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Cheney Apologizes for W. Va. Incest Joke

UPDATE: Vice President Dick Cheney has apologized through his spokeswoman for making an offhand joke during a speech at the National Press Club Monday stereotyping West Virginia as a state prone to incest.

Cheney spokeswoman Lea Anne McBride tells us, "The Vice President's offhand comment was not meant to hurt anyone. On reflection, he concluded that it was an inappropriate attempt at humor that he should not have made. The Vice President apologizes to the people of West Virginia for the inappropriate remark."

Cheney's statement came after West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin added his voice to the chorus of outrage from Mountain State politicians and demanded an apology from the veep.

"I truly cannot believe that any vice president of the United States, regardless of their political affiliation, would make such a derogatory statement about my state or any state for that matter," Machin said in a statement. "West Virginia is home to some of the most patriotic people in the nation and our sons and daughters have answered the call to duty every time a president has needed their service. They deserve better from the vice president, and so I would simply ask for his apology."

And this from Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.): "West Virginians are the hardest working, most decent people I know. Anyone who spends time with them gets it. The Vice President should be more careful about cheap shots aimed at the very people who elected him."

And Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) said, "That a man who has ascended to the seat of vice president of the United States would openly display such contempt and astounding ignorance toward his own countrymen is an insult to all Americans. Now that he or the administration he represents no longer needs their vote, Mr. Cheney apparently feels that he is now free to mock and belittle the people of West Virginia."

ORIGINAL POSTING:

Did Dick Cheney just hand West Virginia to the Democrats, or what?
'Cause his remark at the National Press Club today is bound to rub plenty of folks in the Mountain State the wrong way, especially those who are sick and tired of hearing West Virginia incest jokes. Already, members of the West Virginia congressional delegation - Republicans and Democrats alike - are ticked off.

Cheney was at the Press Club to congratulate this year's winners of the Gerald R. Ford Journalism Prize for Distinguished Reporting on the Presidency. During a question-and-answer session toward the end of the luncheon, someone asked the vice president about his wife Lynne Cheney's revelation on MSNBC last year that "Dick and Barack Obama are eighth cousins."

The questioner jokingly asked the vice president if he and Obama were going to have a family reunion, to which Cheney replied he would "have no objections" though he said he doubted Obama would want one - "certainly not before November."

Then came the offensive punch line. Cheney explained that during the course of researching his family lineage for Lynne's memoir "Blue Skies, No Fences" last year, he learned there were Cheneys on both his father's and his mother's side of the family. There was a Richard Cheney on his mother's side, the vice president said.

"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney quipped.

West Virginia politicians aren't laughing at Cheney's little joke, including his fellow Republican, Rep. Shelley Moore Capito (R-W.Va.).

"This is exactly the type of stereotyping that we don't need from our elected officials," Capito tells the Sleuth. "It's disrespectful, and it's certainly not funny. The Vice President should know better than to make a remark like this one. We all work hard to further West Virginia's good name, only to have comments like this tarnish it. As a proud state, I can say we are disappointed."

Rep. Nick Rahall
, a 16-term Democratic congressman from West Virginia, was equally as irate. "We may owe the vice president a debt of gratitude for yet another great West Virginia slogan: Dick Cheney is not from here," Rahall told us.


By Mary Ann Akers  |  June 2, 2008; 6:15 PM ET
 
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Comments

As much as I detest Cheney, he just scored a point with the Chief.

Posted by: Chief Two Dogs | June 2, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone will notice. This will have zero impact in the election and will blow away by Friday if not tomorrow.

in my "elitist" view (as a person whose father once worked in Moundsville and who spent some time in Wheeling), the people of the mountain state aren't really paying attention anyway. If they haven't yet noticed that Bush's rules allowing mountain topping to mine coal is polluting their water, they probably won't care about a slur that has been around for ages. They made their decision in 2000 and 2004 and they don't seem to want to change. It is sad, really. It is such a beautiful state and the people have always been friendly to me. I am sorry they don't seem to realize that the "Republic Party" thinks of them as mindless drones and easy to finagle. Sad.

Posted by: mattr | June 2, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Cheney is the poster boy for incest...deranged megalomaniac.

Posted by: Toomy | June 2, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I doubt if West Virginians are smart enough to figure out they've been insulted.

Posted by: oddball | June 2, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sleuth, please call up some GOP West Virginia lawmakers and ask THEM what they think of this.
I love to see Republicans wriggling.

Posted by: B. Kaufmann | June 2, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Heck, I'm a democrat and I think the joke was great! We all know it was tongue & cheek, so why get offended? This is a non-issue, no-big-deal thing.

Except to headline making journalist who forgot what a newpaper REPORTER was... you guys are barely credible now, don't push your luck...

Shoot, at the very least, 'ol Dick's admitting to a family tree with one branch...

Posted by: Jaxon | June 2, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

What do West Virginians do on Halloween? Pump Kin!

Posted by: Louis Michael Mount | June 2, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

I didn't find the joke offensive, just not funny. West Virginia = incest, wow haven't heard that one before.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like it hit Jim-Bob Rahall a little close to home.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

If dreaming about incest is the only thing that brings Mary Ann out of hiding, she should go back to that wretched hole she's been hiding in.

Posted by: Marge | June 2, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

so cheney's inbred? that explains a lot.

Posted by: kurthunt | June 2, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Welcome back to the Sleuth. We've missed you.

Posted by: Demgal2008 | June 2, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

"Cheney was at the Press Club to congratulate this year's winners of the Gerald R. Ford Journalism Prize for Distinguished Reporting on the Presidency. "

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE JOKE.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

"Cheney was at the Press Club to congratulate this year's winners of the Gerald R. Ford Journalism Prize for Distinguished Reporting on the Presidency. "

I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE JOKE.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Gerald Ford was a reporter?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I had to laugh. Did they get the joke? I bet they still trying to figure out what he said. Do you think they will get it?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

As someone who lives in West Virginia I am hardly offended by this ignorant comment. Especially coming from a man who continues to demonstate his complete incompetence on a daily basis.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Charming.

Posted by: Susan | June 2, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Cheney should have just told the story about the good old days when he was unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter of the KKK......oh wait that was Robert Byrd, who has represented these sensitive West Virginians for 45 years

Posted by: TruthSpeaker | June 2, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Can they even read in West Virginia to be insulted by this article? Who cares anyway. McCain will win this state hands down.

Posted by: GOGOP | June 2, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Those people are too ignorant to even know they were insulted. Incest to them is a way of life not an insult. They are too dumb to vote their own interest, they deserved everything they get.

Posted by: Hillary | June 2, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

He was probably really ticked that someone brought to light that he was related to a black man that he felt the need to strike back.

So what.

It'll blow over.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia bigots are dumb and it went over their head.

Posted by: Dixie Chick Fan | June 2, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: | June 2, 2008 5:55 PM


Dumb ass that black man has a white mother!!!

Posted by: Sean Hannity is a Nazi | June 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Just remember I'm A REPUBLICAN and I think that ALL West Virginians are stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Well, it wasn't funny but it does give an opportunity for Republicans to distance themselves and look like they can attack the Bush Administration too in WVA. As optimistic as I am for a Dem landslide in the fall, I'm not dreaming that Republicans in WVA will vote any different than usual.

Posted by: ChicagoDem | June 2, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Where have you been? Doing field research in West Virginia? Your fans have been pining away without you.

Posted by: Larry | June 2, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Cheney's a jerk , but this sure touched a nerve with the W. Virginians... Maybe incest isn't in current practice, but they still can't get out of their own way. I doubt they'll wise up and realize that Republicans haven't been on their side for a *long* time. The state will support the Republicans this time around, too. After all, quality education is still relatively out of reach and McCain looks more their kind than Obama...

Posted by: CAC | June 2, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Cheney, the guy who will write a book about how he dodged the Draft.

Wonder how he'll like it when a few folks from W. Va make jokes about his daughter??

Posted by: Mike | June 2, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I would like say that I as a West Virginian was smart enough to realize that the state of West Virginia was insulted,but I give Dick Chaney my prayers because only a very sick person would say that.Let alone the vice president of our great United States.By the way,I'm only 12 years old.

Posted by: Makala | June 2, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, I laughed.

Look, if "hardworking whites" and "maybe he'll be shot like RFK" doesn't disqualify Hillary, this modest crack shouldn't be any news.

Speaking of, how do you know that the toothbrush was invented in West Virginia?

Because if it was invented anywhere else, it would be called a teethbrush!

Posted by: gbooksdc | June 2, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Have you ever been to West Virginia? Dim-witted rednecks in pickup trucks with Confederate flag license plates, all parked out in front of their neighborhood Walmart. If you ever wanted to know how Bush could be elected ...twice!, just visit any WVa. Walmart on a Friday night. You'll know then how President Poop For Brains made it to the White House. This is Bush's base. Yeeee haaa!

Posted by: Bushwacked | June 2, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

I am sure that, regardless of their relationship, more West Virgnians have served and died for their country than Deadeye Dick can count. If Obama's pastor said this it would be the lead story.

Scumbag.

Posted by: willandjansdad | June 2, 2008 6:46 PM | Report abuse

I think the only comments more ignorant than Cheney's are the ones on this page. Oops...I'm not supposed to be able to read, let alone get on the 'puter and surf the interwebs. Get a clue people...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Will someone give Cheney a hummer so we can impeach this guy already.

Posted by: Biff Griff | June 2, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

What a moron! Everyone knows it's Arkansas.

Posted by: Vince F. | June 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site.
I think that a lot of the comments about this have been personal attacks about my great state of WVand should be removed. Yes we have poverty and we have rednecks and yes I am sure we have incest but I'm am also sure we are not the only state that does.
I have traveled all over the United States and wouldn't trade my one acre in WV for all the slums and down trodden areas in NYC, Washington DC,and Detroit just to name a few.
So if all you highly educated people especially the ones from N. Va and Dc area thinks our state is so backward stay the heck away from our condo's and ski resorts. Ski down 18th street and see how backward WV is.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

People need to lighten up; everybody is so goddamn offended by everything. I hate Cheney as much as any democrat does, but come on folks.

Posted by: af | June 2, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow, they voted for him (twice!) and they still don't mean much then a punchline for a lame joke. That's some awesome values!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Cheney's comment is just plain stupid, much like many of the posts here. Reading through the insults, it will be interesting to see if the WP enforces its own policy, "User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site."

In my 49 years of walking this planet it has been my experience that those who must insult and demean others usually have their own issues and believe they must demean a group so they can feel good about themselves. Here is a hint for you: try to be positive. While it is much more difficult to be positive than negative, at the end of the day you will feel better about yourself.

Posted by: Dan | June 2, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the insightful article and the lovely comments thread from Republicans and Democrats alike. Most people from West Virginia have heard all the incest jokes they care for and they complain when they hear them over and over again. I hope the Shelley Moore Capito voters remember this insult came from her party leader even though she acting a little huffy. Now if you were to discuss political nepotism that might be different, eh Shelley, Joe?

Posted by: eem in wv | June 2, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Dan, I am *positive* W VA will still vote Republican come November, even though it's not in their best interest. :-)

Posted by: C3 | June 2, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

Cheney's comment is no big deal and not a surprise, if you consider the source.

Oddball, You doubt IF what? Did you mean you doubt THAT something is the case??

Pots. Kettles. MM mm mm.....

Posted by: swingstates | June 2, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the total ignorance in this wonderful country we live in. I have a top grade education from WV and now live in Texas. I'm very proud of my heritage and I'm sorry to disappoint you by saying that I am not a product of incest. However, what I'm reading here does not make proud of my fellow Americans. Where did you recieve your education? The school of "hate"?

Posted by: Lady | June 2, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Republican Christian Vice President Richard Cheney quipped.

Maybe we'll remind everybody of this
Often
Maybe we'll remind everybody of this
Often
Maybe we'll remind everybody of this
Often

Posted by: VP | June 2, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait to beat those inbreds on the football field. GO ECU!!!

Posted by: a in NC | June 2, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm a NY lawyer who grew up in WV and can say with certainty that, despite your complacency, some of you idiots are way dumber than anyone from WV.

I think I'll forward some of these comments to the WV Gazette, and then we'll see how "Republican" WV is this November when you little zit-faced Republicans, sitting on your computers all day eating Doritos, tell West Virginians how you really feel. Do us all a favor and go have have fun with your butt buddy Dick -- the most corrupt VP in our country's history.

Posted by: JC | June 2, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

It doesn't surprise me, insult us all you want, were use to it. Goes to show what class of people you really are. The comments on here are a discrace to are country, Republicans and Obama lovers alike.

Posted by: Proud2b-aWVian | June 2, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

West Virginians voted for him twice. So they can now enjoy this joke...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

And this is how he repays W VA for electing him & Bush twice.... Can we really be surprised? What do you expect? He never had your interests at heart and he doesn't need you any more. Let that be a lesson come November, West Virginians.

Posted by: MA | June 2, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Lighten up folks. Just be glad you weren't hunting with him.

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Posted by: sylvia | June 2, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The problem is that there is a great deal of TRUTH to this stereotype of West Virginia which is why it strikes so hard against those living in the state.

Posted by: Banjo Jones | June 2, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

So the people of West Virginia finally learn what the Republicans really think of them. Maybe they will come to their senses and vote Democratic this time.

By the way Mountaineers, what exactly was it that the Republicans ever did for you?

Posted by: Freedom5 | June 2, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I second that, JC! Dick Cheney's retards are out in force here, and that includes the dumb Dems!

P.S. Hey Dickie, I hear you got a new granddaughter, who's her daddy, given that she has two mommys, huh? Sure the baby isn't all in the family?

Posted by: Farfalle | June 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Cheney Besmirches Virginia to excuse his own dirty family secrets.

The usual NeoConMen trick, accuse an innocent of your very own crime so you muddy the waters.

When NeoConMen speak all I hear is spin, lies and talking points.

McClellan's confesses and Trent Duffy and the rest of the Republicommie NeoConMen all begin parroting the same talking points; like good little apparatchiks in their oh so commie bubble. Hey! George, where are the tractor production figures? For White House read Pravda on the Potomac. America Awaken the Reds are in The White House beds!

The NeoConMen create 10 Trillion Dollars of US Tax Debt with Republicommie Pork subsidies for the likes of Halliburton, Blackwater and KBR and all those other Republicommie companies that went to Iraq to suck on the US TAX TIT. Cheney even gave his bankrupt company the worlds biggest ever Social Security Cheque 8 billion dollars of No Bid Contracts. Then they whine about congress spending a 62 million of Medicaid for the USA's poor.

Cheney's dirty family secret comes out and he hides behind a smear on Virginia. If a US Ambassador has served the Nation for decades and he says the intelligence you want to use to lie America into war is wrong then then smear his wife and out her as a CIA agent. Not a thought for others or even the nation. Only the selfish whining of a bunch of commie traitors

But now the American People see the NeoConMen for what they are:

THIEVES, TRAITORS AND LIARS who care only for themselves.

It is time to gather the evidence.

It is time to begin the investigations.

It is time for the American people to have their revenge.

We can see the signs as the traitorous rats savage each other in desperate search for a way out of their sinking ship.

The prosecutors should only let the first to rat on the others have immunity.

Soon Bush will be out of power and can no longer issue pardons.

Then the American People can have their revenge as a dish of Cold Hard Justice.

The Day of Reckoning is coming.

Posted by: walker1 | June 2, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Joke for Dick Cheney. I'd like to know if Cheney ever had a herosexual relationship. In his efforts to dodge the Vietnam draft he got kicked out of beau coup colleges as being to dumb. Then in order to contiue his draft Dodger status somehow Lynne got pregnant in a hurry. What member of his family was the donor? I have known a view West Virginians and I'll tell you they were much more intelligent than anything anywhere in the Republican White House.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

My brother-in-law Warren W Burnett a former Police Officer here in the Monsey NY area of Ramapo Township NYS once quoted himself as saying " I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken." How true he was.
While this might be true if it were a game the real reason the VP is making unregarded remarks these days is that he's being chased down by the likes of those he will know longer support because they have lied to him.
So before they get him I'll spill the beans here.
The Vice President of The United States of America Dick Cheney and Family are hipper then the whole President Gerald Ford Family put together. The VP and his family have put them to shame. Betty Ford's breast cancer candidness and her remarks about her childrens pre-marital sex and marijuana use is nothing to what is going around in my neighborhood. It seems that Mr Cheney has aritficially impregnated his daughter Mary's wife Heather Poe in order to bear Mrs and Mrs Poe and Cheney an heir unto themselves. Cool? What a grandfather.My friends are even thinking about voting for Senator McCain.
Lowell Cheney is about the luckiest guy on Earth right now. On May 23 2008 the little future star of whatever he wants to be had his first birthday.
You can read his birth announcement in the NYTimes on May 23 2007 in the article about Governor Corzine of NJ.
Look in the article for the words "circles followed by the word "circle" followed by the name Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
What's this about? The whole thing was recorded in a cryptogram which ended with the VP's grandson's birth that day. The newest Cheney was supposed to received a SSA# starting with 101. This is an abbreviation for AKA or also known as. Fortunately supporters of Lowell himself like me dePaul Consiglio the origainal 101 SSA# holder interupted this whole thing by holding the line as they say and confused the whole article. The word circle between circles and Clinton ended the possibility of adding the digits 964814 spelling out RODHAM after 101 in order to circle out of office Senator Clinton. This was not another Dirty Trick by CREEP. This was the democrats trying to put the name CHENEY written as 38557 after 101 in order to influence and listen in on Republican Party goings on. But it wasn't Senator Clinton's people that did it. It was Senator Obama's ourtermost circle that tried to do it. The are so cock sure of themselves this year that they had to guarantee it even going to the extent of catching the Cheney Family in the act of Conception. So as it goes the Vice President has been sometimes finding himself having to defend his remarks and whereabouts and accidents during hunting trips or slipping up about incest.
This is unfortunate for him and for the Clinton and Obama camps.
If the number was issued like a few before those that hold them unfortunatly could become very disabled by the numbers issuance.Why? It's unAmerican that's why.
Take it from me I have nothing because of my number 101423386. I've even written to my repesentatives for an explanation but they refuse to even answer after I've explained.
I know the US being a democracy this year and not a republic went about doing a circle on The Cheneys. They did a circle on me and convinced everyone I was wrong until now I have nothing.
I know it will be different for Lowell.So
remember to send him a birthday card next year. He will be in his "terrible twos".
So make up your mind this year when you vote. I suggesting that you all go out and register to do so . But as for me I'll vote for myself this year until the US Government gives me an explanation.


dePaul Consiglio
15 Monsey Blvd
Monsey NY

Into the Future and Back to the Age of the Pioneers.

