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Curse of the Mark Foley Seat, Now Mahoney's



Florida Democratic Rep. Tim Mahoney's "private life" may end up costing him public office. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky, File)

Rep. Tim Mahoney (D-Fla.) publicly apologized to his constituents and family today by reading a statement that implicitly, at least, seemed to acknowledge some sort of violation of his marriage. Though he did not outright admit to any wrongdoing.

Mahoney read a brief statement at a news conference saying: "I have not violated my oath of office, nor have I broken any laws and I consider this to be a private matter. I take full responsibility for my actions and the pain that I have caused my wife Terry and my daughter Bailey. No marriage is perfect, but our private life is our private life. I'm sorry that these allegations have caused embarrassment and heartache."

The congressman's alleged extramarital affair with a staffer and promise to pay her $121,000 to avoid a lawsuit was reported Monday by ABC News. (The link also includes audio of a man ABC News identifies as Mahoney angrily firing his alleged mistress and staffer, Patricia Allen, after she reportedly broke up with him.)

The story is getting more attention for its irony. Mahoney was elected two years ago in the Palm Beach area to replace former Republican congressman Mark Foley, who infamously resigned in disgrace over revelations of his lewd text messages and e-mails to teenage boys serving as House pages. Mahoney campaigned on a platform to restore integrity to the seat, and his campaign's current reelection literature includes "Faith and Family - Where I Stand."

Mahoney insisted this morning, "I have not misused campaign funds and I am confident that when all the facts come to light, I will be completely vindicated. The people in my district know that I'm a fighter and I'm not going to allow this politically motivated story coming out 20 days before the election to change my resolve to serve the people of the 16th Congressional District. I have worked hard and I am prepared to put my faith in the people and ask for their vote."

Just a week ago, Mahoney looked like a shoo-in for reelection. He led his GOP challenger, Tom Rooney, by about 20 points in polling, and won the endorsement of the Palm Beach Post. But the ABC News story of his alleged extramarital affair broke this week, the newspaper wrote an editorial demanding Mahoney come clean.


House Democratic Caucus Chairman Rahm Emanuel
(D-Ill.), who has earned the nickname "Rahmbo" for his rough-and-tumble approach to politics, confronted Mahoney well over a year ago about his rumored bad behavior. Emanuel's office released a statement saying, "Upon hearing a rumor, Congressman Emanuel confronted Congressman Mahoney, told him he was in public life and had a responsibility to act accordingly and appropriately, and urged him to do so. They had no further conversations on this topic."

That confrontation occurred in early 2007, and Emanuel didn't know that that the woman in question was a staffer or that payments (read: hush money) were involved until he was informed by ABC News, according to a source close to the congressman.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has called for a House ethics investigation into the allegations against Mahoney. At this point, Democratic leaders don't mind tossing Mahoney overboard given their extremely lucky Election Day forecast. "The environment is good. Any other time we would be belly aching and crying," one high-level Democratic political operative tells us.

While House Democrats are openly predicting gains of 12 to 15 seats, Republicans are quietly yet confidently predicting Democratic gains in the House of at least 20 seats and perhaps as many as 30.

By Mary Ann Akers  |  October 14, 2008; 2:20 PM ET
 
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What the heck do you mean, "Curse of the Mark Foley Seat"? This has nothing to do with mishaps or some unknown influence. It's about personal conduct and responsibility. The standard should BE the "standard". As it was for Foley, so should the same intensity of scrutiny apply to Mahoney. Anything else is bigotted bias.

Posted by: Eric | October 14, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Is it really just a personal matter? A lot of people are affected by his personal misconduct. At that point, it is no longer a matter we should overlook. For example, Mrs. Clinton's daughtor blew off a person in the audience who asked a question about infidelity. She said "none of your business." When you are in the public office, it so is our matter. Such misconduct is an indicator of questionable integrity of the politicians. Can you trust such people to hold a public office to make important decisions with integrity on behalf of you and numerous other people?

Posted by: ComputerScientistInDC | October 14, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

In reaction to the headline only: Curse? These are people who made ridiculously stupid decisions all by themselves. My heart breaks a little every time a democrat gets busted for something as ridiculous as this. This guy sounds (and looks) like a HUGE CREEP though. If you are going to get all mystical I would say that it seems Florida is its own special kind of hell and just as hot.

