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Biden Camp Preps for Debate: 'Gender Isn't the Issue'

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Aides to Joe Biden think the Delaware senator will be well-served by his primary debate experience against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Steve Helber -- AP)

Don't expect Sen. Joe Biden to go easy on Gov. Sarah Palin in Thursday's first and only vice presidential debate.

Despite all the hype over how the rough-and-tumble, wild-tongued senior senator from Delaware will soften his approach in debating the novice (and female) governor of Alaska, Biden won't pull any punches with Palin, his aides say. He didn't in any of his dozen Democratic presidential primary debates against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), they point out.

"Those debates were substantive and hard hitting," Biden spokesman David Wade tells the Sleuth, "and he debates strong women in the United States Senate."

Wade says "the personal dimension here has been vastly over-hyped. Gender isn't the issue in this debate."

As much as Democratic political junkies may be itching for an exciting theatrical performance out of the debate - especially in light of Palin's devastating, lampoonable interview performance with Katie Couric - or a knockout blow by Biden, the Obama-Biden campaign is downplaying such expectations.

"Voters aren't tuning in for a vice presidential food fight," Wade says.

(They aren't?)

While Palin is holed up at John McCain's posh ranch in Sedona, Ariz., preparing for Thursday night's showdown, Biden is gearing up for the big fight at a converted gym at the not-so-posh Sheraton Suites hotel in Wilmington, or "Wilmo" as campaign aides have taken to calling Delaware's largest city.

The senator is practicing against Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm. Besides being a governor and a woman in her 40s, Granholm also shares the distinction of being a former beauty pageant contestant like Palin.

Obama-Biden campaign sources tell us the practice sessions between Biden and Granholm are "primarily conversation rather than mock debate." Though we feel certain there are plenty of moments of levity when Granholm puts her acting skills to good use. The governor went to a Hollywood acting school and even appeared once on "The Dating Game" show, according to the Detroit Free Press.

Granholm was chosen, aides say, because she proved to be a stellar debater against Amway heir Dick Devos in her own gubernatorial debates in 2006. (Biden's sister, Valerie Biden Owens, was instrumental in selecting Granholm. She was a media consultant to Granholm in 2002 and 2006.)

To get their guy fit for the ring, Obama-Biden campaign officials have been studying video of Palin's debate performances when she ran for governor in 2006 against former Democratic Gov. Tony Knowles. But they're not showing their hand at what they've learned, or how Biden hopes to win.

"The first rule of Fight Club is never talk about Fight Club," Wade tells us. "But I don't think I'm divulging state secrets when I say that the challenge is to make the case for Barack Obama and prosecute the case against John McCain."

Downplaying expectations for Biden's performance, Wade adds: "I think Governor Palin will do well. She's good with the proverbial knife and she can deliver a prepared one-liner and quick jab very effectively. She's a former broadcast journalist who excels on television, and she's a career politician who climbed the ladder by out-debating political legends in Alaska. The format - 90 second answers followed by 2 minute open ended - is tailor made for Governor Palin to shine, while I think Sen. Biden probably had to stretch a little adapting to a format so different from the uninterrupted debates of the United States Senate."

By Mary Ann Akers  |  October 1, 2008; 7:00 AM ET
 
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I cannot believe that more people are not discussing the book written by Qwen about Obama and others. She was clearly a fan. I am an Obama supporter but do not want to have us criticized for not making mainstream America aware of it. This would avoid the discussion after the fact. This woud be like having Oprah moderate the debate.

Posted by: Mary | October 1, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

I'll be tuning in solely to see if Joe can make Sarah cry.

Posted by: Daniel McKernan | October 1, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Daniel McKernan - "I'll be tuning in solely to see if Joe can make Sarah cry."

And how will that be good for the country?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Palin is good at jabbing with the one liners...Biden should stay above the fray, be respectul and answer crisply with short-answers and make the case for Obama.

Let Palin get into a brawl with Gwen Ifil...If Palin knows anything about Ifil's book, she will already prone to be negative toward Ms. Ifil.

Since Ms. Ifil is a skilled interviewer, she won't let Palin get away with giving nonresponsive answers.

Posted by: LES | October 1, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

This ought to be pretty funny. I can't wait.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely! Biden loves nothing more than to do his utmost best to rough-up anyone, especially politically inclined, "uppitty" women. REmember ANITA HILL? Good Ole Joe harassed the woman on end and it was absolutely disrespectful, sexist, and drunkenly inappropriate when he drilled ANita about her sexual harassment by that moron Judge on the bench who wanted her to engage in activities other than legal research. But the j*rk didn't figure that Anita would complain about this. This was almost 2 decades ago, and it's a good thing good Ole Joe the Woman-basher hasn't forgotten how to attach his sexist boxing gloves yet!
This election is between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumbo. No dilemma. No real choice. Let's hope the 18 million cracks won't be plastered upon by the camouflaged misogyny of an unqualified Obama or the overt thoughtlessness of McCain and his bushleague....

Posted by: mary | October 1, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Mary, you have "lampoonable interview performance" as a hit against Palin in your writeup. Don't you think Biden's performance talking about television and president Roosevelt in 1929 would also make for a "lampoonable" moment? Or are only republicans "lampoonable?"

Posted by: jerry up north | October 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin is going to absolutely clobber Sarah Palin. Biden should just not get in her way.

Posted by: Skeptic | October 1, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Palin needs to ruin it for herself-which she will most definitely do. Biden needs to just be there for the ride.

Posted by: Obama-Biden Supporter | October 1, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Is Gwen's book even available to read, no. How can you possibly determine that Gwen is so biased she can no longer be trusted to moderate the debate, when you could not have even read the book. Furthermore, writing a book about someone doesn't mean that the writer is biased towards them. James Corsi wrote a book about Obama and no one is making that claim against him. The things Gwen said during her interviews suggested the book is about more than Obama, about African-American politicians in general. This is a non-issue. I think people are assuming that she favors Obama because she is black, and that's just stupid.

