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ST. LOUIS, Oct. 2 -- This week, Sarah Palin gave a curious rationale for her candidacy. "It's time," the Republican vice presidential nominee said, "that normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency."

When she took the stage Thursday night here at Washington University for the vice presidential debate, Sarah Six-Pack all but popped open a cold one. Wearing a glittery flag pin on her jacket, she blew a kiss toward the audience. She gave a wave that Tina Fey would probably describe as adorable. Then she regarded her Democratic foe, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Read the whole Sketch.

-- Dana Milbank

By Dana Milbank  | October 3, 2008; 11:50 AM ET
 
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LOL, She sure has a strange way of talking, she seems so hillbilly. Watch her Practice for the debate at http://www.watchdebate.com

Posted by: Peari | October 3, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

It's not really such a new idea. Remember back in the Nixon administration when Clement Haynsworth was nominated for the Supreme Court? And the rationale was that "mediocre people should be represented on the Supreme Court, too!"

Posted by: Tom in California | October 3, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 3, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I thought she laid the folksy act on pretty thick, and her accent seemed overly contrived. It wasn't that thick in her previous debates. I actually found it pretty excruciating to listen to for 90 minutes.

Other than the overly cutsy "dog gonnit" Joe Six Pack nonsense, she didn't do much differently than she did in her debates running for governor, which was answer different questions than she was asked when she didn't know the answer, and unleash a BS storm, laced with outright untruths and misrepresentations. Tragically, too many people in this country easily fall for that kind of thing.

Can't we just put her on a reality show where she belongs, instead of letting this actress hold high office? Then all the folks who like her can still watch her act every week, but we won't be governed by fools - again. I'm really sick of getting what they deserve.

Posted by: Teri B. | October 3, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

On Tuesday September 30, 2008 on a conservative radio talk show program while interviewed by Hugh Hewitt, Sarah said, “It's time a Joe Six Pack be finally represented in the position of vice presidency." She then added, “Washington elite do not like the idea of just an everyday working class American running for a high office”. But the facts are that in 2007 the median family income in America was $50,740. In the states of Texas, North Carolina, Missouri, Michigan, New Mexico, Ohio, Florida, West Virgnia, Kansas, Arkansas, Nebraska, Iowa and others the median household income was below $ 48,000. While the middle class was shrinking, the Palin household was one of the top most five (5) percent in the nation that made more than $ 200,000. Joe Six Pack did not have a luxury of being paid to sleep in his or her own home. An everyday working American did not own a plane or two vacation retreats. Such lies would not win her my vote!

Posted by: becky | October 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

i thought they both did good.But i see the dem's are still putting her down no mater what. They are always right and everyone Rep and indep are always wrong. whats up with that? You can disagree with out the name calling.I think a lot of people need to grow up and be Americans.

Posted by: sam | October 3, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

i hope when she loses the election she'll consider a playboy spread.

Posted by: nictrain886 | October 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin did a much better job than i expected, but but i don't like that "folksy" "hillbilly" thing she does. I don't know about you, but i don't want Ellie-Mae (and her dad Jed) in the position of running this great country. She'd probably build a "see-ment" pond in the rose garden and have "critters" running all over white house.

Posted by: laughing cow | October 3, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I certainly do not want a Joe six pack to be the president. I want a president that has vision and idea about where as a whole country should go. This is not the job for an ordinary Joe 6 pack. I listen to hte debate, both did well. Joe Biden is knowledgable and give in depth answers. Palin just repeat all the sound bites she can remember and her answers are just skin deep with no substance. So I think, after all, she is still just a clueless Palin. But I do give her credit for remembering all the sound bites and this is no easy task.

Posted by: kc | October 3, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Flirting with the audience, flirting with Biden, "Doggone it, there you go again.." smile smile wink.
Weird behavior for prospective leader of what once was the most prosperous country on earth.

Posted by: rjbunny | October 3, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Sarah crammed for the exam and she passed. Now I want to see her have one more interview with Katie Couric and see if she can answer any more questions without the deer in the headlight look.

It's amazing how the pro-Sarah's are cooing over a candidate that clearly is not qualified for second highest office of the USA. What pleases me about this VP debate is that Biden clearly showed his 30 years of experience and Sarah clearly showed her ability to learn what to say in 3 days.

NOW we are finally going to set our sights on the real people we should be looking at and that's McCain and Obama. I will be watching both upcoming debates and would expect that McCain needs to learn how to look his opponent in the eye instead of ignoring him even when Obama was talking. At least Sarah had the decency to "face" Biden, McCain can learn from "her" on that.

Posted by: Linda | October 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

She was great got to love her you think Obama is going to think of you in office?

