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Posted at 9:17 AM ET, 02/28/2011

Who's the hooligan?

By Jennifer Rubin

Dana Milbank on Sunday dubbed Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) a "hooligan." He wrote:

I don't budge," Walker promised the fake Koch. He explained that he would increase pressure on state workers by threatening thousands of them with layoffs. He considered planting instigators in the crowd, he said, and he might offer to talk to Democrats -- but only as a ruse to get them to return. "I'm not negotiating," he said.

These are not the words of a statesman. These are the words of a hooligan.

This is a particularly bizarre choice of invective given the circumstances. A hooligan is "a tough and aggressive or violent youth." That is an apt phrase (aside from the age factor) of the labor protesters and their Democratic allies. It was they, not Walker, who used Nazi imagery so offensive that the National Democratic Jewish Council was forced to condemn it. It was they, not Walker, who threatened lawmakers in their homes. It was they, not Walker, who were responsible for this scene:

Democrats erupted after the vote, throwing papers and what appeared to be a drink in the air. They denounced the move to cut off debate, questioning for the second time in the night whether the proper procedure had been followed.

"Shame! Shame! Shame!" Democrats shouted in the faces of Republicans as the GOP lawmakers quietly filed off the floor and a police officer stood between opposing lawmakers.

And it was the union protesters, not Walker, who came up with phony doctor's notes to rip off the state by getting sick pay to which they were not entitled.

Walker has remained eerily calm and stalwart throughout. That makes him not a hooligan but the Democrats' and their Big Labor patrons' worst nightmare.

What is the evidence of "hooliganism" that Dana comes up with? He declares:

It takes some creativity to liken the air traffic controllers to Wisconsin's public workers, who are not on strike and have offered concessions. It takes even more creativity to credit the firing of the controllers (rather than, say, Reagan's military buildup) for the fall of the Berlin Wall. And it takes gall for Walker to claim the mantle of Reagan, who compromised with Democrats and Soviets alike.

Actually, it takes creativity to in effect stage a strike (a sickout) without the risk of being fired. And it takes creativity for the left to resurrect Reagan as the grand compromiser.

But Dana's name-calling is emblematic of the increasingly desperate tone of the left. Weeks ago liberal elites were finger-wagging about incivility; now they ignore their own side's extra-legal obstruction and project that behavior onto their opponent. Is this really the best the left can do?

By Jennifer Rubin  | February 28, 2011; 9:17 AM ET
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Rubin is so predictable. Walker ransacks everything is sight in his attempt to push the corporate agenda, and Rubin decries labor for protesting with "extra-legal obstruction." Walker reveals in the punk phone call the lengths to which he is willing to go to achieve the Koch Brothers'goals, and Rubin decries union protesters "who came up with phony doctor's notes to rip off the state by getting sick pay to which they were not entitled." So predictable.

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Jennifer is very much about false equivalence and guilt by association.

By all reports the protests were calm, respectful and peaceful, but Jennifer does exactly what she complains the left does, takes the actions of a few on the fringe, and tars everyone with it to deligitimize any grievance the protestors may have had.

She's just part of a class of elitists who are perpetually "offended and shocked" by behavior, provided someone on the other side from them ideologically is engaging in it.

Posted by: mustangs79 | February 28, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The lefties just cannot win arguments on the merits. They are reduced to ad hominem attacks, buffoonery and misdirection (e.g. the orchestrated attacks on the Kock brothers). Their hypocrisy is there for all to see. And thanks to the alternative media, we do see it!!

Posted by: DocC1 | February 28, 2011 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The bloated fat cat public service unions now realize that their power has eclipsed but they will not go quietly. They will use the same desperate tactics they have always used to drive the State of Wisconsin deeper into debt.
And that is the most salient point.
The State of Wisconsin isn't just broke, it is deeply in debt as a direct result of state employee union blackmail.
The People of the State of Wisconsin are going to win this battle, the Governor knows this, the People know this, and although they are loathe to admit it, even the unions know this.
It's all a matter of time, and it will be sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Beniyyar | February 28, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

People like Milbank need to go live in one of the places they write about. They need to attend a school board meeting and a council meeting and they need to go to the holiday parties and they need to read the local papers. It would improve their ability to caricature, at the minimum. In the best case, they would wake up.

