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Palin Alleges Media Double Standard in Letterman Spat

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says late-night talk show host David Letterman owes all young American women an apology for his joke about one of her daughters getting "knocked up" by baseball star Alex Rodriquez. She also said the media has largely heeded President Obama's plea to keep his family off limits, while continuing to attack hers.

"They did leave his family alone," Palin said, appearing on NBC's "Today Show" this morning. "They haven't done that on the other side of the ticket... So that is a political double standard."

Palin reiterated that she believes Letterman's joke was directed at her 14-year-old, Willow. She told host Matt Lauer that he is "extremely naive" if he believes Letterman's "convenient excuse" that his joke was directed instead at 18-year-old Bristol Palin, an unwed mother.

Asked if she felt Letterman owes her an apology, Palin said, "He doesn't have to apologize to me. I would like to see him apologize to young women across the country." (Her comments about Willow come around 3:40 into the video above.)

On his show Monday night, Letterman lampooned the Palin family's visit to a New York Yankees game this way: "There was one awkward moment during the seventh inning stretch. Her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."

Palin had suggested Letterman is a pervert who cannot be trusted around teenage girls, saying in a statement issued by her office, "It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."

Lauer asked the governor if that was a fair comment in retrospect. She replied, "Willow no doubt would want to stay away from David Letterman after he made such a comment."

Palin also criticized a celebrity like Letterman "being able to get away with a disparaging comment that does erode a young girl's self-esteem and does contribute to some of the problems we have in society."

Letterman has apologized -- somewhat -- for his joke. But the feud continues, as conservative women's groups jump on the Letterman-bashing bandwagon with Palin and Letterman soaks up the attention -- and, he hopes, possibly boosts his ratings.

By Mary Ann Akers  |  June 12, 2009; 10:39 AM ET
 
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If memory serves it would seem one of her daughters certainly did get knocked up, so who exactly is Letterman supposed to apologize to? The one who did get knocked up or the one who has yet to get knocked up?

Gee, what a thought provoking debate this could inspire. Yawn...

Posted by: MichelleH | June 12, 2009 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Does she think she needs to constantly whine and complain to stay in the news?

Posted by: spidey103 | June 12, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Palin- You dumb bunny. The joke is that you hold yourself out to be a religious right wing conservative with religious-right affiliations but you are truly the evil troll Letterman parodies you to be. Your 1st kid was knocked up when she was underage. You were some lame beauty contestant shaking it in front of a cadre of persons judging you on your appearance. You went on SNL to parody yourself (and SNL has always been known for taste and class right?). And you are the one to disrespect a senator of our United States by suggesting he is a terrorist and socialist because he is a different skin color and has a muslim name. You hypocritical cow, hopefully Willow can see Letterman's humor and your attempt to demonize yet another person in order to advance your own interest and celebrity. You disgusting pig. Yours truly, a Fellow Republican.

Posted by: Republican4Obama1 | June 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin is and continues to be a low-class un qualified waste of time and energy. She put her children in this situation. Maybe should spend more time on her parenting skills, and help her grandchild born out of wedlock, and her un-wed teenage daughter who is a mother and probably the victim of her parents lack of parental skills.

Posted by: lildg54 | June 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

For cripes sakes, Sarah. Go back to freaking backwater Wasilla already. Probably everyone but this numbnuts took Letterman's remark to be about Bristol, not the younger kid.

I didn't care for the remark but that's Letterman's show and as he pointed out, sometimes he says tasteless things.

Get over it, Sarah. He wasn't insulting womanhood. Furthermore, it was also a (deserved) remark to A-Rod and his catting around with anything with T&A.

Much ado about nothing. You need not appear on his show, dear, because you're already helping his ratings.

Stupid, vapid woman.

Posted by: itsagreatday1 | June 12, 2009 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is a parent, and understandably protective of her children. However, this second round smacks of cynical opportunism at best, or worse, a lack of judgment.

Gov. Palin does not possess the temperament for a job that includes a plastic card with nuclear launch codes.

Posted by: bbb444 | June 12, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Go home Sarah and take care of your family. We don't need you here.

Posted by: Hoffmann1 | June 12, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"Palin said there was a double standard where the media treats President Barack Obama's family as generally off-limits, while her family was the butt of jokes during last fall's presidential campaign and beyond."
This woman is still living in a dream and refuse to wake up. The election is long gone.

Posted by: lhao333 | June 12, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Governor Palin set herself up as a target for late night jokes in general, and specifically regarding her daughter and her daughter’s unplanned pregnancy.

I can’t be certain about what Mr. Letterman’s jokes were intended to imply, but when I heard the jokes about Governor Palin’s daughter, I imagined her older daughter, Bristol, not her younger daughter. The reason I thought of Bristol is because of all the publicity she received during the presidential campaign, and the Governor’s public and personal position on abstinence instead of sex education, and allowing or insisting that her unwed teenage daughter give birth in an unplanned pregnancy. Then, beyond those things making Governor Palin and her family targets for sex jokes, Bristol Palin’s apparent forced courtship with the baby’s father to maintain the appearance of being consistent in their behavior and beliefs for the presidential campaign, their later breakup, Bristol’s public pronouncements about the failure of abstinence and her opposition to it, and her public appearances discussing her pregnancy, all add to the fodder the Palin’s have brought upon themselves regarding children having sex and getting pregnant and having babies.

Governor Palin should be ashamed by her own behavior and positions both public and private regarding sex and her use of her family as political campaign props, and she deserves everything Mr. Letterman dishes out to her and more.

I personally found all of the jokes about Governor Palin very funny, and I can’t always say that about the jokes of Mr. Letterman!

Dave, keep up the good work! You are the best ever!

Posted by: dalailamawannabe | June 12, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

When are people going to start discussing the real issue: freedom of speech? The First Amendment is supposed to guarantee every American's right to say (almost) anything about anything or anyone - even though others may find the speech offensive, think it's in poor taste, etc. It sickens me every time I hear about yet another American citizen being forced to apologize for exercising his or her constitutionally-protected right to free speech.

Posted by: mireson | June 12, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Would Dave or any other comedian make a joke as perverse as that about the Obama Girls – of course not – where is the outrage? This is not just about Sarah Palin’s Daughter, this about all our Daughters. I can take a joke as well as the next person, but please this is past being funny – I am outraged about how his audience and the media just ignored this. I was upset at Don Imus, when he made those terrible remarks about those young college girls – he lost his job, as he should of – is their a double standard in our society – I hope not. What would people be saying if someone made a joke about sodomizing David Letterman’s son – would the shoe be on a different foot??? Any Crime against a Child is just Sick even in a joking manner…

Posted by: ckent1 | June 12, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

It's enough to erode the self-esteem of young women just having to listen to Palin attempt to speak for womanhood.

Posted by: trotterjt | June 12, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

It is pretty shocking to see the lack of protection there is for children and women.
Lack of respect as a whol

Insert Obama's daughter's names.
Insert Letterman's son's name.
Insert You sister, niece, nephews, name.

Is it funny?
No.

Letterman just ended his late night career.

He can have on teen idols, to attract the age group as a ploy...but he appears as corrupt as the pompous azzes on the Hill now, buying your vote.

The boycott of Letterman by women everywhere, is his own fault. They might as well take him off the air now, and toss him into the dust bin of American X Icons with GM.

Women walked out of the Democrat party in droves for by-passing a better resume, don't forget that. Those who walked out, were absolutely correct about what would have been better for this Country.

Posted by: dottydo | June 12, 2009 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Exploitation? Double standard? Please. Palin exploited Bristol, Levi, and the unborn child at the republican convention and now she has allowed Bristol to appear on the cover of People with the baby and in her graduation gown. Letterman is a comedian and unfortunately Palin has become one too and in an ironic twist of fate Palin is much funnier. White trash? Levi? Not so sure. Palin will do anything to keep her name in the public arena, steals clothes, and exploits her children for fame and fortune. Sounds pretty trashy to me.

Posted by: BeltwayGreg1 | June 12, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse


Her oldest daughter is s.l.u.t, and her mom is public politician, so jokes are on her, especialy when we all know that she is S.L.U.T, heeeloooo.

Nobody is apologizing to Paris Hilton, even John McCain used her in his propaganda against Obama, but she is not even asking for it, because she knows that jokes are on her. It's sad that Palin's daughter who is mother as well, isn't speaking aganist Letterman. Probably she is not dumb as her own mother.

THAT'S RIGHT, SHE IS S.L.U.T
Comprehend that!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Let me try this again...

Letterman's "wife" was unwed when she got knocked up. Does this mean she is a promiscuous hoar? Are all flight attendents S.L.U.T.S? Or only the ones who wear makeup?

When the principles of fairness, tolerance and acceptance are used to conveniently express your viewpoint, they become useless and illegitimate. The same people who pride themselves on being "open-minded" seem to be shameless hypocrites when it suits their agenda.

Posted by: demnomore | June 12, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is becoming the Tonya Harding of the Republican Party. What a great show. Just another Republican weapon of mass distraction. Ignore their failed leadership, failed ideology and failed policies. Ignore the carnival clowns at the Faux Fairground. Distract everyone from the issues and accuse a comedian who makes a tasteless joke of being a pervert rapist!!! If you believe that you might believe that the founding fathers wanted a Christian America!

Posted by: thebobbob | June 12, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"Convenient excuse?"

Off color as it may be, the joke is only funny when referring to Palin's 18 year old, single mother, daughter. If referencing the 14 year old, it just doesn't make any sense.

Posted by: JHeels | June 12, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

After making a joke about Sarah Palin's 14 year old daughter, David Letterman gave a responsive statement that was anything but an apology.

He said, "I mean, look at me, I would never, never make jokes about raping." If Mr. Letterman would never make a joke about raping, then he is saying that the 14 year old had consentual sex with Mr. Jeter. That's not an apology, that's an even worse "joke".

Mrs. Palin responded to the "joke" by issuing a statement saying, "'Laughter incited by sexually-perverted comments made by a 62-year-old male celebrity aimed at a 14-year-old girl ...." In response to that, Mr. Letterman glibly responded with, "First of all, I'm not a celebrity." How true Mr. Letterman's admission really is. In reality, Mr. Letterman is a pervert that should be a registered sex offender.

