influence, and that this is a good thing (they are "no longer monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish community"). Somehow you think this is a "slur." By your unreasonable standard, your entire column is a "slur" against George Soros. Most reasonable people would say that your column is really just a differing opinion -- an irrational, baseless and misinformed opinion, but still not a "slur." (Although, I suppose if you want to accuse yourself of making slurs against others, that's your right.)

I'm not saying I agree with everything in George Soros's opinion piece. But really, is it necessary to take that opinion and claim it is a "slur" and demonize the author?

Jenny R makes one statement that I wholeheartedly agree with:

-"This is rubbish." Yes, Jenny, it certainly is. Either you are clueless, or purposefully trying to stir the pot and create controversy where none exists. Either way, this makes your column rubbish not worth reading.

Posted by: tomguy1 | February 3, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: jrav13 | February 3, 2011 11:52 AM

"You do realize blaming Israel is not the same as blaming Jews.."

Of course she does, but if she were to admit that she wouldn't have a case to argue would she?

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 5:53 PM | Report abuse

How on earth did you get from "And SOME U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis themselves." to "U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis"

If you're going to deliberately misquote someone, it's kind of dumb to include the original quote in your article.

Posted by: goaway1 | February 3, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Soros's article is laughable at best coming from a Jew hater who has manipulated currencies and commodities. Jew hater tell the people of Egypt what your position in the commodity of wheat is. Soros has helped fuel the price of wheat which is twice it's historical average. Egypt is one of the top five wheat importers in the world.

Posted by: jjlj | February 3, 2011 5:59 PM | Report abuse

jjij:

I'm not qualified to talk about the "jew hater" part. However as to manipulation of currencies and commodities, that's what businesses do!

You really have an almost child-like grasp of this market and whether Soros is "manipulating it". The wheat farmers of the US do every bit as much hedging in the commodities market as Soros himself does, probably more.

Posted by: johnmarshall5446 | February 3, 2011 6:03 PM | Report abuse

“Those silly Israelis don't even appreciate how much they stand to gain from a new government in Cairo controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood -- you know, the gentle folks who want to tear up the peace treaty with Israel and prepare for war.”

Prepare for war? Is that the new talking point of the day eonii? Perhaps you might explain then, why the Bush Administration were having dialogue with the MB in 2005. Were they collaborating with the MB in preparing for war?

“Those silly Coptic Christians, 10+% of Egypt's population, also don't understand how wonderful the Brotherhood is.”

They do actually, seeing as the MB came out in support of them and offered themselves as human shields at the churches of Coptic Christians, as they celebrated their new year.

“Their pope is supporting Mubarak. Something about a few trivial MB attacks on Christian churches.”

Yes the Coptic Christians are defying Pope Shenouda. Apparently they decided they are Egyptians first.
So do you support the murderous tyrant too eonii? I thought you were in favor of democracy? Apparently not.

“But, never fear, the enlightened Obama administration has decreed that a new Egyptian government must include "non-secular" parties, and we all know that means the Muslim Brotherhood, founder and sponsor of Hamas.”

The Obama administration has realized that Egyptians do support an Islamic influence in their leadership and seeing as it';s their country and their choice, Obama has no choice but to accept it.
“ The official credo of the Muslim Brotherhood is:”
The Muslim Brotherhood has been an ally of choice for the UK, the US and Israel for over 50 years.

You're right not to worry eonii. If the MB didn't mean "dying in the way of Allah" only in the metaphorical spiritual sense, they would have been sacrificing themselves in the practical sense over the last 30 years in which they have participated in the government of Egypt.

You must agree though that it's great to see the Egyptians embrocation the notion that the tree of liberty needs to be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 6:11 PM | Report abuse

I read Soros' article, I liked it (though not in total agreement with everything he wrote), and did not interpret it as a slur or as vitriolic. And I am Jewish.

There is nothing in it that can fairly be taken as "blame the Jews for Egypt." In fact, as Soros writes, Israelis (and Jews worldwide) are in disagreement over the best path to take, and many of us both support the democracy demonstrators and are at the same time apprehensive about what might follow. As Soros himself acknowledged, we are well aware that most revolutions end in tears.

The hysterical and defensive tone of Rubin's post is unwarranted by anything Soros wrote.