Posted by: dePaul Consiglio | June 2, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

That not half as bad as I have the Obama camp talk about West Virginia on the internet!

Posted by: Fannie | June 2, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Do people anywhere really think that West Virgineans, or any other state, is especially prone to some sort of sexual preference? There are just as many gays in Minneapolis as in San Francisco. Its just that in SF they feel free to show it, whereas in Minneapolis... well, we all know how the Repubs are taking a wide stance on the issues in this upcoming election.

Posted by: frank burns | June 2, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

what would ya expect from some no class slob

Posted by: John M | June 2, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Both Cheney and Bush are polished liars. Too bad people bought into their lies. West Virginia? They helped elect these lying thugs, I have no pity or empathy for them. They're getting what they got coming. Another Republican (Ron Paul)often talks about "Blow-back". Sounds like the chickens have came home to roost in West Virginia.

Posted by: downhill240 | June 2, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Hand the Democrats WV? Surely you jest? Cheney has no plans to be on the ticket in case anyone noticed.

After Obama's team called WV a bunch of ignorant racists I somehow doubt they're going to flock to vote for him.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Vice President Cheney shows how ignorant he is.
He should know Tennessee leads the nation in Incest

Posted by: pat b | June 2, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Dick Cheney, head of the Bush Shadow Government for eight years, has clearly been on the debit side of the national ledger when it comes to hate speech. He told a fellow Senator, a Democrat, on the Senate floor to do something anatomically impossible to himself. And now this about incest and West Viginians. May the end of his reign come quickly.

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | June 2, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

LMAO

Posted by: Alex | June 2, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Is Cheney still alive? When is the disgusting sneering walrus gonna die already?

Posted by: Ughh | June 2, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Ok, We get it! You have nothing better to do then to call Cheney ignorant and rant about how much you hate the Bush Admin's guts, we've been hearing it for the last 8 years! So why dont you close your mouth and let the grown-ups talk politics.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Those who think this will blow over and be nothing: Maybe you should 1st poll the West Virginians serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. Maybe also poll the families of WV soldiers killed there. To have a sitting -- not former or elderly or senile -- VP of the United States of America severely insult one of his own 50 states is outrageous. Not only that, he's not insulting MA or NY or some other way liberal state; this is a state that cast 1000's of votes for him to be VP twice, and is generally quite conservative. I guess deeply insulting 1/50th of the senators over which you preside (as senate tie-breaker) is "family values" in Dick Cheney's mind.

May I remind you, Mr. Cheney, that West Virginians were at least intelligent enough to associate with the North in the Civil War, with the WV counties breaking away from Virginia, something that must have taken a lot of guts to do. Guts that you, Mr. Cheney, didn't have enough of to even serve in Vietnam.

What a total idiot....

Posted by: Steve | June 2, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Dick and George both cut and ran from VietNam. As Dick put it "He had other things to do" like babysitting. So maybe he should apologize to the family members of those 4,000 plus brave soldiers who he sent to there deaths so he could make money from Haliburton. His stock in a blind trust went from $40,000,000 to $400,000,000. Now he made a lot of money from those brave Men and women from W. Virginia who fought in this fight and died in fight he and George can't finish. Now if don't see the truth and let him get away with this huge crime then you deserve his insults because he is getting away with it at your expense.

Posted by: fastcad | June 2, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh come ON folks. It was just a tasteless jab at the good folks of WV... he didn't mean nothing by it. By the way, I can't stand the guy, never could; never voted Repuglican in my life.

Posted by: Portland Bob | June 2, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

i live in maryland about 2 miles from west va and my best friends from there are all idiots. i swear these people think and i quote "why in the hell would people elect a terrorist as president, his middle name is hussein he has to be a terrorist."
yep your right, they wont even read the news to get remotely upset about any of this. IGNORANCE IS BLISSSS

Posted by: j | June 2, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Real cute comments above. Yes, we can read; yes, we are smart enough to know when we've been insulted; yes, you are ignorant - because you don't know care to know a thing about us.

You are revealing your own ignorance.

Cheney - who cares what that fool thinks? I thought he would be too busy counting his pennies.

Posted by: Nancy Dougherty | June 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Lighten up, People! Don't get your panties all caught up in a wad with all this PC BS! It was said in jest - a concept that, evidently, escapes most of you! I'm from Indiana, where I have "endured" (boohoo!) this trivial banter all my life and it didn't traumatize me one bit. In fact, it instilled in me a sense of pride - in who I am & in the fact that as an American, I can still say these things! As my boy, "Larry the Cable Guy", would say, "I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!"

Posted by: Steve | June 2, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It was a JOKE! You don't like the joke? Fair enough. But grow up, West Virginia. The reason most jokes are funny is because someone, somewhere got hit by the punchline.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

nice one, dick

Posted by: daver | June 2, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

It's such a pain in the rear being a Wyomingite and having Dick, as in Cheney being a hometown boy. :o(

Posted by: L. Stevenson - Wyoming | June 2, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

How many comments of absolutely no consequence does it take to turn liberals
into a pack of intolerant, viscious, miscreants? Sadly, only one. If the person making it is a conservative.

Posted by: tj | June 2, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I think that his remark was far from being a joke. No wonder why they call him Dick!!! I don't feel that anyone in office should make any kind of remark as he did by any means. I think a person like "Dick" should step down from his position!!!

Posted by: Tammy from West Virginia | June 2, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I saw that movie on cable, the way they mine coal. I can't believe those people can get away with destroying the land and water like that. Greed has taken over our country. Our government don't even care that people are getting sick and dying. It' pretty bad when you have to truck water into a state. I think all of those ----- should be lined up and shot.

Posted by: Mike M | June 2, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I DON'T THINK WHAT THE STUPID ASS HOLE SAID WAS A JOKE AT ALL.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

mr.vice president thank you for your support and your public service for this good country and the whole world.im very 100% like your joke and your attitude.finally mr.vice president you and president bush are my best president and vice president in united state of america. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.IM A ISLANDER LIVE IN RENO...

Posted by: stewee icey | June 2, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

So this is issue that gets folks riled up against Cheney?

Posted by: The Stupid American | June 2, 2008 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Yes people of West Virginia voted him in but now that they have jacked up the gas prices we know what to do now. And yes we can read and yes my salary is in the 100,000.00 Range.............How about yours.

Posted by: West Virginia | June 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

That's what's wrong with this country. Nobody can laugh at anyone or anything withougt someone being terribly offended. It was a JOKE. Lighten up!

Posted by: Marie | June 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

well, you know what they say: the truth hurts.

Posted by: jonnt rocket | June 2, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Anyone that doesn't live in West Virginia thinks this remark is just great. If the shoe was on your foot and the remark was made about your state you would feel the same way people in West Virginia feels. I think that both Bush & Cheney has wore their welcome out and they both need to take a long walk off a short pier. I am sick of the blood sucking politics. It is time for a change. Wheres' Hillary?????

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree. I hate the man, but anyone crying over a great joke (where he made fun of himself too mind you) should get a hanky and get over it.

How often do you get such a monster to actually deliver something humorous? Take what you can get people.

Posted by: James | June 2, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I think Cheney is a JackAss.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Serves these redneck GOP loving hillbillys right.... go ahead and vote for the people who hate you....maroons.

Posted by: Rick | June 2, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

whats a West Virginia?

Posted by: Shaw | June 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

On Cheney and the West Virginia incest joke; I can understand why the West Virginians are offended, Louisiana, Arkansas and Northern Georgia are far more prone to incest than West Virginia! There are towns in far western North Carolina where everyone has red hair and looks the same. Coincidence, don't think so!

Posted by: Dr. Will | June 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

The real shame is that none of us are allowed to laugh at ourselves anymore in this age of self flagellating so called political correctness. We have enslaved ourselves for no good reason. I remember the Dean Martin roasts of the 1960's before Americans became afraid to laugh at themselves. Shame on all of you. Now we Americans live like the Soviets did during the 1950's---we have to look over both shoulders before we share a joke with a friend. Just imagine the world your children will have to try to survive in.

Posted by: Jim | June 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Cheney is awesome! You just don't get it. And probably never will!

Posted by: Marie | June 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Please, I live in Florida and am used to jokes made at Florida's expensive but I don't go crying whenever people say Florida should be kicked out of the Union. It's just a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

When the vp passes on we can walk our dogs to his resting hole to poop on.

Posted by: spo | June 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

To all of you stupid idiots who are making fun of West virginians-you can all go straight to hell

Posted by: Matthew | June 2, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Welp, how can anyone be surprised that that came out of his mouth? He's arrogant and certainly doesn't give a *hit what anyone thinks - I mean, the guy ignores subpeonas - what does he give a *hit about what the people who voted him in office think?

It's sad to think the folk in WV would vote against their own self interest. Voting for Reagan was bad enough, but these two!

Posted by: Xtina | June 2, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Cheney has insulted the people of my home state WV. He has pretended he is from TX. He has insulted veterans by differing from the Vietnam War 5 times and deceiving the US into the Iraq War. He has broken laws and hurt national security in the Valerie Plame case. He has lined his pockets with the American treasury through Halliburton and made energy policy with his oil buddies all the while ignoring the law and the US Constitution.
He is a war criminal, a criminal on par with Richard Nixon and he will get his just desserts in the end.

Posted by: HelenBack | June 2, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I sure didn't vote for Bush or Cheney - they are both pieces of s**t!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Awh heck, that there aint nuttin! Ive heard better jokes bout west viginia!

What do yous calls a west ginnia farmer wid two sheeps under his arms......

A pimp!

Posted by: Ralph Crandon | June 2, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

When asked about service in Vietnam, Dick Cheney said he "had other priorities at the time". I imagine those who died in that war of non-necessity also had other priorities at the time -- like watching their kids grow up, having grand kids, living out their futures. The privileged got deferments (for college, which was a very privileged pursuit those days), the average Joe died in combat. To have these draft avoiders be todays war-hawks and war-barons is hypocrisy at its worst. But then again, Republicans pound their chests and vote for their ilk with delusional fervor. I wonder if they will do so even after being insulted by them.

Posted by: Keelaay | June 2, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Did no one notice that he denigrated his family? I wonder what he's heard from them.

Posted by: Hen | June 2, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone should make any kinds of remarks against the Vets that were in Vietnam. I had a Daddy that fought in Vietnam when I was 2 years old and he was in Aging Orange above his ankles and now my Daddy has been gone for 5 1/2 years for fighting for our country. He died in the VA Hospital in Huntington and it was from Cancer from the Aging Orange. There were 5 other individuals on the floor at the hospital where he was and they all had the same type of cancer and were all in Vietnam at the same time. Dear God please place your hand upon individuals like Dick Cheney and please forgive them for all their wrong doings. God Bless this Country.

Posted by: Tammy | June 2, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

"Dear God please place your hand upon individuals like Dick Cheney and please forgive them for all their wrong doings"

Agreed.

And then Dear God... please send them straight to hell anyway.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

why isn't this on youtube yet!?!?

Posted by: Videofiend | June 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

What a dick.

Posted by: Muck Fccain | June 2, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

We have been given a true example of Republican Family Values.

Posted by: Audrey | June 2, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I moved to WV from TX and would take WV over TX any day of the week.

Since all of you must read at least some parts of the newspaper, I don't think I should have to spell out for you the implications of my statement regarding TX.

This is especially applicable in light of the state of residence of the utterer of the comment in question, as well as recent events in TX that one can read about on the first page of this fine publication.

To wit, I think it's quite interesting that one who claims TX as his state of residence would have the intestinal fortitude to comment on aberrant sexual practices by specific geographical location.

Posted by: WV rez | June 2, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

The venom and disrespect shown in alot of these comments is exactly what they hope for. The 'us or them' mentality keeps us squabbling about trivial things, unable to reach compromise and understanding, and thwarts the great power of this country - the people's will.

Cheney should apologize - it's what civil people do when they've said something to hurt someone else. It's what a person of integrity would do. It's what my parents taught me and I hope my Grandson will learn.

We need decent leaders and we need to quit hurting each other.

Posted by: squiddlywonk | June 2, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are the true "elitists", the behind-the-scenes big business tycoons that manipulate our government and laugh all the way to the bank.

Cheney and his kind are the elitists, not goofy Hollywood celebrities who just want attention and walk around trying to get quoted...

My hat is off to the Republicans for flipping it so that the ignorant poor are tricked into voting against their own self-interest.

Posted by: Republicans Are The True Elitists, Always Have Been | June 2, 2008 10:39 PM | Report abuse

The West Virginia Supreme Court recently issued a ruling that stated that even though a married couple gets divorced, they're still considered to be brother and sister.

Posted by: Nick in Virginia | June 2, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Crude? Sure. I'm no fan of Dickie, but honestly, even in writing, it is plain to see he was merely trying to be humorous.

It irks me that people go nuts over something like this and yet pay good money to watch a comedian like Chappelle.

The problem with America isn't that evil men like Cheney exist, it's that thin skinned people exist. If I were a West Virginian, I'd give a polite smile at Dickie and cronies and then vote for an independent. Nothing infuriates politicians more than losing an election because his votes went to a third party. No need for all this PC 1984 speak. Actions will speak loudly enough. I guess we'll find out how insulted West Virginians were come November.

Don't forget, you can always write in any person you wish at the ballot.

Posted by: PC is Bad for All | June 2, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

"I had a Daddy that fought in Vietnam when I was 2 years old and he was in Aging Orange above his ankles and now my Daddy has been gone for 5 1/2 years for fighting for our country. He died in the VA Hospital in Huntington and it was from Cancer from the Aging Orange."

Uh, Tammy, I think the word is "Agent Orange", not "Aging Orange" At least that's the way I heard it pronounced, back when I was in 'Nam. May your father and others like him who gave All they had, Rest in Peace!!

Posted by: Steve | June 2, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

at least we're not queer

Posted by: wv | June 2, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

ok, if someones family has been in the us for more than say 5 generations, you WILL find were there are cousins that have married. Its a proven fact. Go back to Europe pre 1700 and you will find it even more so. In past times with a smaller population, there were fewer choices for spouses, cousins married all the time, its not as bad as people believe. Its a fact that most people who do genealogy research already know. Also, just because two people have the same last name, doesn't mean they are related, in fact, with most surnames, its about an 85 percent chance that you aren't, or at least not with in 8 generations, which beyond that, it truly doesn't matter, except to genealogist and geneticist.
If you believe in Christianity, Judaism, or Islam, then you by default believe that all humans descend from incestuous relationships. Point being: get over it.

That being said:

When you get to West Virginia, what does the sign say?
Welcome to West Virginia,
Population 1,808,344:
three last names

(population number from the 2000 census)

Posted by: jason | June 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

if 2 West Virginians get a devorce, are they still cousins?

Posted by: Bush | June 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Sick Dick. To vote for Bush was to keep Teresa Heinz Kerry from running the county. We figured as arrogant as Dubya is he would keep Dick inline. If you don't like WV Dick, Don't come back to the Greenbrier or any other place in WV. We don't like your dumbass anyway. The people of WV have rallied for all the wars, carried over for Kennedy's, Donated time, blood, sweat and tears whenever there was a crisis anywhere in this great land. Yet, we get made fun of. Why? Because outsiders dont know us. Nor do they care. Obama, I was going to vote for you until the comments your staff made and the craziness about your church made front page. So, we have a few holyrollers, at least they are honest about it, and don't change their story when confronted or disown their own church to win. We honor our friends, our family's and our country. SlickDick, come on over, take your shoes off, sit a spell, you never know whats gonna come outta the holler....Shesh.

Posted by: Candy | June 2, 2008 10:52 PM | Report abuse

Um...I'm offended because I thought WE were the incest capital of the nation. So who is it? West Virginia, Tennessee or Kentucky?

By the way, did you know that in those three states, even if you divorce, you're still cousins?

Posted by: Kentucky Girl | June 2, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm shakin it boss! I'm shakin it! Mommas little baby loves shortnin bread. Wade in the water,wade in the water children. LOL Piss on you REV Wright lovers.

Posted by: maryland | June 2, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

People, including those from the beautiful state of WV:

Getting married to a COUSIN is not - I repeat NOT - incest!!!! Beyond that, having two people with the same last name doesn't mean they are related!!!! Sheesh!

In other parts of the world, many people would have taken Cheney's comment to mean that everybody in the the area is related to one another, mainly because people traditionally had larger families in the past and the mountainous terrain made it more difficult for people to marry someone from far away.

I agree Cheney's joke was tasteless, and frankly, not particularly funny. I agree that it's especially not funny if you are on the receiving end of it. But at least keep your facts straight.