I will never watch anything to do with Mr. Letterman ever again, and I dare say I won't watch CBS unless that network distances itself from Mr. Letterman's remarks.

Posted by: BPinOC | June 12, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's mistake is thinking anyone at all cares what she says or does. She exposed her lack of intelligence during the campaign. I, for one, shivered every night during the campaign, wondering what would happen would McCain-Palin be elected, McCain become incapacitated, and Palin be in charge of this country. (I can see Russia from my front porch, that means I know about foreign affairs????? Was she serious when she said that (I know I paraphrased it, probably incorrectly.))

And no way in heck does she speak for me or any other woman I know!

She not only exploited Bristol, Levi, and Bristol's unborn child at the republican convention, then allowed Bristol to appear on the cover of People with the baby and in her graduation gown, she also exploited her infant son (whom Bristol frequently held during the convention). Shame on you, Sarah Palin. Stay in Alaska, where they understand (or at least tolerate) your hypocritical self!

Posted by: pennstatemom2000 | June 12, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Palin is absolutely right. There is definitely a double standard. Look what happened to Imus.
And can you just imagine if someone told the same joke and used Obama's oldest daughter instead of Willow Palin? There would be Hell to pay!

Posted by: ajoyner1 | June 12, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Sarah the pain needs to SHUT her ignorant redneck mouth and disappear from public view forever.

Not only is she stupid, her family is stupid, only the stupid believe in imaginary beings, get KNOCKED up when they are teenagers and when they pop out a damaged kid, it's cute to pretend it's wonderful. No wonder she was the reBUBBAlican poster girl.

Palin dumber than the moose she likes to kill.

Posted by: Chad1 | June 12, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

I will make fun of Obama's daughters if they end up being stupid like Bush's daughters or Bristol Palin. I am sure they wont be spared by Leterman either. Happy now???

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse


This politican seems to be everywhere but in Alaska... and yet you don't hear any complaints coming from the north.

Posted by: whocares666 | June 12, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow, the media really has you poor unthinking slobs brainwashed doesn't it?

Sarah Palin has done nothing to harm any one of you, (who by the way practice far more disgusting traits then she ever will, you hypocrites),yet you follow the media's lead like brainless lemmings, marching in line like good little irrational haters.

I'm ashamed of you to but it mildly. You aren't Americans by any stretch of the word.
Debate has always been the American way of solving disputes between politicians, and I believe those who support Obama would agree.
Then why do you hold honest politicians to a MUCH higher and unrealistic standard?

Once again it's because you are supreme hypocrites.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | June 12, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

BOBSTERII:
To call Bush's twin daughters stupid (both college grads with honors), or Palin's kids stupid without knowing them tells me the only one that's "stupid" is the source of such a dumb comment.

Posted by: ajoyner1 | June 12, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight:

David Letterman makes a joke about Palin's daughter = OUTRAGE!

John McCain makes a joke about Bill Clinton's daughter = basically OK
(source: http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html)

Yeah, I'd call that a double standard.

Posted by: blackbetta | June 12, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

So Thozmaniac, are you saying people expressing opinions that disagree with opinions that aren't yours "aren't Americans by any stretch of the word?"

Wow, here I thought Americans had the right to voice their opinions about public figures, even if it means being disparaging. Maybe you're the one who doesn't know what American means.

Posted by: blackbetta | June 12, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

BobStern is a porker that oinks every time he speaks. His stupidity at not reconzing that THERE IS A DOUBLE STANDARD just shows what a pig he really is.

To hell with Palin. The point here is... don't make fun of the liberal families, only crisize the conservitive families. And it doesn't matter how rude or vulgar you are.

Bob, why don't you climb back into your slime whole where the farm animals leave their waste. Because, thats all you are. A vile, disgusting, slime ball who deserves to be placed where you belong. In a suewage plant where all the rest of the crap goes.

Posted by: LiberalBasher | June 12, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Forget Palin. Letterman should apologize to all the oversexed professional athletes. It makes it harder for a Kobe or A-Rod to score (both on and off the playing ground) when their personal life is exposed like that.

Posted by: roxydog09 | June 12, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

"Palin said there was a double standard where the media treats President Barack Obama's family as generally off-limits, while her family was the butt of jokes during last fall's presidential campaign and beyond."

Which one of the Obama girls is knocked up? Oh, that's right - neither. Which of them acts like a little brat, like the Bush twins (sticking their tongues out at people, etc.). Right, neither. Please show me an example of bad behavior on the part of the Obama family that could even be written about. Can't think of one? Me neither.

Gee, Sarah - maybe if you hadn't outed your pregnant teen daughter on national TV in shameless service of your own ambitions, people might not be making fun of you.

Posted by: slavicdiva | June 12, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Enough about Sarah Palin. Why are you wasting your time and ink on her?

Posted by: mpeterman42 | June 12, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is already a national joke. Every subsequent utterance reinforces that true and unyielding fact.

I mean, whatever happened to "Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"?

Posted by: bs2004 | June 12, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I seem to recall a presidential campaign in the year 2008 where the eventual Democratic nominee took great pains to keep his family AWAY from the media spotlight. In this same campaign, a certain, almost completely unknown Republican vice-presidential nominee paraded her family in front of the cameras at EVERY opportunity, including ON STAGE at campaign events.

Please spare us the exaggerated outrage, Mrs. Palin. We're smarter than that.

Posted by: goldengateview | June 12, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow - she's going to run this into the ground, isn't she? Letterman's jokes were definitely in bad taste. However, he never said anything about rape - he said "knocked-up" - and when he said that, I immediately knew who he was talking about. This whole thing is totally manufactured. He was wrong, she called him out on it, he apologized. Done. But she's not going to let it drop.

But double standard? Where was the Republican outrage when Rush Limbaugh was calling Chelsea Clinton a dog and making fun of how ugly she was? Do you remember how Republicans talked about Amy Carter? So don't get all defensive.

Besides - why would Republicans think Letterman should apologize to all women out there? They've been telling us this whole week that hate speech and vitriol doesn't cause violence, so why would Letterman's joke cause any?

Posted by: coloboyz | June 12, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Instead of criticizing letterman, Palin should look into herself and ask why her girls are growing up to be loose women. Letterman is just calling a spade a spade.

Posted by: August30 | June 12, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is, unfortunately, the Governor of my state, I didn't vote for her, never would. It's a sad commentary, on all news agencies, when the only news the rest of America hears about Alaska is of Sarah Palin...our biggest embarrassment. She has done nothing for our state, regardless of what she said during the charade...oh, I mean campaign, because they were all lies anyway. You people do know that she said she "stopped the Bridge to Nowhere"? Do you also know she KEPT THE MONEY meant to build that bridge? The residents of Alaska, especially Southeast Alaska, would like to know where that money went. That would be a much better story for your newspaper, since it is real news. As far as her children, she put them out there day after day and continues to do so...what does she expect. She wants the spot light but, she's not willing to pay the price for being stupid, and blaming everyone else for her ineptness. By reading the comments I'm thinking a lot of you believed the whine that Sarah was blindsided by Katie Couric...lol...I could have answered the questions Katie was asking! Especially the one about any Supreme Court decisions Sarah may disagree with. Guess the fact that the Supreme Court had just overturned a decision on what Exxon was required to pay, for the oil spill in Prince William Sound, which devastated the fishing industry, just slipped her mind. Sarah Palin...what a JOKE

Posted by: Tula1 | June 12, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

The idea of a double standard also includes the fact that Mr. Letterman remained as "unwed father" for several years after the birth of his son. Reguardless of age, Mr. Letterman lives in a glass house and shouldn't be casting stones.

Posted by: LKWalker | June 12, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Bristol did her NYC tour last month touting abstinence? Walking down a red carpet with Hayden Panettiere?

I like that the event was promoted by the Candie's Foundation - in case you are unaware Candies markets clothing to "tweens" which make them look - shall we say - more "grown up"?

Then in the Candie's "Foundation" drive "against teen pregnancy" they market t-shirts to young girls - "I'm so sexy I can make you wait!" I guess Bristol was just putting herself out there for the good of those "tweens"

...and anyone wonders why the Pallin's are the butt of jokes?

Posted by: toritto | June 12, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Britney, Britney, Britney.

(aka S.Palin.)

He's making a joke. go with it.

or be confrontational. One of the posters already said it, and you can't deny it, your lovely daughter was made pregnant - aka "knocked-up".

How is this anything more than stretching the truth for a little humour's sake?

We all know that he was talking about your daughter, and now you throw gasoline on the fire like he's a SEXIST?

He's a comedian, and one with a heck of a lot more (political) clout than you, Britney.


sorry 'bout that.

Posted by: pgibson1 | June 12, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

FIRST CONSIDER FREEDOM OF SPEECH;
THIS IS AMERICA NOT 'AMERIKA' SO FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS HERE.SO, LETTERMAN CAN DEFECATE THROUGHT HIS MOUTH AS MUCH AS HE COULD POSSIBLY LIKE TO DO,...RIGHT, JUST LIKE 'PEREZ HILTON" (ACTUALLY IS NOT HIS REAL NAME),...ANYWAY THEY ARE IN THE SAME CATEGORY OF SORRY PATHETIC LOW-LIFE PSEUDO-EDUCATED ULTRA-OBAMANIZED LIBERAL MORONIC-LIKE THEM PEOPLE.

AND SINCE THIS IS AMERICA HERE IS MY OPINION; LETTERMAN - AND ALSO "HILTON"- CAN BOTH WRITE DOWN THEIR "JOKES AND COMMNENTS",...ROLL THE PAPER AND PLACE THE ROLL IN ANY PLACE OF THEIR CHOICE , INCLUDING ONE WHERE THE NEED OF A PROCTOLOGIST WILL BE NESCESSARY FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE ROLL,....AND BY NOW I KNOW THAT YOUR IMAGIANTION IS FLYING HIGH.

Posted by: morcab | June 12, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

She practically called Obama a terrorist during the campaign. She called those living on the coasts unpatriotic and un-American. She did nothing to stop the violent rhetoric of her supporters at her rally. Now she's getting her panties in a bunch over a tasteless joke said by a late night comic? Give me a break. She should have released a statement saying she thought the joke was in bad taste and move on. She will not win if she tries to engage the media in a mud fight. She tried and got shredded this past fall when she tried vilifying the "MSM." SNL did a real number on her. She's moving down that same path again.