Posted by: Tia | October 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Mahoney was a republican to begin with. He changed parties just to run as a democrat to unseat Foley. They are all frauds and will sell anything and anyone to get elected. As to extra-marrital affairs, that is quite common amongst Congress. The key is not to get caught and you are ok. If you get caught (remember Spitzer), then you pay.

Posted by: Nat | October 14, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

At least he wasn't trying to seduce teenage boys.

Posted by: Tweety | October 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

at least he didn't tell a lie about weapons of mass destruction which led to the murder of 4186 american citizens-

Posted by: kirkland | October 14, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Integrity matters. A single deception can easily lead to another, regardless of whether it is done in private or in public.

Posted by: You Betcha... | October 14, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Kirkland,
If you believe what's going on in the middle East ever had anything to do with WMD, then you must be smoking something. Unfortunately, the American people don't like being told the truth so you have to lie to them to get things done. The public has a habit of shooting the messenger when you tell them the truth. They would much rather live in never, never land and believe the pablum they are constantly fed by the mainstream newsmedia.

Posted by: JimBob | October 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Eric, This does not sound like an apples-to-apples act compared to Mark Foley's actions with an underage House page. Sleeping around might as unethical as it is unhealthy, but sleeping with a minor is called rape in some places -- what Foley did deserved more severe action. Let Mahoney's constituents have the last word in this matter.

Posted by: mh | October 14, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it about time we end the BS about the "lie about weapons of mass destruction"
Every nation in the world believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction including Iraq by the way their solidiers in the field acted.

Mark Foley resigned when he was confronted by his own party. While Mahoney says he is going to fight and his party is backing him. The Foley issue had much to do with Republicans lossing the House and Senate.

Finally to the guy talking about the type of sex with little boys he better check about old Barney Franks who DID have sex with 15 year old boys and did not have to resign.

Posted by: dr | October 14, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Without doubt, if this creep was Republican, Mary Ann liberal Dimocrat would not be blaming a "seat curse."
Until Americans start boycotting newspaper advertisers and stop buying liberal fish wrappers, this double standard will continue.
As far as Mahoney goes, he will be spanked by mother pelosi and returned to his seat. problem is, Mahoney will probably enjoy the spanking by pelosi....

Posted by: Larry Clifton | October 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what would happen if everyone who cheated on their wives got fired. It might be the only thing that could beat out the bush administration for unemployment hikes.

Posted by: spazdaq | October 14, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

SEX!

Posted by: Kimmo | October 14, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"more attention for it's irony" ????? I heard the tape , what a jerk.Is this the best we can do across the country? This guy never worked anywhere important, he made a little money on a buy out , big deal.

Posted by: Mike | October 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Those were the days my friends!

Posted by: KIMMO | October 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Once again, I quote a man from the past, namely Mr. Mark Twain:
"It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress."

Posted by: David White | October 14, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

SEX you gotta love it.

Scandel you gotta love it.

Lets bite are teeth into this matter!

The real subject here is if you listened to the tape you would discover someone who has no regards to anyone and uses his power for sexual advances. Mahoney is 100% disgusting jerk. Now he will ask God to forgive him the same way as those evangalist preachers remember them too?

Posted by: Kimmo | October 14, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

To correct the Barney Frank issue....Frank was caught with a MALE PROSTITUTE, not a 15 year old boy!!!! Get your facts straight!!! There is a marked difference between 2 consenting adults and a CHILD.

Regardless of the political affiliation of Mr. Mahoney, this was unethical from a human standpoint and nothing else. At the same time, we shouldn't allow these sorts of indiscretions to go unnoticed or unpunished. The people that represent us are supposed to be better than us, otherwise my 5 year old could hold public office.
These idiots need to think with another head.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Too bad he wasn't on the Democratic ticket; the media would never have released this information ala Clinton, Edwards, Obama, Jefferson, etc, etc, etc.

I am sure the next thing we hear is how the guy is a sex addict, whoooooa is meeeee, I know I had my d*ck in her mouth but that's not sex - hey look at this definition of "is".

Just one more case of the mind numbing crap from the Democrats that will get a pass because the standards set by their constituents are lower than whale sh*t.

Posted by: Robert Campbell | October 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the odd phrasing at the end of this article:

"While House Democrats are openly predicting gains of 12 to 15 seats, Republicans are quietly yet confidently predicting Democratic gains in the House of at least 20 seats and perhaps as many as 30."
If your opponent is going to win a lot of seats at your expense, you can't be described as "confident", right?