It mystifies me why MSM corporations like the Post are disinterested in the very tools and techniques that make companies like Apple and Wal-Mart successful: employing people who actually know what they are talking about. Adjudging Wisconsin from NW DC is about as sensible as writing restaurant reviews for DC -- from Madison, Wisc. Why is this so hard to figure out, again?

Posted by: IowaHawkeye | February 28, 2011 10:16 AM | Report abuse

The term "hooligan" conjures up an image of beer-soaked fury at an Arsenal-Tottenham Hotspur match. Or an AFSCME member at a Providence rally growling at a videographer "I'll %^*# you in the ^&*, you [homosexual]."

Posted by: ScientificSocialist | February 28, 2011 10:24 AM | Report abuse

And it takes gall for Walker to claim the mantle of Reagan, who compromised with Democrats and Soviets alike

While Tip went to the Soviets and said ignore him, we can work together.....LOLOL

B4 or after PATCO? Compromised w/the Soviets? B4 or after the SS-20s went in Germany?

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall"

"Evil Empire"

is compromise?

Too many drugs in their boomer youth. Mind's getting really hazy.

Posted by: gopthestupidparty | February 28, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

By all reports the protests were calm, respectful and peaceful

"All reports," like from the MSM?

Gee, I wonder why?


Other than those incidents where people were getting punched.

Posted by: gopthestupidparty | February 28, 2011 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Goodness, Jennifer Rubin spends a lot of time discussing an issue she's already repeatedly declared victory on.

By her own statements, Walker has achieved total victory. Why all this discussion?

Posted by: member8 | February 28, 2011 10:42 AM | Report abuse

There is some desperation, to be sure because to some extent the party is coming to an end - at least the beluga-Crystal portion of it. Still, while Dear Leader is in the White House good bear and burgers will continue to be served and the urgency to evict him in 2012 is growing more pressing.

Here in Zurich people are paying attention and the Swiss, well known for being well behaved (in certain respects - the crime rate is super low even though you can go hours without seeing a cop) are decidedly taking the side of the Governor.

Posted by: cavalier4 | February 28, 2011 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"Here in Zurich people are paying attention and the Swiss, well known for being well behaved (in certain respects - the crime rate is super low even though you can go hours without seeing a cop) are decidedly taking the side of the Governor."

The biggest banks in the world are siding with money over people! No way, dude!

Posted by: member8 | February 28, 2011 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Confronted with more fact and common sense by Rubin, WaPo readers react predictably in the comments section. It's getting tired and old, lefties.

You've lost. You've lost big. A good commander knows when to make a tactical retreat when he's been outmaneuvered and risks total annihilation.

Posted by: TheLastBrainLeft | February 28, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

The public sector unions are thugs out to fleece the taxpayers with the help of corrupt democrats.

It's time to purge these thugs from our payrolls.

Posted by: robtr | February 28, 2011 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Reagan noted for compromise with the Soviet Union? Some compromise, if one party ends up stone dead afterwards. That's usually called victory,not compromise.

Gov. Walker would achieve far more than his current modest goals if he compromised with the Big Union industry the same way - the unions would go out on the rubbish heap of history, right on top of the Soviets.

Sounds good to me.

Posted by: sauer38h | February 28, 2011 12:52 PM | Report abuse

*Replacing Dave Weigel with Jennifer Rubin* - FTW!

Keep at it, JR. Making Lefty heads erupt in reflexive bursts of typical red-faced anger is the best thing ever.

Posted by: cartmaneric | February 28, 2011 12:57 PM | Report abuse

What's really predictable is the lefty foot soldiers showing up ...

Pray tell, who is the evil employer these public employee unions are protecting their members against? Oh yeah - that would be the "taxpayers."

There is no - zero, nada, none - justification for the existence of public employee unions.

Posted by: g8trbd57 | February 28, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, more commenters ranting about the Koch bros. again. The obsession with these guys is akin to BDS or PDS. It's like some Pavlov thing -- just imply some non-liberal thought or action and they start ranting "Koch!"