Posted by: jabreal00 | June 12, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

She thinks Dave Letterman is the reason girls/women in the U.S. have self-esteem issues? WTF?

Was this line of jokes in poor taste? Definitely. But if you're going to use your kids as a prop (like Jon & Kate), you expose them to this kind of observation.

Posted by: distance88 | June 12, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Palin's insatiable appetite to stay in the public eye and media at all costs is truly non presidential-like. No, wait, it's in extreme poor taste. This buffoon hasn't a lick of common sense only an ego to match the size of Alaska. If she had any class whatsoever she would keep her trap shut! She does not get that Letterman is a comedian, a satirist. Continuing her "holier than thou' dialogue only displays how completely stupid she is. OMG!!! SARAH GO AWAY!!! You're an embarrassment to all successful and bright hardworking women everywhere!

Posted by: Willard11 | June 12, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I think it is so funny to read many of your comments criticising Palin's intellect. Might I remind you of our current V.P... The intellectual giant Joe Biden! The only reason Obama doesn't make as many gaffes is because it is all scripted on his always-present telepromptors. How Palin's daughter can be characterized as "loose" is beyond me. She was in a monagamous relationship and got carried away with her hormones or whatever. She took responsibility for her actions while Levi runs rampant on his 15 minutes of fame tour! Some of you free-minded liberal thinkers make it sound like she did the entire football team. Your hypocracy is outshadowed only by your ignorance!

Posted by: demnomore | June 12, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it odd that this whole 'dust up' occured just days after Palin was not allowed to speak at the RNC fundraising dinner. Anyone with half a brain knew that Letterman was referring to Bristol and not the other ones. Before this feud how many people could name any of Palin's children names. Shoot I could barely remember Bristol's name except for the fact that her mother has used her shamelessly for her own promotion and not for the welfare of her daughter. Now she's using Willow to score cheap political points with her base. If she didn't want her children exposed to criticism than stop shoving them out into the spotlight.

Shouldn't we also be asking ourselves as a nation why is everything a feud with this woman? There was the feud with her Brother-In-Law, the State Trooper; there was the feud with Bristol's Baby Daddy, Levi; there was the feud with the McCain campaign, et al. And everytime it's poor little Sarah Palin that has been done wrong and how she wails at the injustice of the world. I know people just like that, constantly embroiled in some sort of feud or dust-up about some preceived slight, involved in petty revenges, refuses to take any apologies because they enjoy the feudin' too much, always constantly the victim - and you do too. They populate the trailer parks and reality shows. If Palin had one bit of class and decency she would accept Letterman's apology and be done with it but she's having too much fun playing the victim.

Posted by: dre7861 | June 12, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Who are all these people who claim to never laugh at dirty jokes?
Duh! They are called LYING HYPOCRITES in my neighborhood!
And most times that equates to CONSERVATIVE-REPUBLICAN also!

Soon tapes will come out showing Sara Palin or her husband Todd laughing at dirty jokes and then she will scribble up like the wicked witch of the west having a bucket of water thrown on her.

Double Standard NoT!
So far as I know Obamas liberal daugthers have not been knocked up yet... so you can't make the same jokes about them. I believe he is a better family manager as well. and I am sure he would politely dismiss an abusive joke rather than escalate it into a flamboyant political slander circus such as we have witnessed from Palin.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is now playing the role of the martyr and poor maligned mother.  But once again, it's all being done for political gain.  She used her older daughter to try to score points with the abstinence-only crowd, and now she's using her middle daughter to milk every political point possible by inferring that Letterman is a child molester.

Disingenuous, self-serving rhetoric at its best.

Posted by: labman57 | June 12, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are AFRAID of Limbaugh,Hannity,Michael Steele,AnnCoulter,Laura Ingraham,Glenn Beck, 'WE',THE PEOPLE' of this great country,and MONUMENTALLY TERRORIZED BY GOV SARAH PALIN, who everyone knows she could delivers much better presidential leadership than Obama.Palin's 'Alaska Formula', adjusted to nation-wide proportion can implement efficient answers to the economic arena.After all EVERYONE KNOWS that she has MUCH MORE, BY FAR, much more DIRECTORAL - EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE, than Obama and Biden together. The public knows this, and so,the electorate are having second thougths about this current administration.

LETTERMAN, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF LIBERALS ULTRA-OBAMANIZED, SORRY PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A DECENT MAN, CANNOT PRODUCE NOTHING FUNDAMENTAL AND LEGITIMATE TO GO AGAINST SARAH PALIN. ALL OBEYS TO THE FACT THAT GOV PALIN REPRESENTS AND IS A THREAT TO THE CURRENT OBAMA GANG CORRUPTED ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORISTS FRIENDLY ORIENTED ADMINISTRATION LOADED WITH ENEMIES OF THE STATE WITH AGENDA OF DESTRUCTION FOR OUR COUNTRY.

ARE YOU AFRAID - ANYONE - TO POST MY COMMENT?

Posted by: morcab | June 12, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I think it is sad that a woman who exploited her children throughout the election campaign is now using them to again gain the three-ring circus spotlight for herself. We all should remember her touting the boy who committed statutory rape with an under-aged girl as Bristol's fiance, while keeping the youngest girl out of grade school on her quest to the White House and showcasing her special needs baby on stage or in the audience at every possible turn.

This is not a woman who has sought to keep her children protected from the blaring media. Instead, she's taken every opportunity to score political points with them. And now this madness.

Is there a mother out here who doesn't find the Palin form of motherhood a bit jarring? Isn't there a way to succeed as a high profile woman in this country without trotting out the kids for political gain only to be subject to scrutiny in a manner that the media and the curious are wont to do?

Palin is now seeking to politicize again what she should be protecting and keeping under her wing at home. Shame on her.

For all the bad PR Letterman gets over this, what we WILL remember is this: Why did woman openly subject her children to this kind of public circus if she cared so much about their wellbeing?

Posted by: kimberlyrae | June 12, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Obama's daughters are not knocked up thank goodness. However, they were raised in a church that espoused ideas like "God ...America" and refers to "them Jews". When I saw Michele listening to the ceremonies last weekend, I could not help but remember her comment about not being proud of her country. Really? Then why attend the memorial? Obama a better family manager? That remains to be seen. They are not teens yet and yes, everything changes! I would take my teen making a mistake rather than growing up to be intolerant and ashamed of her country. Now, go scream amongst yourselves, you wonderful, magnaminous liberals!

Posted by: demnomore | June 12, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I just don't care what an insignificant person like Sarah Palin thinks. She let her daughter get pregnant underage and without a father to care for the baby. How does she think she's above the fray after running for public office. She could never make a vice-president if this is how she reacts to television satire.Go home Sarah. Watch your kids.

Posted by: SoupLine | June 12, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

This may have started with an inappropriate joke by Letterman but of course it is now all about Sarah Palin trying to grab the spotlight and further herself politically with the GOP base. No matter how bad the original joke was, the statement about "keeping Willow away from Letterman" is just crazy talk.

Posted by: MarcMyWords | June 12, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about politics involved or the age of the girl. No one would get away with a comment like that at work or school. It's called SEXUAL HARRASSMENT and it is illegal no matter who the individual is or what the age is. Letterman shouldn't be able to get away with it just because he is a celebrity or because he is harrassing a political figure's daughter.

Posted by: caballer | June 12, 2009 1:56 PM | Report abuse

If sarah palin would say something like " "could you please take it easy with the jokes toward my family dave"... people would have more respect and sympathy for her... but the crazy conservative political slander witch hunt (bill clinton style) tactic is making too big of a stink. Opps don't tell her what she is doing wrong dumby..she might fake her way into the whitehouse as a credible person.,, then we'd be in real trouble.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Who cares about politics involved or the age of the girl. No one would get away with a comment like that at work or school. It's called SEXUAL HARRASSMENT and it is illegal no matter who the individual is or what the age is. Letterman shouldn't be able to get away with it just because he is a celebrity or because he is harrassing a political figure's daughter.

Posted by: caballer | June 12, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Letterman is a pro-child molesting pervert.

If he made the same comment about your kids or Obamas kids how would you react?

Of course, if you were ok with it - That would say alot about you.

Posted by: UnitedStatesofAmerica | June 12, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

morcab - I hate to break this to you but just because you type in All Caps doesn't make you scary. In fact who was it that just recently was revealed to have typed in Caps - oh yeah the nut job who killed the Security Guard at the Holocaust Museum. So morcab are we going to see you in the news with a gun clutched in hatred in your bloodstained hands?

No one is scared of you, Rush, Hannity and all the other right-wing nut jobs you've listed. A recent poll was conducted of Republicans which asked who speaks for the GOP and your gal Sarah only got 3 responses - she actually got a fourth as 'the chick from Alaska.' Even your lover boy Rush only got 10% of the vote. When I see post like yours I'm reminded of the quote about the sound and the fury signifying nothing. It's just angry hate filled talk.

Posted by: dre7861 | June 12, 2009 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Liberals are just afraid of strong women like Sarah Palin

David Letterman is a perv....

Posted by: Phil6 | June 12, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Is Lettermen being held to the same standard as Don Imus was when he referred to a women's basketball team as "knappy headed hoes"

Posted by: eclecticlaw | June 12, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse


re: caballer sexual harassment

Comedy is art and It's called freedom of speech, you conservative hack!

McCarthy ERA Parallels?
### The US Senate dirty joke witch hunt transcripts ###
Senator Uptight (R-ARZ)
"Mr Letterman, Did you or have you every associated with communists or dirty joke tellers"?
Letterman (Comedian NYC):
" Yes...well i admit, I kind of like comedians and bad jokes"
Ha Ha Ha ...what a Hoot!
Palin final has secured her rightful place in crazy right wing history!

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

His ratings should go up now that his fellow pedophiles will be watching.....