Posted by: Matt Wesselhoff | October 14, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to politics. They are almost all scum bags who NEVER practice what they preach.

Posted by: LOL | October 14, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Who in Washington hasn't cheated? McCain did. Clinton did. Edwards. Thomas Jefferson. More than I care to look up. All this does is provide additional proof that some politicians, like some non-politicians, can and will cheat on their wives or husbands. If it's important to you that your elected officials be adultry-free that's fine (and good luck to you if that is a requirement, you're going to need it). But if you cry that Mahoney should step down, then you should also cry for McCain to step down.

Posted by: Just Annie | October 14, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"Frank was caught with a MALE PROSTITUTE, not a 15 year old boy!!!! Get your facts straight!!! There is a marked difference between 2 consenting adults and a CHILD"

Posted by Aaron above.

Now the facts: The two pages were 17 years old. That is not a CHILD! By definition, a child is prepubescent. Also, Foley did NOT have sex but merely sent disgusting emails. It was unethical but not illegal. Barney Frank was running male hookers out of his Washington DC condo. That is ILLEGAL!

Posted by: Dayana Martinez | October 14, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Campbell needs a fact check as well.
Edwards and Clinton both got it in the end from the media. They at least took responsibility for their actions. Larry Craig STILL won't take responsibility for anything he already said he did.
You can't color this problem as a partisan one. And you certainly can't take the GOP out of the issue just because they are the party of "morality". Even that nimrod Giuliani is guilty (for God's sake, he's dressed up as a woman more times than Ru-Paul).
So far, the only thing I see are humans making human errors. Call a spade a spade. Divisiveness isn't going to get America anywhere.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Both men are dishonest. The fact of the matter is - if your wife and family can not trust you, you can???? Nothing changes that truth! I have been married 35 years and have never considered cheating on my wife. My wife and I associate with like-minded people. There are many men and women who are faithful and true to their families. Why not try to elect one of the faithful and true to office??????

Posted by: Kim | October 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Hiding behind the facade of faith and family is a universal to all politicians. The only scandal here is the fact that this Congressman managed to get caught after offering the woman that much money. He is not the president, he is merely a congressman so spilling the beans on 'principle' probably would not have given her more money or even prestige. Besides I see no parallel between this and the actions of Congressman Foley, at best you could say that this guy violated the trust of his family by having an extramarital affair. Anyone who thinks that powerful men do not take advantage of that power in some way are self delusional. What people should focus on is whether that abuse of power actual effects the outcome of laws and the state of the nation!

Posted by: DC staffer | October 14, 2008 5:08 PM | Report abuse

If I sent e-mails to a 17 year old, I would go to jail (or NBC would be at my doorstep). The prostitutes were ADULTS. Dayana must have misunderstood. The committee convened determined that Frank DID NOT know about what was going on in his apartment, so he wasn't "running hookers" as claimed.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Hiding behind the facade of faith and family is a universal to all politicians. The only scandal here is the fact that this Congressman managed to get caught after offering the woman that much money to keep her mouth shut. Its not as though they did anything illegal and its not as thought she was not a consenting adult and a willing participant. Congressman Mahoney is not the president but a congressman; therefore there must be more to this story. By spilling the beans on their relationship she probably would not have gotten her more money or even long last press on the matter. Besides I see no parallel between this and the actions of Congressman Foley, at best you could say that this guy violated the trust of his family by having an extramarital affair. Anyone who thinks that powerful men do not take advantage of that power in some way are self delusional. What people should focus on is whether that abuse of power actual effects the outcome of laws and the state of the nation. Besides we all should be outraged that he risk his political career to have sex with someone who looked like that.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

Aaron,

Both men are pervs. Foley did send dirty emails to underage pages. You are wrong about the age as the minimum age for a page is 16. He did not have sex with any acting pages. He did meet up with two former pages when they were 18 and 21. He is sick and nasty, however that is not as bad as what Mahoney has done.

Mahoney is another perv who did things with a woman that was working for him. That constitutes sexual harrassment just like Foley, but the kicker is what he did next. She broke off the relationship which angered him so he fired her. This is illegal and subsequent to lawsuits. Now there are allegations that he is paying her hush money.

Foley - perverted emails to pages aged 16-17. Sex with former pages aged 18, 21.

Mahoney - affair with current employee. fired employee for ending the affair. attempt to pay off employee with hush money.