Posted by: kevin | October 3, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The woman is clearly not professional enough to run for anything, but then, she's "only been doing this for 5 wks."
dog gone it! Anyone would be better.

Posted by: Maven | October 3, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww! Sarah Palin ... uh, sigh. Can McCain/Plain please go away.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, you mean some of you want this guy for VP:

- Global warming is all man made
- We should adjust the amount people owe on their home if they can't pay their mortgage.
- FDR got on TV in 1929

Biden is an idiot.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

To give her credit for remembering speaking points is an embarassment for this country. We have reduced our standards to "subprime" in everything we expect of our country and our leaders. We need a President and Vice President who can lead this country. I don't want McCain/Palin anywhere near foreign leaders, dealing with economic issues. By the way, the VP job is to lead the Senate... and does anyone really believe she is capable of doing that? NOOOOOOOO WAY! Biden bit his tongue so many times last night and it was the right thing to do, but to give her credit for getting through the debate.... ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS?

Posted by: HOCKEYMOM | October 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Didn't we get that already.

"Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job"

The outcome is history.

Posted by: ron | October 3, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin = Unstable/Unable

Posted by: Give me a break! | October 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many American people and the liberal media focusing so very much on Palin?? Both Palin and Biden said last night that they agresd and would follow the ideas of McCain or Obama, meaning focus on the candidates for PRESIDENT.

Obama is not black; he is red. He has is the most liberal Senator in the Senate and that says a lot considering Kennedy is in the Senate. Obama's earlier mentor was a communist (that is true).

McCann is a patriot, loyal American, who can work both isles of the Senate. He proved he believes in America and democracy by putting his life on the line and almost died. He has scars to prove this.

OPTIONS: A president who will lead us down the path of a government controlled country, a socialist way of life, OR

A president who will defend democrary whereby our citizens will be free to chose and free to express opinions without fear of government intervention.

I've chosen freedom from government control. "Live Free or Die"

Posted by: Live Free or Die (Good Motto) | October 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm actually feeling really good about the American people. McCain/Palin have been tanking in the polls. Its good to know that people won't be hoodwinked by this tomfoolery.

This will go down in history as a byline: "The Republicans thought they could elect an unqualified identity candidate to VP and they lost the election by a huge margin."

Posted by: Patrick in Ca | October 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse


Palin's rhetoric was very superficial, untrue, and lacked any real thought. It's obvious that they sat her down for a few weeks before this debate and went over and over and over the sound bites, the slogans. There was nothing definitive she brought to the table. For us as Americans to even consider this person as our leader is ludicrous. Joe Biden isn't the end all be all either, but he did a good job. He was improvising, thinking, reacting, not spewing the same garbage over and over. We must demand more out of our leaders. We need the best and brightest running our country NOT joe 6 pack, not the hockey mom.

Posted by: Dan | October 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse


Palin didn't answer any questions. She said things she was coached/scripted to say. Anyone can do that. No she wasn't a blathering fool, but, once again, pretty much any blathering fool can sound quasi-intelligent if reading from a script. Her admission at the start that she wouldn't be answering the questions the moderator posed, but wanted to talk to the american people, made this a non debate, but a one way press conference. So she wasn't reduced to a mound of jello... big deal, she gave no insight into her abilities, expertise or knowledge.

Posted by: kward | October 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Kevin,

Why is it that Palin supporters can not make complete sentences?

"She was great got to love her you think Obama is going to think of you in office?"

I'll edit this for you:

"She was great. You have to love her. Do you think Obama is going to think of you in office?"

Even with punctuation, your comment makes no sense. Do I think Obama thinks what?

Posted by: Tim | October 3, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

considering what we have for a current v.p it does give one pause to think through her rationale. after ten seconds my response is , no way!!!!!!! i strongly prefer an articulate, bright, and responsive president and v.p. pailin and six pack john flunk the test. roger

Posted by: roger lehnert | October 3, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin did a great job in the debate. McCain and Palin are immentiley qualifed to lead this once great country. The class warefare crowd is very hypocritical. I guess the sentiment of judging poeple by their charcter and deeds only applies to the self dulisional messiah Barrack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: No BO | October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"1. When debating, you don't have to answer any questions that you don't want to or haven't prepared for.

2. If you don't have any substantive answers to your opponent, resort often to repeating talking points.

3. If repeatedly asked to answer the question, simply tell the moderator you don't want to answer the question--then continue to
talking points.

4. Appear as 'folksy' (read: vapid) as possible, because most of the voting public are threatened by intelligence.

5. Repeat the words 'Maverick' ,'Corruption', and 'Reform' as many times as possible--regardless of situational appropriateness."