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: ajoyner1
TO:BOBSTER
To call Bush's twin daughters stupid (both college grads with honors), or Palin's kids stupid without knowing them tells me the only one that's "stupid" is the source of such a dumb comment


BOSBTER'S RESPOND
First of all, I did not say Palin's kids, I said "Bristol Palin", so it is one kid only, not other kids that are just fine to me, so far, but we'll see. But that one kid, whole America knows how dumb she is, exactly as she looks. According to you, she is dumb, she is not "college grad with honors", nor she will ever. I guess, stupid forever.

Second thing; Nobody judges Bush's daughters by their degrees, we judge them by their actions (Just ask Ashton Kutcher), just like I judged Bristol Palin and her mother. On the other hand, they are smart enough to make a fool out of you thinking something dofferent than the rest of the world. So you might be right, they are not stupid; but, that leaves you..................................................as stupid, not them!!!!

Hey!!!! You know who else is not college grad, as matter of fact, NO ANY COLLEGE, NOT ONE SINGLE DAY? Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove. You think they are stupid or you are sticking to your Republican values like Palin's daughter.


Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

What is the big deal?
After all, Bill Maher laughed quite loudly and clearly about little girls that are raped by their own fathers and got applause for it:

http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/03/bill-mahers-sad-anniversary.html

Posted by: MarianoG | June 12, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Democrats afraid of strong women? Ummm, have you looked at the Democratic Party in the say, forty years?

I kind of got the impression that it's the Republicans that she makes nervous. She's been raising their collective blood pressure ever since McCain picked her as a running mate. Not a good way mind you. I also got the impression that he defended her partly out of loyalty and being a gentleman.

McCain was savy enough to spin/handle Letterman if needed. I'm not sure that Palin has that intuition or experienced people around her if she wants to remain a real option for 2012 or a player at the national level.

Posted by: k4man123 | June 12, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad to see the lack of maturity and rationality among the posters on this thread of the Washington Post. Gov. Palin may have been fair game for Letterman's jokes but when he lumped her 14 year-old daughter in his attack on Palin, he was wrong. And his so-called apology was simply another shot at Palin. I, for one, hope his time as a TV personality is a short one.

Posted by: Thependulumswings | June 12, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

SEXUAL HARRASSMENT is not free speech.

Posted by: caballer | June 12, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Media double standard? Now that is a joke. She needs to talk to Sean Hannitty and whole FOX News network, before she opens her legs again.......Urgh, I mean mouth again. Sorry about that!!!!

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

If you have the right to exercise your right of free speech of sexual harrassment then you also have to accept your right to remain silent, have an attorney appointed for you, etc...

Posted by: caballer | June 12, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse


SEXUAL HARRASSMENT is not free speech.

Posted by: caballer | June 12, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse
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Dirty jokes in a comedy art show is freedom of speech.

Go to IRAN if you don't like it here!

YOU Macarthy era HACK!

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Jokes are funny when they have meaning. The joke makes no sense being about Willow Palin. David Letterman is as aware of Bristol Palin's out of wedlock birth and faint conversion to nun as is the next person. Not to apologize for the president's daughters having better values or being better raised, but a similar joke about Sacha simply would not be funny. Letterman is a comedian and the Palin's are living jokes providing him a lifetime of material. You can be certain if the Obama's ever act like hypocrites Letterman and others will all over it.

Posted by: mdenny1 | June 12, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Jokes are funny when they have meaning. The joke makes no sense being about Willow Palin. David Letterman is as aware of Bristol Palin's out of wedlock birth and faint conversion to nun as is the next person. Not to apologize for the president's daughters having better values or being better raised, but a similar joke about Sacha simply would not be funny. Letterman is a comedian and the Palin's are living jokes providing him a lifetime of material. You can be certain if the Obama's ever act like hypocrites Letterman and others will all over it.

Posted by: mdenny1 | June 12, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

As a stockholder of GE I am disappointed in Matt Lauer's defence of David Letterman. First, night club humour should not be permitted over the air waves by FCC licensees, particularly when it is defamatory and “published” in Alaska over the airwaves. Willow Palin is likely to bear the brunt of unnecessary humiliation from crude reminders of that joke visited upon her by adolescent males suffering from the raging hormones of puberty. Second, Matt Lauer and NBC should point to NBC’s actions against Don Imus as a proper way for a television network to police itself. Finally, Governor Palin has a valid point that so called “locker room” humour has pervaded American culture and is contributing to social pressure on pubescent girls to engage in “sexting,” oral sex and other practices that American popular culture promotes in its music, films, magazines and broadcast media. Also, remember that a MSNBC reporter named David Schuster was suspended for two weeks for saying Chelsea Clinton was being “pimped.” Mr. Lauer’s behaviour appears to foster, promote and encourage vulgarity and defamation of children.

David Letterman should pay the price of some period of suspension for his tasteless, sexist exploitation of young girls.

Posted by: KEVIN25 | June 12, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Ok, just for fun lets tally the responses here. Three catagories, Pro- Palin, Con-Palin, and Neutral. Response types;Civil, Uncivil, Rude, and Irrelevant. I count the folowing:
Pro-Palin=11 comments civil, 5 comments uncivil, 1 comment rude
Con-Pailn= 12 comments civil, 12 comments uncivil, 11 comments rude 3 irrelivant
Netural= 1 civil, 1 uncivil
Obviously the cons out number the Pros but , why are they so overwhelmingly uncivil or just down right rude.? Is it possible that they are afraid of Sarah?

Posted by: KIRKSWHIT | June 12, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Let us not forget Palin's foul-mouth
during her failed campaign with McCain -
her vicious attacks on Obama, et al should
never be put aside!

The Palins are extremely low-class, and
mother Palin is in no position to attack
Letterman - simply reflect on the behavior
of her daughter - pregnant and now a
parent.

Do not let these people continue to distort the truth -- the
attacks on our President are shameful.

The attacks would have been "traitor",
"unAmerican", under George Bush/Cheney.

We need to respond to these attacks, and
support Letterman as the good comedian
he is!

Posted by: Sirius2 | June 12, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe only rednecks like the Palins and myself (Mississippi resident -- take that you redneck haters) still possess the moral compass necessary to understand Mr. Letterman acted wrongly.

Mr. Letterman has not proved himself to be a man in the aftermath; he needs to admit he acted wrongly and apologize.

It really surprises me -- the level of hate-filled speech directed at the Palins that some of you liberal/progressives have offered up here. Very classy indeed.

Those of you liberal/progressives who share my surprise (I know there are at least a few of youout there) -- consider carefully whom you wish to identify with politically the next time you feel the compulsion to fall in liberal lock step at the voting booth.

There really are a lot of kooky comments here.

Posted by: johnhogue_emi | June 12, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Yes i am afraid of Sarah MaCarthism Palin, ans yes rudeness is art! just ask the French....

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

The joke by letterman was not funny and any good parent would be outraged, and they should. Palin as a parent is right to be outraged, but she cannot help being a skilled politician make use to somehow say that media is corrupting her culture values. and as a skilled politician she has selective amnesia when she say media is bias and "Obama said MY family is off limits and they left him alone". Actually its was President Obama who said families are off limits when Bristol Palins pregnancy was being used by media. If Palin is appalled by how the audience laughed at the joke and its spoke to her about the culture, well so did her inciting speeches and when there were "Kill HIM", "Hang Him" chants at here rallies, she did not hear any boos nor did she make it a point to say don't do that. But she has every right to take offense at a bad joke at her daughters expense, because it was a bad joke.

Posted by: mscotz | June 12, 2009 2:29 PM | Report abuse

That Sarah is such a doofus! Doesn't she know she is doing EXACTLY what Dave wants her to do? She is providing fodder for even MORE jokes about her ridiculous family. It's a never-ending cycle.

She is SO predictable... it's quite amusing to watch her freak out and start feudin' with the latest entity who has "done her wrong". The more she keeps this up, the dumber she looks. If she freaks out this easily over an off-color JOKE.... can you imagine what would happen if she was ever elected president?

I wonder if she stomps her feet and throws tantrums when nobody is looking...?

Posted by: mavisdarling | June 12, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

It is shocking to me that David Letterman doesn't have the decency to apologize for his comments. Whether it is the 18 or 14 year old daughter doesn't matter.
The point being the children of politicians should be off limits!!! I wonder what would have happened if Letterman had used Sasha Obama as the butt of his distasteful jokes?

Posted by: ngg426 | June 12, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

How would this pathetic 62 year old pervert feel if someone raped his 4-5 year old boy at yankee stadium. I think that would be a joke to him also.

Posted by: gkps | June 12, 2009 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Whole republican media; Hannitty, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, Levin, O'Reilly and forgive me if I forgot to mention some of the Gestapo members, are saying a lot of crazy things about Obama. Because of their opinions and anger about Obama (or more likely bceause of their loss for the next 32 years, people could start some carp in this country. Total hatred towards our president and very harsh accusations, so harsh, that I am not surprised at all there was a morron who wanted to kill Obama. Same thing I hear about Letterman. Whole bashing and agressive republican responds tells us that they simply they don't get a point. Yet, I never heard Palin how these conservative media speakers are double standard only, espeacially FOX News.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

The thing is, Sarah isn't REALLY a politician. She's a performer. And a tacky one at that.

And another thing: The Obama family actually resembles the mythical Repbublican "Family Values Family" much more so than the tacky, etiquette-challenged Palins.

Posted by: mavisdarling | June 12, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

The reason the joke flys politically is because it mocks sarah pallin's high brow family values conservative ideals... the reason dave son being raped does not fly is because it has no transcendental political joke relevancy or smartness. But then again conservative humor is off due to low poll numbers lately.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

OK, so Letterman is saying the joke was intended to be about the 18 year-old daughter BUT she wasn't at the game. However the 14 year-old daughter WAS at the game. Easy to see how one comes to the conclusion that the joke was about the younger daughter.

Posted by: davejs | June 12, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Bristol did her NYC tour last month touting abstinence? Walking down a red carpet with Hayden Panettiere?

I like that the event was promoted by the Candie's Foundation - in case you are unaware Candies markets clothing to "tweens" which make them look - shall we say - more "grown up"?

Then in the Candie's "Foundation" drive "against teen pregnancy" they market t-shirts to young girls - "I'm so sexy I can make you wait!" I guess Bristol was just putting herself out there for the good of those "tweens"

Remember when Bristol did her NYC tour last month touting abstinence? Walking down a red carpet with Hayden Panettiere?