Who committed a crime and who is just a sick bastard?

Posted by: dwaede | October 14, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Well dwaede, it depends on the state you're in now doesn't it? In some states like Florida it's illegal to send lewd or obscene items to anyone under the age of 17 if you are over 24 (Florida statute 794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors). So I suppose you should check your facts too.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, please tip your server on the way out....I'll be here all week.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

How is this a curse? The republican tried to get some action from the little boys. The democrat tried to cover up his relationship with a grown woman he wasn't married to. Typical republican and democrat behaviors, and conscious choices on their parts. To call this a "curse" is not at all accurate.

Posted by: matt | October 14, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

He did commit a crime but the tardiness of the report is what set him free. In Florida as you quoted the statute of limitations on such an event is 3 years. I suppose you should check your facts too. The investigation into Foley deemed no criminal charges could be filed.

Do you think such an investigation will now be carried out on Mahoney?

Posted by: dwaede | October 14, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

It's already been said, but it's worth repeating: this is not a "curse," an accident, or black magic. This is simple human moral failure. Any guy who lies to this wife and family should be tossed out. Any guy who fires his mistress because she wants to break up with him should be sued. Any guy who uses public funds to buy off his fired mistress should be in jail. And I'm a Democrat.

Posted by: Malby | October 14, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I totally agree Malby.......
I'm not defending anyone here, just illustrating that they are all in the same boat.

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

At least he is not a racist murder like Barack Obama. You idiots on the Democratic side whine all day long about a few thousand US troops losing their lives in Iraq while 42,000,000 babies are murdered EVERY YEAR by abortion!! You tell me what the difference is between Adolf Hitler and Barack Obama!! NOTHING! What do they have in common though? Their policies lead to GENOCIDE to a people group who the selfish majority decides does not have lives that are more important than their personal comfort. OBAMA IS ANOTHER HITLER!!! A vote for Obama is a vote for an American Hitler.

Posted by: Collin Youaut | October 14, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

There's not only the irony over this happening once again to this particular congressional seat, but there's the ultimate irony as to how and why so many Members end up the creek without a paddle . . . for so little. For the story as to why this really happens, see Wrting Frontier's "It's always the little things" at

http://writingfrontier.com/2008/09/12/the-little-things/

Enjoy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Collin,

SHUT UP. If you want to discuss perverted congressmen and who they sleep with, comment here.

If you want to discuss Obama, I am pretty sure you can find someplace better to post.

Posted by: dwaede | October 14, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

When did the Abortion Clinic Bomber show up?

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

If he was a Republican the New York Times would have this on their front page. They Hypocrisy of the MSM stinks to high Heaven. The MSM is for free speech if you AGREE with them. But, if you don't agree with their point of view you are censored. Such Hypocrisy! What a Joke! The MSM are just like the Wall Streeters who wanted the FREE MARKET to rule when they were ripping off citizens but now have seen the light and want the government to step in to help them from leaving their money.

MSM=HYPOCRISY

Posted by: Tom | October 14, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

collin, i assume you're just trolling for hundreds of hateful, heartfelt replies, but just in case you believe what you said:

"42,000,000 [42 million] abortions."
there's about 150 million females in the country. where did you hear that nearly 1 in 3 american women get an abortion each year?

if only! over 2/3 of the abortions are administered in red states, yet you people are still managing to outbreed the rest of us into a nation of mouthbreathing, ignorant & hateful hicks, but it's probably the fault of we liberals for TOLERATING you for too long.

Posted by: Ja'Marius | October 14, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Well it's nice to know the Democrats and Republicans both like to screw around, I guess Americans are more alike than we knew. Of course Foley was in to boys rather than women, but they both were willing to risk their livelyhood for their passion.

Posted by: captbilly | October 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Well Tom, the Republicans are the ones who preach the wonders of deregulation of the securities market. They are also the first to stand up and preach morality. The reason why Republicans get it worse is because they CLAIM to be the party of morality. I've never seen the evangelical support for the Democrats..EVER. So who's the hypocrite?

You're RIGHT......BOTH OF THEM!!!

Posted by: Aaron | October 14, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

As much as I'm a McCain supporter and I think this will help McCain I do agree with Mahoney that this is a private matter.