Never mind the hilarity of union folks complaining about Koch's 40k donation to Walker, when their own unions give millions to pols. I guess we're not supposed to think about things like that.

Posted by: rasqual | February 28, 2011 1:22 PM | Report abuse

The quid pro quo between the unions and Democrat Party has to be addressed, a union paying off a major party and then being reimbursed by pay raises and perks totaling in the million if not billions should be a crime if it isn't already. Major crimes against the taxpayer, the cities and counties, states and the Country have to stop and now the 'doctors' are baring false witness for them, this is a major conspiracy to defraud. First the Pigford Ripoff an now the conspiracy between the unions, doctors and Democrats, its turned into a gangster regime in less than a decade.

Posted by: rnord | February 28, 2011 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Granted hooligan was not the best choice of words; "bully" would have been more fitting.

I notice that you are not challenging the criticism of Walker's deriding a Democratic lawmaker for being "Pragmatic" and "wanting to get things done".

Regan WAS know for his willingness to compromise to an extent. The revisionist picture of Regan that the Right has been exposing is not accurate.

The bottom line is that Walker is a bully and a would-be dictator. No good can come from "leadership" like his.

Posted by: koygdb | February 28, 2011 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Enough LIES by the lame stream media. We've have the public employees and union thugs on camera over and over again behaving like the thugs they are.

The American People are going to give public unions and their entitled membership a good asskicking now, tomorrow and in the future.

2012 is going to be another DISASTER for the Socialist Democrats and their Union Goons.

Posted by: crypticguise | February 28, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Any time a commenter mentions the Koch brothers you can ignore their opinion as having no rational basis. And I'm including New York Times reporters in this group. The amounts Goldman Sachs and big Unions give to Democrats are many orders of magnitude bigger than what the Kochs have donated.

Posted by: Peejay | February 28, 2011 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of hooligans, how about Democratic state Rep. Gordon Hintz of Wisconsin, who turned to a fellow legislator, GOP Rep. Michelle Litjens, after a budget vote Friday and told her: "You are F***king dead!"
http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/117064153.html
You probably won't read about that in a Dana Milbanks column.

Posted by: dakotadoug83 | February 28, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Yes, it was only a few weeks ago, when Jared Laughner went on a shooting rampage that the Left was leaping about in glee shouting: See?! See?! I TOLD you the excessive rhetoric of the Right would lead to violence. It almost seemed like they were delighted by the shooting.

But of course, those pesky facts then came out proving Laughtner was apolitical and has many far Left fantasies as far Right ones.

And now in WI we have rhetoric, physical activity, and hysteria that falls just short...by inches....of mass violence. All conducted by the Left, and conducted intentionally. If there is violence, I'll be waiting to see the NY Times, Wapo, HuffPo and DailyKos throw a hissy fit in condemning the Leftists. But...I won't hold my breath waiting...

Posted by: JohnR22 | February 28, 2011 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Let me first say, I am liberal and not a Republican. This isnt political for me. I have seen first hand how unions work both in construction and the casino industry - these institutions are absolutely horrible to be associated with for both employer and employees. If the majority of Americans knew what went on behind close doors (filthy, threatening language.. ..dirty, undermining lies, intimidation of members, lazy workers negotiating for 3 day work weeks, over the top benefits and ridiculous demands they call "collective bargaining") these unscrupulous, uneducated, overpaid goons would be on the street with no job at all. Unions are destroying the work place moral and contributing to the loss of jobs in America. When will someone expose these thugs for what they are? I have no desire to be defined by trashy, greedy unions and proud that I have always "earned" my pay and respect. Why do these union industries feel such a sense of entitlemen t? WAKE UP!! We are no longer living in the 1930s.

Posted by: soygirl | February 28, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Let me first say, I am liberal and not a Republican. This isnt political for me. I have seen first hand how unions work both in construction and the casino industry - these institutions are absolutely horrible to be associated with for both employer and employees. If the majority of Americans knew what went on behind close doors (filthy, threatening language.. ..dirty, undermining lies, intimidation of members, lazy workers negotiating for 3 day work weeks, over the top benefits and ridiculous demands they call "collective bargaining") these unscrupulous, uneducated, overpaid goons would be on the street with no job at all. Unions are destroying the work place moral and contributing to the loss of jobs in America. When will someone expose these thugs for what they are? I have no desire to be defined by trashy, greedy unions and proud that I have always "earned" my pay and respect. Why do these union industries feel such a sense of entitlemen t? WAKE UP!! We are no longer living in the 1930s.