Posted by: Meridian1 | February 3, 2011 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Soros, you've got it wrong. The American corpocracy's only interest in the Greater Middle East is marketplace expansion and resource exploitation. America is as much to blame as Israel's intransigence, including her illegal settlements for keeping that area a powder keg and crucible for WWIII.

Gary Brumback
www.democracypowernow.com

Posted by: garybrumback1 | February 3, 2011 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Soros merely repeats what many others have reported - Israelis in general, and the conservatives in particular, are greatly upset and worried by the developments in Egypt and think Mubarak is a better bet than the possible outcomes of change.

In Rubin's version, this constitutes anti-Israel vitriol.

Get this, Rubin. Israel is one country. There are many others. We have broad national interests. There is nothing wrong with questioning whether or interests and goals align with Israel, or Israel's influence on our foreign policy and international relations.

Why this vitriolic attack on Soros? Is Rubin an example of one of those rigid and ideological supporters of Israel?

(Parenthetical note, dear: Soros' remark on US supporters was a generalization, a statement about the central tendency of a group. You can't disprove it by citing anecdotal evidence from a couple of outliers.)

Posted by: j3hess | February 3, 2011 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Right on, Jennifer!

What is Soros' purpose in writing this piece? His op-ed says nothing new or noteworthy about events in Egypt... until the very end when he lets loose the zinger: "Israel is the obstacle." Obviously, this is the intended takeaway from the entire piece.

His point is obvious: Israeli fears are somehow causing the Obama administration to take too cautious an approach.

He is wrong on both counts!!! First, what evidence does he have that Obama's approach is being dictated by Israel? None. This administration, if it has any sense, sees Soros as a money man, not a policy adivsor. Second, Obama's cautious approach is the right one, since IT IS NOT FOR US TO DECIDE EVENTS IN EGYPPT.

Of course, if you have an ego the size of Soros' you think that you have the right to dictate events in any and every corner of the globe.

Posted by: Ezekiel22 | February 3, 2011 6:24 PM | Report abuse

“This is rubbish. Israel may be concerned about the turmoil and fear a post-Mubarak Egypt, but there's no evidence that is the cause of Obama's inertness”

Really Jennifer? I suppose the fact that Obama backed away from his earlier condemnation of Mubarak after Netenyahu sent out the order to be less critical fo Mubarak is just a coincidence.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

“And, moreover, what evidence is there that "U.S. supporters of Israel are more rigid and ideological than Israelis"?”

Seriously Jennifer, are you deliberately playing dumb? It's no secret that APIAC is opposed to a 2 state solution and has always been to the right of Israel.

“In fact, the exact opposite is true, as pointed out by figures as ideologically diverse as Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic and Elliott Abrams, former deputy national security adviser to George W. Bush .”

That's hardly an argument Jennifer. What is that supposed to prove? Jeffrey Goldberg is a “journalist” and the convicted fellon, Elliott Abrams, was employed by the George W. Bush to held create Middle East policy. If anything, this supports the argument that Israeli supporters in the US are more extreme than Israel.

Seriously Jennifer, you've written some appalling articles, but this is among your worst.

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 6:29 PM | Report abuse

“First, what evidence does he have that Obama's approach is being dictated by Israel? None.”

On the contrary, Obama backed away from his earlier condemnation of Mubarak after Netenyahu sent out the order to be less critical of Mubarak.

Secondly, State Department spokesman P J Crowley stated that while democracy in Tunisia was a good idea, democracy in Egypt was not as desirable because of....Israel.

What more evidence does one need?

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"Puhleez! Soros didn't make billions destroying overvalued currencies by being naive and clueless. He knows the weak Baradei is just their cat's paw."

Eonoii, if you want to continue to look like a fool keep this up. The MB has formally renounced terrorism and violence.

"He knows that the MB is already calling for war with Israel and for Sharia law in Egypt."

Please provide a link to a quote from the MB that includes calling for war with Israel.

"The Prophet himself entered into treaties with his enemies when he was weak, and then slaughtered them when he was strong."

Yes, just like Israel entering into ceasefires and then breaking them.

"The Islamist Prime Minister of Turkey has stated the Islamist view succinctly, "Democracy is like a tram. When you get where you're going, you step off." "

That's a lie eonii. Erdogan never presented this as an Islamist view.