Frankly, I think incest in WV is much less of a problem than a whole new generation of WVians refusing to vote for someone simply because he is black. To me that shows a disappointing lack of thinking in a people who are otherwise sincere and decent.

It's a pity Cheney wasn't bright enough, or sensitive enough, to come up with a better joke. It's even more of a pity that he couldn't even appologize in person for his pejorative words.

Posted by: RealityCheck. | June 2, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I mean, how does one effectively DELEGATE an apology?

Posted by: RealityCheck | June 2, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm not originally from West Virginia, but lived there for five years, in Morgantown. What I found there were the finest, hardest-working, most genuine people I've ever met. I have a Masters degree from an Ivy League university, and I met many people in West Virginia, including many who attended WVU who were as intelligent, thoughtful, and insightful as most I met in the more prestigious places I've been.

If you're out there criticizing West Virginia, you are doing it out of your own ignorance, a state in which you no doubt repeatedly find yourself. Grow up and look at yourself. If the best you have to offer is to criticize good people, then you indeed have nothing to offer at all.

VP Cheney's remarks were rude and hurtful. He should be embarrassed, as should you.

Posted by: PG | June 2, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Wat yu thinkin? WV is best state in onion. I bet you foaks neer bean here, not never. were gud peeple and Dick Chaney is not nice. He shot someun in his face - I seen it on tha news. We don shoot people in there face by accident in West Virgenia. We much smarter then that. Take that Mr. Cheeny!

Posted by: Somewhere east of I-25 | June 2, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

" Those people are too ignorant to even know they were insulted. Incest to them is a way of life not an insult. They are too dumb to vote their own interest, they deserved everything they get."

Posted by: Hillary

To the person who stated this...Contrary

Contrary to popular belief there are many people from West Virginia who ARE educated. We are not ignorant nor do we practice incest. We DO stand up for ourselves, and our state. Anonymity is an incredible thing, but let me see you knock on my front door and tell me I'm ignorant, I'll show you my college degree right before I give you a little taste of our "down home southern hospitality." West Virginia~ Wild and Wonderful

Posted by: DavefromWV | June 2, 2008 11:04 PM | Report abuse

What a Dick.

Posted by: Eric | June 2, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia has been fighting to stop these types of views by people, and to have someone in such a high place make a comment like that is most unprofessional and very disrespectful. I find him to be very Un-American, just as the whole bush administration is

Posted by: WV-Jason | June 2, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

We all know VP Dick has a bad heart. Now we know he has no courage or a brain.We West Virginians will be fine. Just stay out West Dick. One visit to the Steel towns and coal mines have taught you nothing. The joke is on you. No way would you know a hard working American if you ever came out of your cave long enough to meet one. So long ,Dick.

Posted by: Bee Jay | June 2, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Q: Why do OJ Simpson want to move to Wyoming?
A: Everyone has the same DNA.

Q: How is Divorce in Wyoming like a hurricane in Florida?
A: Somebody's gonna lose a TRAILER!

Posted by: Chupacabra | June 2, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

If you're from West Virginia, and the VP makes an incest joke and you realize that he's talking about you .... then you might just be a redneck!

Posted by: bwhahahaha | June 2, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Cheneys on both sides of the family?He suggested that Patrick Leahy "---- himself."Perhaps Dick knows how to perform that seemingly impossible task;he seems able to do it to others.

Posted by: seang | June 2, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Does Cheney even know where West Virginia is? Obviously, Cheney and Bush didn't know where New Orleans was.

And hey GOGOP, you need to contact your inbred Republican relative in America and let all of them know that McCain doesn't stand a chance. There's a black man who knows where New Orleans is. And a black man that has finished in the top of his class Harvard Law School, while McCain finishes 894 out of 899 in college.

Call Cheney and tell him the slaves are free...Tell McCain, drop the bong and vote.

Posted by: Bill | June 2, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Cheney we republicans need these dummies to win in November.

Posted by: Randy Bowers | June 2, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Not a big deal, Lord Cheney knocks WV...we might be backward and scary to the rest of America but if the power is out for more than a week we will be just fine here in Appalachia unlike most in this country who will need a rescue from themselves:-)...inbreeding jokes about wv or the south not much different than jokes about everyone in California being homosexual,liberal,communist on and on.

Posted by: Shawn | June 2, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that most West Virginian's aren't offended by this poor attempt at humor. We realize it was a joke and not the first time we've heard it. Our state strongly supported Bush / Cheney and most definitely would do so again. ... they carried our pathetically Socialist Democrat State twice. Liberal appologist in other states will make a bigger deal out of this than we will here locally....except of course for our politicians who want to gain favor be appearing to defend our honor.

Posted by: wv | June 2, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

As a WV native who has lived in other parts of the country and abroad, I am neither surprised nor offended by Dick Cheney's inference to incest in WV. I pride myself in knowing that I can only be "led" by someone I perecive as being smarter than I am. He sets the bar pretty low, and therfore, could never get my vote of confidence on any level. Stereotypes have been around longer than I have been on this earth. As a Black woman from WV, I've heard more than my fair share. Still, I find comfort in knowing that my parents worked hard to instill a good work ethic and sense of personal and collective responsibility; provide a good education for me; and foster a sincere concern for others. I know plenty of educated fools and most of them do not originate from WV. I am proud to be a West Virginian, regardless of the countless jokes and jabs that come my way from outsiders or insiders for that matter. As the saying goes,"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me." You don't have to be a genious to understand that.

Posted by: Shelly | June 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

im frum worst verginan...somone tell me what means WV?

Posted by: worst verginan | June 2, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I've grown to dislike Dick more and more in the last 8 years. The only thing I've found that I enjoy are his jokes & now everyong is bashing those. There's nothing left!

Posted by: In_the_know | June 2, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Let's all try to get offended here, so that we don't have to deal with anything that might resemble a real crime on Cheney's part.

Posted by: John from Tokyo | June 2, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Ah, you just have to love the internet. Gives cowards an outlet to spew their small-minded filth. I, too, am a native West Virginian, and can only shake my head at the gross display of ignorance on this comment board. Having lived in various states and countries during 23 years of fatithful service to her, I can only say each state/country I've been to is no better/worse than WV.

What you all have been doing is something called "projection" - attributing one's own undesirable traits to other people. Used often by people who suppress deep-seated inferiority complexes and overcome it by heaping insults on people they think cannot defend themselves. Cowardice at its "finest."

Naw, we West-by-God-Virginians aren't mad at you - we pity you. I hope y'all can find the courage to overcome your insecurities. But alas, t'were it possible you wouldn't be spewing ignorance anonymously on the internet. Now don't spend too much time on this topic it'll keep you from surfing the porn you've become addicted to.

Posted by: Montani Semper Liberi | June 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: james brooks | June 3, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

dick is a war criminal - IMPEACH NOW!

Posted by: rusty | June 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: james brooks | June 3, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

What courage Cheney has. Shoots a "friend" and reports it to an insignificant tv station. Now makes a wise crack in the national media and when people get upset gets someone else to apologize for him. That truly takes courage.

Posted by: Barnicle Bill | June 3, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

He made a comment about his own lineage....it was no joke

Posted by: srm | June 3, 2008 12:29 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing that he's being attacked by fellow politicians... as they're all in bed together anyways.

Posted by: Wrathwilde | June 3, 2008 12:30 AM | Report abuse

It would be nice if Cheney had the nuts to apologize himself. Also, he should apologize to all those born to incestuous relationships for comparing them to the Cheney family.

Posted by: Vincent F | June 3, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Why are so many people in this nation unable to take a joke? Also this will have absolutely no impact on the election because anyone who is this easily swayed will be swayed again by a new hot issue before November.

Posted by: Jack | June 3, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Chainy dint do well enuf to get on the ballet here weeks ago. I voted fer Hiliry for vice precedent this time. Maybe in 6 years Rick Chainy will do beter. But he needs to be nicer to us. My freind told me I shuld be madd.

Then, Obamma was Muslim according to my nabor. I beleeve it. What kinda name is Obamma anyway - sounds like sumthing from the flintstones.

Posted by: ClemFromWV | June 3, 2008 12:56 AM | Report abuse

Do you know how they celebrate Halloween in West Virginia?
Pumpkin.

Get it? Pump Kin?

Posted by: ThisHereDude | June 3, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

we all need to relax. it was just a joke. get over it...

Posted by: George | June 3, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

As an observant West Virginian who lived many years in DC, I heard many such remarks. It grew tiresome (like the ignorant posts here), but I wasn't particularly insulted. My grandma always told me that anyone who must put down other people to puff him-/herself up is to be pitied.

Yes, I was mortified by the 2004 election and the recent primary results in WV, but I wasn't especially surprised. The state has a sad history of being conned---first by the timber industry, then (and still now) by King Coal and chemical companies, and often by our own politicians--Republican and Democrat alike.

My Republican neighbor confided to me the other day that he has always mistrusted "colored people," but that he has decided to vote for Obama because "he seems like a good man who wants to do the right thing." He could have been describing himself. Here's a man brave enough to take a chance on something different because he realizes the old ways just aren't working. I hope many of our other neighbors come to the same conclusion.

Posted by: vashti | June 3, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

That's exactly the same nonsenses will be putting with McCain if he ever becomes President!
What a shame! How divisive is that!!!

Posted by: joyce P. | June 3, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

How patronizing and insincere for the Vice President to make that disgusting remark only to have somebody else appologize for him. He needs to do that job himself. He is a crude, crass old curmudgen who should be put out to pasture. Not standing at a podium making sick jokes about the citizens of the country in which he is Vice President. Just because, as he said, he isn't running for office, doesn't make it appropriate for him to imply that people in West Virginia practice incest. He has shown time and time again that he has no respect for the American people or what they want. He thinks that he and Bush can do what ever they want and the will of the people be damned. This petty criminal thug has done irreparable damage to this country and should be in jail. Instead he gets invited to important places to spew his evil rhetoric.

Posted by: Deb | June 3, 2008 2:56 AM | Report abuse

I don't like Cheney but his comment was humorous and inoffensive. He was pointing out that HIS parents were cousins. It's called self-deprecation, people.

Posted by: Jim Williams | June 3, 2008 3:59 AM | Report abuse

Now I know what's wrong with Chaney, but tell me why some people on here are also being so insulting to a state they have probably never visited. I hope they are not young kids. If so, no wonder we are having so much violence in our schools. Do you not have any sensibility. You are showing your ignorance. Yes, I am from WV and yes I know I have been insulted.

Posted by: connie | June 3, 2008 5:56 AM | Report abuse

This was just covered on the local news (WRC Baltimore DC)... let's hope the news carries to WV media... Perhaps those GOP die-hards will come to their senses!

Posted by: Ed | June 3, 2008 6:00 AM | Report abuse

OK, obama supporters. You have shown your hand. You are taking advantage of Cheney's comment to make west Virginia look stupid, because they voted against your man. And in the process you can make west Virginians angry at the republicans and vote for your man in the general. SHOWS HOW HATEFUL AND DECEITFUL YOU ARE. Reading your comments one would think West Virginia was the only state that voted for Bush. Grow up, and tell your candidate to do the same.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh, by the way, I am a democrat and I VOTED FOR HILLARY. NEVER voted republican. Seriously thinking about it, because such hateful behavior from obama camp.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:47 AM | Report abuse

This country is really going downhill, and fast. Jews are being shot and killed for being Jews (Seattle) and synagogues are being torched (Miami). The public unblinkingly accepts Obama's references to "typical white" people and his widespread associations with racist hate-mongers and domestic terrorists. And now it's permissible again to ridicule and humiliate the good people of West Virginia? I guess we're really behind the times here in the Mountain State: Hate isn't fashionable here (yet). All in all, I hope we in WV can remain remote, well removed from the "progress" that is polluting - and ruining - the rest of the country. And in the meantime, I'll see what I can do about changing those signs at entrances to the state, from "Wild and Wonderful West Virginia" to the more simple, good and old-fashioned "KEEP OUT."

Posted by: Anne Lieberman | June 3, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

His Family Tree???
Obviously one branch short of a twig! Idiot, he is not even funny. PLEASE, DO QUIT THE DAY JOB! Oh, you will be out of the day job, LOL! Many jokes could be made about your family... their sexuality, but nah, why waste anyone's time... you are not worth it!

Posted by: Mitzie Simms | June 3, 2008 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Cheney, you were given a historical vote from the state of WV I'm sure in large part because of our military population. Being a military wife myself I am in disbelief you would be so ignorant to literally bite the hand that fed you. I guess past tense is key here, right? You no longer need our vote; however, the Republican party does and I'd like to personally thank you for blowing that. I've lived all over this great country and have encountered what is perceived to be backward, ignorant people in every state I've resided in. Unfortunately, we're hit with an undeserving stereotype. I'd like to believe what you've said will fade with time but I'm afraid people will remember this come November. You are obviously ignorant and ungrateful. I'm proud to say I'm a Mountaineer. I'm a military wife and proud of my military and my family who has served and today I'm very proud of the fact YOU are not from my home state of West Virginia. I'm sure Mr. Whittington is too.

Posted by: Heidi | June 3, 2008 7:31 AM | Report abuse

I don't find the "joke" that offensive, but then again, I'm not a West Virginian. What I do find offensive is Cheney and Bush's hypocrisy. They tout family values yet Cheney makes light of incest, which often results in rape and/or birth defects.

As for Bush, the list goes on and on ... i.e. Bush telling Cheney that NY Times reporter Adam Clymer was "an *sshole" when he didn't realize the mike was on. BUsh refused to apologize. Then there was the video of him sticking his middle finger to reporters. And who can forget him giving an unsolicited massage to German Chancellor Angela Merkel during dinner? Hey Georgie, this was an diplomatic dinner among world leaders, not a hoedown with pals at your ranch. It's known as sexual harrassment. I won't even get into Bush's frat boy days where he had a C- average and majored in booze.

Then there was mom, Barbara Bush, who implied that vice-prez candidate Geraldine Ferraro was a b*tch ("it rhymes with witch"). And of course the Bush daughters with their false IDs, underage drinking and being rude to reporters. COmpare them to the maturity of Amy Carter and Chelsea Clinton.

Has there ever been a first family so non-representative of Family Values??? It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't claim to promote it. But as things stand, they are the most hypocritcal First Family of my lifetime. The again, why should I be surprised by the contradiction? After all, Bush calls himself "the Education President" Hahahaha!!! What a joke. A sad sad joke.

Posted by: sdc | June 3, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

RE: the above message about Bush sexually harrassing Germany's first female Chancellor, Angela Merkel, here's a link. Watch poor Merkel's face. Keep in mind that this is the G-8 Summit -- a meeting of the world's most powerful leaders. It is NOT an informal event. The world's press was watching. Furthermore, it was in Russia, not Bush's own country. God, Bush is such an embarrassment. The Europeans have known it for a long time (one German politician called him "an idiot"). Americans have finally realized it too.

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/Bush_massages_German_Chancellor_Merkel_at_0718.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fQpknKPnV8

Posted by: peter | June 3, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Chreney's just doing his bit to normalize the politics of insult. He's pushing the envelope that future candidates will float in. I mean, we are talking about the author of "So?" and yet cruder epithets. This is just Cheney as Dennis Miller. Plenty of yucks in Freeperville. Dick: he's such a card.

It's been a successful right-wing fascist tactic for decades.

Posted by: JMarra | June 3, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

Tasteless remarks under the guise of humor.? Hmm. I wonder if they are just as funny when they are turned on tricky Dick? I have lived in a mobile home, so I'll take his comment as full license to try completely inappropriate jokes that aren't funny, but hey I'm stupid, uneducated and don't known any better right? What's Dick's excuse other than the fact that he sprung from Satan's loins?

Say what you will about Dick Cheney but he has completed one important function as Vice-President: shooting lawyers.

The NRA should be quick to point out that guns don't shoot people. Dick Cheney shoots people.

Inbreeding jokes by elitists go together like Republicans and lesbian daughters.

Hey Dick-are you done raping America yet or do you intend to pay for her services with Halliburton stock at some point? Ha ha. That's funny right there, I don't care who you are.

Posted by: goober | June 3, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Strangely, if Cheney's comment would have been related to race, gender, or religion, this would have been a big deal. Truthfully, I find the comment offensive because it is generalizing a large group (in this case, a state). Why is it ok to poke fun at the expense of West Virginians?

Some of the abovementioned comments are baffling to me. For the record, this is a topic of conversation in West Virginia today. It may come as a shock to some people that a large portion of the state can: 1) read, 2) comprehend the same things people from other states can, and 3) go to college (and even...gasp...get doctorates). Did you know West Virginians have running water and high speed internet access? Did you know that not every part of the state drives pick up trucks with confederate flags and shops exculsively at Wal-Mart? Of course not, because many of you took the lazy way out and allowed yourself to fall for a stereotype that is not entirely accurate.

I am, in fact, a born-and-raised West Virginian. I went to college, studied abroad in Europe, and managed to obtain two bachelors degrees and a masters by the age of 25 (currently working on my doctorate). My parents are unrelated, highly educated individuals. I am not an anomaly or an isolated incident. Now, I have a job at a relatively prestigious institution on Capitol Hill. Shockingly, those who meet me cannot tell I'm from West Virginia until I point it out to them--which I proudly do. Why? Because while my state has done some stupid things (2000, 2004...) and may not think or act the same as others, they are kind, hardworking, humble people. I can't exactly say the same thing for those I am surrounded by in the DC area.

When you hear the same tired stereotype your entire life, it gets a very old. Put yourself in my shoes, you probably wouldn't find it funny if you were me.

Posted by: Kit | June 3, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family ..."

Just to make one thing clear: having members of the same family in both the mother's and father's families is much more likely due to the marriage of cousins than incest (which is the marriage of siblings).