Posted by: Travis | October 1, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I agree with everybody. You can't underestimate Sarah Palin. She has that female succubus kind of energy that draws men to crash on the rocks. If Biden has any sense, he'll be kind and gallant and give her plenty of rope. Let her hang herself, which she surely will, and then move in casually for the coup de grace.

Posted by: susan 7214 | October 1, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/TheMouthPeace

This is a very important video. It is 10 minutes long but it goes fast. Essentially, it outlines how the Democrats are responsible for the raising then the falling of home prices thanks to their pushing and Freddie May/Mac's pushing of subprime loans. Targeting a small segment of the population who want a home but can not hack the payments, these government run businesses(corruption and all) pushed bad loans because that is how they continued to make money$. When this unnatural cause reversed... when people started defaulting home values plunged$$.

Now, how can you argue with that? If I could see this coming how could these experts not see it coming as well. And the fact that 2 times or more the Republicans tried to stop or regulate and the Democrats blocked the regulation well, it makes this their fault.

Yes, it is just possible the Democrats are directly responsible for making an artificial home market completely detached from inflation$$. Prices were influenced by cheap loans and then those loans stopped flowing. This all goes back to the problem with the Democrats they think money$$$ thrown at things fixes everything. Here, they threw money$$$$$$$ at people so they could buy a home--they never even gave a thought (apparently) to how these people would keep their homes.

If you watch the video you will see that Obama himself worked for a law firm that pursued banks to ensure poor people would have access to loans, and homes they could not afford. This is just an aside but it should make you question: Why the heck would you ever give this guy your vote? If you still are thinking you want Obama, just remember, the another wave is coming-- more defaults are coming and these loans (which are not accounted for in the current crisis) will come to term down the line.....this is not over. And remember Mr.. Obama was planning life in public service long before he became a lawyer. His misguided thinking was set long ago in Chicago when he joined Rev. Wrong's church.


This is the misguided thinking, ideology of the Democratic party, that believes throwing money at problems is a solution$$

Posted by: Fred Freid | October 1, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

It's not Dan Quayle I think might be overtaken in the history of VP debates. It's Jim Stockdale.

Let Sarah be Sarah. She'll clobber herself silly.

Here's a quick guide to watching her performance:
If she's using a more standard pronunciation (not droppin' her "g"s) and using coherent fragments, she's accessed one of Schmidt's talking points. It will be fascinating to see how much of those include attacks on the media, "Washington elite", etc.

If she drops into the folksy, "guys and gals", "lemme tell yas", "here in America" she's trying to cobble together pieces in an attempt to synthesize an answer. Up to this point she's been spectacularly unsuccessful.

I expect she will have a stable of 10-15 canned answers, each about 75-80 seconds. Her real task will be to turn Ifill's question into one she can respond to with a standard reply. They are probably going to predict questions based on Palin's lack of qualification for the job.

But maybe not. Maybe Ifill will ask what McCain's position is on an issue -- health care -- and where Palin agrees and/or doesn't agree with it. What her experience has been in that area as governor, etc.

Were I Ms. Ifill, that's the direction I'd go, somewhere Sarah's never been. Those are the kinds of questions Biden has been answering on Meet the Press, etc. for weeks.

My god she's in a lot of trouble.

Posted by: DDS | October 1, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: a noun, a verb and "lipstick"

She will fold up like a cheap pantsuit.

Posted by: DemoDevil | October 1, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

The Obama-Biden campaign should have asked Tina Fey to practice debating with Biden...

Posted by: Captain John | October 1, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Jim Stockdale's shortcoming was being perhaps too intellectual for the average American. He was a hell of a man, a great American, had accomplishments enough for a few lifetimes, and was a humble human being.

Don't even bring his name up in the same breath as this idiot Sarah Palin. It's disgusting.


Posted by: mainer | October 1, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if there is any truth to the actual candidate that bumps off mutual opponent will win in November regardless of debates, issues and poll numbers.

Apparently the mutual opponent exposed corruption within both political parties and is presently targeted.

The question is how?

Will these parties use the popular practice of sweetheart exchange dealing where convicts commit crimes/murders in exchange for less jail time, conveniently covered up and culprits are not suspected?

For example, will GOP use a Guiliani-like mob ties such as used by his protege, ex-NYPD commissioner who got indicted and may be serving up to 140 years in jail? Or Gotti, Jr. who may be available for the gig as he is in the midst of his conspiracy/murder trial?

Will Dems use an OJ Simpson-like black convict with jail time? It appears that he may be available too since he is in the middle of his robbery and kidnapping trial.

As this information is revealed, should we worry about our physical safety too? For example, should we worry about our car being tampered with, walking or jogging in public or sleeping in the middle of the night inside our home as all our habits and plans are known in advanced due to bugging devices? And would such orchestrated attacks once discovered be conveniently considered as 'random' to simply further distract the public from the real truths?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

AS FAR AS RATING PALIN GOES...

Palin's performance will be juxtaposed against other prominant women in politics, Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer. Palin will need to come off as sharp and serious, focused and direct.

Sarah Palin has come this far and rose this high. At this point what's her sex got to do with it? She needs to show Americans that she can articulate the issues and effectively handle conflict and confrontation.

The onus is on Palin to make everyday people believe she will make a competent president.

Posted by: Julie Grey | October 1, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

The issue is that this woman could be a cancer recurrence away from the presidency.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Why has John McCain refused to release his complete medical records?