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Superbly put rosenbergerin,

“A jew who wants to create a shadow world government to manipulate and exploit the worlds' economies and resources?”

Yes, it's comical that Jennifer would defend Beck's reference to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to attack a Jewish man.

Posted by: Shingo1 | February 3, 2011 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Did Glenn Beck ghostwrite this column? This is a new low in dishonest journalism for Rubin. She deliberately distorts Soros. He nowhere blames Jews for Egypt. He nowhere says that Obama is a pawn of the Israel lobby. He says that AIPAC is not monolithic or the sole representative of the Jewish people. Rubin turns around and calls this a "slur". Rubin confuses not merely the state of Israel but its present government with "the Jews." As a Jew I find this offensive. Shame on you, Ms. Rubin.

Didn't the Post already have enough intellectually dishonest right-wing columnists with Will, Theissen, Gerson, Samuelson, and Lane? Is it really that hard to find a journalist on the right who doesn't need to lie to make a point?

Posted by: turningfool | February 3, 2011 7:05 PM | Report abuse

There wouldn't be an "Israeli lobby cannard" if people like Jennifer Rubin didn't keep proving that it exists.

Posted by: leilaash | February 3, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Wow, when are you people going to wake up and see that George Soros is neither a fan of the Jewish people or its government! For those of you spouting the praises of George Soros, funny how he is all about "social justice" but he's not willing to give any of his actual money to help anyone. Before you come back with, "He has given billions...blah blah blah", you better research on WHO he has given billions to! You'll find that he has only given the money back to his own organizations or the ones he has helped establish. These organizations do nothing but further his interest in a One World Order/Government! GEEZ! For all of you who are so anti-America....you are free to leave! You want so much what George Soros is seeking? Please, he's a business man whose only interests are those that bring about more money and more power to HIM! For those of you doing the work of this man....how does it feel to be a PUPPET!?! Better make sure you have plenty of puppet string...you are going to need it!

Not fooled by "THE MAN"!

Posted by: camp4181 | February 3, 2011 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Shingo, I appreciate your thoughtfulness in annotating my post, but most of your assertions are either dubious or not on point. Also, your sarcastic ad hominems don't strengthen your argument, if there is one.

You are correct, however, about Bush and other western leaders being willing to deal with the Brotherhood and their front organizations such as CAIR. Obama invited the MB to attend his Cairo speech, and now the State Department is saying the MB needs to be part of an Egyptian government.

A refusal to take seriously the hateful utterances of our self-proclaimed enemies like the MB is a familiar western trait. Being rational, we can't believe they actually mean their deranged scapegoating and fantasies of conquest. The disbelieving reaction to the rise of Hitler is an obvious example. The MB's rhetoric is similar to Hitler's, but some want to pretend they've decided to play nice.

Posted by: eoniii | February 3, 2011 7:12 PM | Report abuse

You aren't even Israeli. It's pretty transparent to most people how bizarre it is for you to so ferociously defend another country. Seems like you have more loyalty to Israel than the US. Why not immigrate?

Also, I detected zero vitriol from Soros. There are no facts in this short article. You just "say stuff," which alas does not make it true.

I do wonder if AIPAC paid you. Try being a real journalist

Posted by: jazzis779 | February 3, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

To Shingo1

"Please provide a link to a quote from the MB that includes calling for war with Israel."

I direct you to Hamas Covenant of 1988. (In case you were and are wondering what Hamas has to do with the MB here is just a sample of how the Covenant reads: The Islamic Resistance Movement is one of the wings of Moslem Brotherhood in Palestine. Moslem Brotherhood Movement is a universal organization which constitutes the largest Islamic movement in modern times. It is characterised by its deep understanding, accurate comprehension and its complete embrace of all Islamic concepts of all aspects of life, culture, creed, politics, economics, education, society, justice and judgement, the spreading of Islam, education, art, information, science of the occult and conversion to Islam.)

Here is your link to the Covenant!
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

Enjoy!

Posted by: camp4181 | February 3, 2011 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Here is your link to the Covenant!
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp Enjoy! Posted by: camp4181
-------

You'd best do some more homework. Hamas survived in Gaza because the Israelis allowed it. They believed it to be an alternative to PLO's Fatah and would divide the Palestinians. Then, it bit them in the keister because it expanded.