I like that the event was promoted by the Candie's Foundation - in case you are unaware Candies markets clothing to "tweens" which make them look - shall we say - more "grown up"?

Then in the Candie's "Foundation" drive "against teen pregnancy" they market t-shirts to young girls - "I'm so sexy I can make you wait!" I guess Bristol was just putting herself out there for the good of those "tweens"

Remember when Bristol did her NYC tour last month touting abstinence? Walking down a red carpet with Hayden Panettiere?

I like that the event was promoted by the Candie's Foundation - in case you are unaware Candies markets clothing to "tweens" which make them look - shall we say - more "grown up"?

Then in the Candie's "Foundation" drive "against teen pregnancy" they market t-shirts to young girls - "I'm so sexy I can make you wait!" I guess Bristol was just putting herself out there for the good of those "tweens"

http://www.candiesfoundation.org/tshirts.html

...and anyone wonders why the Pallin's are the butt of jokes?


Posted by: toritto | June 12, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

OMG Sarah, just go away. YOU and Todd have made your children public figures by towing them around like props. Wasn't Bristol just on the cover of People? Haven't you allowed her to become a public figure in her own right as a spokesperson for abstinence, no less. If you would like to be a professional politician with any hope for a future on the national stage, quit bringing your kids and your husband to work! None of my professional colleagues do!

Posted by: WI-Simone | June 12, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Let me finish my thought... There is no double standard....because dave does not act high brow about sexual abstinence etc. so promiscuous-sex jokes don't work against him or his family.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I believe that Letterman didn't intend any of the worst that that Palin's see in his joke.

But I do agree that it's NOT cool to make jokes like this about family members of public figures. Especially children. The children are NOT public figures.

It wasn't cool when SNL poked fun at Chelsea Clinton in the 90's.

It's still uncool now.

For that, Letterman could apologize in good faith to Mrs. Palin.

Posted by: hamer12string | June 12, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Where was Palin anger during the campaign,when the crazys would come out and call for Obama's death by one means or another. Where was her indignation, there was none, all she did was keep stiring the pot and stiring the crazys into a sickening
spectacle, of hate, and bigotry

Posted by: StevG | June 12, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if she would talk about politics from time to time instead of whining about how mean everyone is to her people might stop talking about how insipid she and her family are.

Posted by: ibwilliamsi | June 12, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I agree, if it had been said about Obama's daughter (s), I'd be furious. I myself have not watched Letterman in 15 years. I thought he was pro-Bush, Jewish repugnot... so not sure why he went after Palin. But definitely, he needs a swift kick to the nads and thrown off t.v. like that radio host with the cowboy hat and pointy boots.

Posted by: angriestdogintheworld | June 12, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I see we have mostly msnbc listener deusbags posting today. Love the comments from those who suggest that if the shoe was on Obama's foot, that- the same deusbags would be crying a much different post. Lib's, who needs them, I mean 50 or more years of failed policy and still counting. Lib's are such a waste of mind and body, not to meantion, they keep leaving their smelly carbon footprint everywhere their not welcomed. GMFB!
We love you Sarah, your truly a woman's woman, and every man with class, his............BABE!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: davigilza | June 12, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I will put my pal-in any legal Palin Woman.

Posted by: FizzmickPaChee | June 12, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin has the right to be protective of her family and Davids joke was in bad taste. David said he was sorry about it but Palin will not let it go and the reason is, the lime light.We all know he meant the oldest daughter but if Sarah let it go and lunes in the conservative party let it go, they would have nothing to talk about.I am suprised that the lunatics on the right have not tried to pin this on Obama,well there is still time. Sarah has no new ideas, remember the"Drill baby Drill" stunt? Where did it go, nowhere like her dreams of becoming VP.
I want Palin to face Obama and when she goes up against him, she will be calling Africa a country,Telling people she can see Russia from her backyard,Telling everyone Iraq had WMDs and was involved with 9-11.

Please Sarah get the nod for the republican party and run against Obama.But this will not happen, even the republicans know she can't win no matter who she picks as VP

Posted by: Realistic2 | June 12, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

i wouldn't trust my teenager around letterman or his audience that was clapping and scarfing up his perverted humor the night of his so called apology tour

Posted by: harbinger317 | June 12, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to David Letterman, Palin is again making news and the leading Republican candidate for 2012.

Posted by: kenpasadena | June 12, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Go to hell Letterman. I'm a centrist and you hypocritical misogynist pricks do nothing to help your cause. How many decades were you single... ?

Posted by: AsperGirl | June 12, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, who I hope will for ever stay as far away from the White House as possible. This has to do with a grown man who makes a sexual joke about a young girl out of contempt for her mother and, possibly, for women and girls in general.

This was just a disgusting and cruel thing to do - and sleazy. What has either of the Palin daughters ever done to this man? He should behave like a grown up, not like one of the girls' more unfortunate teenage classmates.

Posted by: asoders22 | June 12, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Let those without sin cast the first stone.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | June 12, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

You know what else is funny besides David Letterman; Palin's son is in military where Obama is Commander in Chief and yet she calls Obama socialist who is creating socialism. So her son, according to her, is serving socialist army, or red army.

Another funny thing; Bristol Palin wouldn't mind being knocked up by rich baseball player; better that, than some bum from Alaska.

What a republican sweethearts.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

She's just playing this to the remaining 20% of the GOP dead-enders. Allow to decode what she's really saying:
blah blah blah MSM blah blah blah Liberal Media Bias blah blah blah Barack HUSSEIN Obama blah blah blah Abstinence blah blah blah Faith-Based Values blah blah blah Palin/Limbaugh 2012 blah blah blah...

Posted by: Smoke_Jaguar4 | June 12, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

!!!!!!TO ALL LATE NIGHT TALK SHOWS!!!!!!!

PLEASE DON'T EVER MENTION HER NAME ANYMORE! YOU SEE WHAT YOU DID?

NOW WE HAVE A VERY STRONG OPPOSITION CANDIDATE TO OBAMA IN 2012. THANKS A LOT.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin was pregnant before she was married, forced abstinence only on her children, and Bristol got pregnant to a redneck boy.

Palin endangered the life of her daughter when her water broke, but insisted on flying hours to Alaska instead of going to the delivery room because as a party member of the US hating, secessionist Alaska First (AKIP) Party, she was required to birth her child on "Alaskan soil".

How can someone who supports ideas like Alaska secession from the United States be considered for high US federal office?

Palin is under educated, unenlightened, has been a terrible governor, and has violated the constitution and bill of rights repeatedly in Alaska, using her office for personal power and personal gain - and she has been admonished by Alaska's state legislature for it.

ONLY IDIOTS, IDEOLOGUES, HYPOCRITES, CRIMINALS, NEOCONS, AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES SUPPORT PALIN

Posted by: onestring | June 12, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Geez, she is more borring than Bobby Jindal.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

She should have kept her kids at home and IN SCHOOL, like the Obama's did. She is the one who paraded them around during the campaign.

She is trying to stay in the news and rile up her base. What she doesn't seem to realize is her base is tiny and all she is doing for the rest of us is reinforcing the idea that she is clueless.

Posted by: JunoAK | June 12, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Imagine, if her and John McCain won presidency.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

if ever there was a natural born republican, this airhead is IT! and to think at one time i actually thought mccain was a reasonable man. this ditz could not put together an analogy without directions, a flowchart, and a team of advisors... and even then she would sputter it out in that smarmy folksy idiom only a drunken backwoodsman would find believable.

Posted by: dave86 | June 12, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Then I guess it would be OK to say that as a joke "While Letterman was taking a tour of Washinton D. C. he asked Sen. Larry Craig to take his son Harry to the bathroom... while Barney Frank stood outside the door in his usual position as lookout". Yeah, funny. Arent you laughing too? Probably not. No one was laughing at Lettemans joke either. It's kids and it's not funny.

Posted by: pattys321 | June 12, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

We have turned off the entire TV station. letterman hasn't been funny in years. he is an old liberal sleaze, a kind of Chester the Molester of the Democratic Party - but NOT a comedian. The entire station must be punished for this attack against young women by this creepy old dude. I think enough Americans have the courage to make the television channel pay a price. This is the only way to get rid of letterman the pervert.

Posted by: lclifton | June 12, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

As a mother of two daughters and a Republican, I am so embarrassed by Sarah Palin's lame attempts to become politically relevant. In trying to steal the spotlight by sparring with ultra-likable Letterman, she comes off as a thin-skinned whiner, NOT a leader. I was so hoping she would use this post-election media attention to do something important, but I truly do not believe she has the intelligence to do so.

Posted by: goheels | June 12, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The Issue is not whether Gov. Palin had a daughter with a teen pregnancy between the girl and her boyfriend, the issue is whether a nationally and regularly watched comedian who is a father himself, can recognize the boundaries of acceptable humor. Free Speech does not extend to criminal slander and wreckless endangerment. Endangerment? When someone makes a joke about a 14 year old being the kind of person who would be having wanton sex with a baseball figure, it causes all who encounter her to look at her in 'that way'. Including those of a perverse nature. Isn't the world dangerous enough for teens and children without horrifying them, their families and general public with comments about a child's sexuality? An adult would take him to court. We already do not have a country safe for children. Why would any normal person think that is funny?

Posted by: elizabethbest | June 12, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I realize if I'm going to read an article on a liberal website, I should expect to see the sorts of comments I've seen here.

The right has it's own share of hate fed followers, but I have never seen so many hate filled deviant people as those on the left. That's what drives you people, and to me that's scary.

Another thing is your lack of understanding when it comes to conservatives and people of faith. You think that because we try to hold to certain values for ourselves and our families, that somehow we are excepted to be prefect and without flaw. You also think that somehow we are trying to get you to live a certain way. You're free to be the deviants that you are, we just don't want it thrown in ours, or our kids faces all the time.

You are sensitive to certain topics because you think that "we" are judging you. That comes from your guilty conscience. That's normal since God designed that into you. He made sure you would be without excuse. See, you probably think I am judging you, but that's not possible. Only God can judge. People can only be critical of one another.

(By the way, thank you for reminding me of why I vote the way that I do. I don't care if we lose every election. I'd rather be in the minority than jump on your deviant wagon.)