Posted by: Royce Tenney | October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Most of these comments, and the article, criticize Palin by pretending it's a bad thing that she has successfully learned to walk and talk like a national-level politician. "Didn't answer questions" is how these debates work. Don't like her accent? She's pure Midwest-gone-Alaska.

Anyway, the great thing is this: given that, so long as you don't stumble, there's no such thing as bad publicity, all the news has been about Palin. Joe who?

Posted by: Don in CA | October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Geese. I really like Sarah. She speaks right to my ear, that that is the straight talk that I like to hear.

Nothing better than someone like me runnin the country. I feel that havin someone to relate to can make the country better for havin them there. I don't need nobody with some fancy education tellin me what to do with my money. I say let them fat cats on wall street go soak their heads, I do just fine with my GED - I like the fact that Sarah ain't that smart, but that she has common sense, that is what we need dealing with iran.

Also, I second that person who said she should do playboy. That would sure get my cousins to vote for her.

Redneck

Posted by: Redneck 1ne | October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Most of the stuff Palin talked about Obama already went over in his debate. I thought is was kind of funny when she was talking about Darfur and last week she couldn't tell us what newspaper she reads. She had everything written out for her. Just like her speech at the convention. Superstar status for being able to read. Only in America.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

I thought Sarah Palin did a good job, especially only being in the spotlight for 5 weeks.

Joe Biden has been around for over 35 years, and has been right, wrong, and sticking his foot in his mouth most of those. He should have been able to overwelmingly win this, but he didn't.

Like it or not, Sarah did well. I just wish some in the media would admit the truth.

Posted by: Ed W. | October 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a another Bush: likeable at a barbeque, speaking with smiling confidence due to appalling ignorance, and no concept of the law. And it's "nuclear," not "nucular." She was picked for V.P. so that she can be easily manipulated by Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Rove. WARNING: She is another Bush, and McCain is old.

Posted by: Nkirv | October 3, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Sarah To all these people that want it the old way " Try it you may like it " Creatures of habit won't even change the place they eat at so how can they want change in a high office ? .

Posted by: Mr Clinton | October 3, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

"Governor Palin did a great job in the debate. McCain and Palin are immentiley qualifed to lead this once great country. The class warefare crowd is very hypocritical. I guess the sentiment of judging poeple by their charcter and deeds only applies to the self dulisional messiah Barrack Hussein Obama."

Why? If you are going to post your opinion, at least post some facts that helped make your decision.

As I see it, you know nothing about the election that could help you create a real opinon.

Posted by: Tim | October 3, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

It was like being back at the holler. Sarah, go home.

Posted by: PUMAMAMA | October 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Palin was cute in a hillbilly sort of way. But, did she actually manage to answer any of the questions asked to her? No. She diverted and went on her basic stump speach and didnt even worry that she was up there trying to lay out the McCain policy, or at least that was what most of us watched the debate to see. She sounded like a mom at a PTA meeting, spouting her wisdom over something she memorized and has no actual experience of. It was sad, and what was more sad was to read how many people thought she did well in a VIE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. Maybe the movie Idiocracy is really predicting the future for us after all. Can you see this Sarah Palin talking to Putin? Can I call you "Poot"?
I mean please, if this was a real time problem, she wouldn't be able to study for weeks to get the answers, and then what is she going to do? Pull Ellie Mae Clampet out of her butt and try to be cute?

She wants the VP job to be more poweful than Cheney has made it? She couldnt explain anything without adding an "ALSO" to it, it was unreal how many times she smiled and then acted like she wasnt sure what she just said.
I cant believe we have stepped so low as to think this Woman can handle anything beyond the borders of Alaska. John McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time, this country is in a terrible mess, and Sarah Palin is a diversion to make you think McCain wasnt part of that mess making! WAKE UP!
Think People!!!, it isn't the Ms Alaska Competition, its the VP!

Posted by: Karen Yeakley | October 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

10 million tuned in on CNN alone to watch this debate, anyone think these people are actually tuning in to see Biden? LOL. Here comes the Palin surge!

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Joe Six-pack is a working-class person. I don't think Palin/McCain are qualified to represent the working-class.

Posted by: Hilary Smith | October 3, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Geese. I really like Sarah. She speaks right to my ear, that that is the straight talk that I like to hear.

Nothing better than someone like me runnin the country. I feel that havin someone to relate to can make the country better for havin them there. I don't need nobody with some fancy education tellin me what to do with my money. I say let them fat cats on wall street go soak their heads, I do just fine with my GED - I like the fact that Sarah ain't that smart, but that she has common sense, that is what we need dealing with iran.

Also, I second that person who said she should do playboy. That would sure get my cousins to vote for her.