To see the banned commercial that asks McCain to release his records, along with a more in-depth look at some of the dismal health facts we already know, go to:

http://scootmandubious.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-wont-john-mccain-release-his.html

Posted by: scootmandubious | October 1, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I was interested to learn from your piece that Governor Palin is not the only former beauty pageant winner Governor.

Here's some more beauty pageant winners for you as well, albeit in a different profession.

http://writingfrontier.com/2008/09/24/news-vixens/

Posted by: Writing Frontier | October 2, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Akers: Re-read what you wrote. Are you pretending to be a news reporter? I don't think so. This is pathetically biased. You're obviously in the tank for Obama, so just go ahead and blow off this whole WaPo thing and go blog at dKos or HuffPo.

Posted by: Beldar | October 2, 2008 3:05 AM | Report abuse

All Biden has to do is just show up , and try his best to keep from "Laughing".

Palin has already shown the world she is an unqualified Idiot , and she did that all by herself.

Posted by: James | October 2, 2008 4:27 AM | Report abuse

Mary, you have "lampoonable interview performance" as a hit against Palin in your writeup. Don't you think Biden's performance talking about television and president Roosevelt in 1929 would also make for a "lampoonable" moment? Or are only republicans "lampoonable?"
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Biden meant "radio", as any intelligent being would assume he meant. Obama meant 50 states (or 57 primaries), as any intelligent being would assume he meant.
Palin is a rambling fool, and isn't ever coherent enough for anyone to guess what she is/was/would be attempting to say.

Please stop saying the same things over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Akers: Re-read what you wrote. Are you pretending to be a news reporter? I don't think so. This is pathetically biased. You're obviously in the tank for Obama, so just go ahead and blow off this whole WaPo thing and go blog at dKos or HuffPo.
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No, she's writing a blog. GeorgeSorosHuffingtonMoveOnNewYorkTimesHollywoodLimousineArugulaJaneFondaMaureenDowdKennedy. Grow up.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

The Governor can take bait off a hook as fast as any man. She even likes to debait. ............
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/01/rednecks-for-palin-wasilla-aa/

Posted by: Ohg Rea Tone | October 2, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Hello!

Aides to Joe Biden think the Delaware senator will be well-served by his primary debate experience against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Steve Helber -- AP)

I thought Biden was debating with Palin.

Posted by: zieras | October 2, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait...I'm hoping Palin will make Biden look like a total ass.

Then again, this is Biden we're talking about. Just let him talk. He won't need any help from Sarah!

Posted by: NObama | October 2, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

YES WE CAN,YES WE CAN! FIRED UP AND READY
TO GO!I see the repubs are calling foul
already! shucks we can't help it that she is as DUMB HAS A MOOSE! NOT OUR FAULT Rush
and party!hannity is on his monthy!and
rush is in a cardic sweat attack,I just
love it!

Posted by: Bullwinkle J Moose | October 2, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Biden should have practiced with Tina Fey.

Posted by: ginger | October 2, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama is just another politician that will do or say whatever it takes to fulfill his political ambitions. Barack is calculated and methodical about hiding his true convictions and intentions, and uses deception to get elected.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama had a 20 year association with his religious leader and priest Jeremiah Wright, who became Barack's idol and role model. Jeremiah married Barack and Michelle and baptized both their daughters. AND, we all remember the hideous videos of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation which included the Obamas, damning America with bombastic joy, after the Muslim’s criminal attack on America on 9/11.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack's religious leader Jeremiah Wright used his tax-exempt church to exercise a radical political agenda, and he refers to Israel, as well as America, as a "racist" State. Theologically Barack's religious leader Jeremiah Wright believes that the true 'Chosen People' are the blacks; He believes that black values are superior to middle-class American values, and that blacks should isolate themselves from the wider American society.
 Indeed Barack's religious leader Jeremiah Wright is a black supremacist.

The time is now!
To remind Americans that Barack Hussein Obama wants to be president to implement Jeremiah Wright’s dream of a black supremacist society in America.

The time is now!
For Americans of all political parties to come together to preserve the future of the country we love by voting for John McCain for President of the United States of America.

Country First!
Americans for John McCain/Sarah Palin

Posted by: Manolete | October 2, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me that all Biden has to do is project steadiness. Palin clearly needs to shake things up, which necessarily carries the appearance of risk and confusion - not things most Americans are looking for right now. If Biden can simply reinforce Obama's calmness and competence, it is all over. Palin needs Biden's help in taking Biden down. I think he should ignore Palin tonight.

Posted by: jim | October 2, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm putting on some popcorn, and getting ready for some more comedy from Palin.

She's like a deer caught in headlights when asked a question. She goes off track thinking nobody will notice she derailed.

I especially love how she looks at the interviewers like they have 4 heads on every question she's asked.

This woman could interview for a Seinfeld stint.

Posted by: Roof | October 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Everybody is waiting for Palin to fold on the "gotcha" questions. After years in the Senate, Biden will be able to handle the questions. So we will praise Biden and criticize Palin for her "lack of knowledge" on the issues, and go right back to electing the leaders, like Biden, who are responsible for putting us in a horrible financial situation. I agree, Palin isn't up on all the issues. Can she do a worse job if she becomes president during a McCain term than what we have now? The people of Alaska thinks she is doing a good job. Are they all back woods fools? We need to know what Palin's philosphy on governing is and nothing more. The same applies to the other rookie in the election - Barack Obama.

Posted by: Jeff in Orlando | October 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

If I could vote I think that Obama and Biden would do a better job than McCain and Palin. And screw you Manolete because most of the people I know don't give a damn about Obama's middle name.

Posted by: Anonymous Student | October 2, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Anyone that moderates any of the debates is going to be voting for only one of the candidates...I think that is how it works in the USA. So, how do you have someone moderate that is totally impartial???? Gwen will do a great job. She is a professional.