Posted by: thenewminority | June 12, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Did David Letterman go too far with Willow Palin joke?


http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=5505

.

Posted by: usadblake | June 12, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

What I am certain of is most of the comments here are by people who are those who simply try to tear down something they don't understand...I want to be a part of the America Sarah Palin reminds us of and what we can be again, not a part of a decadent, intolerant, and uncivilized people that make these kinds of 'vile, ungodlike and ignorant' comments! So help us God!

Posted by: goldenruler | June 12, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

As freaking nasty as Palin was during the presidential campaign I really don't see why anyone should take her crocodile tears the remotest bit seriously. And her husband is a far-right gun-collecting seccessionist freak who wouldn't even be allowed in the White House if the freakishness had extended to Palin winning executive office.

As for Bristol, she may be a daughter but at 18 she is also legally an adult, able to vote and go to war, and for an proudly unwed mother to parade around cashing in on Mom's notoriety to promote the abstinence-only education that failed so spectacularly in her case is to not only invite ridicule but pay for the postage too.

Give me a break with the outrage, These people are asking for it.

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 12, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

When you place yourself and your children in the public eye, you are going to get comments you don't like, but calling Letterman a pervert and his comment akin to statutory rape is way overboard Sarah! Go home, raise your children, and for goodness sakes, stay out of politics! It is obvious that you are using Letterman's comment in order to feed your need to be in the public eye. You are the one exploiting your children.

Posted by: 78vette | June 12, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Amazing. I am amazed at how many people are defending LetterBOY.

If it was my daughter, regardless of age, me and Mr. LetterBOY would be dancing and not the Tango.

It doesn't matter if she is over 18, under 18, or the worst kind of female one can imaging, Mr. LetterBOY had NO business involving her in his little ratings slander.

It is amazing how such insults are off-limits on the liberal left where him and his cronies are concerned but a girl who does not have the means to face her accusing slanderer?

If it were your daughter, regardless of who she fits into the family dynamics you are honestly going to say you would not be offended and want satisfaction?

You are lucky Mr. LetterBOY... you are lucky it wasn't my daughter you maligned. Nothing but a coward.

Posted by: ankharan | June 12, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Donald Trump take away her crown!...same story?

Posted by: miguele3 | June 12, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

God forbid a conservative woman stand up and defend herself or her chidlren. All I know is that if the joke was about the Obama's, Letterman would be in Gitmo. If it is about the Palin's, it is a yuckfest. I can't stand the hypocrisy. The biggest joke I know is that Obama got elected and jerks like Letterman got him there.

Posted by: FreeAmerican1 | June 12, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

I do understand her being upset as a parent.

But she is not just playing the parent role.... this is a political posture ...be sure of it.

If she would ever get in the white house we'd all live in a no comedy allowed police state.

I am getting images of her in nazi boots burning comic books!

LMOAO

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Double Standard Indeed:
Despite my long-standing appreciation of Mr. Letterman's humor, & my personal opinion that he should have been Mr. Carson's successor, I must agree that he should sincerely apologize to the Palins, if he hasn't already. However, we should remember that sometimes humor misses the social mark, (not to appreciate or give respect to the hypocrisy of Political Correctness.) That being said, by the same standard of logic, if Letterman should apologize to Gov. Palin, then Oberman & Maddow should then be forced to apologize to every citizen of these United States, & forced to sincerely apologize to every News Person & Journalist of integrity, in the whole World, for their childish, boorish, inappropriate, & profane comments that they made for days concerning the various Tea Parties that US citizens of conscience made in protest of obviously obligatory & impending taxes that will be imposed upon all taxpayers of this country to support the pendulum swinging policies of our newly elected government, or instead be fired. eh?!

Posted by: mcafrokee | June 12, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

mcafroke Read my posts and be freed from the uptight right wing stupor zone.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

David Letterman owes me no apology. Sarah Palin, on the other hand owes me a few.

Some day, it would be nice see a woman hold the office of presidency or vice presidency. Sarah Palin, having taken about 10 years to obtain a degree in communication, is completely unqualified to hold any public office. Nothing of any substance ever came out of her mouth. In fact, she often failed to answer very straighforward questions.

She has set the political advancement of women back at least a decade. Her not-so-whitty cutesy talk and the whole sickening soccer mom schtick completely failed to camouflage an obvious lack of basic intelligence. As an American woman, I was disgraced at having had my gender represented by such an airheaded idiot.

And while we're on the subject, she needs to apologize for claiming that Trig was her baby, when it was the first illegitimate pregancy of her daughter who apparently shouldn't have been denied birth control by her over-conservative hypocritical mother.

On second thought, forget the apologies. Just go back to Alaska where we don't have to hear any more babble flying from your mouth.

Posted by: dcollins1 | June 12, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh come on !!! The joke was about Alex Rodriguez, for goodness sake! Palin's faux outrage is a calculated move just to get attention. I am so sick of her pandering that I could vomit.

When will our national nightmare end ??
Oh God...make her go away!

Posted by: Speaktruth | June 12, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: usadblake
Did David Letterman go too far with Willow Palin joke?

ANSWER;
Nobody mentioned Willow Palin! The joke was about Bristol Palin.

Stop sperading lie and false information.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

re: thenewminority

Let me get you right ... to recap your post...Conservatives are not bad...liberals are not good...

Nope I don't see any reason feel judgement or scared of conservative law making at all....whew!

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Yep the Liberal media never make fun of the liberal politicians.

We all know the liberal media was very kind to Hillary and Bill.

Posted by: nevets23 | June 12, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

As long little Sarah keeps coming out once in a while, for sure we see the win of Democratic party every four years. The only question is, how long will she be cute to other dumb half of this country.

Posted by: BOBSTERII | June 12, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

In response to "dottydo" -- what planet do you live on? #1. Letterman did not end his career by a longshot. #2 Where on Earth did you hear that women everywhere are boycotting Letterman's show? #3. Again, where on Earth did you hear that women walked out of the Democratic party in droves? You are terribly misinformed, not to mention clueless! Palin set herself and her family up to jokes by her own hypocrisy on the abstinence issue.

Posted by: tlowe33 | June 12, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Please be easy on Dave - Old pedophiles need love too.....

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Everyday I look at the Obamas and think, "Oh what a breath of fresh air!".

Thank you America for finally waking up!
Stop the "dumbing down" of our country>

Posted by: dianne_orangecountyca | June 12, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

To Liberalbasher: Before you post comments that hundreds, maybe thousands, maybe you should learn to spell. Nevermind, this is exactly the kind of garbage I would expect from someone who calls him/ or herself liberalbasher. Probably someone who listens to the head of the Republican party, Rush Limbaugh. Enough said about that. For all of those calling Letterman a perv for making a tasteless joke, get a life!

Posted by: tlowe33 | June 12, 2009 4:40 PM | Report abuse

David Letterman owes me no apology. Sarah Palin, on the other hand owes me a few.

Some day, it would be nice see a woman hold the office of presidency or vice presidency. Sarah Palin, having taken about 10 years to obtain a degree in communication, is completely unqualified to hold any public office. Nothing of any substance ever came out of her mouth. In fact, she often failed to answer very straighforward questions.

She has set the political advancement of women back at least a decade. Her not-so-whitty cutesy talk and the whole sickening soccer mom schtick completely failed to camouflage an obvious lack of basic intelligence. As an American woman, I was disgraced at having had my gender represented by such an airheaded idiot.

And while we're on the subject, she needs to apologize for claiming that Trig was her baby, when it was the first illegitimate pregancy of her daughter who apparently shouldn't have been denied birth control by her over-conservative hypocritical mother.

On second thought, forget the apologies. Just go back to Alaska where we don't have to hear any more babble flying from your mouth.

Posted by: dcollins1 | June 12, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse
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Just wondering why you libs are taking this opportunity to attack a woman who recently had her 14 year old daughter attacked by a so-called comedienne, really a political hack in disguise. Could you even fathom Letterman saying anything remotely close about our Presidents family? Oh, you mean you absolutely despise someone with a different point of view than yours exercising their rights to free speech as guaranteed by the 1st Amendment? Is that what you mean? We have names of people with similar attitudes. Names like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro and Pol Pot. Together they executed over 100 million of their own people in order to establish and maintain their agenda. If these people are your heroes, then you've got problems. You ever thought of going back to church? Maybe the priest can pray for you and a miracle can occur. Oh, you don't believe in God? Well, what kind of god do you believe in? Karl Marx and Secular Progressivism? Oh, OK, sorry, I should have known. All is forgiven, I thought I would be up 'til midnight praying for your lost souls, but I won't have to now. All you will have to do is drink a little bit of that Kool-Aid and all will be well. You ever thought of sharing a little bit of it with the rest of us? I was told it can help someone hallucinate better than LSD. If that's the case we will all want some of it, in fact we will probably be beating down your doors to get it. If you are a good capitalist you could even make a lot of money selling it, and then, you could go out and help all those people that are in need; just look at what good you could do, so, please think about it, won't you?
Take care....

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

I am incensed over every one of you who take Letterman's plea. What are you? A bunch of moron's?? Since when did it become OK to make snide remarks about ANYONE'S child, regardless if they're a politician we like or don't like? In former times, before our country spiraled into the hellhole it just about is the children were off limits. And now? We give props to those who weild their tongues like a knife?

I, for one, have a daughter around that age and if it were me I'd be just as angry! Is there not enough fodder for Letterman to come up with other than sexual remarks about a politician's daughter? I think it's pretty low class if you ask me.

Posted by: whatintheworld3 | June 12, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

On the "fairness" issue:

1. Let's face it: You right wing nuts would never say that the amount of cr.p heaved upon any Democratic politician for their short comings is enough.

It is always missing something in your mind. Bill Clinton, William Jefferson, Rod Blagojevich, Eliot Spitzer, etc ... It almost seems like you never read the "liberal" press ...

Ah! That's the problem. If you have convinced yourselves that the press is inherently "liberal", and that's a good excuse for you to not read any of it, how are you coming to the conclusion that the "liberal" press does not criticize these bozos enough? Did you hear that that was true from Fox News?