Marriages between first cousins (people with the same grandparents) is legal in about 20 states. Marriages between 2nd cousins (people with the same great grandparents) is legal in all states.

Marriages between 2nd and 3rd (or 4th, 5th, etc.) cousins are very common, especially in rural areas and small towns. Especially if people don't have the opportunity to travel far from home and family. If families stay in one area for a long time, and if they are restricted to marrying people of the same race and religion, then it's very likely that cousins will get married.

Posted by: Ted | June 3, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it's a joke on WV. Wow, that's something new.

If everyone looks back in their family history, they will probably find an incident that is suspect (possible incest), as Dick found out here. Let alone that the most famous family in the world has been inbred for years - the royal family.

I am proud to be from West Virginia and I take all of your jokes to mean that you are envious not to take pride in your origins.

That is your problem not mine, you ignorant swines.

Posted by: A. L. | June 3, 2008 9:42 AM | Report abuse

"West" Virginia isn't even a real state.

Posted by: duh | June 3, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I am from WV and I chuckled at the joke. In fact, the best incest jokes I have heard I heard in the used to be beautiful, strip mined mountain state.

Everyone just needs to take a deep breath and move on. The real threat to WV are comments like, "I didn't vote for him 'cuz he's from that other race that we have so much trouble with.", or, "He's a Muslim and I have a problem with that.", or " His name is Hussein and we've had enough of that." All comments from WV democratic voters after the primary.

Let's please get our priorities sorted out.

Posted by: K. Stuart | June 3, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong. WEST VIRGINIA, MOUNTAIN MAMMA, TAKE ME HOME, COUNTRY ROADS. In all the travels of the daughter of an oil man and spouse of military career man, I never felt so peaceful as when I lived in W.V.
Almost heaven!!!!!

Posted by: becusican | June 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Country roads, take me home, to the place I belong. WEST VIRGINIA, MOUNTAIN MAMMA, TAKE ME HOME, COUNTRY ROADS. In all the travels of the daughter of an oil man and spouse of military career man, I never felt so peaceful as when I lived in W.V.
Almost heaven!!!!!

Posted by: becusican | June 3, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Get a sense of humor! You keep electing Byrd for office (is he still alive?) What's the West Virginia slogan now? Is it "Open for Business"? Sounds like a brothel! And the Democrats let something like a joke get them fired up? Get a new slogan. What was wrong with "Wild, Wonderful West Virginia"? It's a beautiful state. Lived there most of my life but I have opened by eyes regarding politics and do not just think what Byrd tells me to think.

Posted by: Prysock Virginia | June 3, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

i am from wv, from now on i believe everyone should identify which state they are from before they make their comments. This is a great way to evaluate where ignorance is festering. Also, I don't care about jokes, every state has jokes made about, people should to calm down. I would rather you take a shot at the entire state, than take shots at individuals. I just can't believe people do not have better things to do than comment on this website all day. I feel bad I sat hear and read this thread. Oh well, I guess people who make fun of WV are right, I am from WV and I was foolish enough to read and resond to this rubbage.

Posted by: jeff | June 3, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

WHAT A LOW LIFE SCUM OF THE EARTH!

UNCALLED FOR!

http://www.vicepresidenetdickcheney.com

http://www.myspace.com/vicepresidentdickcheney

FROM A PROUD WEST VIRGINIA CITIZEN!

Posted by: ceo@vicepresidenetdickcheney.com | June 3, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I cannot believe all the comments on this page. I am a West Virginian and am deeply offended that our VP would publicly make such a comment about the people from my state. I am a West Virginian who DID want change and did NOT vote for the Bush/Cheney duo. I think the comments made by several here, that found the joke humorous and "point-scoring", just prove that all the idiots are not from West Virginia, they are from all over this great nation. Ignorance is bliss for you fine folks that appreciate Cheney's rude comment.

Posted by: Jenni | June 3, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

WV rules.
The sleuth is a joke. They post an article about cheney's inappropriate comment directed toward an entire state, but when I write my oppinion about DICK cheney it gets censored.

"We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site."

Looks like the sleuth should step up on cheney's comments and remove them from the site.

Posted by: RJ | June 3, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

The only reason that this is offensive is because the truth hurts.

Posted by: Denny | June 3, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

First, i would like to start by saying that as the former Miss West Virginia National Teenager 2007,and as a regualr West Virginia resident, I am HIGHLY offended by the remarks made be Vice President Cheney and most of the others who have posted comments on here-- saying we, as West Virginians, are too stupid to even pick up on it, or "oh it was no joke". And you people wonnder what is wrong with today's world--LOOK AT YOU! You all sterotype bases on a REGION of the country?! Well guess what, I COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD TO BE FROM WEST VIRGINIA! And let me remind you that the men and women in this state are serving FOR YOU oversees. They HAVE served and will CONTINUE to serve everytime needed. It amazes me that people can be so immature, as ADULTS, to continue with these ridiculous comments and insults. You want to see a "hick", go to ANY state, out in the middle of nowhere, and you'll find one. And incase anyone forgot, West Virginia was Virginia at one time...I do not see anyone ragging on Virginia. Someone explain that one to me. I would just like to conclude by saying that some of the nicest, m ost generous people you would EVER meet live in this beautiful state. Some are not as fortunate as others, but even still they would give their last slice of bread to someone in need. I have traveled all through the state and my father's family is from the middle of the state. I have seen it all, and yes, it may be different, but who the hell is in ANY position to joke and make fun of our people's ways?! And the whole incest thing? Come on people, seriously, do you not have anything better to do with your time?
The next time before you go to rag on WV, stop and make sure your own state's clean.
This is the problem with today's world: everyone is so judgemental and we judge a book by its cover before actually reading into it. I pray that one day people are as open-minded and warm and friendly as they once were.

Eva Smith
Miss West Virginia National Teenager 2007
MOUNTAINEER BORN, MOUNTAINEER RAISED, I'LL BE A MOUNTAINEER EVEN TO MY GRAVE!
I AM A PROUD MOUNTAINEER

Posted by: Miss Teen West Virginia | June 3, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

V.P. Cheney must feel absolutely humiliated to be chastized and lectured by Sen. Byrd, an admitted former member of the Ku Klux Klan unanimously elected Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. Apparently the title was a precursor of the Senator's career long lack of depth perception. Time has rendered him even more humorless.

Posted by: Robert | June 3, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Guess the washington post doesn't have the guts to print my opinion -- not surprising.

I simply compared the conduct of WV people with that of a certain pseudo celebrity who has done nothing of value except show her ignorance on a reality tv show and her lack of class on a homemade naughty video. I guess that was enough to get me censored.

The difference is that you can make fun of WV because they are a poor state overall. You can't make fun of rich people. Even if their behavior warrants it. Oh well, so much for the first amendment at the washington post. Not that I actually expected they cared about free speech -- but it would have been nice to be pleasantly surprised. Perhaps one day ...

Posted by: scarlett | June 3, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

read more on this article at http://www.1984usa.com/

Posted by: George Washington | June 3, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I think I recall more incest reported in Texas....have any of those making such comments ever been to West Virginia? It is a beautiful state full of intelligent professional people. Every state has rural areas where we can find uneducated and ignorant people.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

i've personally met some degenerate chinless redneck white trash west virginia incestuous hick kidnappers.

Posted by: www.mentaldisorder.com | June 3, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone bother to read the offensive quote? Here it is:

"So I had Cheneys on both sides of the family and we don't even live in West Virginia," Cheney quipped.

Cheney is saying his own family is incestuous. He insults his own family and himself. How is that offensive to Mountaineers? The journalists totally twisted a self-deprecating joke into an insult of West Virginians. Sadly the Mountaineers accepted the press corps' version hook, line, and sinker. Now that's the joke.

It just proves that West Virginians are all a bunch of Homo sapiens.

Posted by: BadgerOne | June 3, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Definition of Proxy Apology!!
1) Not worth my time
2) Not sincere

Posted by: Nick L | June 3, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Some of the comments I am reading on here just shows the ignorance of those who are posting them. West Virginians cant read, PLEASE! I received a first rate education because the teachers in WV actually CARE about the students they teach. I moved to Maryland a few years back and talk about people who cant read or write, or drive for that matter. As far as incest, I lived in WV for the first twenty years of my life and never once have I ever met anyone that was a product of incest. As a matter of fact, most of my relatives work for the federal government in DC. Yes parts of WV are that close. There is good clean living there and good people. I wonder if any one of you have ever even been to WV! If you had been, you certainly wouldnt have posted your ignorant remarks. Judging people simply by the state where they live is almost as bad as judging another person by the color of their skin. Have some class. As for the Cheney remark, it is completely inappropriate and insensitive and a man of his status should have more respect.

Posted by: WV AND PROUD | June 3, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Some of the comments I am reading on here just shows the ignorance of those who are posting them. West Virginians cant read, PLEASE! I received a first rate education because the teachers in WV actually CARE about the students they teach. I moved to Maryland a few years back and talk about people who cant read or write, or drive for that matter. As far as incest, I lived in WV for the first twenty years of my life and never once have I ever met anyone that was a product of incest. As a matter of fact, most of my relatives work for the federal government in DC. Yes parts of WV are that close. There is good clean living there and good people. I wonder if any one of you have ever even been to WV! If you had been, you certainly wouldnt have posted your ignorant remarks. Judging people simply by the state where they live is almost as bad as judging another person by the color of their skin. Have some class. As for the Cheney remark, it is completely inappropriate and insensitive and a man of his status should have more respect.

Posted by: WV AND PROUD | June 3, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

After reading the comment here it is obvious that most of you have the IQ of a snail and that is being generous. The fact that the "Vice President" of the United States made the joke at all is patently offensive. But again, it just goes to show you what kind of people we have running this country. Did you ever think that either of them gave one dame bit about the American People? NO, their only concern is Money and Power. Those of you that join in and make further jokes do nothing more then prove your own ignorance and stupidity. Leave it to the Repugnants.

Posted by: Kevin | June 3, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The sad thing is that most of the bigots who left comments on here that are in agreement with that ugly, atrocious, hateful man's views on people that voted for his sorry ass probably consider themselves so-called "liberals."
I apologize for an overly lengthy and complicated sentence. But, having grown up in Appalachia, I guess I'm just not as smart as some of y'all.
By the way, if I was to ever to meet this Louis Michael Mount I would confirm the steretype regarding the hillbilly's proensity for violence.

Posted by: Bob | June 3, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Dearest Dick:

In light of your recent comments made during a recent National Press Club speech, I personally find your remarks utterly disgusting and downright unacceptable. And you know what, Mr. Richard "DICK" Cheney? Contrary to popular belief, not all people from West Virginia are inbred, and many in our state would and could intelligently mediate my sentiments. Yes, I have heard all the jokes before, and over the years, have even partaken in slinging a few myself. I am from West Virginia, and sometimes one is forced to laugh at oneself for fear of crying. West Virginia, at times, leaves much to be desired, but nonetheless, it is the place I call home. BUT here exists ONE BIG difference: I am NOT the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Would I expect any more of you? No, but that is besides the point. As I stated, you are in a high position of power, this fact which you obviously and blatantly continue to take as a joke, your comments being completely deplorable. Your attempt at humor was ill-advised, and the fact that you had a "spokeswoman" issue an "apology" exposes the obvious truth that you are an unworldly, vile coward. Do you not have the the time, or more accurately, the courage, to come out and PERSONALLY admit that your comments were inappropriate at best? I didn't think so. I do understand that there exist matters at hand much more important than the issue I address, but your continuing insensitive actions speak volumes towards your incompetence as a public official. In lock-step with your previous response to a question posed by an interviewer regarding the heartfelt view of a majority of the American people, in reference to our severe opposition to the continuing, seemingly endless war in Iraq (Cheney responded, "So?"), that of which exists solely as a business decision for which you continue to be handsomely rewarded monetarily, I further call for your impeachment on the grounds that you, sir, are obviously yourself the direct product of inbreeding. Comments like the aforementioned could only possibly erupt from a human being with such inept social skills as yourself. You make me SICK. If you were looking to further push the buttons of the citizens of American, to symbolically SPIT in the faces of West Virginians, and to further display your complete and unmitigated inadequacies as a Vice President, you have done so. And to think I was so close in surrendering my own personal efforts in the fight to make you held accountable for crimes conducted while in office. You, in one fail swoop, with one more distasteful, revolting, unsophisticated comment, have drummed up an anger in me I have not experienced since yesterday. In response to my outrage, I could imagine you would probably, strike that, most definitely would, respond to my disdain with another insensitive, taunting comment such as "Touched a nerve, eh?", or some other asinine commentary along these lines. And I would continue to not be surprised. You have demonstrated, particularly prevalent over the course of the last few years, that you have no regard toward others and their feelings. There is so much more I could say, concerning the senseless deaths of our honorable soldiers in Iraq, the state of the economy that your administration so gleefully praises as "stronger than ever", and the repugnant, vile stream of propaganda that continues to pour from the encrusted lips of yourself and your minions, but I will leave it at that. We all know how bad the situation is, and we are exhausted. With all this, sir, I respectfully wish upon you one more severe and painful heart attack, only this time, I hope it squeezes the last bit of life force from that fat, bloated head of yours, the life energies which I severely doubt you possessed in the first place. In your defense, I do believe that you do possess a soul, and Lucifer is about to reclaim what is his. Good riddance, DICK, and I hope you enjoy an eternal life in Hell. May a swarm of a billion locusts gnaw the last bits of fat from your stubby, minute fingers as you attempt to pen the lies you will call your legacy in a book deal surely made in Hell.

Sincerely yours,

E. Scott Blair
Four States, West Virginia

Posted by: E. Scott Blair | June 3, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Cheney sounds a lot like what many of Obama's supporters have been saying. Are they truly Republicans disguising themselves as Democrats?

Posted by: Tree Hugger | June 3, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know where the people on this page that made the hateful and ignorant comments were educated, and where they were raised, because most of the people in West Virginia were taught respect and manners growing up!! I live in West Virginia. I am educated, I have children and their father is nor my brother or my cousin!! Oh and another thing I voted for Hilary too!

Posted by: Angie | June 3, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Well now the "good folk" of WV know what their beloved Dickie and his acolytes from the Republicoward Party really think of them........will it matter - not in the least, those fools will go ahead and vote for the senile old fart and idiots like Shelley Moron Capito.
West virginia and its people DESERVE the mess that's being made of their state - it's what they wanted judging by their votes for Dickless Cheney in 2000 and 2004

Posted by: Bob | June 3, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

To WV and Proud. your whining about people being wrong to criticize WV without ever being in the State is hilarious
I'd be curious to know what % of people from WV have ever been to Iraq or anywhere in the Mid East. I'd bet that it's less than 5% yet it sure as hell doesn't stop those inbreeding rednecks referring to people from Iraq and the Mid East as terrorists
If you don't like poeple telling the truth about your cesspit of a stste maybe you "good folk" from WV should quit telling lies about people from other places

Posted by: Bob | June 3, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

For all you out there that says West Virgianians arent smart enough to know an insult. Its idiots like you that are making this country look bad. I bet you have never even been to the mountain state. All you people out there saying stuff about this state are idiots. Your nothing but trash. It wasnt only WV that put them in office anyways. Why not say stuff about FL they didnt even know how to vote!

Posted by: Sarah | June 3, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia bigots are dumb and it went over their head.

Posted by: Dixie Chick Fan | June 2, 2008 5:57 PM
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I'd say that's wishful thinking on the part of diehard republicans. They are so used to forcing their views on the American people and had to learn the hard way that Americans are thoroughly fed up with them and their ignorant gestapo methods. Watch it, Cheney will shoot your face off!

Posted by: Insider | June 3, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Cheney was a little too East - the inbreeding comes from Kentucky, not W.Va. Any true humorist knows this very discernable fact - just goes to show that not only is he totally incapable of leading a country, he can't even get humor right. Give it up DICK, you and that bald HEAD have nothing more to contribute to this country....
"It is better to appear stupid and keep your mouth shut, than to open it and remove all doubt"
-Mark Twain

So befitting....

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

As a west virginian, it is good to know that dick cheney is not from here. as for the idiot named oddball and the all the others who think it's funny, you probably, which is even worse, voted for cheney.

Posted by: dw | June 3, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I get so tired of West Virginia being the whipping boy of the nation regarding disparaging jokes and prejudice. We are the last vestige for the politically incorrect wise ass. No one cares if West Virginia is insulted. Well, I do.
If this were another more liberal and moneyed state or city being insulted, you can bet there would be much more of an uproar.
Vashti's post (above) briefly recounts the abuses heaped upon the land and people of West Virginia by big money interests as they have wrecked our state. We have a long history of this, inherited from a couple of centuries, and perhaps that is why people think of us as ignorant.
As a general reaction, I think people from West Virginia just ignore such comments as Cheney's, since we are so accustomed to it.

Posted by: pattywolford | June 3, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I will be so happy when the ignorant thugs, Cheney and Bush are out of office. They have been a plague on this nation and the world and should be led away in orange jumpsuits and handcuffs on their last day.

I voted for these two morons and have regretted it every day since.

Posted by: Observer | June 3, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

I am a proud liberal from California and I have the highest regard for West Virginia and look forward to visiting your wonderful "Mountain State" in the near future. Please don't take the posters on this board seriously. The people that post hateful things just like to cause mischief for some reason. I personally have met people like that . I wish I knew what caused people to behave this way so we can stop it from re-occuring. The Vice-President has set a very bad example for too long. Hopefully when he and the current President are gone, this country will right itself again. I salute West Virginia. By the way, I DO have a sense of humor. I just don't think MEAN-SPIRITED insults are funny. And if there is one thing the Vice-President is, it's mean-spirited.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

As a proud West Virginian by birth and now a proud Mississippian by the grace of God, I can sympathize with both states which are all too often the victims of untrue, stereotypical jokes. Both states are home to upright, patriotic and intelligent people who don't deserve to be insulted, either by the Vice-president of the United States or the ignorant of any state. However, what's wrong with driving a pickup truck and going to Wal-Mart????