I think that when Public Officials are cheating on their spouses with another adult that's a Personal Matter. When you're doing insane stuff like having sex in public bathrooms or hitting on underage House Pages I think that is worthy of public scrutiny. But, if Barney Frank cheats on his boyfriend with another adult or Mahoney cheats on his wife with another adult I don't think it's any of my business. But, if the cheating behavior gets reckless I think it's worthy of scrutiny. If Mahoney was screwing everything that passed him by I definitely think it would be newsworthy because it would raise questions about his judgement. But, I don't think one or two affairs on the side is any of the publics business.

Posted by: Tom | October 14, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

"Well Tom, the Republicans are the ones who preach the wonders of deregulation of the securities market. They are also the first to stand up and preach morality. The reason why Republicans get it worse is because they CLAIM to be the party of morality. I've never seen the evangelical support for the Democrats..EVER. So who's the hypocrite?

You're RIGHT......BOTH OF THEM!!!

Posted by: Aaron"

I agree 100%

Posted by: Tom | October 14, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Stuff a microphone in every Democratic leader and ask: "what did you know and when did you know it?"

If that can't be done, it only once again proves the absolute bias and coruptablity of the liberal news. Can't you see the danger when the so called news has a set of standard for a Democrate and another for a Republician.

I commend the post for atleast publishing the story but it a far cry from the fever and vigor it approached the Foley story.

By the way, check your facts, Foley wasn't charge with a crime, they were Former Pages over 18 & in my opinion, did an honorable thing and left his office.

Posted by: itoldyouso | October 14, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

apart from everything else that's been said, let's just ask for the same standard that rightfully the press has held to all others -- and that usually is simply hypocracy.

Mahoney campaigned in 2006 -- and is campaigning again in 2008 for re-election -- on the slogan "faith and family and personal responsibility."

Ok. No idea about the guy's faith. But "family?" "Personal responsibility?"

Gimme a break .... If this was a Republican, the media would be all over this for the hyprocrisy factor alone.

Posted by: enicol | October 14, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Mahoney is a total jerk -- the voters of Palm Beach County now have the unenviable task of figuring out if his opponent is an even bigger jerk. For news & opinion that actually matters -- including the Republican V-P candidate's incredible ethics challenges (no less than Mahoney's) -- check out RealityChex.com at http://www.realitychex.com

Posted by: Marie Burns | October 14, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Dayana Martinez - just so you know, Barney Frank was not guilty of running a prostitution ring. Unfortunately, it was his lover who was doing that when Frank was out of town. Once Barney found out what was going on, he threw said lover out and stopped the illegal goings on. Get your story straight and stop perpetuating these nasty lies. Of course, since you are a rightwinger, it wouldn't serve your side to be honest.

As a life long Democrat I can say that anyone who indulges in immoral or illegal behavior, especially those in office, should be punished. I don't care what letter they have after their name. Let's not forget that Newt Gingrich was cheating on wife #2 with soon to be wife #3 while condemning Clinton. McCain was committing adultery with Cindy while still married to his first wife. So let's stop complaining about the splinters in the Dems eyes while conveniently ignoring the beam in the Republican's. That's the biggest difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. We won't tolerate misbehavior but the Republicans will never run out of excuses for their candidates.

Posted by: Thedes | October 14, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

how dare he say that he broke NO LAWS!!!!
let him go back and read his matrimonial laws and I am so proud that my relationship with my husband is near perfect because we honour GOD and He is the only one that keep us on a straight road. he is bragging that it is OK what he did and still saying that his voters will maybe vote for him. anyone that votes for him is the same as him.what he does not know and can someone tell him that he has to repent to GOD and not to man!!!! let him repent first because if you broke the law they will be after you.

Posted by: cindy | October 14, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Folks,
If you don't know by now that SIN IS SIN!! and let's question ourselves. how many times a day do we sin!!!. one has to feel compassion for these jerks who do break the law especially against their families.how can you come back to the same house sleep on the same bed with the person that you married and took those sacred vows with.you are the weakest link and need to get kicked out because how many others are you going to spread the virus that you have to others. parents please hide your children from these people that are spreading these viruses.

Posted by: dawn | October 14, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

I am retired from the U.S. Army. I am a Republican and I live in Port Charlotte, Florida in Mahoney's district. I already voted for Mahoney with an absentee ballot. He is a good congressman who does god things for the people in his district. As long as the woman Mahoney was banging was an adult, I could care less. She can be a man, a woman, a tranny, or a rubber doll. I really don't care. Mark Foley is a disgusting pedophile. There is a big difference between adult consensual sex and some pervy drunk abusing minors. Hell would freeze over before I would vote for another Bush-Republican, especially the right-wing, Sarah Palin style, nut job running against Mahoney. Folks, this election is about the economy, not Tim Mahoney's sex life.