Redneck

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You tell'em red. Them Dam Dang Darn Iranen's aint gunna pull the wool over sarass eyes!

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Relax - also, we have no intention of Sarah being the actual VP, also Cindy will be handling all the VP staff, also Sarah will be assigned to loving Israel and some General named McClelland, also McClelland was a general in the civil war also somehow connected to Afghanistan also she can spell that too.

Can someone decode what English dialect Palin is using...she isn't qualified to be Wasilla's dog catcher let alone 2nd in command.

Posted by: karl rove | October 3, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Hemi,

Nice post you sweet little elitist.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

There is a time for everything under god's heaven. She is borrowing philosophically from visionaries such as Martin Luther King Jr. The idea that no other moment in history was as auspicious as the time when they spoke up for civil rights ... the notion that this was the moment.

Posted by: wax philosophical | October 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

There are plenty of incredibly intelligent people who are knowledgeable about foreign and domestic affairs who are not Washington insiders. I would say it's insulting for the Republicans to continue to put up candidates like Bush and Palin who are, to me, clearly unqualified. I WOULD say it, except for the fact that there is a major segment of the American public that is swayed by this dumbing-down of the issues. I think it's a sad commentary on how some people view education beyond high school.

Posted by: Sean | October 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Somewhat off topic:

Do people realize we have a nation debt of 10 Trillion dollars (not sure if that includes the 700 billion or not?). Now is not the time to talk about giving anyone a tax break. Yes, times are tough, but Reagan+Bush and Bush II have gotten us so in debt, that's really time for everyone too feel some pain (and those who have more, need to contribute more). The Republicans haven't taxed and spent, they've just spent. Trickle down hasn't worked to increase our tax revenue, to help balance the budget or reduce the deficit. We have to cut costs, but that alone won't fix the problem. The only fiscally conservative president (or at least one that began to lower the deficit/debt) in the last 25years was Clinton. If all of us feel the pain (no tax breaks, higher taxes for those who can afford to pay them), then maybe there'll be public outrage, then maybe our governments will do real things to address the over spending. But for the last 8 years (and during reagan+bush 1), instead of feeling the pain of Spend + no tax, we've had the euphoria of tax breaks, with no benefits of trickle down, to a vast majority of americans. We as a country have to start taking responsibility for this mess, feel some collective pain, and start making things right.

Posted by: kward | October 3, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

If you want the debate on your terms I would have said go debate yourslef in the mirror. I know Ifill could not have said that. it does however reflect Ms.Palins' condescending attitute and my way or high way mentality. I will be concerned about this behavior in a VP. I also noticed that she still largely stuck to her talking points that McCain camp had her memorized and did not even use the right context. She did come across as a pitbull unprovoked but on the attack. Using Reagan's 'There you again ' sounded so out of place and unantural. She is no Reagan. Also you don't have to be so colloquial in a debate to impress the average voter.

Posted by: beevee | October 3, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I thought we had a joe six pack president for the last 8 YEARS.

Posted by: jim | October 3, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm traveling and staying in a very ordinary hotel in a Red state. I looked forward to watching the debate and wanted to see it with people. The guests staying in my hotel were (for that night) from a Christian missionary group. How interesting! I would be watching the debate with people very much removed from my own experience. I expected them to really like Palin and not like Biden. What i didn't expect is that a few minutes into the debate they stopped listening. They chatted, they told jokes and they didn't listen. Finally, I left. I couldn't hear the debate much less track the arguments. It reminded me of being in a class of school kids where the subject required just a little more effort than they were willing to muster. Interesting and disappointing. I realize that by mentioning they were a Christian group I've "stirred the pot" a little - but they were. It's time to start listening - closely - to what our politicians are saying. We might not be in such a mess if we did.

Posted by: John | October 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I am terrified that after last night the Republucans have come a bit closer to possibly winning this election.

I can only hope that most of America has the depth and understanding to realize that Palin dodged virtually every question that was thrown at her, and that Americans want their leaders to actually be intelligent people capable of making tough decisions, and not just someone who looks a bit pretty and can throw around down-home terminology to make it seem like she is 'one of them'.

My faith is growing thin, though...

Posted by: Nate | October 3, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Scientists Say Humans Cause Global Warming, Why Can't You [Palin]?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26065-2004Dec25.html

MYTH: The science of global warming is too uncertain to act on.

FACT: There is no debate among scientists about the basic facts of global warming.

MYTH: Global warming is just part of a natural cycle. The Arctic has warmed up in the past.

FACT: The global warming we are experiencing is not natural. People are causing it.
http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=1011

Palin: I'm not one to attribute every man -- activity of man to the changes in the climate.[...]I don't want to argue about the causes. What I want to argue about is, how are we going to get there to positively affect the impacts?