And yes, it's roots are in the MB.

Posted by: mooncusser | February 3, 2011 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, what are you going to say about a POS who still proclaims that the greatest days of his life was his youth when he was helping Nazis evict Jews from their towns and homes.

But not to worry, he is a "hero" of the Left, just like Stalin, Mao, and Castro.

Leftists have a special adoration and love for mass murdering thugs who turn on their own countrymen.

Soros is small change to the other genocidial maniacs that the Left idolizes.

It is always the Jew's fault. It not the Jews then it is America's.

Posted by: LogicalSC | February 3, 2011 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Jennifer Rubin, I'd love for you to focus on the character particularly the values of the specimen by the name G. Soros. Start with his role of supporting the deportation of Jews during World War II and then how he caused the currency collapse of countries like Thailand. This man needs to be put through some public relations anguish here on earth, as a precursor to him spending eternity in hell. Yet he tries to gain some sense of self-redemption by donating to groups that promote fringe social causes in order to distract from the affects of globalization and illegal immigration on working class people in the United States.

Posted by: AD11 | February 3, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Where does the Post come up with the right wing loons it now publishes regularly? I thought Krauthammer was the stupidest man in America until Michael Gerson began to appear. Then Thiessen took over the mantle for a while. Now we have Ms. Rubin, who is in the forefront of conservative insistence on misconstruing, misreading, and generally totally misunderstanding any idea or argument advanced by a centrist or liberal person, including the Founding Fathers. Please, WaPo, I know you have to have some kind of balance, but can't you at least find some "conservative" who could pass the reading comprehension section of the SATs?

Posted by: jerryo2 | February 3, 2011 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Where does the Post come up with the right wing loons it now publishes regularly? I thought Krauthammer was the stupidest man in America until Michael Gerson began to appear. Then Thiessen took over the mantle for a while. Now we have Ms. Rubin, who is in the forefront of conservative insistence on misconstruing, misreading, and generally totally misunderstanding any idea or argument advanced by a centrist or liberal person, including the Founding Fathers. Please, WaPo, I know you have to have some kind of balance, but can't you at least find some "conservative" who could pass the reading comprehension section of the SATs?

Posted by: jerryo2 | February 3, 2011 7:47 PM | Report abuse

This screed is the equivalent of an AIPAC rebuttal / hit piece.

I did some quick research on the author and "right turn"

"American exceptionalism"
"a secure and thriving Jewish state - Nearly all wisdom is found in the Godfather movies (no, not Part 3!) and the Torah"

in other words, just more right wing neo-con pro-likud talking points and propaganda.

NEXT!!

Posted by: daveque | February 3, 2011 8:04 PM | Report abuse

To say that Israel is a stumbling block is not the same as "blaming the Jews." Is there any question that Israel values Mubarak? Is there any question that, with the attacks on peaceful demonstrators and international media, he has lost legitimacy? Is there any question that Obama can no longer morally support Mubarak?

What I question is whether Rubin is capable of rational thought. This article is a nasty little smear job. I would recommend that Rubin look into exactly who her fellow travellers are: Glenn Beck and his ilk.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/feb/03/middle-east-unrest-glenn-beck?INTCMP=SRCH

Posted by: scientist1 | February 3, 2011 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Good job, Ms Rubin.

You brought out all the anti-semite Jew hating Leftists.

At least there might be ONE who reads the ignorant and ugly rants against Jews who might find their way out of the morass.

But I would not hold my breath, these are the same Leftists nuts who still get a hard one when they think about Mao, Lenin, Stalin and Castro, even after it has been proven they murdered millions upon millions of their own citizens in the name of their "grand Marxist revolution".

Not much morality to reach in these people.

Posted by: LogicalSC | February 3, 2011 8:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, obviously you have all the rights to be critical of George Soros, however I wonder how many of you would use your personal wealth to promote democracy all over the world. I think most of you would rather invest in a new car or a bigger house.

Posted by: kissimre | February 3, 2011 8:31 PM | Report abuse

To everyone who disagrees with my opinion: You are an anti-semite.

Yeah. Chew on that.