Posted by: Mark In Mahoney's District | October 14, 2008 10:49 PM | Report abuse

My first and only cocktail party was a real gas/bust.
http://iconsiglio.blogspot.com
however since it was an anniversary affair of sorts id et I thought that since I was invited by evite.com, that I might as well go along for the, how should I say, thrill of it all?........only to find ,
that anybody that was anybody was hanging around munching on AlecBaldwin BroccoliFlorets as well as CapersOfCurriedCarrots and many other delectable delites ad nauseum.
But as the topic of conversation soon turned to the elections of 2000 Florida and the so called "Thrill of Victory"
I was pleased to switch the topic to Representative Mark Foley whom I had never met.
It seems that Mr Foley a local RealEstate Broker, saw to the end of his Congressional Career from PortStLucie Fl.
He was well known in the area.
However the above noted irony is no more travesty like then Mr Larry Craig or any other constituent who's triying to find out why President George W Bush is the biggest fan of the "The Circle Jerks" since Clive Davis couldn't give them a better deal would know anyway.
As we all know that this led to that and so on and so on I feel relieved to finally say this about that.
Anyway now that the rabbit is out of the hat earlier then the elections are all over again I would hope that someone would find out what the former Governor of Florida Jeb Bush was doing during those years driving around cruising in and out of men's rooms at various JettyParks anyway.
If you all are going to play ball, then you better decide once and for all if it is Hard or Underhanded.
And that's that.

Regards

dePaul Consiglio,
at male eye daVid Benjamin

on this date,
October 14 2008AD

Posted by: dePaul Consiglio NYMetroCityState US | October 14, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Dayana Martinez posts:

"Now the facts: The two pages were 17 years old. That is not a CHILD! By definition, a child is prepubescent."

Perhaps this is YOUR definition. Legally a person is a "minor" until they reach the age of majority, or 18 years old. 17 year-olds are legally minors. But you are correct that Foley was disgusting.

"Also, Foley did NOT have sex but merely sent disgusting emails. It was unethical but not illegal. Barney Frank was running male hookers out of his Washington DC condo. That is ILLEGAL!"

Barney Frank admitted he had sex with a male prostitute. Not that he paid the prostitute. Not that he ran male hookers out of a condo. No evidence has ever been presented to indicate that there was anything more to it than that. Stupid? Yes. But not illegal.

Perhaps you should at least know a little bit about what you are talking about before you shoot off your mouth. And FWIW, it's their own personal business. It's when they LIE about it that it's a problem. It's when they build an entire platform around the idea that homosexuals and wife cheaters are going to rot in he** and should be left out of society only to turn around and pick up men in the restroom or spend their military training in Rio because he's sure to get laid there that it's a problem.

But the biggest problem of all is distracting wee minded folk with fearmongering about someone's sex life while CEO's walk away with a $500 million parachute then get appointed as Secretary of the Treasury and get unlimited powers to distribute $700 BILLION to their buddies. Wake up, America. Karl Rove had this tape and gave it to the girl to tip the presidential election in Florida back towards McCain. Heaven help us all and may God have mercy on our souls.

Posted by: itzbutterz | October 15, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

"I am retired from the U.S. Army. I am a Republican and I live in Port Charlotte, Florida in Mahoney's district. I already voted for Mahoney with an absentee ballot. He is a good congressman....

Posted by: Mark In Mahoney's District | October 14, 2008 10:49 PM"
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Mark, I understand your feelings about the republicans and scarey witch woman Palin... and it is also too bad you didn't get the facts before you voted... but this isn't about Mahoney's sex life. It is about morality, judgement, values and THE LAW! Yes, we all can agree that we don't give a rat's a$$ about his sex life... it is what he done after that. This staffer apparently wanted to screw him over and told him to take-a-hike. He threatened her and then it turned into hush money. Right there is where he crossed the ethical and moral line, to include a few federal laws!

I personally struggled with each moaning day when the republican's controlled the Congress and it was almost weekely, of some corrupt, immoral and law breaking scandal happened. It still disgusts me.