Posted by: Proper Lady | June 3, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

When I heard Cheney's comment, it felt like he had slapped my face. The comment hurt me deeply. I have lost all respect for the man. I held nothing against the man until now. I can tell my grand-children how Cheney was an ignorant vice-president. He better never run for an office and expect West Virginians to vote for him. His nickname, "Dick," describes him perfectly. Oh yeah, and him talking about his genealogy. We know what what his mother was since he is a S - O - B. Yeah, I can say that since I'm not up for re-election.

Posted by: WV Citizen | June 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey! give Cheney a break, he said he was sorry. I am sure he talked really slow & used little words so he would be understood by the locals.

Posted by: turtleboy66 | June 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Any time that any person makes a generalized statement to support a stereotype it's not funny. Especially when that person is an elected official.

Posted by: alwaysfree | June 3, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I can see the ignorant commment that Cheney made brought uneducated rats out of the woodwork. Where are those religous compounds that house inbreds.. oh, that's in Texas, and Arizona.
My line of work is in sales, and I find it astounding that people of the United States still think West Virginia's capital is Richmond. Just shows you how uneducated American's are, and how low they stoop to redicule their sister state.

Posted by: Cindy | June 3, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Cheney's comment neither surprises or angers me. I have no regard for anything he says. I have known for 8 years that he is a jerk and a stooge for Halliburton. What angers me is all the laughter in the background at the press club. These are the people that incense me. They are the ones who think they have to kiss up to politicians and make them feel that that are so clever. Wake up, we put the jerks there!! Why do they intimidate you so? We can also get them out as well--at the polling places. It's too late for him, but there are lots of Senators and Congressmen who are as much to blame as Cheney and Bush. They can be dealt with in November by pushing a tiny button.

Posted by: Judy Garlic | June 3, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm from the great state of West Virginia. West Virginians are not dumb. They are not inbred and these 'jokes' certainly do not go unnoticed. I've traveled the country and the world and I've never met so many hard working, honest, sincere people who are proud to be where they're from as I've met in West Virginia. We are people who, despite all the 'jokes' and all the degrading comments made about us over the years, hold our heads high and continue to say that we're proud to be from West Virginia; as we should. It's a beautiful state with beautiful people. We are not illiterate or politically ignorant. (After all, we have two of the most succesful senators of all time.) We don't have fancy, metropolitan areas or huge skyscrapers towering above over-crowded streets filled with impatient people who are always in a hurry to get somewhere. What we do have is a sense of community, appreciation for the simple and innocent pleasures in life, a respect for the land we live on and the people who live on it, and a strong will to fight for what we have and what we believe in. So say what you will about West Virginia and its people, but at the end of the day, YOU are the one who is ignorant and uneducated. Don't speak about a subject of which you have no knowledge.

Posted by: Tia | June 3, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Here's my take on this: I've read most of the comments posted. First of all, I'm surprised most of these people even know that West Virginia is a state. I work in telebanking, and every time I talk to people from the west coast and they find out I work in West Virginia, they always ask how far I am from Virginia Beach (about 7 hours driving time, or they had friends in Virginia once-how far am I from Richmond, etc. Second, the incest we get pinned on us occurs in about 3 out of 55 counties. Third, at least we have a lower rate of black teenagers that can't keep it in their pants creating welfare babies than New York, Georgia, Florida, and Mississippi. Finally, my take on this comment by Cheney is that he's nothing but a white-livered coward. He could make the insulting statement by himself, yet he hides behind his spokeswoman to make his apology. Come on Mr. Cheney, you need to grow a set and make your apologies the way you made your comments-in person. And while you're at it-make a trip to West Virginia to make your apology-there are a lot of people who would, undoubtedly, like to see you.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Let me preface my comment with the statement that I am NEVER in agreement with Dick Cheney. But enough with the PC already. It was a funny joke.

Posted by: Kevin in Houston | June 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I think West Virginians should unite and file a class action lawsuit against Cheney for defamation. He's getting rich from the oil companies; it's about time he gives back to a state that has seen nothing but hardship and job loss lately.

Posted by: Anon | June 3, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Oh I get it now it's a joke like when we tell one liners about blacks with basketball, chicken and watermelon; Mexicans with yardwork, and the Irish with fighting and drinking!

It sickens me that as an American first anyone would say that Cheney's comments are a joke - perfectly acceptable - and that we should move on. His comments aren't acceptable in any public office in the U.S. I would blast any public official that were to suggest it, and I think the next person I meet that tells me an incest joke, I'm going to punch out.

Unfortunately, the VP's comments typify the idiot voting population in the rest of America that couldn't find WV on a map and really only cares about who won American Idol. The sad truth is that you're the idiots.

It's a shame the country is so divided - I think it's time for a serious revolution.

Posted by: Justajoke | June 3, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

And the worst part is after the joke, when he said "you can say those things when your not running for re-election." He has such a pompous sense of entitlement, he always has.

Posted by: Ann McMillan | June 3, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

This joke apparently upset Senator Byrd. Do you know what else makes Senator Byrd angry? Missegenation.

Posted by: Timothy | June 3, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

You know what makes West Virginian's angry? Illiteracy. It's spelled 'miscegenation.' Byrd is not a racist. Maybe he was when he was younger when he was told that was right. He grew up in a different time. Have you never made a mistake? He's certainly not a bigot now, today, which is what matters - the present. He's apologized and admitted his mistake. In fact, he's said the kkk was the 'biggest mistake' he's ever made. He was in his early twenties and completely impressionable. He's an old, intelligent, passionate man now...who, by the way, has endorsed Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

This was a simple joke that meant absolutely no harm and honestly it was very humourous. Maybe the folks that took offense are actually walking both sides of the salad bar

Posted by: Steve Dumont | June 3, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I just wanted everyone to know that it is legal for 1st cousins to get married in Maryland and Virginia. However it is not allowed in West Virginia. So to me it sounds like MD and VA have a very shallow gene pool. Most of the follish remarks on this thread prove my case. Remeber what was once said about rocks and glass houses.

Posted by: Andrew | June 3, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Several people have jumped to the conclusion that because Dick Cheney had Cheney ancestors from two lines, his forebears must have committed incest. Not so: Even if the Cheneys on both sides sprang from a common ancestor, it was so many generations earlier that it could not remotely be considered incest. Cheney's paternal ancesters, after settling in America, migrated by stages across the northern United States eventually to Wyoming, while the other Cheneys that Lynne Cheney discovered were a Maryland family that migrated to the United States in the 1600s. So that's maybe 250 years -- 10 generations -- before the two Cheney lines met and merged in the persons of Dick Cheney's grandparents. Therefore, if the two lines were from two brothers that migrated from England to widely separated parts of America, the grandparents of Cheney would have been about 10th cousins.

Posted by: reedlandj | June 3, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

sorry about the typo above I meant to say foolish.

Posted by: Andrew | June 3, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

So what!? Let's concentrate on those things that are important. Remember? Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Get on with life, guys!!

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

The remarks found on the "comments" section of page are 10X more offense than what Cheney said. He'll do well to appologize as he should, as for the rest of the comments found on here, they're disgraceful. WV voted Republican that last two times because dems run uber-libs disguised dems. The people of WV aren't interested in San Francisco values, and therefore vote republican. Half of these idiot posts are from people who've most likely never traveled further than their own liberal epicenter like NYC or SanFran.

Posted by: WV MIKE | June 3, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Apologize for what? It was a joke. Unless, it hit home for you, personally?????? Doesn't anyone laugh at themselves any more????

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

We all live in the same United States. Why should anyone in WV be prejudiced again some in NY or CA? Makes no sense to me.

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Oops.......... I mean against. not "again". Guess it was the southern coming' out in me.

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I've read entirely too many posts with people saying....They probably don't even know their being picked on becaue they're too dumb or can't read. Pompus arrogance that equals Cheney or anyone else who thinks "I'm so cultured because I live in highly populated state" What does that have to do with anything?

Posted by: WV MIKE | June 3, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Out w/ the old, in with the new!!! Just goes to show the republican mentality, step on whoever you have to in order to better your own agenda! I've made the switch...You can too....OBAMA 08'!!!

Posted by: Wv3Obama | June 3, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I'm from WV.

It's a joke. I don't take it personally, I don't know anyone that does.

But it does show how little class Cheney has as a person and as a politician.

Posted by: Jason | June 3, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely nothing. Where in the world did you come up with that?

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Just like all politicians. It's the nature of the beast.

Posted by: Shirley | June 3, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, as an educated intelligent person, who was raised in WV and moved to NY, I can assure all of you that I "got the joke" and understand that it was supposed to be a joke and that you're supposed to laugh it off. However, I find it offensive and appalling that an elected leader in such a high-profile role, would use such a stupid, stereotypical, untruth to get a laugh. Even if I wasn't from WV I would not have thought it was that funny! Regardless of his politics, his stature as an influential public figure makes this remark unacceptable!

Posted by: WV in NY | June 3, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

So I guess it's fair to say that the Don Imus "nappy" comment shouldn't have been taken offensively either???

This is ridiculous. A public official should not make such derogatory remarks.

Posted by: Jenni | June 3, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, the joke was hilarious. I hate Cheney's guts but his comment made me laugh, even though it is indeed highly inappropriate from an executive official.

Posted by: Daniel | June 3, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

It would have been funnier if he said Arkansas because the Clintons are from there. Although, I think they would be able to take a joke.

Posted by: Casey | June 3, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm moving to West Virginia for free sxx. All I need to do is tell how much of a relative I'm and then ditto!!

Posted by: Sue | June 3, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Umm, yeah, I'm sure that all of the West Virginians who voted for Bush/Cheney twice REALLY thought that the Republicans hated them and wouldn't do anything for their state, I mean, that's why you would vote for a president and vice president, right? And I'm also sure that they thought VP Cheney would make a stupid remark like that about WV someday, right? Contrary to what some of you may think, West Virginians are concerned about their state, are informed about politics, and know who they want to represent them. Also, they've consistently had Democratic governors, and I think they're waiting for a decent Democratic candidate to vote for again for president. Of course, I wouldn't expect some of the types of people who made postings here to understand that. Does it make you feel better to belittle and disrespect others? Please seek help for your own insecurities. Seriously, why don't you all just let WV be upset about the comment? Why do you care anyway, if you're not from the state? Obviously most of you have your very true, and I'm sure, researched "opinions" set about WV anyway, so just leave them alone. I don't think most West Virginians are upset because the comment was from Dick Cheney...I think that they are mostly upset because they are tired of hearing the same old, ignorant remarks from people who have no idea what the state is about (including a lot of the people in these postings)and then have to deal with other ignorant remarks again and again until this blows over.

Posted by: Openminded--try it | June 3, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I thought it was funny. Everyone who doesn't needs to get over themselves.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Again...do not expect you to understand.

Posted by: Openminded--try it | June 3, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Come on people, stop taking it so seriously, this isn't journalism it's Mary Ann Akers getting her rocks off on her keyboard.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

At the rate this country is going, its just a matter of time before people are going to have to find ways to provide for their loved ones.Being a dumb old WV hick I take pride in knowing that I can feed my family by raising a garden or by shooting wild game.Keep in mind the last fresh meat that Dick shot was another mans ass.

Posted by: A.M. | June 3, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Please, some of the comments made in here by a bunch of idiots, yes idiots, are ridiculous. I am a native born West Virginian, have a master's degree and still live in West Virginia. West Virginians are not dumb, incestuous, or illiterate, as it appears other states do. Just for the record, many people from other states don't even realize that West Virginia is a state and not Western Virginia. Get a clue, get a better education, and stop being stupid. Dick Cheny is a moron, end of story. So are the people who made insults to West Virginia here.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Alot of West Virginians would like to take the VP duck hunting...Im a republican and a West Va. native, and Im ashamed of both he and Pres. Bush, certainly not of WV.

Posted by: Pam W | June 3, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I spoke with Hannity today on his talk radio show as I am a avid listner and asked what his thoughts were concerning the remark. You may hear the audio of his response here. I am proud to take up for West Virginia as it is a wonderful State it is growing economically and every time you walk outdoors it is like walking through a scenic land.
Can you say that about where you live!

Check out my http://www.dowestvirginia.com
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be sure to sign up to our myspace to support being a proud WV citizen

WHY is it democrats comments are made out to be so horrible yet when a republican states anything out of the (norm) it is swept under the counter!

http://www.vicepresidentdickcheney.com

They have also since started a thread on hannity.com forums and many people are very hateful & bashing our great State.

Posted by: Michellefromwv | June 3, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Seriously: The ONE innocent thing that Cheney makes in eight years in office (namely the oldest WV joke there is), and THAT's what he apologizes for????

I have a list with items that would seem to demand more attention re: apologizing to the American People... alas, the priorities of the VP must not be similarly aligned to those I have.

Posted by: rune | June 3, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I hear that one of the genetic defects from inbreeding is a profound loss of sense of humor; the other is the ability to be trolled mercilessly by comments in a public blog...

:P

PS: For you WV posters, have fun at your next family reunion -- who knows, you might find your soulmate!!


Posted by: TrollingFromNYC | June 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

re: MichellefromWV:

If you are trying to show the non-incest side of WV, is it really a wise choice to name your website/video "Do West Virginia"?

Or open with a selection on "Pricketts Park"? :-)

Posted by: rune | June 3, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

I am a native of Michigan, and presently reside in Virginia. I spent about 5 years in West Virginia, and yes, we certainly had our share of uneducated RedNecks...just like most any state has. However, I have never been treated better, before or since, than I was treated by the good people of W.Va. and I knew of no one there who was from an incestial relationship. Cheney's comment was offensive..Cheney is offensive... While it shrinks in importance to the W.Virginian lives that have been lost in this illegal war of his, it is good that the people of WV get a chance to see what the people that they have supported think of them when they are not out campaigning for their votes.

Posted by: waynep | June 3, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

idiot

Posted by: lara | June 3, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

West Virginiea born and pruod of it! I neer even kissed my sister and you west coaost guys make out with guys, and you ain't even outdoors campin and shootin thaings.

Dick made a funny and you get all rilled up. We mutineers have a great sence of humir. God Bless Ameraca! Good Bliss Dick Cheney!

Posted by: BohicaBob | June 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

TO BOB
I am not sure what percent of West Virginians have been to Iraq, but I am sure it is comparable to other states. As a matter of fact, my husband is a Staff Sgt. in the US ARMY and has had THREE deployments to Iraq as have many of my classmates and relatives. So get your facts straight before you make your ignorant comments. Not that it has ANYTHING to do at all with Cheney's comment. By the way, learn how to spell and punctuate before you post blogs knocking on West Virginians, you made yourself look really stupid.

Posted by: WV and Proud | June 3, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it what is the joke he just made a true statement.

Posted by: Confuzed in Wheeling | June 3, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I AM FROM WV AND IT UPSETS ME NO MATTER WHO SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT MY HOME STATE. WHO IS THIS CHANEY ?IF HE IS REALLY THE VICE- PRESIDENT HE HAS NOT DONE MUCH.

Posted by: FLO WHITE | June 3, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Can't we all just get along?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

This administration, while spending an inordinate amount of it's time patting itself on the back, is truly and genuinely abysmal. The disgrace of an entire nation. I believe the President and the Vice President have done more to wound this Graet Nation than even Osama Bin Laden did on 09/11/01. History will reflect that and we, the American People, have to live with that festering wound. By the way, a Byrd in the hand is worth at least two Bushes.

Posted by: PghDave | June 3, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

This administration, while spending an inordinate amount of it's time patting itself on the back, is truly and genuinely abysmal. The disgrace of an entire nation. I believe the President and the Vice President have done more to wound this Great Nation than even Osama Bin Laden did on 09/11/01. History will reflect that and we, the American People, have to live with that festering wound. By the way, a Byrd in the hand is worth at least two Bushes.

Posted by: PghDave | June 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

To ODDBALL... sorry to disappoint you... but WE West Virginians do know when we have been insulted.
I am sure that if something has been said about your state, you would be insulted too...
Or maybe not.

Posted by: Trayne | June 3, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Three cheers for our governor, Joe Manchin, and Senators Rockefeller and Byrd! Sen. Byrd's response displays a level of tact and understated eloquence that is noticeably absent from the speech of certain other individuals...need I say more?

Posted by: wv rez | June 3, 2008 11:03 PM | Report abuse

TrollingfromNYC, I feel sorry for you in your severe ignorance. You need to get over yourself and what you THINK you know about West Virginia because I can pretty much guarantee that you know VERY LITTLE.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 3, 2008 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Rune, the asp-worshiper (yes they handle snakes at his church) DIDN'T apologize. He had someone do it for him. His contempt for America and the American people is so strong that he wouldn't even make the effort to look contrite.

Posted by: Blue | June 3, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I "am" from West Virginia. I "am" tired of the ignorant comments and jokes about my home (I've heard them all). That being said, what really bothers me is that the "elected" Vice President of our country feels that it is acceptable to make demeaning comments about any American, area or group. Adding insult to injury, he sent a "flunky" to make is apologies for him. All he has done is to verifying that he is arrogant, boorish, egotistical, big-headed, self-important and snobbish. He must surely be a very sad unhappy man who is coming face to face with the realization of where his place in history will be.