Posted by: soygirl | February 28, 2011 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"I can hire half the working class to kill the other half."
- Jay Gould

That's why we need unions.

Posted by: member8 | February 28, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan says being in a union is a basic right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orwN4WKhriw

Posted by: member8 | February 28, 2011 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan says being in a union is a basic right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orwN4WKhriw

Posted by: member8
-------------------
Listen again. Reagan is referring only to "trade unions" - private sector unions, not public. Private employee unions negotiate with employers who have the motive (and obligation) to keep wages and benefits in line with the financial condition of their business and their competitors. Even the private union members have the motive to keep their employer competitive so that they can keep their jobs.

None of these factors are present when a public union negotiates their contract with representatives of the government. The government does not have any of the motives that require a private employer to moderate labor costs. It's not their money! They have no direct competitors and they're elected with the very firm support of the public unions they're supposedly negotiating against - a clear conflict of interest.

It leads to the corrupt dynamic that lies at the heart of the dispute in Wisconsin: public sector unions help elect the negotiators for the "other" side. These politicians reward the unions with increased spending on wages, benefits and programs that use public employees. The unions give this money -- our money! -- back to the politicians, etc.

It's a protection/money laundering scheme that would make the Sopranos proud.

That's why both FDR and George Meany (the first President of the AFL-CIO) were opposed to public unions.

I have yet to see a single comment on this blog from a supporter of the Wisconsin unions address these issues and make the case why public unions should be treated like the "trade unions" Reagan is talking about.

Posted by: paco33 | February 28, 2011 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Paco33 posted: Reagan is referring only to "trade unions" - private sector unions, not public. Private employee unions negotiate with employers who have the motive (and obligation) to keep wages and benefits in line with the financial condition of their business and their competitors.
________

This purported distinction is completely bogus.

The right to collective bargaining is, of course, essential in the private sector for a multitude of reasons. But it is likewise essential in the public labor sector for reasons that, in some cases, are even more compelling. Wisconsin is a conspicuous example: Scott Walker and other politicians aligned with business interests have not only secured the power of the employer in the employer-employee relationship, but it is backed by the entire power of government, unconstrained by even the modest limitations that might otherwise influence an employer in the private sector. Paco33’s “distinction” does not survive even cursory scrutiny.

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 5:29 PM | Report abuse

There is a bottom line here: 1) Public service unions corrupt the political process, in effect, bribing public servants to pay them too much, supervise them too little, and fire them only for horrible dereliction and crimes proven by the absurd standard that is proof beyond a reasonable doubt and by a trial of other workers - that is a horrific way to run an organization and in this case it's the school children who suffer permanent damage; 2) Even if it's something theoretically workable, public sector unions have abused their privileges and it won't stop until the incentive structure politically is altered. And you know it. In fact, the change in the discourse of late has been that Democrats admit this system is horrible on every level, but it is the only way they can raise campaign funds because they stopped being effective advocates for the poor and otherwise vulnerable on November 22, 1963. Klein and Krugman have basically conceded this.

Posted by: Commenting1 | February 28, 2011 6:00 PM | Report abuse

You libs have lost the argument here ... it will just take some time for you to accept it ... the five stages perhaps ??? ... maybe your analyst ...

Posted by: cunn9305 | February 28, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

J_B_A: Here's a question I'm sure you'll dodge: you say the "right" to collective bargaining is essential in the public sector for "reasons that, in some cases, are even more compelling" than for the private sector. If this is so, why are federal employees denied such a basic, essential right? The Obama administration overseas a public workforce of up to 2 million that does not have the "right" to collective bargaining. He has never made giving them this ability an issue, nor did Clinton or Carter.