Posted by: ashtar377 | February 3, 2011 9:00 PM | Report abuse

I am not sure if Miss Rubinstein has actually read George Soros's editorial. The straw man that she has set up does not reflect what Soros actually said.

Posted by: Hellmut | February 3, 2011 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Earlier today, investors increased bets that oil prices will likely increase as much as $250 a barrel on concern the unrest in Egypt will shut down the flow of oil through the Suez Canal and spread to Saudi Arabia.

Soros is manipulating Egypt by manipulating manchurian candidate, Obama. He is set to make a killing on the Oil Market while the world burns.

The tip off should be ElBaradei’s presence on the Board of Trustees of the Zbigniew Brzezinski/George Soros globalist think-tank, the International Crisis Group.

Mohamed ElBaradei, then literally sitting on the International Crisis Group’s Board of Trustees with the likes of George Soros, would not only be a trusted candidate to sow instability throughout Egypt, but would make an equally trustworthy leader of a pliable proxy regime to turn against Iran, Russia, and China. An ElBaradei controlled Egypt could equally be turned against disruptive members of the other globalist pet project Egypt is conveniently positioned to deal with, the African Union. And last but not least, Egypt controls the Suez Canal. Greater control over Egypt means greater control over the passage of freight through the canal.
ElBaradei and the Muslim Brotherhood, at the behest of the globalists, may indeed close down the Suez Canal, as some observers fear, and send the price of oil skyrocketing into outer space as long predicted by Lindsey Williams and others.

Soros manipulated the "Jewish Funds for Justice Director to work his tail off convincing 400 Rabbis who do not have time to watch Glenn Beck to sign an ad, based upon hearsay. Soros PAID FOR THE AD.
HOW'S THAT EMBODIMENT OF JUDAISM, SOROS, THE ATHIEST, WORKIN' OUT FOR YA? DO YOU REALIZE YOU, THE SUPPORTERS OF ISRAEL HAVE BEEN DEFAMED by inference, IN THIS ARTICLE, in return for the witchhunt you participated in?

Goodness, you have Bacon and eggs all over your faces...fooled again Rabbis!!

"I hope Soros fails"

Posted by: furtiveadmirer | February 4, 2011 5:11 AM | Report abuse

"Good job, Ms Rubin.

You brought out all the anti-semite Jew hating Leftists.

At least there might be ONE who reads the ignorant and ugly rants against Jews who might find their way out of the morass."

The dual loyalty canard, the Nazi lie, conspiracy theory about Jews controlling the US/world. It's hard to feel anything but sadness at the Cesspool of comments here. It also points to a central problem that Jews have in combating Anti-Semetisim, no matter how cogent your argument, or just your cause, the Jew haters can just drown you out by their sheer numbers and the fecundity of their posts that their obsessive hatred drives them to make.

Posted by: *JRapp | February 4, 2011 7:16 AM | Report abuse

THE FACT IS THAT MOST LIBERAL JEWS ARE SO ASSIMILATED AND ANTI ISRAEL, AND ALWAYS DEFEND THE MUSLIM EXTREMIST AND BLAME ISRAEL FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD, LOOK AROUND IN THE MEDIA AND ON THE INTERNET, THE ONLY FRIENDS ISRAEL HAS ARE THE CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS, MOST LIBERALS ARE VERY ANTI ISRAEL.
GOD BLESSES ALL THESES CONSERVATIVES ON FOX NEWS FOR DEFENDING THE JEWSIH PEOPLE. SOROS IS AN ANTI SEMITE AND HE DESERVES THE CRITISIAM, he is a scum bag and assimilated Jew that couldn’t care less about the Jewish people, why are liberals so obsessed with Israel human tights violations when the Muslim world has the worst human rights violations the answer is because they hate Jews and they are anti Semitic.