Posted by: Lee Ann O | October 2, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

C-Span ran the 1984 VP debate of Geraldine Ferraro and George H.W. Bush this morning.
Therein lies a lesson of mutual respect on the manner in which the candidates handled themselves 24 years ago.

Posted by: djcb | October 2, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Dear Manolet,

"The time is now . . . "for you to learn a new rhetorical device. Too much repetition becomes, what do we call it? repetitive.

As for your point that Obama is a politician. Guess what, Sherlock, most politicians are. The real question is who can bring the country together and help dig us out from under the pile of rubble left behind by the Bush babies.

McCain and Rove and Schmidt and Palin, will be more and more of the same.

No he McCain't. Chris Brown in Hamburg

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Maybe Gwen should ask questions, which Palin could answer.

How long is a hockey stick?

When President of the PTA, did you serve cookies?

Can you ride snowmobiles in the Summer?

How did you feel, when you got 900 votes compared to 650 in the Mayors race?

I see your 3.5 mile Gravel Nowhere Road leading to the Nowhere Bridge has been completed @ a mere cost of $25 Million. Is this one of your biggest successes since being Govenor?

Posted by: Kirby in Ohio | October 2, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Palin does well when she has rehearsed and tonight she will be parroting the mini-speeches that have been fed to her by her handlers, adding her usual "perky" and nasty zingers.
Even if she comes out swinging, the Katie Couric interviews revealed the reason the McCain team has kept Palin locked up and away from interviews with the rest of the media: The woman knows nothing about national affairs nor foreign policy and does not deserve to be considered for high office.
We now fully understand why she went to 4 colleges in 6 years.

Posted by: lauri | October 2, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I am waiting for another one of McCains, antics to drop, like pulling her out at the last minute. I don't think Joe should go into this debate with kid gloves on, she is a heartbeat away from being President and should be able to answer any tough question put to her, just like Biden should be able to answer them without having to worry about making her look more incompetent ,she has already done that to herself. Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Joanne, Kenosha, WI | October 2, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

You are not voting for Palin or Biden. I just hope to be able to assess whether these two complement and compliment the top of the ticket. Like it or not - George Bush / Dick Cheyney shared similar philosophys as did Clinton/Gore. My problem is the unpredictability of "mavericks" (their words) in this increasingly dangerous world where the US Presidents decisions affect the planet - not only the american voters.

Posted by: peterpock | October 2, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Palin will be all right, she said she read them all, everything in front of her, but cannot tell us the names of what she read.
Palin can talk and talk and talk, she was a sports reporter for KTUU, Anchorage's NBC affiliate.

Posted by: GHM | October 2, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

It's pretty sad that the "story" of this debate will be whether one candidate says something stupid or will the other look like a sexist brut. That we have been reduced to personality instead of policy is a very sad statement about how far this nation has fallen.
Think about it - a true statesman being reduced to practicing against a former beauty queen, not for her skill as a politician but her experience AS a beauty queen, just so he can debate another beauty queen. Gawd, it boggles the mind.

Posted by: A lady in Tampa | October 2, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Are you kidding?

"While Palin is holed up at John McCain's posh ranch in Sedona, Ariz., preparing for Thursday night's showdown, Biden is gearing up for the big fight at a converted gym at the not-so-posh Sheraton Suites hotel in Wilmington, or "Wilmo" as campaign aides have taken to calling Delaware's largest city."

Palin is "holed-up". "posh" vs. "not-so-posh".

I wonder who the writer of this article is voting for?

Posted by: Lincoln | October 2, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Republicans seem to equate a lack of experience for a virtue.They use to like George W. because "you can have a beer with him".They despise educated professionals. They now like Palin because they think she's a six-pack real person like them. So , the bar gets lowered.Who will reform Sarah? I mean following this line of logic;shouldn't we continue to elect people who are less fortunate and uneducated out there. Let's see if there are more people living in trailers and elect Bubbles as president.

Posted by: Ray Gassi | October 2, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm sick of how he should treat her. Don't be rough, let her hang herself. No, Joe treat her as you treated Hillary with the same respect you showed Barack. It's not gender based. it's country based. Take it to her. Take her out. Knock her out! this talk about treating her different because she's a woman is offensive to me, a woman.
She needs to show me what she has, all the foreign leaders will not say, you're gorgeous. It's a Democrat and a Republican that happened to be a man and a woman. This is too serious of an election for this nonsense, who gives the best one liners. Are you kidding me? Sarah had better not let me down, an independent woman. Stand up and fight, pretend you're intelligent. Who want a VP or President that was given soft balls in a debate.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah is awesome: wonderfully perfect in her toothy lack of depth of knowledge about national and world politics, stunning in her sexy ways of not answering questions that a high school student could answer, and has a nice body.
I would think she could make a good addition to Hooters.

Posted by: Palinlover | October 2, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait for those sexy and hot Palin "zingers"......oh i am on the edge of my seat waiting to see how she is going to zing her way to victory. Be afraid people..........be very afraid


Zingers -- get them hot, while they last

Posted by: maryjoe | October 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

You can put lipstick on a fool and you still have a fool. Biden will destroy Palin. Well Palin will do that all by her lonesome. Maybe she should just go up on stage alone and become the laughing stock of the country.

What a joke.

Posted by: The Rodentman | October 2, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Biden shouldnt go easy on Palin. I think he is the only liberal that isnt underestimating Palin. She is going to give him a run for his money.

http://www.FastArizona.com/McCain.html

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"I cannot believe that more people are not discussing the book written by Qwen about Obama and others. She was clearly a fan. I am an Obama supporter but do not want to have us criticized for not making mainstream America aware of it. This would avoid the discussion after the fact. This woud be like having Oprah moderate the debate."