Biden: Well, I think it is manmade. I think it's clearly manmade.[...]If you don't understand what the cause is, it's virtually impossible to come up with a solution.

Posted by: Lea | October 3, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I thought Sarah Palin did a good job, especially only being in the spotlight for 5 weeks.

Joe Biden has been around for over 35 years, and has been right, wrong, and sticking his foot in his mouth most of those. He should have been able to overwelmingly win this, but he didn't.

Like it or not, Sarah did well. I just wish some in the media would admit the truth.

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She did well at what, reading. All she did was read what they gave her. Do you really think she knew any of that stuff prior to last week. You take her away from the script and it's back to my hubby loves his Piper cub Soooooo much. She kept talking about McCain's voting record and she don't even know what it is. She was lying to the American people and she didn't even know it.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody notice that Palin completely avoided answering Gwen Ifil's question: "What is your Achille's heel?" I don't think Palin really knew what that expression really meant since she completely didn't answer the question, and instead gave a litany of her strengths---the exact opposite of what is meant, i.e. 'what are your weaknesses.'

Posted by: who what where | October 3, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Man this page is full of Obama elitists!

Do any of you have the ability to comprehend what Biden said on adjusting what people owe on their mortgage? It is obvious you do not.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The disfranchised individuals, the radical segment of the world population and the terrorist organiations have developed a very unique and very dangerous weapon, which is far superior than the guns, tanks, missiles and even nuclear arsenails. These are called human suicide bombers. In order to combat this menace and to deal with some of the unpredictable and hostile political leaders of the countries, we need a person who is articulate, dynamic, pragmatic and with great diplomatic skills and who can withold the grant leadership in the world theater. Yesterday's experience will have very lttile bearing in to-day's fast changing economic, political, financial and social world. Yesterday's political ideologies whether one calls conservative, liberal, left wing etc will be of little use in do-day's environment. The proof is the present financial crisis, the country is facing whether it is caused by conservative, liberal and or left wing ideologies. Domestically, we also need innovative and creative new ideas and approaches to solve many of our social, economic and financial issues and of course we have very many of them at present.
I do not think the candidates are exhibiting their ability any where near to deal with these challenges. I am sorry to say they are playing the childhood games of
that " I know and do better than you"

Posted by: Gopal | October 3, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Hemi,

Nice post you sweet little elitist.

Posted by: Palin won | October

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Oh yeah, I'm an elitist. I own an acre of land in SC and I'm living the highlife.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

It's funny to see how everyone is praising her for "holding her own", when it was Biden who had to bend over backwards to avoid looking like he was picking on poor widdle Sarah Clampitt.

The "aw shucks" garbage she threw around only works with the type of people who think anyone with more than a GED is an elitist.

Posted by: Jomama | October 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

A true Maverick is a name others call you.
When you proclaim yourself a Maverick,
it's as ridiculous as if you brag to people how humble you are.

True mavericks are named so by their colleagues,
not self-proclaimed.

Posted by: Jan in Pittsburgh | October 3, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Hemi,

You are an elitist and also are lacking in any ability to understand definitions. Try harder, one day you will be something.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I think Palin did herself a great disservice by letting Rove and Chenney dummy her down for the sake of votes. If you notice she refusses to outright slam Bush/Chenney. This will come back to haunt her in any future political endeavors. This should also be a sign to viewers of how they have not covered Joe Biden. I went into the debates only knowing the media fluff about him rather than anything of substance. I thought he did an outstanding job of staying composed and stating his views and experience on every topic. Sara has completed the morph into the female version of George Bush. This should scare the world let alone the entire USA! And for the redneck racists who keep trying to scare the intelligent people of this country who are voting for Obama by stating his middle name, you aren't telling us anything we don't already know. So please stop with the Rove racist tactics. I also notice in the blog we have a new scare tactic. Keep trying McCain/Palin unintelligent fools!!!!!

Posted by: Puzzled Woman | October 3, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Listen here folks, I bet cha that the Republicans were darn right to, and also though, were hurtin a heck of a lot when they created here their vamped up VP to reign in that little Satanic man who rears his head here and there and next door in Russia, to get the heated up, you know for though, there also being offered, is how I fills and how were gonna git there to drill baby drill nucular energy, to keep in that confience also, for you guys and the talibanny, and those back up there in Alaska, goin into lookin into the future. Not doing the blame game, that I mention there, too, agin here, for pushin the side of tha people, like I did in Wasilla Main Street -which I left in 26 million dollars debt (oops, smile, head tilt, wink). But dog gone it, there you go Joe, not doin the job though with good conversation. I want cha to go to work with cha, very wise there. Maverick. Maverick. Maverick.