2. I don't recall any of Obama's daughters getting knocked up. Perhaps Michelle/Barack are evil parents and are good at hiding it. Or perhaps there just isn't anything contraversial to talk about.

3. Bristol's pregnancy is only contraversial because Sarah is a staunch social conservative. If it weren't for that, she would not be a hypocrite, and Bristol would not be news.

Now, how about you Republicans picking someone who is a little better at sticking with YOUR RULES:

1. Someone who did not divorce.

2. Someone who actually parented well.

3. Someone who did not have anyone gay in their family.

4. Someone who actually reduced budgets and turned away money (instead of just saying so).

In short, someone who actually succeeded with YOUR RULES for life.

How you guys ended up with Sarah is beyond me. Obviously, none of your political operations people did any research.

How the heck do you promote YOUR RULES when none of your superstars follow them with any level of success?

With the Democrats, at least they have no pretense of being against abortion, against spending, against gays, etc ...

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

If the CBS network cares about basic standards of decency on public airwaves and if it cares at all about bolstering its shrinking audience, the network honchos will get Letterman a therapist pronto.

Posted by: mock1ngb1rd | June 12, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

To whatintheworld3 and those who are incensed that a politician's child is made fun of ...

If you think this just started with Letterman, you are a hermit or you don't read.

Go back to all previous elections.

EVERY family member is fair game, even the little kids. All political parties do it. They may not necessarily do it "officially", but their political operatives know how to "spread the word" so that it seems like it came out of nowhere.

Now, this seems rather unfair, right? That's what you are saying, right? I mean, poor little girl getting unreasonable comments made about her?

But let's face it, there are lots of other personal things that politicians and other high visibility figures claim to be off limits, but our contraversy-chasing media loves this stuff, and that's the way it is.

If there isn't a market for trash media, there would not be so many people looking for contraversies.

It has gotten to the point where has-been stars and their managers manufacture contraversy just to get air time.

You are complaining about the wrong things. There is an addiction to this, just like there is an addiction to cocaine.

You have to get rid of the demand, not the supplier.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

On the "fairness" issue:

1. Let's face it: You right wing nuts would never say that the amount of cr.p heaved upon any Democratic politician for their short comings is enough.

It is always missing something in your mind. Bill Clinton, William Jefferson, Rod Blagojevich, Eliot Spitzer, etc ... It almost seems like you never read the "liberal" press ...

Ah! That's the problem. If you have convinced yourselves that the press is inherently "liberal", and that's a good excuse for you to not read any of it, how are you coming to the conclusion that the "liberal" press does not criticize these bozos enough? Did you hear that that was true from Fox News?

2. I don't recall any of Obama's daughters getting knocked up. Perhaps Michelle/Barack are evil parents and are good at hiding it. Or perhaps there just isn't anything contraversial to talk about.

3. Bristol's pregnancy is only contraversial because Sarah is a staunch social conservative. If it weren't for that, she would not be a hypocrite, and Bristol would not be news.

Now, how about you Republicans picking someone who is a little better at sticking with YOUR RULES:

1. Someone who did not divorce.

2. Someone who actually parented well.

3. Someone who did not have anyone gay in their family.

4. Someone who actually reduced budgets and turned away money (instead of just saying so).

In short, someone who actually succeeded with YOUR RULES for life.

How you guys ended up with Sarah is beyond me. Obviously, none of your political operations people did any research.

How the heck do you promote YOUR RULES when none of your superstars follow them with any level of success?

With the Democrats, at least they have no pretense of being against abortion, against spending, against gays, etc ...

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse
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OK, I got your "talking points," which is a different issue; the issue is not about someone's politics, it is about Letterman's pedophile remarks about a conservative politician's daughter. Barrack Obama said during the campaign that his family is off limits, which I totally agree with. Why can't you on the Left grant the same rights to a conservative that were demanded for Barrack Obama? Why the double standard?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

What does that ignorant Sarah Baracuda expect when she foolishly paraded her promiscuously unwed pregnant daughter before the entire nation during the most recent presidential campaign? The foolish GOP membership accepted this display of Baracuda's dysfunctional family values as normal.

What you see is what you get, and it may come back and bite you!

Posted by: arturocantante | June 12, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

To those who think that Letterman's career just ended:

I don't think you are even remotely realistic. There are still millions of viewers who have no idea why the Palins and others have misunderstood the joke, and frankly, they don't care. They love Letterman's tasteless humor, and they will continue to watch it.

All Sarah is doing is to give Letterman more ratings than he actually deserves.

If she is truly "above" this sort of thing, then she would have just dismissed it.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Amazing to me that the self-defined "party of tolerance" has no problem with a disgusting , bitter old pedophile making filthy jokes about a 14-year-old teenage girl - honestly, what's wrong with you people?

Your freakish hatred of Gov. Palin is strange enough, but this is beyond the pale.

As the proud father of a beautiful 6-year old girl, I'm absolutely baffled. Do you people not love your children? As parents, don't you feel the need to protect our little ones? Do you really beleive that Gov. Palin's little girl had this coming? Could uber-libs really be this sick?

This sick little man has a small child for cryin' out loud.

Tell ya what brave uber-libs - try making rape jokes about the children of Independent or Republican dads (in person), and see how that works out for you - make sure your medical insurance is paid up and be sure to bring a bag for teeth - the dentist will probably want them.

Posted by: Tim_CA | June 12, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

LKWalker says:

"Letterman lives in a glass house and shouldn't be casting stones"

I don't recall Letterman preaching his values to anyone.

Perhaps I missed that show.

Oh, right, he's not a politician. He's a comedian.

I don't think you would complain that an astrophysicist does not know anything about brain surgery, would you?

Comedians don't sell their moral values; they sell their jokes.

Got that straight now?

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin’s Girls Gone Wild - Excellent parenting skills, Sarah - lol

At least Sarah has one skill - Moving on up the GOP ladder by blaming her failures on others.

“Whine On” Sarah…

You go Church Lady…

Thanks for making me laugh at your childish cartoon antics.

Posted by: startravel | June 12, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

What does that ignorant Sarah Baracuda expect when she foolishly paraded her promiscuously unwed pregnant daughter before the entire nation during the most recent presidential campaign? The foolish GOP membership accepted this display of Baracuda's dysfunctional family values as normal.

What you see is what you get, and it may come back and bite you!

Posted by: arturocantante | June 12, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse
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Again, I got your talking points, which are off base from this discussion. I personally could care less what you think about the Governor's politics - the issue is, do YOU think it is OK to make pedophile comments about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter? If you do, then you have problems.

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

LKWalker says:

"Letterman lives in a glass house and shouldn't be casting stones"

I don't recall Letterman preaching his values to anyone.

Perhaps I missed that show.

Oh, right, he's not a politician. He's a comedian.

I don't think you would complain that an astrophysicist does not know anything about brain surgery, would you?

Comedians don't sell their moral values; they sell their jokes.

Got that straight now?

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse
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Even if they are jokes about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. Both Sarah and her daughter got pregnant without the benefit of matrimony. Give it a rest Sarah.

In Sarah's case there was the convenient excuse of eloping to keep her parents from having to pay big bucks for a wedding. Of course the birth of a baby less than 9 months later might also have had something to do with it.

Posted by: elizc1 | June 12, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Good grief. Both Sarah and her daughter got pregnant without the benefit of matrimony. Give it a rest Sarah.

In Sarah's case there was the convenient excuse of eloping to keep her parents from having to pay big bucks for a wedding. Of course the birth of a baby less than 9 months later might also have had something to do with it.

Posted by: elizc1 | June 12, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse
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OK, and again, what does this have to do with the scope of this discussion. I know how you on the Left take every opportunity to attack the Governor, which is a different subject, but, what does this have to do with Letterman making pedophile comments about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad the number of people who still thinks that the joke is about some 14 year old.

How many of you could really name any of her kids besides Bristol (before this trumped up contraversy)?

Now how many people in his audience (that day) do you think could have named any of her kids besides Bristol and the baby with the birth defect?

(And, no, I don't remember his/her name either.)

If it weren't for Palin's outrage, I wouldn't even know who "Willow" is.

The bottom line is that that joke is clearly about Bristol, and no amount of ranting and raving by Republicans can change that.

Letterman did not need to explain that joke. It was obviously about Bristol.

The fact that his "crack" research team (and remember, he is a late night comedian, not a news anchorman), missed the fact that Bristol was not the daughter that went with Sarah is of no consequence.

In fact, even if they did write the joke with the intent of targetting Willow, no one in his audience would have understood it that way.

It's time to review your evidence and stop pushing a point you cannot substantiate.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad the number of people who still thinks that the joke is about some 14 year old.

How many of you could really name any of her kids besides Bristol (before this trumped up contraversy)?

Now how many people in his audience (that day) do you think could have named any of her kids besides Bristol and the baby with the birth defect?

(And, no, I don't remember his/her name either.)

If it weren't for Palin's outrage, I wouldn't even know who "Willow" is.

The bottom line is that that joke is clearly about Bristol, and no amount of ranting and raving by Republicans can change that.

Letterman did not need to explain that joke. It was obviously about Bristol.

The fact that his "crack" research team (and remember, he is a late night comedian, not a news anchorman), missed the fact that Bristol was not the daughter that went with Sarah is of no consequence.

In fact, even if they did write the joke with the intent of targetting Willow, no one in his audience would have understood it that way.

It's time to review your evidence and stop pushing a point you cannot substantiate.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 5:54 PM | Report abuse
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Even if it was about her 18 year old it would still be despicable. Would it be OK with you if the joke had been about the teenage daughter of yours or your favorite Democrat politician? Get real...

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

The clearly mentally troubled ernesthua writes...."If it weren't for Palin's outrage, I wouldn't even know who "Willow" is."

Um...so what? I don't know Obama's children's names, but I certainly wouldn't find it funny if Letterman used them as the butt of his pedo fantasies - what's your point?

Our semi-literate friend then goes on to write..."The bottom line is that that joke is clearly about Bristol, and no amount of ranting and raving by Republicans can change that."

Um...no genius, Bristol didn't even attend the game...willow did....we all know who the pedo was referring to.

You are one sick dude amigo.