What I have a problem with... these PUKES stand before the media and claim, swear and state firmly they are innocent. I would say, ok, maybe you are... BUT if you aren't, YOU MUST BE CONVICTED, not just slip away from your public position, like Foley. And then there are some that got zilch! Like Larry Craig.

These people think they are above the law and KNOW darn well if they break it, they are powerful enough to sometimes escape it. It happens daily in DC. It's not WHAT you know, it is WHO you know. It's a nasty white-collar corrupt federal mafia... Until you voters start learning that... you'll only bless their actions and the whole corruption...

How do you stop it? QUIT voting for the monopoly political corporations! Never again vote for a Democrat or a Republican! This will stop them! Get your friends and family to understand and do the same... There are other parties out there that have honest and true morals and principles... the MSM won't easily give you their information, you have to search and find it... And remember, most puke politicians running under the independant label is nothing more that a donkey or elephant in disguise...

my 2 cents

Posted by: Ed | October 15, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

It's ridiculous that Americans expect their politicians to be faithful to begin with. We need to grow up.

Posted by: Lee | October 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

ComputerScientistInDC,

You said that "Such misconduct is an indicator of questionable integrity of the politicians."

If someone doesn't have "questionable integrity," they can't enter politics in the first place. It would be like someone who would never be willing to do anything violent becoming a member of the Mafia.

Posted by: Lee | October 15, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Let's see if the Democrats make him step down like they did Foley.

Posted by: lydia15 | October 15, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Base conduct deserves exposure and exposure doesn't excuse high standards.

Posted by: Bobertbobert | October 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

who cares about this crap.....what about these crazy Republicans trying to say ACORN is creating voter registration fraud...So when we(DEMS)do take back the white house, we are going to have to listen to this nonsense.
This voter fraud is pure bunk!! and reeks of DESPERATION!!!

Webster in OHio

Posted by: Anonymous | October 15, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

The Palm Beach seat has become a sexual electric chair for congressional representatives. It should be renamed "Old Sparky."

Posted by: Sgt 524 | October 15, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

This IS different than Foley (who, unlike Gerry Studds, never had sex with a page, but had sex with 2 FORMER pages after when both were over 18).

This is much worse.

Mahoney gave Mistress #1 a taxpayer-funded job, paid her over $100K to keep quiet and tried to get a job that would have been paid through campaign funds. At the same time, Mistress #1 was working for Mahoney's "pleasure", he was also dating Mistress #2 who asked him for millions of dollars in FEMA funding for her county--which Mahoney (with the help of Pelosi and Emmanuel) apparently delivered.

You're not seeing a "GOP attack". Mahoney's own staff and advisors have lost confidence in him and they're leaking like sieves.

It's Democrats that talking to the press off the record because they're trying to distance themselves from a U.S. Congressman under federal investigation.

Ask any reporter that has written on this story whether their sources have been Democrats or Republicans and the answer is universally Democrats.

The real question is whether Pelosi and Emmanuel were aware or not.

If you're a Republican, you should want Mahoney to stay in the race. His Florida congressional district is one that was right-leaning, but was moving towards Obama. Mahoney may very well cost Obama thousands of votes in Florida.

Posted by: law_dog | October 15, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Astonishing. These guys want to be in high-profile positions, and then are surprised when the spotlight they sought catches them doing something unethical, immoral, or illegal.

Posted by: Rivery | October 15, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If you are going to talk about illegal sex, then you would have to take President Bush, Barney Frank, Christopher Dodd, Paulsen, the greedy bankers, mortgage lenders, and stockbrokers, who screwed every adult and underage child in this country!

They had their way with the taxpayers without a kiss or reach around!

As a side note, the Congressman from Florida should resign. If you are not going to be honest with your own family, you will certainly not hesitate to screw the people you represent!

Posted by: Moral Democrat | October 15, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

BOTH MICHEL AND BARACK OBAMA ADMIT THAT THEY BOTH HAD AFFAIRS

Posted by: Anonymous | October 15, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Some senior Democrats have apparently suggested to Mahoney that step down, but let's just say Mahoney isn't the type of guy to take responsiblity for his actions.

The Speaker of the House is a woman, and well, we've all seen how Mahoney treats women....

Posted by: law_dog | October 15, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

The thing that strikes me, after reading the foregoing nonsense, is the sad mental state of my fellow Americans. My heavens, everyone writing on this site is so stupid one could easily believe that the internet was invented by Gore.

Posted by: Thomasite | October 21, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

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