Posted by: Sarah Palin | October 3, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

To Hemi:

Man, I dont think you are elitist at all. you get it - sarah is just what we need to make this country great. Iran, abortion, god, church, education, government, washington dc, and the wall street. She has it all locked down.

Go hockey mom - only the relpublicans have the cohones to do the good thing and put a REAL american up their so us AMRICANAS can vote for her!!!!

Posted by: Redneck 1ne | October 3, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Puzzled Woman,

Will also request the Obama camp stop where their racist tactics?

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

This debate made me sick. It was quotes from Thursday's Newspapers. On both sides, they were terrible. Palin didn't answer most questions and the ones she did answer, she spoke nerviously. Watch and you can tell when she means what she says and when she didn't. Biden on the other hand forgot to bring what was between his legs last night. He should of got on her for saying the term, "Women Rights" and "Americans". She is against women rights and her husband, until recently, was a part of group that wants SUCCESSION for Alaska from the USA. Yes her husband not her but lets be honest. She has been seen at these meetings and I even read a quote where she congradulated the group and stated they were on the right track...
So we have a Anti-American running as VP and just to make it more interesting, she is coming into office with her own INDICTMENT! ummmm well at least she has a head start.

Posted by: True American | October 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Yes, they should as well. But if Obama attacks then he is labeled the angry black man attacking our war hero and the poor hick woman. No one cared when it was Hilary because she was a democrat. Please look beyond race and his name and see that items such as adjusting American's motgages are a good thing for the country. More American's will have more money of their own to stimulate the economy. We keep bailing out the true elite and people such as yourdself and I are being left behind. I am a teacher and the things that Obama has proposed are things that have been talked about forever but no President has ever had the guts to stand up and say it let alone actually do it. We need competent teacher's who are not just being appreciated by an "apple award". Same with police and firemen, these three careers are the most self-sacrificing in pay verses what is given and expected. When I graduated the state minimum was $19,000.00 for a first year teacher. This is poverty especially considering paying back student loans while trying to exhist on such a pathetic salary.

Posted by: Puzzled Woman | October 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin was clearly prepared for a "non-economic crisis reality show" debate. BS can only get her so far, that's why the paid republican bloggers have to fill in the gap. She was funny with her double personality when that folksy accent went away, then it came back, away and back. At least she entertained us, I would "give'er" an emmy any time "rite der"...

Posted by: Mr. Six-Pack | October 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Why are so many Americans blinded by their party affiliation? Think people! The Republicans had four years to show they could lead in this day and age. They failed miserably, F-. Sure, McCain is not George Bush. If I bought the same car, twice, in the last eight years and it ran like crap both times I would definitely buy a new brand. If you make more than $200K a year then the GOP will look after your best interests. If you make less, then you are kidding yourselves.

As an Alaskan I am disgusted by Sarah "Six Pack?". She has done little as Gov. except sit back and watch, supporting whatever was politically beneficial. Now that she is running for VP she is trying, through the help of Rovian politics, to cover her dirty tracks (i.e. Troopergate) and leave AK in a lurch. Admittedly her dirty tracks weren't impeachable but her actions in the past month show a marked lack of integrity and leadership. Face the facts people, her folksy ways and common person demeanor are great for the PTA but for possible POTUS it is truly terrifying. Come on Republican zealots. If you must support McCain, at lest cry out to have her replaced. Don't let your political blinders and pride put our once proud country at risk.

Posted by: Independant in AK | October 3, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Puzzled Woman,

If you seriously think the government stepping in and adjusting mortgages is a good thing you are an economic imbecile. On top of that, it means you know nothing about the intended function of the US government. Please never vote again.

Posted by: Palin Won | October 3, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is very qualified to be President of this great country. Barack Obama is not. All the focus is on the VP candidates. Dems pan Palin for lack of experience when their Presidential candidate does not have as much experience as she has. Obama has said he wants to get rid of the establishment in DC and then chose one of the establishment to run with him since he doesn't have any real experience himself. How many times has he voted since he's been in the Senate?? His record shows a real interest in his home area but none in the US.

Posted by: An Independent Voter | October 3, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Quote; "Do any of you have the ability to comprehend what Biden said on adjusting what people owe on their mortgage? It is obvious you do not."

I think Biden addressed something I think about on a daily basis as I drive by the multitude of empty, foreclosed homes in my town. I can't help to wonder how the banks that now own these homes are financially benefiting from empty houses. Are they holding out for another five or so years, hoping the market will eventually pick up again to pre-2007 levels? Do they somehow benefit by a total loss on the property as opposed to a decrease in profit? Not to mention the disrepair these unoccupied homes fall into due to neglect and vandalism.