So, there's FDR, George Meany, Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter who believe that the distinction between private and public unions is anything but bogus and who obviously thought treating them differently is a policy that "survives cursory scrutiny". Who can you point to for supporting your view? Besides Paul Krugman.

Posted by: paco33 | February 28, 2011 6:58 PM | Report abuse

The Koch's donated about $43,000 to Scott Walker's campaign. Walker raised more than $2.8 million. If that amount was enough to "buy" Walker and is the primary reason for his bill to limit collective bargaining for public employees - according to the left - how do we characterize the fact that the 14 Dem senators who have fled the state to prevent a vote on the bill get 20% of their collective donations from public employees? I'm not great at math but I'm pretty sure the Koch's contribution to Walker is less than 20%.

Posted by: paco33 | February 28, 2011 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of hooligans, the hacker collective Anonymous seized Americans For Prosperity's domain today, and issued this statement:

"Dear Citizens of the United States of America,

It has come to our attention that the brothers, David and Charles Koch--the billionaire owners of Koch Industries--have long attempted to usurp American Democracy. Their actions to undermine the legitimate political process in Wisconsin are the final straw. Starting today we fight back.

Koch Industries, and oligarchs like them, have most recently started to manipulate the political agenda in Wisconsin. Governor Walker's union-busting budget plan contains a clause that went nearly un-noticed. This clause would allow the sale of publicly owned utility plants in Wisconsin to private parties (specifically, Koch Industries) at any price, no matter how low, without a public bidding process. The Koch's have helped to fuel the unrest in Wisconsin and the drive behind the bill to eliminate the collective bargaining power of unions in a bid to gain a monopoly over the state's power supplies.

The Koch brothers have made a science of fabricating 'grassroots' organizations and advertising campaigns to support them in an attempt to sway voters based on their falsehoods. Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth and Citizens United are just a few of these organizations. In a world where corporate money has become the lifeblood of political influence, the labor unions are one of the few ways citizens have to fight against corporate greed. Anonymous cannot ignore the plight of the citizen-workers of Wisconsin, or the opportunity to fight for the people in America's broken political system. For these reasons, we feel that the Koch brothers threaten the United States democratic system and, by extension, all freedom-loving individuals everywhere. As such, we have no choice but to spread the word of the Koch brothers' political manipulation, their single-minded intent and the insidious truth of their actions in Wisconsin, for all to witness.

Anonymous hears the voice of the downtrodden American people, whose rights and liberties are being systematically removed one by one, even when their own government refuses to listen or worse - is complicit in these attacks. We are actively seeking vulnerabilities, but in the mean time we are calling for all supporters of true Democracy, and Freedom of The People, to boycott all Koch Industries' paper products. We welcome unions across the globe to join us in this boycott to show that you will not allow big business to dictate your freedom."

Posted by: member8 | February 28, 2011 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I gave exactly that answer in my post. I'm not asking you to agree with it -- you obviously do not, and never will.

State workers oppressed by a govenment aligned with coporate interests will, of course, perceive the truth of my comments.

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Correction: The Koch's gave $43,000 to a Walker campaign that raised more than $9 million.

http://wisdc.org/index.php?module=wisdc.websiteforms&cmd=searchcandidatesummary&id=102575

Posted by: paco33 | February 28, 2011 8:27 PM | Report abuse

That hacker collective seems to be a bunch of hooligans.

"We are actively seeking vulnerabilities"

That sounds like a threat. I hope the authorities have been notified.

Unless the comment above is a hoax. Who can separate hoax from idiotic stunt with these leftists anymore?

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 8:34 PM | Report abuse

And look--hooligans in the state legislature itself:

"You Are F****** Dead!"

That's what Sarah Palin yelled at Gabrielle Giffords before she was shot, right? Or was it Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh?

Just kidding. Conservatives don't talk like that. But liberals do--as we are now learning, they do it a lot. This time it was Rep. Gordon Hintz (D Oshkosh) who, immediately after the Republicans had passed their budget in Wisconsin's Assembly, turned to Rep. Michelle Litjens (R-Winneconne) and yelled, "You are f****** dead!"

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 8:40 PM | Report abuse

That latest was from Powerline--sorry I left out the reference.