Posted by: Home in WV | June 4, 2008 12:12 AM | Report abuse

IT IS NOT LEGAL TO MARRY YOUR COUSIN IN WV! There are 21 states where 1st cousin marriages are permitted, Mass., Maryland and Virginia are included in those states, WV is NOT! West Virginia is no stranger to comments such as the one made by the Vice President, this one is different because CHENEY is SUPPOSED to be a leader of our nation. And, NO I didn't vote for him, I have never voted for a Republican candidate for president. I wonder if on the vice presidents next visit to The Greenbrier, he thinks about the comments that he has made about the very people who he has to depend on for his safety? You bashers - find out where your electricity comes from! If West Virginia stops mining coal, half of you wouldn't be surfing the web. What state contributes more and has ALWAYS contributed more soldiers to serve in the armed forces - West Virginia. If you have never been to West Virginia then please don't comment in a negative manner about us. If you do travel to our state and have a flat tire, someone will help you. A stranger will fix it for you, not charge you a penny and won't hit you in the head and take everything that you have. If you don't like our state, take your skis, canoes, bicycles, fishing poles, campers, motorcycles, etc. and go elsewhere. That is directed only to the bashers. All others are warmly welcomed to visit. We will treat you with the same respect that you give to us.

Posted by: Susan/WV Proud | June 4, 2008 12:37 AM | Report abuse

I incorrectly spelled miscegenation which is, I guess, a mistake a whole lot worse than joining the KKK.

Posted by: Timothy | June 4, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

Most people that bash WV have never been there before and have no clue what they're talking about because they're scum.

Posted by: lkj | June 4, 2008 2:01 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: r6ybzd2nuy | June 4, 2008 4:52 AM | Report abuse

Ok, I live in WV now, but I am not from here. Just for the record WV residents are not the only ones who hang out in a walmart parking lot, or the only ones who have pickup trucks with confederate flags. WV is not the only state with rednecks. WV rednecks, would be the first one to pull you out of the mud if you were stuck, change your tire if you had a flat. "you will find out who your friends are" just live in WV they are indeed some of the nicest people in america. It's just a shame that the whole state gets a bad rap for stupid mistakes ancestors made! Obviously WV is the least of the concerns, although everyone believes that WV people are dumb and cant read, becasue you know its a incest state. Maybe they should be more concerned with there own problems, becasue they are everywhere. After all Dick isnt from WV but he is still a inbreed. Look at the big picture and stop settling for the stuff you have heard and talk about the facts! Incest obviously happens everywhere. Stupid people, and those who cant read and write come from everywhere. I can promise you one thing, if you needed help with something, your neighbor in WV would give it to you if they could, no questions asked. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. I do believe Dr.Phil once said "Don't let you alligator mouth overload your hummingbird ass". Those are some words to live by, have a great day, and GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Cheney is an arrogant idiot. Remember he drunkenly (how else can you explain it) shot his friend in the face. I'm a staunch conservative and can't wait for these two (inc. Bush) war mongering oil money pimps to leave office.

Posted by: Phil (USA) | June 4, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

What if it was a joke about blacks or gays or catholic priests? Would the people who say it was just a joke still feel that way? This wasn't Chris Rock on a HBO special, this was our Vice President. Maybe he should have cracked a joke about how they kill homosexuals in his state of Wyoming. Obviously if they killed Matthew Sheppard then it means they all kill homosexuals....right?

Posted by: majoreer | June 4, 2008 7:23 AM | Report abuse

Cheney is quick to throw out jokes for someone who has "Cheneys'on both sides", hey maybe that's why his daughter turned out to be a lesbian. He shouldn't be the one throwing stones.

Posted by: Jon | June 4, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

wHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM THIS UNFEELING, POTENTIAL KILLER OF HIS FRIEND, THEIF, GREEDY MONEY HUNGRY ANIMAL. HIS VIEW OF W.VA., AND i AM CERTAIN, MANY OTHER STATES AS WELL AND PEOPLE WHO ARE HARD WORKING AND LOYAL TO THIS COUNTRY IS PAR FOR THE COURSE, -- WHO IS LOWER THAN A SNAKES A--
i DID NOT KNOW HE COULD TELL A JOKE HE IS UCH A MEAN AND ROTTEN POOR IMITATION OF A HUMANBEING. APPRIPOE TO HIS CHARACTER, HIS HUMOR IS PRETTY DAMM DISGUSTING

Posted by: LYNN PARKER | June 4, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Montani semper liberi ~ Mountaineers are always free. Because of the brave. In a state of 1.8 million residents, West Virginia has given 10,000 lives in service to our country, and is home to 200,000 veterans. Do the math (and don't forget to factor in family members at an average of 3 each).

Posted by: Anne Lieberman | June 4, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

He shouldn't joke about it because people have a hard time understanding that this is something that is ok, it is called sexual freedom people, get on the bandwagon, don't tell me I can't marry who I love

Posted by: WVrulz | June 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I am from West Virginia and I do not see anything wrong with marrying my cousin.And I an glad that Richard "The Dick" Cheney is not from my state.

Posted by: Al Zac | June 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Anne, it is kind of dishonest to say that soldiers have 3 family members a piece when a lot of those members overlap and I think you are counting wrong because you are claiming that WEst Virginia has lost more than twice the number of soldiers killed in Iraq and Iraq is the worst war in American history and has mostly hurt true progressive cities not the Armpit of America

Posted by: Mikey Joe Bob Lieberman | June 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I am glad to see all the coments here it is clear that incest in West Virginia is a much more important topic than an irresponsible congresswoman refusing to pay her bills and then helping to bankrupt America. Keep up the good work hill billies!

Posted by: Mary Ann Akers | June 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Cheney should not be concerned about the sexual preferences of us folks from West Virginia. The patriarch Jacob married his two first cousins Leah and Rachel in the Old Testament. What Cheney SHOULD be concerned about is that his own daughter Mary Cheney is following the homosexual/ lesbian path of Sodom and Gomorrah, and THAT is a sin. And I hear that Mary Cheney has a little bastard child, ie, a child born out of wedlock. Deuteronomy 23:2 says that a bastard shall not enter into the presence of the Lord, even unto the tenth generation. Think that over Darth Vader.

Posted by: Al Zach | June 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

He said hes inbred, and has a lesbian daughter, but makes jokes about a whole state. I didn't vote for him and I don't think WV was the only red State. And to the people that think this is funny, you are just like him, grow up!! Our country is in an awful state right now, yet some still glorify men like this. I know in history that Bush/Cheney will go down as failures, and they have ruined our countries name all over the world, they are making fun of us just as you all make fun of WV, so to the World we are one big joke, funny isn't it..

Posted by: Brenda | June 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

The depth of ignorance here is almost not worth commenting on, but I'll use small words so that the non West Virginians in the group can understand.

Knowing someone who works in the social work field, without exception, incest and sexual abuse transcends race, religion and socio-economic lines. Cheney didn't just insult (yawn) WV, but made light of an issue no one wants to talk about or even believe is a real problem.

In short, Cheney took at cheap and I should say worn-out shot at the Mountain State. Believe me, we have thick skin living here in this natural paradise; although Cheney and the coal companies are rapidly trying to destroy all that.

And, I'll put the talent and brains of West Virginians up against anyone. Our list of luminaries includes professionals in all fields, including Hollywood and sadly, Capitol Hill-where page boys are nervous.

Posted by: laughing at you | June 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I am from West Virginia but have lived in many different places over the course of my life. There is no place I would choose over West Virginia.

Being unable to distinguish between the great people of West Virginia treating each other like family and actuall being family by blood is a sure sign of ignorance.

I am sure that anyone on this site making the stupid comments about West Virginia would find that most people in West Virginia have more education and common sense than you do.

Thank God that you people are not from West Virginia. That would be the true shame! I am so proud to say you are not from my home state!

Posted by: Angie | June 4, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Lets be real here. No one was seriously offended. It's just another little opportunity to demean a Republican, which liberals do very well. Bird probably needed someone to explain the joke before his staff wrote a response for him.

Posted by: Tom | June 4, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Freedommmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: William Wallace | June 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I am offended because someone told me I should be offended and I like to be offended because it helps me not poop my pants.

Posted by: WV | June 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I grew up in va I can tell you the mountians and back woods of the little towns are full of kissn cousins and kids from them. Dont thnk i am right go to Natural Bridge ask about Back Run or Arnolds valley go to Glassgo Bedford Lexington Tazwell Bluefeild and do a little resurch you will find a cousin or two that have kids

Posted by: va2 | June 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I think that those of you commenting that the joke was funny and WVians should "lighten up" should be ashamed of yourselves. West Virginians are hardworking Americans who deserve some respect. You wouldn't have half the electricity your computers are running on right now if it wasn't for WV coal miners. I'm sure that even if you live in a state other than WV that you have poverty and whole other slew of problems that WV doesn't have to deal with.

West Virginians ARE smart enough to know when they've been slapped in the face. At least in WV we have manners and know better than to make such terrible jokes at the expense of others.

Posted by: Susan | June 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

As Jack Kennedy said of Richard Nixon nearly 50 years ago, so may we regardless of political affiliations now of Dick Cheney: "He has no taste."

No wonder he has a passion for, if not anonymity, surreptitiousness.

I too would be embarrassed to have the constant risk of exposing my true values and regard for the people of the country into whose vice-presidency I had been able to finagle myself.

Posted by: Hneftafl | June 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If West Virginians are so hard working, why do they live THERE?

Posted by: yes we can | June 4, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

West Virginians LOVE to finagle!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

As for hard working West Virginian,s and why we live here it is easy we love it here I was not born here and have lived in seven other states none can compare to the Great State of West Virginia. Ask any employer who has had an enployee from WV about work habits and honesty. They will say "I would love to have more of that kind of person working for me" Can you say you are as honest and hard working? Does your boss feel that way about you do feel that way about yourself?

Posted by: va2 | June 4, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Amazing how many want to jump West Virginia's peopkle, yet as we look around the country, in Califoria, Mass.,and New York, men butt f*****g one another is called a wonderful expression of love, Dick Chaney's own daughter is the "man" in her relatioship with another woman, in Utah and Nevada, the Morman's have so much power, they marry their own and others children, and everyone turns a blind eye,
saying it's no body's business. What makes West Virginia so perverse? What info does anyone have that incest is a problem there? Why pick on these people when old dick's own daughter is considered a pervert by a lot of people's standards

Posted by: Adam | June 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

No class.

Cheney and any of you that need to spend your time bashing your fellow Americans. Grow up and stop wearing your low self-esteem on your sleeves.

Posted by: Taylor | June 4, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

It seems like West Virginia is the only state full of tightly-wound douchebags that go nuts over the slightest negative reference to their state. Maybe there's more truth to it than we think.

Posted by: Jerome | June 4, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Youins tell Dickey to come to my holler an Ill learn'm to shoot a scattergun the right ways. If'n you are found here tonight youds be found here tommorrow. Sans overalls- remember weds open for business and it is wild and wonderful. Come on over, I grab dem 'eers.

Posted by: Jesseko Black | June 4, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Which Byrd are they referring to as I believe there are 47,000 byrds who favor each other to the nth degree. It must be the Grand Kleagle who has been on life support for 53 years. ARE you proud of the Great Ku Klux Klan star

By the way, how many subscribe to the thoughts of the Democrat Underground and/or Move On. Their gutter talk would shame most Army and Marine 1st Sergeants

Posted by: Al Bee | June 4, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

As I read the comments above, I was diappointed to see that many people thought it was appropriate to make a hurtful joke about another human being. I was born in WV and have lived here all of my life. I have also traveled to at least half of the states in the United State, visited Europe a few times, along with Canada and Mexico and I was always glad to see the beautiful hills of WV when I returned. The people in WV are kind, loving, and generous people who are always will to lend a helping hand to strangers as well as friends and family.

WV is a beautiful state with spectacular parks, rivers, and forests. It provides camping resorts, great skiing, some of the best white water rafting experiences in the country, and The Greenbrier resort which has hosted presidents and other famous people for over a hundred years. WV has many great universities and colleges--WVU won the Fiesta Bowl last fall.

Many famous people have come from WV such as Anna Jarvis(Mother's Day founder), Pearl S. Buck (author), Chuck Yeager(the first person to break the sound barrier), Stonewall Jackson (general), Jennifer Garner (actress married to Ben Afleck), John Corbet (actor) and many, many more!

It is very easy to condemn something about which one has no first hand knowledge. I invite you to visit our beautiful state, but come with an open mind and a willingness to look for the good in everyone.

Posted by: PegWV | June 4, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

I would just like to say that I'm from WV and I don't believe I have ever met anyone on this post. Correct me if I am wrong but if you have never met me then how do you know what I am like? Everyone is stereotyping people from WV and for some reason this is OK. I guess because you didn't mention our skin color or religion that it is ok to belittle us. I am sorry but that is WRONG. Since when is it funny to hurt someone else's feelings? I have personally never known anyone married to their brother/sister/cousin. However I do know that incest happens in every state. If you don't believe me just pick up the newspaper. There is always a story about an uncle or father molesting their loved ones. As for the person who wanted to know what % of people from WV had ever been to Iraq.... a h#ll of alot of them just look up our boys who are serving their country. As for Sen. Byrd yes he was involved with the KKK but he also has repented and apologized on numberous occassions. Have you never done something you regret? He did have the gumption to apologize himself instead of asking someone else to do it for him.
As for the person commenting on our slogan it is no longer "Open for Business" which tells how long it's been since you've been here.
As for it ruining the Rep's chances here in November, I believe you are wrong. You see we won't take one man's ignorance and hold the whole Rep. party accountable for it... unlike alot of you. Obama signed his fate here when he decided we weren't important enough for him to campaign for. I am a PROUD WEST VIRGINIAN..... I can read, I can write, I can tell right from wrong, and I can tell Mr. DICK Cheney where to go!!!!!!!

Posted by: Proud | June 4, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

To the person who said West Virginias weren't smart enough to know we were insulted, well that has to be one of the stupidest remarks someone has ever made. You would know that if you'd ever get out of the hole you live in. Do you have a John Nash or, for that matter, Homer Hickam, John McBride, Chuck Yeager?....PROABABLY NOT!! I'm betting you don't get out much because, if you did, you would know that you are very stupid and a poor excuse for a human being! I guess some people just like to blow themselves up by making fun of others. You know, that's what happened to Jesus.....people mocked him, scoffed at him, tried to make him feel inferior......do you know where they probably are right now?

Posted by: HeavenWV | June 4, 2008 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Many people make fun of West Virginians, but anybody who is anybody loves this state. The people are warm, the mountains are beautiful, and we have a little piece of heaven right here on top of those mountains. God blessed this place and it is a wonderful place to be. People have tried to destroy our egos, make us feel unworthy to be in the same room as them. NOBODY BUT NOBODY has any right to say anything about the people here. They are the best people I know!!!

This is what John Denver thought!!! Heaven!!!!!

On a pleasant, short-sleeved afternoon in Morgantown, W.Va, under a brilliant, almost cloudless sky, a shaggy-haired, bespectacled John Denver ambled toward the 50-yard line to, in effect, christen the new 50,000-seat Mountaineer Field, home of West Virginia football team. It was September 6, 1980, and the university wanted to do something special to introduce both its new stadium and a young first-year WVU coach named Don Nehlen. So Denver was invited to sing one of his signature songs - "Country Roads" - during pre game festivities. Denver, who died in 1997, accepted the invitation apparently under the impression that he would perform a quick novelty gig - hop off his helicopter, take an escorted ride into the stadium, sing "Country Roads" and then bail out. But that's not exactly what happened. Denver entered the stadium and found his microphone at the center of the
field, amidst the 325-member Mountaineer Band, which around him had formed an outline of the state of West Virginia. Then as he crooned the opening lyrics -"Almost heaven, West Virginia" - Denver was joined by about 50,000 backup singers.
Those who were there say the crowd's collective voice swelled to a climax at
the conclusion: "Country roads,take me home, to a place where I belong. West
Virginia, Mountain Momma. Take me home, country roads". Those attending also say that when Denver finished his song, he gazed in all directions - perhaps dumbfounded at the reaction. Some among the crowd wept. Most just cheered for a long time. "I'm pretty sure he had no idea what that song means to this state," said Dan Miller, an executive with the West Virginia Coal Association and an
unofficial Mountaineer football historian. "I was stationed in Germany in
1971 the first time I heard 'Country Roads,' and I'm not ashamed to say that
while I was listening I started crying," Miller said. "It means a lot when
you come from a place that most people don't appreciate or understand. And
here's someone singing about its beauty."
West Virginians, you see, feel they're underdogs - almost always fighting an
uphill battle. Economists tell West Virginians it's tough for their state to
prosper, because the mountains are so steep and rugged that land development
is a challenge. Educators used to say it was tough for many West Virginia children to get ahead because transportation to schools was difficult and winters are harsh. In the sports realm, there annually aren't many young top-tier athletes in
the state, in part because most schools are small and competition is not as
daunting as in denser population areas. There are, of course, exceptions - many of them. Native West Virginia athletes include Jerry West (basketball), John Kruk
(baseball) and Mary Lou Retton (gymnastics). Author Pearl Buck was a West
Virginian; so was Tuskegee Institute founder Booker T. Washington. Nobel
Prize winning mathematician John Nash was from West Virginia. So is country
singer Brad Paisley. Actor Don Knotts was from the Mountain State, as is actress Jennifer Garner, who still speaks fondly of the "hillers" and "creekers" from her alma mater, George Washington High School in Charleston. Most have spoken of both loving life, and overcoming tough
times, in West Virginia. So when Denver sang about Blue Ridge Mountains and the Shenandoah River, it doesn't matter to most West Virginians that the Blue Ridge is primarily a Virginia-North Carolina strand and the Shenandoah runs only a few miles through their state's Eastern Panhandle. To people who have lived their
lives fighting uphill battles, hearing someone tell them their home is "almost heaven" was more than music to their ears.
West Virginians love their state. "Wild Wonderful West Virginia " is a small
part of HEAVEN.