Color me "elitist" to believe that the stability of the family and the prospect of having a roof over your head is the foundation of a stable society. In my mind, this is no "handout" being proposed, but perhaps a more compassionate form of the truly needed "bailout".

Posted by: Jason | October 3, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

You need to read some books on capitalism. Banks do not benefit from foreclosures. The country as a whole suffers from government stepping in to solve the financial problems of the average Joe. There is nothing wrong with failing sometimes, it is how you rise from it that matters.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Economic imbecile perhapse. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that EVERY American that currently has a recent mortgage is "upside down" in them. With the value of our homes decreasing MONTHLY as our rates stay the same or adjust for those that have an adjustable motgage we are looking at Americans being stuck with the bills on the back end of this bailout bill. Are we then going to bailout the banks and motgage companies again when average Americans are forced to sell their houses for a lose. The average American is getting shafted either and all ways. Fannie/Fraddie and the rest of the predatory lenders should have done the right thing a year ago and put a freeze on the rate of the ARM loans but of course they didn't because they knew that Bush would bail them out. When I purchased my home 1 1/2 years ago the lender tried to talk me into purchasing a home that was way beyond our means and I said NO. Unfortunatly other people did not and yet we are forced to bail out these crooks while the American people get NOTHING!!!!!

Posted by: Puzzled Woman | October 3, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The disfranchised individuals, the radical segment of the world population and the terrorist organizations have developed a very unique and very dangerous weapon, which is far superior than the guns, tanks, missiles and even nuclear arsenails. These are called human suicide bombers. In order to combat this menace and to deal with some of the unpredictable and hostile political leaders of the countries, we need a person who is articulate, dynamic, pragmatic and with great diplomatic skills and who can withold the grant leadership in the world theater. Yesterday's experience will have very lttile bearing in to-day's fast changing economic, political, financial and social world. Yesterday's political ideologies whether one calls conservative, liberal, left wing etc will be of little use in do-day's environment. The proof is the present financial crisis, the country is facing whether it is caused by conservative, liberal and or left wing ideologies. Domestically, we also need innovative and creative new ideas and approaches to solve many of our social, economic and financial issues and of course we have very many of them at present.
I do not think the candidates are exhibiting their ability any where near to deal with these challenges. I am sorry to say they are playing the childhood games of
that " I know and do better than you"

Posted by: Gopal | October 3, 2008 1:53 PM

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We have to play with the cards we were delt. At least Obama is willing to deal with people we don't agree with. McCain calls everyone a terrorist that don't play along with what he wants. Chavez is a terrorist because he don't feel like letting Exxon/Mobil make a killing on his oil. Everyone fighting against Israel are called terrorists because their fighting for their land. Were we called terrorists when we fought for this land. And you heard Obama tell us what McCain means by "Preconditions." Before he meets with someone that we don't agree with he puts the word out that it's gonna be my way or the highway. What a way to settle a argument. I would tell McCain to get bent to. Why is it that everyone else in the world can have access to nuclear technology but Iran. Ya let them do what they want if they agree to inspectors making sure their not building nuclear weapons. I think Iran knows what would happen to them if they tried to use nuclear weapons against Israel. They would have the whole world out to annihilate them. Something has to give because we can't keep bombing everyone that won't follow our orders. Sooner or later it's going to come back to us.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Quite presumptive of you assume the depth of my knowledge of capitalism. Considering your prompting, perhaps you can inform me about which books and schools of thought on capitalism you are encouraging me to be informed on? Perhaps the neo-con-classic Fountainhead?

Posted by: Jason | October 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I jus betcha Sarahs gonna be 'lected as vice president cuz shes down to erth and knos how to talk to reguler peeple and she dont think she is all better then other peeple. I love sarah.
Obama is a muslin terrerist and beleeves in aborshon and that homos shuld get marryed, thats so gross.

I am frum Kentucky and my cuzzins are from West Virginia and we are all voting for McCain and Palin becase they rock!

Posted by: glam11 | October 3, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

How the conversation went:

Hapless American (HA): I wanna house

Greedy Lender (GL): I can get you a house

HA: How big a house can I have - I want at least 5 bedrooms cause my wife's daddy has 4

GL: Sure - it costs $500,000. I can get you a loan.

HA: [thinking to himself] "I don't think I can afford that, but I would like to have that 5th bedroom to rub it in my father-in-law's big fat face. Maybe I should ask this slick banker pimple faced kid straight out of college instead of using my common sense." [speaking to GL] Are you sure I can afford that?

GL: You don't have to afford it, house prices will keep going up (fingers crossed behind his back) and you can just borrow against the equity.