Posted by: muti | February 4, 2011 3:03 PM | Report abuse


I am far from being a Zionist, but any Jew with open eyes could see that the liberal world is obsessed with critizisizing israel and the double standard vis a vis israel is appalling, amongst liberals just surf the internet about any article on israel and u will find millions of Americans writing comments blaming everything on the Jews and israel. the biggest joke is that these liberal Jew haters claim they love Jews they are just always obsessed with israel because they hate the occupation what a big joke and lie, they couldn’t care less about the Palestinians, are these same people calling for boycotts against all the Muslim countries that have the worst human rights? The answer is no they are only obsessed with the Jews because they are anti semitic.
Proud orthodox non Zionist Jew that cares about the Jewish people


Posted by: muti | February 4, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

It sounded to me like Soros is talking more about right wing supporters of Israel, who are mainly fundamentalist Christians, as well as the more conservative Jewish supporters of Israel, represented by AIPAC. The quote from Soros talks only about "some supporters" of Israel, and recognizes that there is a spectrum of Jewish opinion, much of which would probably welcome the spread of freedom and democracy in the Arab world. But both Israel as well as the entire freedom-loving community also have good reason to worry about the danger of this brewing Egyptian revolution turning in the same direction that the Iranian revolution turned in 1979. I think Americans are virtually united on this, including Jews and including liberals and conservatives. So it doesn't seem constructive to try to label Soros anti-Israel, or to try to foment outrage against him. It would be more constructive to try to help everyone understand that Americans of all ideological persuasions have an interest in seeing Egypt make a peaceful transition to a more free, democratic society, and one that is also respectful of peace with Israel.

http://www.hopeandchange.net

Posted by: joemarkowitz | February 4, 2011 3:05 PM | Report abuse

jrapp u are 100% right its scary to be a Jew in today’s age and open the internet and look at all these liberal anti Semites spewing their hatred against israel and the Jewish people, I am waiting for the day when all these liberal Jews will wake up and realize that all these liberal anti Semites are not just anti israel they are anti Semitic look at their comments on the internet they blame the Jews for everything that goes wrong on this world ,its amazing how these liberal Jewish groups are defending scum bags like liberal Soros.

Posted by: muti | February 4, 2011 3:17 PM | Report abuse

mr markowits u seem to be on of these assimilated liberal jews, that care more about librelasm then they care about israel and the jewish people, no wonder u think that mr soros loves israel

Posted by: muti | February 4, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Boy, this is one tired old device that never seems to lose its appeal to some dissemblers -- equating lack of support for policies of the Israeli government with antisemitism. Thanks for insulting the intelligence of your readers, Ms. Rubin. Yeah, we really can't see how bogus that tactic is, no matter how many times it's used. Shame on you.

Posted by: mistere1 | February 5, 2011 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Boy, this is one tired old device that never seems to lose its appeal to some dissemblers -- equating lack of support for policies of the Israeli government with antisemitism. Thanks for insulting the intelligence of your readers, Ms. Rubin. Yeah, we really can't see how bogus that tactic is, no matter how many times it's used. Shame on you, you dishonest, self-righteous bigot.

Posted by: mistere1 | February 5, 2011 12:57 AM | Report abuse

"If you don't support the Israeli government, you're not a real Jew." Does that formula seems vaguely familiar? It should, if you've lived in the USA for the past twenty years. Just substitute a couple of terms and you'll see that the mentality behind the rhetoric is the same: "If you don't support the US government, you're not a real American." More familiar now?

Posted by: mistere1 | February 5, 2011 1:49 AM | Report abuse

"If you don't support the Israeli government, you're not a real Jew." Does that formula seem vaguely familiar? It should, if you've lived in the USA for the past twenty years. Just substitute a couple of terms and you'll see that the mentality behind the rhetoric is the same: "If you don't support the US government, you're not a real American." More familiar now?

Posted by: mistere1 | February 5, 2011 1:57 AM | Report abuse

It's long past time that the U.S. cut itself loose from Israel. After 60 years, all we have to show for supporting our "friends" in Tel Aviv is wasted billions, and the distrust of the world.

Israel shed long ago any claims it might have had to a special moral status. Now it's no better than the last Afrikaaners leeching off their ancestors' theft in South Africa. Let Israel solve its own self-inflicted problems -- alone, **without** American dollars or arms.

Posted by: SGlover910 | February 5, 2011 3:41 PM | Report abuse

pcow

So interesting, Israel and America also very anxious for the violence of Egypt. I think if Egypt create Islamic Socialism, they thinking that it will be harmful for those country. But I think it is needed for Egypt like Saudi Arabia.

http://bit.ly/ePS6Rq

Go to the link and see exclusive video footage.

Posted by: webcontent2011 | February 6, 2011 4:25 AM | Report abuse

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