Posted by: HeavenWV | June 4, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and to the person who made the comment about us polluting our streams, you certainly don't complain about the low power bill and the cheap energy coal provides, huh? Coal was put here by God to be dug up and used. Do some research....you might actually get a brain! And I'm sure you'll be jumping up and down cheering when, engineers from West Virginia along with Ohio, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Tennesse and Virginia, coal is turned into fuel and lowers the price of oil. Maybe the coal-producing states will just keep all of it for ourselves. How does that sound? Can you read that?

Posted by: HEAVENWV | June 4, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe we need to form a new version of the KKK and weed out all the morons like those who think West Virginia is full of stupid and ignorant people who shack up with their relatives. To rid the world of such morons would be a great service to this country. We are all Americans.....we all have different backgrounds and we are all God's children. Oh by the way, check the Internet about incest....I believe it's everywhere!! Again, do some research and get a brain and a life while you're at it!!

Posted by: HEAVENWV | June 4, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for a good joke, but this crosses the line. Yes, I've heard it all before...all the incest jokes. Wasn't it so funny? Cheney's audience also loved it. Right? Well, West Virginia, here's your chance to get the last laugh. Send the Republicans home in November with their tails hanging behind them. Vote for a Democrat this November.

I'm not just offended by the WV bit, but it's the slam on southern states in general. If another section of the country was to be slammed like the southern states, it would be politically incorrect. Let's talk about the Northeast,the Northwest, the Southeast... no, let's not!!!! Let's talk about all these bloggers who apparently have no clue about an entire group of people..no let's not. It's not cool, it's not cute, it's not funny....and I'm not even from West Virginia.

Posted by: annie | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for a good joke, but this crosses the line. Yes, I've heard it all before...all the incest jokes. Wasn't it so funny? Cheney's audience also loved it. Right? Well, West Virginia, here's your chance to get the last laugh. Send the Republicans home in November with their tails hanging behind them. Vote for a Democrat this November.

I'm not just offended by the WV bit, but it's the slam on southern states in general. If another section of the country was to be slammed like the southern states, it would be politically incorrect. Let's talk about the Northeast,the Northwest, the Southeast... no, let's not!!!! Let's talk about all these bloggers who apparently have no clue about an entire group of people..no let's not. It's not cool, it's not cute, it's not funny....and I'm not even from West Virginia.

Posted by: annie | June 4, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Proud,
I believe Jesseko Black was correct about your beloved slogan--isn't it Wild, Wonderful?? He did mention that too. And, I don't think 8 months is a long time to not have noticed that it changed, especially since all of the welcome road signs still say Open for Business. It changed back in October, right, Proud? But, please correct us ALL if that is not right. Also, how do you know that Jesseko isn't from WV? Have you ever met him? Do you know what he's like? It sounds to me like you may be making fun of him, and since when is that funny--uhhh, since elementary school, right?? Or were you the kid that everyone made fun of? Personally, I think Jesseko is from WV, still there, and happy, and couldn't give 2 sh#$% about the "slogan".

Posted by: WVirginny32 | June 4, 2008 10:17 PM | Report abuse

What do West Virginians do on Halloween? Pump Kin!

Posted by: Louis Michael Mount | June 2, 2008 5:00 PM
you are disgusting. often incest is RAPE and you think that is funny?

Does it make you feel better to belittle and disrespect others?
Unfortunately there are popple who cannot feel good about themselves unless they are standing on top of someone else. Miserable, small minded, infantile people.

without exception, incest and sexual abuse transcends race, religion and socio-economic lines. Cheney didn't just insult (yawn) WV, but made light of an issue no one wants to talk about or even believe is a real problem.
I agree whole heartedly!! btw, I was born and raised in Ca.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Just as those above have stated, when is it right to go on national TV and make an insuation about a whole group of people and make a hurtful statement like that.....especially an elected leader? For people to say we go nuts over our state, you bet we do.......WE have every right to. Are you not proud of where you come from? Evidentaly not!! But I bet people would have been offended if Cheney would have come on TV and said that California is full of nympho-homicidal maniacs who sit around by their pool eating bon-bons all day contemplating their next rape or their next murder or that people from up Chicago are nothing but gangbangers (which by the way rape and molest their own children, sisters, aunts, mothers----isn't that incest?) and gang members, and people from Georgia, Arkansas, and Mississipi are slow because they might talk that way. Has nothing to do with the people they really. It's not true, but he could have said it. I have met people from everywhere and I try to see the good in everybody. It would make anybody want to stand up for themselves. We hear it so often, it just gets tiresome. We shouldn't have to defend ourselves. Does it not say in the Bible....Judge not, lest ye be judged? Well people, get ready because God is going to ask you about it and you will answer for it with hundreds of thousands of people who love this state and the people in it right behind you waiting for the same answer. Do you want to face that? We are God-fearing people who work hard and do not take much for granted. We have had to work and work hard for what he have. As for West Virginias judging the Republican party on 2 complete idiots, one of whom doesn't know the difference between a human and an animal when he shoots at it, we will not because we are not stereotypical windbags who make assumptions about other people based on nothing but stupid comments from ignorant people who don't have the sense God gave them to get out of the rain and just out and out lies. Do you know me, my family, my friends, my work colleages. I think not so shut your pie hole! Dick Cheney's words were as misguided as his shotgun the day he shot the man in the woods. What an idiot. Dick Cheney and anybody who supports him in his comment can pretty much kiss our Mountaineer, Fieta-Bowl winning asses. You mean nothing......you are nothing!!!

Posted by: HEAVENWV | June 4, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Regarding my previous comment, I have met people from all over, almost every state in the Union just about working in the medical field, and I have met people of different nationalities. You have to get to know people before you make assumptions about them or a whole group of people for that matter, so when I made the comment about Dickie boy could have said about other Americans, I just meant please walk a mile in our shoes. I don't believe those things at all!! I don't pass judgments on people! I thank everybody who is not from West Virginia for sticking up for us. It is high time we banded together as Americans and we all appreciate it from the bottom of our hearts.

Posted by: HEAVENWV | June 4, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

HeavenWV--WOW, I don't even know where to start. PLEASE, PLEASE do not be the representative for WV. You are one of the reasons why the stereotypes are out there. I mean, are you really comparing yourself or anyone else in WV to Jesus? And do you really think ANYONE cares about what happened on Mountaineer Field 28 years ago, except for Mountaineer fans, but really, no one else cares. I kind of understand what you're "trying" to say, but really, lighten up on the drama and the religion. You are definitely not the one to speak for God, and it's not up to you to "judge" or decide anyone else's fate. Seriously, I'm from WV, and I DO NOT want you to speak for me, and I'm sure there are a million others in the state who do not want your representation either. I don't even know why I read your ramblings, other than it was kind of like a car wreck--you don't want to look, but you can't help it. I just hope if others read your "thoughts" that they will not make a generalization about all West Virginians. One more thing...if God put coal in WV, do you think He wanted it to pollute the waters that He also created. I mean, you just don't make any sense. Lower power bills...then pollution is o.k, then, right? Think about it...

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

YEEHAW!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

I was visiting Myrtle Beach, SC several years ago from another state of course, Augusta, GA. I had a flat tire. People were passing by and passing by but nobody was stopping. I was getting nervous because I was supposed to meet friends at a restaurant as I was running late and they had to leave without me, and cell phones were a rare comodity at that time, and I was a little scared too. I was afraid I would not be able to get to them in time with no way to reach them. I tried to call the wrecker service with no luck as it was 9:00 p.m. Nobody was answering. All of a sudden, a truck appeared behind me and all I could see on the front of the truck was what appeared to a be a coal miner on a license plate on the front of the truck, a beautiful Dodge Ram. I thought, Uh Oh, this could get interesting. I got back in my car because I was a little afraid. Two men walked up to my car and asked me what seemed to be the trouble. I told them that I had a flat, my window barely cracked, just enough for them to hear me. A girl can't be too careful these days. They asked me to pop my trunk, which I did, and they got the tire out and started changing my tire for me. I was just relieved it was getting fixed and I was going to be able to get with my friends, digging in my purse to find some cash to give them. I finally got out of the car....they were nice enough to change my tire after all, and I asked them how much I owed them. Their words to me were....."Nothing.....I just hated to see such a pretty lady stranded on the side of the highway and nobody stopping to help her. It was our pleasure and we just hope you get where you are going safely and have a good time. They offered to follow me to where I was going just to make sure I had no problems." I thanked them immensely but told them I would be okay and I appreciated it. When they pulled out and I got behind them, the license plate caught my eye....West Virginia Wild and Wonderful.......Wonderful is exactly right.

Posted by: Georgia peach | June 4, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Now we are turning on each other........REALLY!!? I was just quoting the Bible....Judge not! And, I was not comparing us to Jesus....I was just saying people shouldn't judge anyone because you don't really know somebody until you take the time.

Do a little research about your own state....you might get a brain! Look up what the Twisted Gun Golf Resort used to be......hmmmmm....a strip mine perhaps?

Posted by: HeavenWV | June 4, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

HeavenWV, when you figure out what the definition of a comparison is, let me know. I have a brain, I understand that you were trying to quote the bible, but I don't feel that you should push that on to other people in that way. It's not up to you to force your religious beliefs onto others. That's what I was trying to say. As far as golf course that used to be a strip mine, well, that's unfortunate--thank you for the history lesson. But, my main point was that I don't want YOU to speak for me--don't generalize about all West Virginians unless you can make some sense.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 4, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse


My father came from Irelamd. He was a man of the bottle. My mother was a prostitute that had no luv for here children. I was hard scrabble. I learne t o do for myself. I blame mysself. I am not a victim. I love WV. Leave me alone. DO nor come to my house. DO NOT.. I Will Bring the Devil with me and not leave until he is tired ov me. Fire is of the land but the devil wile tire of it before me. 42 miles of bobwire is in your path. and then me.

My cussin sent me a letter- he found the lord last March-

Youall be talkin about The Lord.. Youall are judgin. How about you be judged?? Srtand up. Be reckined.. Wea are all bein here togetner. Everybody wants to be about borders and limits. When the judgement day comes a callin, where eill you be?
Ill be there withe you. I am not judgin anyone. I will hold yor hand. Come with me. We can do it toghehr. THe difference os in the long run, things are going to be O.K. Jesiko, you are astrong man. Be vivvalant and hold ataht heed yp, I just need to know that I love you. Everything turns out tht way because.

My cousin found the lord. He wasn't hiding, I knew were he was the whole tome. He was in my heart. Ad yours, too. Look and see. Everybody is so wooried about what everybody is saying. WV this, WV that.. Look in your heart, and see.

Posted by: Jesseko Black | June 5, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I understand some ignorant statements coming from people that don't have Appalachian roots. However what makes me mad is that other people from Appalachia would make derrogatory comments about West Virginia. I am proud of West Virginia even though I have never lived in the state.They are the only truly Appalachian mountain state. Some people made fun of Kentuckians, Tennesseans or a variety of mountain states. I got news for anyone with Appalachian roots if they will make fun of West Virginia they will make fun of you when you are out of hearing distance. Appalachian citizens unite we must not continue criticizing each other but instead stand up for each other. I have lived in many parts of the country and no it isn't just these few ignorant folks saying these things it is many millions just like them. For the future of our children please stand up and defend our selves not through violence but by intelligence, just as most of our Appalachian ancestors stood up for the union during the civil war and was very instrumental in ending slavery. We must defend ourselves and not allow our leaders and the media to continue to downgrade our people. Stand up Appalachians were ever we are or our children will forever be condemned to poverty.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

As Representative Nick Rahall so eloguently put it......We owe a debt of gratitude to our VP Dick Cheney for yet another great WV slogan!

Dick Cheney is not from here!!

I would like to add, in my own words, who can take a man seriously who honestly doesn't know the difference between a human and an animal before he shoots at it! I mean, honestly! He's no brain surgeon people!! Stick and stones my friends! His words mean nothing....people in Washington don't take him serious! Just ask them! Dick's time is up! Thank God!!! Maybe this country can get under control.....let's vote right this time!!

Posted by: michelle | June 5, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure why people are saying this is justifiable because it's funny or not--THAT ISN'T THE POINT.

the point is that the Vice President of the United States made such an ignorant comment about a state full of people who (unfortunately) elected him...

It's called being POLITICALLY CORRECT; something politicians are expected to do and dick has clearly failed miserably at here

it's one thing for someone to make an inbred joke about WV in passing, that's one thing; hell, west virginians ourselves do it sometimes.
the Vice President shouldn't have said it, BECAUSE he's the Vice President.

It's tasteless, it's insulting, and someone in a position of power who is supposed to be unbiased just shouldn't have said it. end of story.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I put this on another site, but I feel it needs repeating. I was visiting Myrtle Beach many years ago. I was on my way to meet some friends for dinner because, as usual, I was running late. I got a flat and had to pull off on the side of the road. In those days, cell phones were rare and not too many people had them (believe it or not it's true!). Anyway, I was getting nervous because I had no way to get in touch with my friends and I was afraid I was going to miss them and not find them the rest of the night. I made phone calls, several I might add, to the local wrecker service. They must have been out or something.....no answer. I thought all hope had been lost until I saw this really nice truck pull up behind me after many, many cars had passed me by. On the front of the truck was a license plate with a coal miner on it. I thought, Uh Oh, this could get interesting. Those were the days before I knew better that is. I got back in my car, locked the doors, and barely rolled down the window. The 2 men walked up to my car and asked me what the trouble was. I told them I had a flat and they asked me to pop my trunk. I was so nervous my knees were shaking.....who where these men and what did they want from me? I sat there in my car waiting for the worst to happen when I felt my car being jacked up....They were fixing my flat of course! I started digging around in my purse to look for some cash to give them. They were finished and I got out of the car. I was still a little hesitant, but I asked them how much I owed them. Their response....."Nothing....I just hated to see a pretty lady on the side of the road trying to wave somebody down and nobody stopping......We just hope you get where you are going safely and that you have a great time this evening." I was dumbfounded.....I just couldn't believe these guys were trying to pick me up or beat me and rape me and leave me for dead. They asked if they could follow me just to make sure I got where I needed to go, and I told them No thanks......They pulled out first and I got behind them. I glanced at the license plate to see where these nice guys were from and low and behold, they were from Wild and Wonderful West Virginia. Wonderful is absolutely right and just as generous and kind as they could be.

We all have problems in our states with different things. Is it really necessary to bash such kind and caring people who haven't done anything to anybody?

Posted by: Georgia peach | June 5, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Okay, seriously, you're just.....well, I'll be nice. Try it.....it's really a wonderful feeling! I am not trying to push anything on anyone, and I don't think I was trying to speak for all West Virginians, but I think I can say that those of us who love this state thank those who united with us and stood up for us. You don't like what I wrote, don't read it! It's pretty simple. I have every right to say what I want, when I want, and where I want....I think our founding fathers put that in our Constitution. Let me guess, you don't know about freedom of speech? Didn't study it? Well, look it up! And, who do you think you are telling me anything? I suppose you are the smartest person alive? Think again. People, unlike you, who love this state and everything and everyone in it, regardless of where they come from or what they are about or what they do, would agree with me when I said people have to answer for what they do. It is stated clearly we are not to judge each other. Nobody is perfect even though I know you think you are.

I am very angry at how West Virginians get treated and how our coal miners, who go out there and bust their butts everyday just to feed their families, get ridiculed for the work they do. I'm pretty sure you don't object to their tax dollars paying for schools, colleges, roads, and probably the mental disability check you're on, etc. I guess you are one of those idiots who thinks your power comes from the poles outside your house, huh?

Posted by: HeavenWV | June 5, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

I live in WV and I don't really care about Cheney's joke. I mean hopefully most people are smart enough to realize that it was a joke. It still makes kinda pisses me off though. I just get mad when ppl say that WVians are stupid. I've lived in WV all my life and I'm pretty frickin' smart. My IQ is like 1 frickin' 66. I just think it's crazy that people think WVians are stupid. I really don't understand why. It really angers me. Is it the accent? No it can't be that because a lot of really smart ppl are from other countries and have accents. I guess the stereotypes started a long time ago and just stuck and I've never seen them growing up in the last 20 years or my parents in the last 40 or my grandparents in the last 60.

I like republicans. I'll agree that our economy is pretty messed up but I'd blame it on the state being a blue state, outside of presidential elections, for the last 100 years. Yeah I'd definitely blame it on that.

Posted by: Cheston | June 5, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

yeah i agree with one of the other comments. I dont think west virginians are smart enough to even know they have been insulted. Like a hillary supporter said "west virginians are poor and probably on welfare".

Posted by: comot | June 5, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Regarding this:
"yeah i agree with one of the other comments. I dont think west virginians are smart enough to even know they have been insulted. Like a hillary supporter said "west virginians are poor and probably on welfare"."

Posted by: comot | June 5, 2008 8:31 AM

Comot:
I see you know how to punch the keyboard on your computer. Do you know how to research statistics and compare WV with other states, especially your own? Perhaps you should do that before you make ignorant comments. Ignorance (like yours) is not bliss, it just makes you look stupid.

Posted by: Angie | June 5, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

^
Hey you...I've got a feeling you're not smart enough to know who's smart!!