HA: Well, although I don't think that sounds kosher at all, and borderline criminal I want that big house. I want it. Where do I sign.

NOW - all of those poor Americans who were taken advantage of - I ask you a question. Where was your motivation? Did you really think that casting the dice with your future on the recommendation of some dirty lender was the good choice, or were you just keeping up with the Jones'? People like myself and my wife now not only will shoulder the burden for your greed and lack of responsibility, but now have a much harder time getting a home loan with the $50,000 we have saved over the last 3 years (the same time you were playing it fast and loose) as a down payment.

I loathe you all. Bunch of crybabies with absolutely no pride in yourselves. Rot in your cookie-cutter neighborhoods with your besmirched credit. You may not get all you deserve because so many of you "fell victim" [read took advantage] that the government is going to bail you out, but in 5 years when I am sitting pretty and one of you jerks comes to me asking for a handout be careful - you'll loose that hand.

call me P.R. (Personal Responsibility)

Posted by: P.R. - Personal Responsibility | October 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Jason,

When you espouse government stepping in and resetting mortgages I do not have to assume anything about your lack of knowledge, you are essentially advertising it on a blinking neon 40' X 60' billboard.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Notice how the liberals are bashing Palin? Nary a one has mentioned how great Biden is...only how terrible Palin is.

Even Joe Six Pack understands when all you do as a supporter, is tear down the opponent rather than explaining why your candidate is so great...indicates there is not much to herald.

Posted by: dan | October 3, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Hemi,

You are an elitist and also are lacking in any ability to understand definitions. Try harder, one day you will be something.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 1:57 PM

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Elitist

Definition:

1. belief in concept of superiority: the belief that some people or things are inherently superior to others and deserve preeminence, preferential treatment, or higher rewards because of their superiority

So tell me what I don't understand. I own very little, which basically means I'm not sitting on a Throne, and don't think I'm above anyone. McCain called Obama an elitist and everyone thought it was funny because he was brought up on food stamps.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Nice Hemi,


You posted the definition and still do not understand. So you are elitist and dumb. Bad combo.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me, "Palin Won", but I now understand why you believe your moniker. Your reading comprehension skills are for S&%t. Please show me where I stated government should bailout people with sub prime loans. You are quick to assume, but short on understanding. Perhaps you should take a line from your VP pick and instead of pointing fingers, perhaps we should find solutions that benefit Americans as a whole.

Posted by: Jason | October 3, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Nice Hemi,


You posted the definition and still do not understand. So you are elitist and dumb. Bad combo.

Posted by: Palin won | October 3, 2008 3:36

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Well why don't you explain it to me smart a$$. You must be a girl because girls think they know everything.

Posted by: Hemi | October 3, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Hemi,

Man, I know what you are talkin about bout girls.

My wife, geese man. maybe if the inquirer is right i can get with sarah instead.

Posted by: Redneck 1ne | October 3, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Palin used as many rhetorical fallacies as possible, almost dancing in dismal disarray as if an SNL audience suddenly found out she was lipsincing. It goes to show you, it doesn't matter how much you cram for a veep debate, you really need to be a political geek to follow what is going on in the country, in the world. I support women working in professional fields, as I am a techie myself, but I don't support women who apply for jobs they are not suited for. A doctor for example shouldn't sign up to be an engineer, a groomer shouldn't try to become a banker, nor should a small town mayor try to work on a completely different scale of work. Can we change the law so that president's cannot pick their veeps - veeps should be the 2nd best candidate for the job, ie. Hilary Clinton rather than Biden, for example. Let the people vote for the veep. On a personal note, can I totally ignore this blog like Palin did on the debate questions, and have a shout out to Katie Couric? Thanks. Katie, thanks for asking the questions on all our minds, and keeping us all focused!

Posted by: bebesvin, Redmond, WA | October 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

AMAZING how much people care about a VP's lack of experience but don't give a Damm about applying it to the Presidency.

Posted by: papadao | October 3, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Palin is nothing more than an embarassment to women. The wink was an insult to the American people. A VP Debate is an interview for the 2nd highest office in the nation. Winking was a sexist trick aimed to incite the men and gullible women who think sex is all that's needed to vote for a higly responsible position. She would never be hired in the real world. Alaska was easy for her cause they're all spead out and cut off from the rest of the media unlike the mainland. Palin is Pro-Life and she's too dumb to realized it. Anyone who supports the killing of a fetus to save her own life is hypocritical, especially coming from a fake christian. All this nonsense on loving god and if you might die giving birth you opt to save your own butt. Shame on her.

Posted by: Jane | October 6, 2008 2:51 AM | Report abuse

Hillbillies goes to Washington, he he he

Posted by: Tony | October 6, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

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