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 8:41 PM | Report abuse

adam62 posted: Conservatives don't talk like that. But liberals do--as we are now learning, they do it a lot.
__

However taciturn conservatives may be, it is a certainty that list of people they have shot and killed or wounded is very long. Talk about talk is cheap. People's lives are not.

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh, we're back to the long line culminating in Jared Loughner. Keep looking for vulnerabilities.

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Surrender accepted.

The latest news is that several independent analyses -- Goldman Sachs included -- view the GOP national budget proposal as a disaster. Hundreds of thousands of jobs would be lost, and the negative impact on GDP would be catastrophic. This is the party that claims to desire to rectify financial woes in Wisconsin. Right wing hypocricy continues apace.

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I like that "hooligan." It's a fun word. But I'm way too lazy and dense to attempt the full parody! Just a sample, in your best James Cagney/George M. Cohen voice:

Who is the man helped the Dems with a gad-about?
Hooligan, that's me!
Who is the man the MSM's simply mad about?
Hooligan, that's me!

H-O-OLI-GAN spells Hooligan!
Proud of all the union blood that's in me,
Divil a Koch can say a word agin me.
H-O-OLI-GAN you see!
Is a name that a shame
Always has been connected with
HOOLIGAN, that's me!

Posted by: aardunza | February 28, 2011 11:10 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20037435-503544.html

Above is the link to what J_B_A is presumably referring to. I doubt any readers here need any commentary to help them dismiss the thing (the economist starring in the report was an advocate of the 2009 stimulus). I just thought I would make up for the hooligan-like habit of our resident leftists of piggishly disregarding the basic courtesy, taken for granted on most websites, of providing links to the stories you refer to breathlessly.

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Pity I couldn't fit Cagney's sublime "double-r-i" into the "double-o" and fit the meter. I watched the flick "Yankee Doodle Dandy" on DVD last year and the commentary is well worth a listen. Did you know his co-star Joan Leslie (who did the song with him) was only 19 yrs old at the time? And even if the politics you don't care for, you must admit "hooligan" IS a fun word. Reminiscent of the great Mark Russell's "Michael Dukakis" to the tune of "K-K-K-Katie, the Wonderful Katie" (taught that song to my four-year-old daughter and she loved it, once upon a time...! :-))

Posted by: aardunza | February 28, 2011 11:28 PM | Report abuse

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20037435-503544.html

Above is the link to what J_B_A is presumably referring to. I doubt any readers here need any commentary to help them dismiss the thing (the economist starring in the report was an advocate of the 2009 stimulus). I just thought I would make up for the hooligan-like habit of our resident leftists of piggishly disregarding the basic courtesy, taken for granted on most websites, of providing links to the stories you refer to breathlessly.

Posted by: adam62 | February 28, 2011 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks adam62. I hadn't seen that link, nor was I aware that CBS was reporting the same news.

I trust you no longer buy the BS that the GOP gives a damn about jobs in USA. (If you ever did, you are a much bigger fool than you appear to be.)

Posted by: J_B_A | February 28, 2011 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Where are the jobs ? Name one job creation bill that the Repubs have passed in the House ? And by far a majority of voters agree that Walker has gone too far and collective bargaining should be off the table. But keep thinking those rosey thoughts and keep poking the hornets nest. We'll see if the voters agree in the next Wisconsin and National election.

Posted by: Falmouth1 | March 1, 2011 5:29 AM | Report abuse

How feeble. Kill Obamacare, cut spending, cut back on regulations, take down public employee unions and start drilling for oil in lots of places, and you'll see plenty of economic growth and jobs. We'll see if the Republicans can get it done without the Senate and with the Socialist in the White House, or if we'll need another electoral wipeout in 2012.

Posted by: adam62 | March 1, 2011 7:14 AM | Report abuse

adam62 posted: Kill Obamacare, cut spending, cut back on regulations, take down public employee unions and start drilling for oil in lots of places, and you'll see plenty of economic growth and jobs. We'll see if the Republicans can get it done without the Senate and with the Socialist in the White House, or if we'll need another electoral wipeout in 2012.

As Herbert Hoover would say, "What a great idea!"

Posted by: J_B_A | March 1, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

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