Posted by: Bob | June 5, 2008 9:13 AM | Report abuse

There are many states with a higher unemployment rate than West Virginia, including North Carolina, South Carolina, California, Nevada, Illinois, Ohio and Rhode Island to name a few. There are more. I would bet that most of the people making derogatory comments on here are from one of those states and unemployed themselves therefore not up to date on current events and statistics.

Posted by: Angie | June 5, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Cheney took a cheap shot at West Virginia, but he didn't mention the circling of he wagon around its beleagured Univesity president. An unearned graduate degree was awarded to Heather Bresch, Governor Manchin's daughter and an exec in Mylan hamaceuticals. Garrison - who reported to Bresch in a previous job - refuses to resign, although several others have resigned or been re-assigned (at their same pay rate) The Board hs efused to ask for Garrisons resignation.

The reason Cheney wouldn't want to comment on this sort of thing is the old saw, "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

Better to take a cheap shot than risk a boomerang. (g)

Posted by: cmcintyr | June 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

CHENEY IS IGNORANT. To put someone down is an attempt to make a person feel superior! It only proves their ignorance to the listener! I have a neighbor in the South who moved here from Brooklyn. She invited me in for coffee and after friendly conversation she proceeded to tell me "you're pretty smart for a Southerner". I looked at her and she truly thought she was complimenting me! Such ignorance!! I have no use for ignorant people! The people in the South are real genuine people who don't put on "airs" for the most part! I was born in the South and live in the South. Would not want to live anywhere else!

Posted by: jabysc | June 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The following is from an article By Juliet Lapidos for Slate.com

How'd West Virginia get a reputation for inbreeding?

Exaggeration-prone outsiders. In the 1880s and 1890s, writers such as Mary Noailles Murfree and John Fox Jr. traveled across Appalachia, looking for "local color," and overstated the degree to which mountain populations lived in isolation. During the same time period, missionaries reported pervasive ignorance and poverty, with large families living together in ramshackle cabins. The notion of widespread inbreeding was at least in part the result of crude assumptions about how these isolated forest people might have been perpetuating their communities.

It's true that, through the 19th century, transportation networks developed slowly in the rugged, westernmost portion of Virginia (incorporated as West Virginia in 1863). The area was never entirely cut off, but many people lived in remote "closed communities" with little incoming or outgoing migration. Research on intrafamilial marriage in such enclaves is slim. In 1980, anthropologist Robert Tincher published a study titled "Night Comes to the Chromosomes: Inbreeding and Population Genetics in Southern Appalachia," based on 140 years' worth of marriage records. He concluded that "inbreeding levels in Appalachia ... [are neither] unique [n]or particularly common to the region, when compared with those reported for populations elsewhere or at earlier periods in American history."

Stereotypes about West Virginian breeding practices have long been linked to the state's poverty. When Eleanor Roosevelt visited West Virginia mining towns in the 1930s, national newspapers ran pictures of rundown shacks and barefoot kids in rags, which left a lasting impression of the state as a backwater. West Virginians became the prototypical "hillbillies," and incest served as a crude "scientific" explanation for their downtrodden social condition.

In more recent memory, the 2003 film Wrong Turn helped perpetuate the inbreeding stereotype. Set in West Virginia, it features cannibalistic mountain men, horribly disfigured from generations of incest. Then, in 2004, Abercrombie & Fitch released a T-shirt emblazoned with a map of the Appalachian state and the words "It's all relative in West Virginia." In February, a casting director for the upcoming thriller Shelter put out a call for extras with "unusual body shapes, [and] even physical abnormalities" to depict West Virginia mountain people.

For the record, West Virginia has strict anti-incest laws. Only adopted cousins are allowed to marry, while in Vermont, Virginia, and a handful of other states, first cousins can tie the knot.

Posted by: Chris Kittinger | June 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

West Virginia has strict anti-incest laws.... because they need them!

Posted by: VA progressive | June 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Although not a native (I was born in Vermont, is that Yankee enough for you?), I am very proud to be a West Virginian. The people in my rural county are overwhelming hard-working, honest, helpful, high-minded, patriotic, etc. I'm really NOT kidding when I recite the litany of praise for my WV neighbors. Nobody is perfect, us West Virginians included, but I much prefer the company around me here than I would to most of the people at the center of power in this horribly failed administration.

That Cheney, the (politically-speaking, anyway) prince of darkness, should condescend in this way, is not too much of a surprise. He is (quite apparently) the author of our failed Iraq policy, of torture as interrogation, of the crassest political gamemanship, and of much else that we should be ashamed of, that his needing to make fun of West Virginia is simply consistent behavior for him. He kids about being called Darth Vader. Darth Vader is virtuous by comparison.

As some of my neighbors would say, Dick Cheney can go push a chain!

Posted by: old white male democrat in Appalachia | June 5, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear WVirginny32

First off it is Mrs. not Mr. so as assumptions go you made a big one. A wrong one at that. As to what makes me think Jesseko Black isn't from here... well I never said he wasn't from here. What I said was "tells how long since you've been here". Which has more than one meaning. My meaning was in Heart. Which is besides the point because he also stated "What was wrong with Wild, Wonderful as if he didn't know it had changed. Yes it did change in October and seeing how it was all over the news you would think by June he would have noticed it. As for the signs not all of them still say "Open for Business". If you don't give 2 sh%t's about the slogan then why take the time to blog? As for making fun of him I never once said anything to belittle him. I simply pointed out that he was wrong. I did not attack his person nor his traits as I do not know them. Unlike you who had to be childish and put in the "kid in school" remark. I assure you that I was indeed very well liked in school as I am today. What would that matter anyway we are all grown now anyway.... well most of us. I did notice that of all the fine points I brought to light in my previous blog you only picked up on the slogan. I wonder why?

Posted by: Proud | June 5, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

I am from West Va, and I am proud to call this my home. We have a high percentage of veterans that have paid the price for people to post their ignorant comments here. I am one of the many that have. Through the blood, sweat, and tears of veterans let your own conscience be your guide. As for the Vice President, he made a mistake. I am a registered Democrat and I can forgive for a simple thoughtless joke. Some of the trash posted here is harder to forgive.

Posted by: ProudVeteran | June 5, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

I am SO glad that I do not half to meet half of you JERKS face to face becuase see the thing is I am proud of who I am what I stand for and where I Live which is in the Greatest State in the Country yes WEST VIRGINIA, if you ever ventured out of your areas and came here youwould see why the people here NEVER DO LEAVE because it is absolutley beautiful here and everyone knows each other and if you go anywhere someones always there that will be genuine in their kindness towards yo. Can you say that about where you live....
Remember we ARE the State which got the news out on the biggest traitor in the history of history we can spot scum a mile away and yes I see a lot of SCUM here and how dare you HIDE behind your fake USER names spewing your pure CRAP from your mouths YOU WOULD NEVER DO IN PERSON YOU ARE FAKE GROW UP GET A LIFE & if you ever do come to WV just remember I told you so.... cause you will never want to leave and have the BIG city life if we want all we hae to do is jump on the highway
we have MAJOR cities all around us we visit them in matters of a couple hours but come back to this gorgeous State where we can breath FRESH AIR & live in PEACE from a-s like you out there.


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Posted by: MichellefromWV | June 5, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of loser you all think itis funny ehh?
What is the deal, you Dick Cheney ass kissers or what, did he hire a telemarketing firm to defend his sorry old pitiful arse!
Leave the State of WV alone

Posted by: Youdontwanttoknow | June 5, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

hey angie

i learned about you in the dictionary in school today you define the word well

beotch yeah take that eo and switch it to a i=
NOW GO CRY

Posted by: yourworsenightmare | June 5, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Chief Two Dogs you arejust a jacka$$

Posted by: Amy | June 5, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

The people of West Virginia wll have to excuse the ignorance of Dick,the people of West Virginia are the most caring and heartfelt he will ever have the opportunity to meet. He only wishes he coud have those qualifications, than he could live n ALMOST HEAVEN. Incest must run in his family he who casts the first stone.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 5, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I think half of these people posting on here are so lonely and that is why they keep coming back I think they are mentally challenged ys those whom are bashing the WV people.

Posted by: Cleaner | June 6, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I think half of these people posting on here are so lonely and that is why they keep coming back I think they are mentally challenged yes those whom are bashing the WV people.

Posted by: Cleaner | June 6, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Paddle faster, I hear banjo music!

Posted by: Anonymous | June 6, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

All I see is a bunch of talk about a person who means nothing a used up old man that is worthless to this Republican Party.

Posted by: loserslaugh | June 6, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

As a Born and bred West Virginian and Republican, I did take offense and found the comment far from a joke. What amazes me is the arrogance and stupidity of all the posters that still believe that West Virginian are uneducated and backwards. That just show YOUR ignorance.

Posted by: WVUmounties8 | June 6, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

"hey angie i learned about you in the dictionary in school today you define the word well beotch yeah take that eo and switch it to a i= NOW GO CRY"

Posted by: yourworsenightmare | June 5, 2008 11:30 PM

Hey yourworsenightmare:
I'm surprised you can read a dictionary since you apparently can't put sentences together very well and can't come up with anything useful to say about the topic. ? Do you just troll to "try" to insult people you know absolutely nothing about? If you don't have anything intelligent to say about the topic, why waste our time? I'm pretty sure we were talking about Cheney and West Virginia here.

Posted by: Angie | June 6, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

My second post in response to this article (please bear with me . . .)

Having previously praised my fellow West Virginians for their many admirable and conspicuous virtues, I will admit to my frustration that they have twice voted for Dubya and Dicky and that contemptible bunch. It is true that the majority of West Virginians seem disposed to vote against their own self-interest (and, simultaneously, against our collective, national interest). I must point out, however, that that doesn't make them any different from persons in any other so-called "red states." So to attribute the political misjudgment of voting for Bush-Cheney to some unique West Virginian form of ignorance is plainly stupid, not to mention insulting. Are the people in Ohio, Virginia, Kentucky, and all the other red states afflicted by some superior form of stupidity which makes their political decisions acceptable (if lamentable) while West Virginia's identical collective decision is attributable to our genetic and cultural inferiority????? Puh-leeze!

Two parting shots:
1) Those of you who are quick to insult us would be well-advised both to reconsider your prejudices and to visit our beautiful state and friendly people; and
2) Dick Cheney can STILL go push a chain!

Posted by: old white male democrat in Appalachia | June 6, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

I just spent about three months in Huntington, West Virginia with one of the biggest names in that state. He was born and raised in the state, pulled himself out of poverty and into millions of dollars. He told some of the coarsest incest jokes about WV ever!

West Virginians joke about incest in WV all the time! I'm not sure I have met a person from or who has been to West Virginia who DIDN'T mention incest with a sly grin!

Silly people. It's almost a matter of pride in WV, like homosexuals in San Francisco! In all likelihood, Cheney just WON some extra votes!

Posted by: jml | June 6, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

To the last comment, made by JML. That is ridiculous. No true born West Virginian jokes or encourages people to make jokes about incest. I've lived all my life hearing these jokes and I've had enough of it. Im WV born and raised, and never more proud of my state and the people that live here. Dick Cheney is just another stupid politician that thinks we don't care. We do

Posted by: Mark C | June 6, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I am a teenager living in West Virginia and I just wanted to ask people like oddball if they hae ever been to West Virginia. I am positive that they haven't! I am not imbred and I am educated. My father is a scientist and I am in 7th grade and took the ACT this year and scored a 23!!! IN 7th Grade!!!!

What did you get on your ACT oddball and others who are saying these things about this state.

I am not an imbred

Posted by: NotAnInbred | June 6, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I am weary of defending West Virginia simply because it seems like somewhat of at least a small justification of this comment's merit or influence. However, the truth is that I'm sure there are isolated cases of incest in West Virginia. If there are, there are no doubt similar isolated incidents in every other state in the country. Generalizations, even in joking form, are exactly what a seasoned politician like the Vice President should know better than. It is so easy to generalize, to judge from what little we know about a people or a place, but the truth is that we are all people. West Virginians are Americans. Perhaps some are isolated, poor, uneducated, or just different, but they are people. I won't pretend that being from West Virginia or another region of Appalachia garners prejudices that rival racism or hate crimes. However, perhaps it is time to stop and think of West Virginia (which is a state in which jobs are declining and young people are migrating out of and which seems to consistently fall at the bottom of the good lists and at the top of all of the bad lists) as a state that is ripe with potential and in need of people committed to its worth. I suppose that what I am saying is that perhaps if politicians stopped making ignorant low brow jokes about this state and committed to improving its conditions, we would all be better for it. In addition, I have lived in West Virginia for 23 years. Its views are indescribable, its tourism incredible, and most of its residents involved and giving. I encourage anyone who hasn't been to hasten to make judgments about a state rich in pride and patriotism. I also hear their university's football team isn't too shabby.

Posted by: Ashley | June 6, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Vice President 5 Time Deferment Dick Cheney is living proof that a monkey and an orangutan can breed as Dick Cheney is the F'king fat monkey of an offspring being the end result. Some one needs to take the Fat Pig hunting and sees if he likes to be involved in a hunting accident. Dick Cheney is the Devil's Spawn and will enjoy eternity in H'ell upon his death as he deserves to suffer eternity in the anals of H'ell for his lies of the past 7.5 years.

Posted by: morriso | June 7, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Come on people, we are all grown ups. If we cant a joke what the hell are we going to do when some terrist stick a dirty bomb up our ass. The man has worked his ass off for this country. This country getting too soft!

Posted by: doug | June 7, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Dick- I think you may be confusing incest with poverty, poverty is a little harder to joke about since you had a hand in making it. Not all of WV is poverty stricken, but enought to be noticed by and made fun of by people like you, but thats as far as it goes, make a dirty little joke of it.. We really don't need leaders like you, you are a waste. One thing I do know is we as Mountaineers love our state. MONTANI SEMPER LIBERI..

Posted by: Brenda | June 7, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

I am from WV, and I can't believe some of what I'm reading, its a sad day when citizens talk about other citizens of our Country this way. We know longer talk about blacks, jews, etc. and that is something to be proud of, but its ok to talk about people in WV this way, thats because as bullies people need someone to pick on and talk about its in their nature, so to the people who think this is funny you are bullies, and probably always have been, you are just like Dick. I love my State and just because some people are ignorant about the people and the beauty of it that will never change. I hope you can visit our great state one day, for white water rafting, bridge day, camping, we have it all.

Posted by: Mountain Momma | June 8, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I think that people here in WVa. get really tired of the off color jokes,however we would like to keep the outsiders in check. We are NOT very tollerent of rude,uppity,"city" people here. And we would like to keep them from knowing just what good country living is. If it means making you afraid of a bunch of gun totin' hillbillies with huntin' dogs in pick up trucks,to keep you out of "ALMOST HEAVEN WEST VIRGINIA" then so be it!!!! We pay a very little price to live the good life. We can raise our families here with the real morals of life. You can ask any West Virginian and you will find out, who is actually the butt of the joke, and who is in on the secret!!

Posted by: Born and Raised | June 8, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

As a resident of West Virginia...we can do everything that anybody else can in any other state. How ignorant are you people, really? To be quite honest with you, we could do anything better than you. Hey they do say..."Incest is the best" **Rolls eyes* Grow up people.

Posted by: *Are you kidding me?* | June 9, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

West Virginians are pretty defensive about this, so it must be true.

No wonder they vote both for Bush and Sheets, their brains are swisscheesed from all the milfing.

Posted by: VT Rulz | June 9, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

To Proud Veteran-
Thank you.

Posted by: Lewisburg | June 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

VTRulz- If I say you su##, and you are offended then it must be true, what a stupid comment. I've read alot of these posts and the ignorance of it all is unbelievable, I thought all of this kind of bias was behind us, but I guess not, we have to have someone to look down on, why not just pick a whole state. Yes some people in WV voted for George and Dick, I'm glad to say I wasn't one of them, but if I did big deal, was WV the only red state? And guess where Washington is going to if they are ever attacked, come on you all you are smart, aren't you? Yes WV. Do we want them , HELL NO.. will we get them HELL YEAH!

Posted by: Lady of the mountains | June 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Washingtonians would rather swim to Morocco than hide out in the pasty white hillbilly state.

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Posted by: 3qnkjv5g07 | June 11, 2008 2:48 AM | Report abuse

Good, I see one down... If you aren't in the Government I wasn't talking about you, you think they are going to drag you all behind them? Sorry, you have to fend for yourselves..

Posted by: Lady of the Mountains | June 11, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

It's sad to say, but even bureaucrats are smarter than hillbillies. They know if they end up in West Virginia they'll be raped and eaten by Lady of the Mountains' 17 deformed children.

A progressive state like Maryland would be much more welcoming.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 11, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I think I've made my point, its no fun to be the one on the bad end of a bad joke, or being made fun of,it makes you want to come back on a defend yourself as well as your state. I have been to Washington DC and thought it was a beautiful place. I see the last post is back to the name calling and I'm really tired of defending something that isn't true, but if thats what people want to believe then it's your loss, we have a beautiful State, we have beautiful people, and the inbreeding jokes are childish and really don't deserve a reply, and the hillbilly thing is cool, I don't mind that.

Posted by: Lady of the Mountains | June 12, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

You're right. West Virginia is a bad joke.

When we finish strip mining the place, can we just turn the whole thing into a lake?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I have just nominated the idiot for a Darwin Award.

Posted by: An award for him | June 13, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

If Cheney needed to apologize, how many apologies are still due from Jay Leno, who alludes to incest every time he mentions West Virginia or Kentucky?

Posted by: FrankTireur | June 14, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I think it was funny. West Virginian politicians should get a sense of humor... and stop dating their sisters.

Did you think it was funny or offensive? Vote here:
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Posted by: PolyTicks | June 16, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

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