This is not NEW information. If the McCain camp is surprise, it is once again from not doing a thorough job of investigating. Considering how substantially they had the format changed, I hardly doubt that is the case. They would prefer to keep her, so they can cry mistreatment later...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

So, Ms.Palin...were you at all surprised to find out that the rest of America is not as stupid as the majority of Alaskans? And can you assure us that - if elected to office - you and McCain could rectify that situation and bring ALL of America down to the intellectual level of a 5th grader?

Posted by: Laurie | October 2, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Another ridiculously biased article by the post. And people wonder why conservatives listen to Talk Radio. The mainstream media is really on some other s**t. Give us major media outlets and primetime news, and you guys can have the AM Radio. Shoot, we'll let you have one liberal news station too.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"Let's hope the 18 million cracks won't be plastered upon by the camouflaged misogyny of an unqualified Obama"


Obama misogynistic? How about McCain who ditched his handicapped ex-wife for his wealthy, attractive mistress.

"Sexist" would be treating a woman any differently because she was a woman. "Sexist" is not refusing to let a woman get preferential treatment just because she is a woman...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

In an article in Washington Post.com Palin said she wasn't aware sexism even existed in the workplace.
Do we really want a women this ignorant to our plight?
She's as naive as a five year old, and she could possibly be our next vice president!
She's an anti-feminist, if anything she'll throw women back a few centuries!

I don't care for Biden either, but at least he lives in the 21st century.

Posted by: Was4Palin | October 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

This election is a referendum to find out how intelligent the american people are about electing a president and a VP without injecting race and gender, but if they are this country is in real trouble and God help us all

Posted by: Joe | October 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

You can give a monkey a pretty speech, but at the end of the day he's still a monkey.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to the zinger-nation ladies and gentleman. Tonight a fight to the end... and here are the contestants. In one corner zing-a-dingding Palin, and in the other Joe "wildman" Biden. To make things fair, zinger Palin will go first -- ladies first, people.

My Palin questions for tonight. I think she can answer these:

1. Knock knock?
2. How many toes do you have?
3. What comes after the number 2?
4. And my hard one just in case she really gets all smart and stuff: Is Canada a foreign country?

Good night and thank you for all watching.

Posted by: Ifill-fillin | October 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes Biden did make a gaff with the TV thing...but I'm sure he could tell us the name of one newspaper. Just saying.

Posted by: Adam Chamberlain | October 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Didn't the moderator also write a positive biography of John McCain? She has written books on both candidates to my knowledge.

Posted by: Khadir | October 2, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama think there's 57 states in the Union. Assasinate the dude, lynch him. Wow, he must be an idiot. For real, for real, liberals hold your candidates up to the same standards.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe that the Republicans will put fofrward such a dumb vice presidential candidate. Thanks McCain for the Christmas gift. Palin is an embarrassment to vice presidential campaigns and Biden will knock her out clean.

Posted by: Dennis | October 2, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Let Sarah be Sarah" seems to be the GOP rallying cry. How dare we ask her to answer questions coherently.

Posted by: Julie | October 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

"Please stop saying the same things over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over..."


That is the Republican mantra, repeat it enough times and it becomes true...

...at least you convince yourself that it is true...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

why is Bidem prepping for this debate.Palin repped for this and was said to be not ready because she did by the media does that make Biden not read? Or is just one sided?

Posted by: sue | October 2, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Biden is a notorious plagiarizer. I wonder who's words he's going to steal for tonight's debate? At least Palin is sincere and speaks from the heart; unlike the overly scripted Obama bin Biden team, with their 500 advisors pulling their puppet's strings.

Posted by: RM | October 2, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

So your saying it's a good thing that Palin doesn't think before she speaks?

RM

Some people might want some one who actually uses their brain. Perhaps you don't use yours that's why you sympathize with her so much.

Posted by: woooo | October 2, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

If the banks would have given the so-called unprivileged and irresponsible homeowners fixed mortgages even at higher rates, we would not be in this mess. People forget that in America there is a dream. Sorry for the fact that people are not perfect, conservatives should know this better than anybody. Sorry the teachings of the lord only count for the wealthy and privileged. We are so insensitive, as a society democrats and republicans. Think about it! You have the chance to own a home, life has taught you it is not possible, but then some snake in a suit tells you it is. To overwhelmed with joy to question the snake, you sign a contract on a home with an ARM, not even knowing what an ARM loam is. That is how it happened joy of possibility not prepared for reality. God is the judge, conservatives or were you sleeping during that sermon also.

Posted by: None Your | October 2, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

How would it be good for the country to see Joe Biden make Palin cry? Oh, I don't know, so perhaps so we don't end up with another idiot president like W should McCain die in office were he to be elected? Get a freaking clue. Of course, many voters are so incredibly stupid that a Palin breakdown would probably be used as a reason to vote for her. Boo freaking hoo.

Posted by: Rick56 | October 2, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I love how when Palin reveals herself to be ignorant on everything from the cause of global warming, the horror that a girl would experience if raped & impregnated by her own father, the Bush doctrine, and Supreme Court decisions...it's the fault of the "liberal media". Where the hell was the liberal media when G.W. Bush was dragging us into war with Iraq? or hiding his DWI's and drug history?

Posted by: justine | October 2, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I truly hope that the McCain campaign handlers encourage Sarah Palin to "be Sarah Palin." The perception that they are keeping a lid on her and holding her back is so fascinating to me. I love that conservatives want her to go even farther off the deep end than she already is. What we all need to do is step back for a minute and look at this election in the big picture. As soon as you do that, you see Palin for the parlor trick that she is. This could go down in history as the worst political move by a major party in an election year. Mark my words...

Posted by: Will S | October 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I think people are assuming that she favors Obama because she is black, and that's just stupid.

Posted by: Travis


ACTUALLY it would be because part of the title is " THE AGE OF OBAMA"

Therein lies the dilemma.

Posted by: johnny bravo | October 2, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"Palin is "holed-up". "posh" vs. "not-so-posh".

I wonder who the writer of this article is voting for?"


You're right. Mansions are just like converted gymnasiums, or even tin shacks...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Reality check. Every moderator supports one candidate or the other candidate. Should we just assume because we know which candidate she supports that she is less capable of being a professional journalist that any of the other previous debate moderators

Posted by: wg | October 2, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This is sad. Judging Palin and calling the outcome prematurely, simply because she's been unfairly ridiculed in a few interviews. I can't wait to see Binen fall flat on his ass.

Mary, learn to write without showing your ignorant and biased opinion. You might get a better response next time.

Posted by: Bryan | October 2, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

This whole conversation amazes me. The woman is interviewing for a job which requires - one of the very few things it does require - that she be able to assume the job of ruler of the free world on a moment's notice. We're at war, if nobody's noticed, and her principal is rattling the saber at two more countries, both of which have allies who aren't very happy with us right now.

It's got precisely nothing to do with what bathroom the candidate uses, and if it weren't so sad and scary it would be funny to see Governor Palin's supporters having the vapors because their candidate can't be asked to know anything specific about the country she wants to lead.

Everyone does realize the future is at stake, right?

Posted by: Julia | October 2, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

If that one small mistake that Obama made saying "57" states when he meant he'd vistited "47" - if that is the ONLY gaffe that Republican posters can drag up about Obama, who obviously knows how many states there are... then I think we've won.

Posted by: Elias William | October 2, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Why this article is an anger-making chunk of trash:

It doesn't mention the fact that, Gov. Granholm was a "Beauty Queen" and student of an acting school, all before the age of 21. It also doesn't mention that she graduated from UC-Berkeley with degrees in Political Science and French, and a JD from Harvard Law School.

Granholm is more than overqualified to be a Sarah Palin stand in.


Yea, Mary Ann Akers, you're some kind of "sleuth."

Posted by: Michigan voter | October 2, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

If people weren't looking for sensationalism this debate wouldn't be such a hot topic. People love to see the mighty fall, whether they are politicians or celebrities. I hope Biden doesn't underestimate Palin, she comes across as a dingbat sometimes but she isn't THAT dumb, she's just in over her head.

I was offended that McCain chose to throw a random woman at female voters with the assumption that we wouldn't worry our pretty little heads about the issues. Golly, wouldn't it be nifty to have a lady as the president's little helper?

Posted by: Tini | October 2, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"Obama think there's 57 states in the Union. Assasinate the dude, lynch him. Wow, he must be an idiot. For real, for real, liberals hold your candidates up to the same standards"

Totally inappropriate!!

Posted by: Lipstick | October 2, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"This is sad. Judging Palin and calling the outcome prematurely, simply because she's been unfairly ridiculed in a few interviews."


Unfairly ridiculed? She flopped two of the most gentle interviews EVER given to a political candidate. The ridiculing was what followed...


"I can't wait to see Binen fall flat on his ass."


Biden will never fall flat on his ass. He is an experienced politician and public speaker. He may put his foot in his mouth, but that is another story...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

We can argue about Ms. Akers bias until the cows come home, but I don't think we have to. Bias or not, there is simply no way left to argue the Gov. Palin is even remotely capable of handling the job of VP. I think any even half way sane person (republican or democrat) should be able to see that by now.

The issue of this debate is not about whether or not Joe knows more than Sarah, or whether he is rude to her, or (god forbid) what kind of shoes she's wearing. The issue is quite simply to have one last chance to look at our backup quaterbacks and make a descision as to who could handle the country best should the need arise.

There is a lot of talk about McCain's age being an issue, but I think we also have to understand that Obama's race is an issue. As the first black president he will be at a much higher risk for assasination attempts (unfortunately many American's are still living like it's pre-civil war). Point being, the VP's in this election carry much more weight on both sides of the ticket than is typical. We as a people, need to look at which of these two would do the least damage if the worst were to happen.

Yes, I'm voting for Obama. Yes, I'm a democrat, but I can easily see why some might like John McCain. I just ask you to be cautious, and realize that Sen. McCain has made a very risky decision putting Gov. Palin on this ticket.

Posted by: Andy in PA | October 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I always find it funny that when the republicans aren't put on a pedestal and praised as God-like, the article is suddenly left-wing liberal biased. Go back to watching your Faux News and quit whining. And when you want to return to reality, check out the real journalists and media outlets.

Posted by: Patrick | October 2, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Funny how the most racist and fearmongering remarks on here are posted by "anonymous".
Not even a first name? Scared are we??

Posted by: Shirley | October 2, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The world is coming to end! Be scared because the black people are rising up and God-forbid they are not white.
A doofus VP pick and an angry old curmudgeon are a better combination than an educated and brilliant black man who is working with an experienced white foreign policy expert. This black/white mixing has to stop now!! Let me repeat: a white doofus is ALWAYS better than an intelligent minority.

I'm John McCain and I approve this message.

Posted by: howdydoody | October 2, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"There is a lot of talk about McCain's age being an issue, but I think we also have to understand that Obama's race is an issue. As the first black president he will be at a much higher risk for assasination attempts (unfortunately many American's are still living like it's pre-civil war). Point being, the VP's in this election carry much more weight on both sides of the ticket than is typical. We as a people, need to look at which of these two would do the least damage if the worst were to happen."


Not to mention the right-wing, evangelical, pro-life, creationist nut jobs that might want to see a President Palin...

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse


Andy, you are right on. Statistically just the fact of being a VP you have about a 20% possibility of becoming the president as it has happened 8 times in our history, this is not a small number. For governor Palin you need to factor in senator McCain’s age and medical history. Sadly, you do need to look at senator Obama’s race and our countries history of racial tension as an actuarial factor. All that being considered I think it’s appropriate that these VP candidates are indeed look at as potential presidents.

Myself, I just don’t think governor Palin has the experience or aptitude for the job. If I’m wrong then why are they hiding her? If I’m wrong why not come in front of the cameras and reports and prove me wrong? Oh, the reporters are not nice? Guess what, neither is the job of VP or president, you wont get a pass on that so you don’t get one now. She has stated she believes in transparent government yet has not backed that up at all with access to her or cooperation with the Alaskan state investigation that she is under. I personally have had enough of inaccessible, secretive, spy on Americans, were above the law, and answer to nobody govt we have been living under the past eight years.

Posted by: FreeTradeIsNotFree | October 2, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Biden: smart, experienced, loquacious yet makes good points
Palin: poorly educated, ignorant, and unable to answer basic questions

They may both make gaffes, but what is interesting is that Biden has the brains/experience under the hood. This is the critical piece that is truly lacking in Palin. Palin really has nothing to offer except as a trophy VP. What is scary is that she is one McCain tumor away from the presidency. That is incredibly scary. The oldest president ever to take office along with probably the dumbest VP ever? Please people people people. Stop with the arguments and think logically.

Sorry folks, Palin just does not cut the mustard.....but she may be able to cut the cheese without difficulty.

Posted by: howdydoody2 | October 2, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Essentially, it outlines how the Democrats are responsible for the raising then the falling of home prices thanks to their pushing and Freddie May/Mac's pushing of subprime loans
Posted by: Fred Freid

What kind of spin was that? Michelle Malkin's?
The US Congress has had a Republican Majority since January 1995, the Democrats gained a slim majority in January 2007 (with a Republican President ready to veto anything the Democrats stand for...) and have been "in power" for just 21 months and "they" are responsible for this debacle?
What kind of kool-aid are you drinking Fred F Reid?

Posted by: JRCB | October 2, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

So I was just watching an interview on CNN with Joe Lieberman talking about how he defends Gov. Palin's VP bid. It was embarrasing. He kept saying how smart and down to earth she was, and he couldn't come up with a single example of why he felt that way. Oh Joe, how sad you are now that you have your blinders on.

Posted by: Andy in PA | October 2, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Are we interested in knowing how Palin and Biden will govern if elected, or are you only interested in someone who can answer all the "gotacha" questions relating to the sometimes sordid history of this country over the past 40 years? If you are interested in the former you vote McCain/Palin. If you are for the latter, vote Obama/Biden. If Biden is your choice you get the candidate that can answer all the questions (25 years in the Senate), but also was part of the congress that brought us to the mess we are now facing.

Posted by: Jeff in Orlando | October 2, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Watching Sarah Palin over the last week, I noticed that she shows all the signs of stage fright when asked questions she can't answer--a racing mind that fragments sentences and pastes together multiple thoughts into unintelligable verbal strings,and the disgorging of 'chunks' of
thought full of 'deadwood' (as one columnist noted) when the brain refuses to cooperate. Clips of her from her Alaska campaigns show a more naturally calm,self assured candidate. But then, she appeared to know the issues and the playing field and her opponents seemed to know her better as well. Talking points mean nothing to a speaker who has no grasp of the issues. Under pressure, what little one does know simply evaporates and the remembered-by-rote talking points is what comes out. While I am not defending her--she acts like she is willing to take the punches for her obvious gaffes--I think McCain and his boys were sadly ignorant of how much time a candidate needs to mature. All the books, magazines, and 'other sources' in Sarah's stable of information aside, there is no substitute for good old-fashioned practice. She needs it and right now hasn't done enough of it.

Posted by: americanactive | October 2, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Has it occurred to anyone that everything is happening exactly according to plan? This thing is a chess game and you never see the strategy that puts you in checkmate because you've been distracted by the strategy your opponent wants you to see.

I predict that the Sarah Palin I watched in the Alaska Gubernatorial debates will make a return tonight and Biden will wake up tomorrow morning wondering how that "dumb" woman got the best of him.

Let us not forget that from the moment GWB was declared the Republican Presidential nominee back in 2000, the media spin machine kept going on and on about how dumb he was. Yep - so dumb that he won the Presidency. Twice. Now you tell me, how dumb is he really?

Posted by: Muad'dib | October 2, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN PICK_UP A DIMWITTED COCKTAIL WAITRESS,WHOSE BEST FEATURE IS HER GLASSES.

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 2, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Wow NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, that was a great comment that added a lot to the discussion. (Right)

Posted by: Muad'dib | October 2, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

TIME TO RETIRE WITH WHATEVER IS LEFT OF YOUR DIGNITY,AND A GRACEFUL WAR MONSIEUR MCCAIN.

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 2, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

YES,MUAD'DIB!!!

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 2, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Bill Maher said it best: "Sarah Barracuda, meet Joey The Shark!"

Posted by: Ouch Time | October 2, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

CHANGE WE BELIEVE IN

Posted by: Hades | October 2, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Staged "debate" dance now ready for 24/7 consumption.
Bailout Barack Obama w/partner Bailout John McCain.

Full-spectrum media suppression/distortion
target Ralph Nader and Ron Paul.

Your vote is your power,
they fear it, use it.

Posted by: Paul & Nader v Bailout! | October 2, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a weak sister, for she has not been trained in the Weirding Way. Truly, Biden will take her water tonight. Is Palin a pet perhaps? Deserving of Bidens' SPECIAL ATTENTION?

Posted by: Kwisatz Haderach | October 2, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"Are we interested in knowing how Palin and Biden will govern if elected, or are you only interested in someone who can answer all the "gotacha" questions relating to the sometimes sordid history of this country over the past 40 years? If you are interested in the former you vote McCain/Palin. If you are for the latter, vote Obama/Biden. If Biden is your choice you get the candidate that can answer all the questions (25 years in the Senate), but also was part of the congress that brought us to the mess we are now facing."

Comments like these make absolutely no sense... don't vote for Obama because Biden was a member of Congress? So was John McCain, are you not going to vote for him either? When, exactly, was this mess made? It's not something that happened overnight, it's been building for years. And who had control of the Congress and the White House? ... not the Democrats. It's sure easy to place blame when you ignore reality.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 2, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin is toast. Silly bimbo. Perhaps she will read a newspaper for the first time today, yes? Or study any supreme court rulling other than Roe v Wade? Indeed, she may be too busy making sure Putin does not invade Alaska. This debate is sauce for the goose. McBush is cooked.

Posted by: Bush III - Lame Duck Walking | October 2, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Cons have been winning elections, despite their pro-corporate policies against American people and their militaristic and imperialistic policy against poor and small countries.

The secret of their electoral votes lies in a single word: HORMONES or EMOTIONS. They are master in exploiting religious and nationalistic, more accurately jingoistic, hormones. Now, after horrible 8 years that squandered our budged, destroyed our economy, discredited American image, yes after dozens of major scams, incompetence and betrayal, now they are adding another hormone: or PALIN!

America is in decline, because of the exploitation of those hormones!

Peace,
Edip

Posted by: Edip Yuksel | October 2, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Seeing how the McCain campaign got special "girl rules" put in place for this debate, I doubt Biden has anything to worry about as far as insulting Palin. The whole debate is designed to make sure that Palin only has to give soft-ball answers.

Posted by: Rick W | October 2, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Lapin a white rabbit Alice in wonderland the mad hatter.
Did we misspell Palin? It doesn't matter as this person's CV does not fit her for the job of President of the USA. John McCain's judgment is flawed - but his own EGO demanded that he choose someone who would never be seen as more competent than himself.
Barack Obama chose Biden because Biden is demonstrably very competent.

Posted by: Richard Donaldson-Alves | October 2, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

i am so tired of hearing from the re(dundant)publicans as to why barack didnt pick hillary to be the VP on the ticket. how about anyone maybe summizing that she didnt want to be. maybe she wants a cabinet seta, maybe he sees her there too. when you are vp it makes it hard to go against your prez in four years. also - these re(cycled)publicans need to go see the doc about their amnesia and remember how they attacked hillary and told her to take it in the big boys world. well tell it to your inexperienced chic on your ticket who cant hold a candle to hillary - stop whining for her. i want biden to attack her with ever respectable measure he can. we could have gone there a while back and sent over 20+ STRONG politically experienced and educated women of our party to cut palin in half. but we have more class than that. anyway...palin is doing her own party and ticket in all by herself. i am a black woman who is a clinton loyalist, and not because she is a woman. i had no hesitation in backing obama and was very happy to see him choose biden. dont worry we havent heard the last of hillary!barack is too smart to not bring her in his cabinet somewhere. we dems have a chance to change history in more ways than one. this isnt just about the white house, its about ousting so much more...ousting all of the damage the republicans have caused the past 8 years nationally, internationally, financially, and socially. i am sure the debate will bring the last of the "palin" wave to their senses. Congratulations to Barack Obama and Joe Biden...our next President and VP!

Posted by: china | October 2, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

D STUDENT OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLL MILLIONAIRE CRASH EVERY PLANE MCCAIN WAS A D STUDENT,AND GRADUATE LAST IN HIS CLASS.
MCCAIN,AND MCBUSH OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLL MILLIONAIRE SHARE FAILED ACADEMIC RECORDS.
D STUDENT OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OILLLL MILLIONAIRE CRASH EVERY PLANE MCCAIN IS ALSO INTERNET ILLITERATE WHIH SLOW DOWN HIS INFORMATION PROCESSING CAPACITY.IS THIS GOOD FOR AMERICA!!!!


IRISH AMERICAN AND HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA WORKED HARD,AND BECAME PRESIDENT OF THE HAVARD LAW REVIEW.
IRISH AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA'S HAVARD SCHOLARSHIP RANKS AMONG THE BEST.
IRISH AMERICAN,AND HAVARD LAW SCHOLAR BARACK OBAMA HARD WORK REPRESENT THE AMERICAN DREAM.

NETHERLANDS ANTILLES

Posted by: NETHERLANDS ANTILLES | October 2, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin wiped out Joe Biden! She is a real person. You want some robot to lead our country? I love America and I will pledge to the flag with my hand over my heart. I want somewhere to protect us, not someone who wants to distroy us. Blacks vote for black and americans vote for justice.

Posted by: Joe | October 2, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

good for a great laugh...

Found this on another comment page.. GREAT LAUGH!!!!

Didn't have any major issues with Palin before last night??? Her VP acceptance speech was very poised but in the debate last night she really seemed to lack a lot of qualities that a national candidate needs to encompass.

Here's a Republican blog that really questions Palin's position on the ticket and suggests that she's hurting McCain.
http://www.greenfaucet.com/blogs/hanlons-pub

Also includes the Katie Couric video about the newspapers Palin reads.

Priceless.

Posted by: j.b.wargo | October 3, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Grampa needs to go take a nap and Hacky Mam needs to go back to guarding Alaska from the Russians. THESE two dimwits are what America needs right now? what a joke!

Posted by: Democrats 08 | October 3, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

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