Posted by: Tim_CA | June 12, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I never heard Dave do a sex joke about bush's daughters, but he did did an alcohol joke because it was something they did and it was in the news already. Dave does not create these peoples problems; they do! When we learn to laugh about our problems we all become better human beings. Thanks Dave IMO you are a savior for humanity. Palin has shot the whole human race in the foot to spite her face.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

I never heard Dave do a sex joke about bush's daughters, but he did did an alcohol joke because it was something they did and it was in the news already. Dave does not create these peoples problems; they do! When we learn to laugh about our problems we all become better human beings. Thanks Dave IMO you are a savior for humanity. Palin has shot the whole human race in the foot to spite her face.

Posted by: ryan_heart | June 12, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse
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So, let me see if I understand you correctly; it is OK for Letterman to make a joke about A-Rod raping Palin's 14 year old daughter because it is something the Governor brought on herself, is that what you are saying? I don't know, maybe it is just me, but I fail to see ANY humor in a pedophile joke about anyone's daughter. Rape is rape, period...

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

It should be noted that Gov. Palin's reference to Pres. Obama and the "double-standard" is quite disengenuous as she implies that he told the media to leave HIS family alone (and that they did so because he was "the candidate that could not be disobeyed").

Last summer when a reporter questioned him at a rally as to his reaction to Bristol Palin's pregnancy, in his response that families were off limits he was adamantly defending HER FAMILY and requesting that the media leave THEM alone!
I very specifically recall this video because I admired his response to the reporter's question. See the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA3m-g_SBY4

I have even less respect for Gov. Palin for using this interview to take a cheap political shot at Obama who wasn't even any part of this whole Letterman incident, not to mention twisting the truth so much as to border on an outright lie. It only adds evidence to my original opinion that she definitely is too immature and vindictive to be Vice President or possibly President.

Posted by: GEM_1 | June 12, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin is a parent, and understandably protective of her children. However, this second round smacks of cynical opportunism at best, or worse, a lack of judgment.

Gov. Palin does not possess the temperament for a job that includes a plastic card with nuclear launch codes.

Posted by: bbb444 | June 12, 2009 12:18 PM
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How would you feel if your teenage daughter was the object of this joke, Letterman doesn't even really fully apologize, and then the media treats it like its no big deal? I think you would be on round 2 also. If not you're a horrible parent although it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

All the Palin comments on here are disgusting. Do you even realize your own hypocrisy when you bash someone like that and then claim victim status when a democrat is attacked?

She is right to bring up Obama saying "keep my family out of this" it is an excellent contrast. I've seen some posters on here with graphic disgusting posts against Palin who were railing on conservatives for attacking Obama's WIFE much less his DAUGHTERS.

Oh well I've mostly given up on the left. It is no wonder studies show many on the left to be much more angry. Your partisan vitriol is far more toxic than the majority of the right (not all).

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, maybe it is just me, but I fail to see ANY humor in a pedophile joke about anyone's daughter. Rape is rape, period...

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 6:34 PM
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I guess in today's political climate this makes you a republican.

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

The level of disconnect of modern liberals is just more and more disturbing.

It is "Hitler like" and whatever frothing at the mouth descriptions you can think of for a conservative commentator like Rush to want Obama's policies to fail.

However a liberal says they want a conservative to die of kidney failure or make a joke about a 14 year old rape and it makes Letterman a great person.

Wow I guess I should just feel fortunate my mind is not that warped. Sometimes I think I'm a little off the mark but then I just have to view threads like this to see its all relative.

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

So GEM_1 does an excellent job of summing up the uber-lib mindset as follows....."I have even less respect for Gov. Palin for using this interview to take a cheap political shot at Obama who wasn't even any part of this whole Letterman incident, not to mention twisting the truth so much as to border on an outright lie."

Wow. So her making the point that Obama said children should be off limits (which she agrees with) is a "Cheap shot" but Letterman's pedophile fantasy joke about a teen-age girl is just fine by you?

You have to be single guy living with mommydy and dad...no responsible adult with loving children would make such a foolish comment.

Posted by: Tim_CA | June 12, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, maybe it is just me, but I fail to see ANY humor in a pedophile joke about anyone's daughter. Rape is rape, period...

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 6:34 PM
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I guess in today's political climate this makes you a republican.

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse
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No, actually I'm an Independent, but the political preferences are not at issue here except to point out the double standard and hypocrisy that is part of the divide in this country, be it right or left. I can't understand why the people that hate Palin can't even get behind the idea of protecting our children from sick humor. Like I have said before, you can hate her politics as much as you want because I don't care; I do care about the OKness of the way some of our children are treated in the media and no one is expressing outrage, just because they don't like her politics? Please, give me a break.

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, maybe it is just me, but I fail to see ANY humor in a pedophile joke about anyone's daughter. Rape is rape, period...

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 6:34 PM
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I guess in today's political climate this makes you a republican.

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse
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No, actually I'm an Independent, but the political preferences are not at issue here except to point out the double standard and hypocrisy that is part of the divide in this country, be it right or left. I can't understand why the people that hate Palin can't even get behind the idea of protecting our children from sick humor. Like I have said before, you can hate her politics as much as you want because I don't care; I do care about the OKness of the way some of our children are treated in the media and no one is expressing outrage, just because they don't like her politics? Please, give me a break.
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Yeah sorry I couldn't hold in my sarcasm.

The media's bias has turned less into slanting issues (although still VERY prevalent) into just outright refusal to cover things that don't fit the agenda. Or on the flip side cover things that don't deserve it.

Posted by: Cryos | June 12, 2009 7:17 PM | Report abuse

To Tim_CA:
Actually, I'm a 51 year old Asian woman who has children and grandchildren and not at all an "uber-lib mindset", but rather centrist in political leanings, so your assumption is inaccurate and your labeling is incorrect, but no matter.

Letterman's joke was tasteless, but that was already a given and I didn't see a need to repeat what others have already said, and no doubt I can certainly understand her ire as a mother but others here have also mentioned it too.

My point on Gov. Palin is that she twists the truth, and I listened to her do it in many speeches during the campaign. In her interview here she clearly says that Obama told the media to leave HIS family alone and they did so because he was "the candidate that must be obeyed". The implication was that he was all about himself and that the media does everything he wants, so yes I do view that as an unnecessary political cheap shot, especialy since in the actual incident (go to the You Tube video and see for yourself) he had been defending HER and HER FAMILY, but she stated otherwise.

I would have respected her more if she'd simply made the case for herself and her daughter and left it at that and I stand by my original post.

Posted by: GEM_1 | June 12, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

"Even if it was about her 18 year old it would still be despicable. Would it be OK with you if the joke had been about the teenage daughter of yours or your favorite Democrat politician?"

You are assuming that I am a Democrat, and you are wrong, but feel free continue with your conspiratorial self-delusions.

I could really care less if the girl was 14 or 17 or 18 or 25. Sarah Palin pushes the Christian values thing like there is no tomorrow, and these pregnancies are the result of the impossible combination of:

1. No sex education.
2. Asking a hormone-filled kid to not have sex.

How well do you honestly think "don't look in that cookie jar" will keep a kid from looking in the cookie jar?

This BS is of her own making. If she made honest attempts to hide Bristol from the public view, then we would be thinking that Letterman and the other trash media hypers are a..holes.

But Sarah insisted on parading her pregnant teenage daughter in the national media. What the *@#!! is THAT about? Is she stupid? That is pretty much DARING the media to say something nasty about her.

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Now, about your ignorant line of repeated questions:

The question isn't about whether the rape of a 14-year old is okay subject for a joke because ...

1. The joke was not about rape. That is, at best, your ignorant interpretation.

2. The joke was not about a 14 year old. That is, at best, your ignorant interpretation.

You only have to be reasonably up-to-date current events to figure that out.

Again, I did not have to see the pseudo-apology to know that fact, and if he really did target Willow, none of us would have figured that out.

On the other hand, if you were foaming at the mouth about any nasty remark made about Republicans, then it is not surprising that you have distorted it to the extent you have done.

But if you don't get the joke, then don't go to that comedy venue.

Please remember that his show is "The Late Show With David Letterman". It is not PBS or Disney and it is not 8pm prime time.

If you tune in at that late hour, you get what you deserve. The joke may be in poor taste, but you can't pretend it is something far worse.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

The logically challenge Tim_CA says:

"Um...no genius, Bristol didn't even attend the game...willow did....we all know who the pedo was referring to."

1. Willow is not a high visibility Palin daughter. Bristol is.

2. Willow was never pregnant in some contraversial way. Bristol was.

I don't need to know if Letterman's writers did or did not know that the wrong daughter (for the joke) was in attendance.

The popular notions of the Palin family is enough to make the joke work about Bristol. It could never work if it was about anyone else in that family due to the name recognition.

Therefore, you are full of it. You are just arguing a point you can't justify, or you are the kind of person who gets a confused look when someone asks "if a tree falls in the forest ...".

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

NY city slickers, self-deprecating elites/buffed-up knowledge maroons and most all holier than thou hypocrites (closed minds) and self-hating Jews spewing rubbish and insulting hardworking Americans. Maybe Middle America stop or ban the shipment of food to NY city for a month. Maybe that will teach them something about American who work for living and earn it the old fashion way not by swindling people and ridiculing them for being honest folks. I think there should be a lesson to learned here.

Posted by: pesta1958 | June 12, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

This proves one thing. As funny as Letterman is, Sarah Palin is still the biggest "joke." If my memory serves me correctly, it was her that dragged her poor pregnant daughter on stage infront of millions along with her retarded son. Suddenly she has gotten all righteous?

Posted by: carolo43 | June 12, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Please remember that his show is "The Late Show With David Letterman". It is not PBS or Disney and it is not 8pm prime time.

If you tune in at that late hour, you get what you deserve. The joke may be in poor taste, but you can't pretend it is something far worse.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse
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So, with your line of thinking, it is OK to joke about raping a 14 year old politician's daughter in the name of late night comedy, is that correct? So you are saying that it is OK for the pedophiles to come out at midnight, is that also correct?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

This proves one thing. As funny as Letterman is, Sarah Palin is still the biggest "joke." If my memory serves me correctly, it was her that dragged her poor pregnant daughter on stage infront of millions along with her retarded son. Suddenly she has gotten all righteous?

Posted by: carolo43 | June 12, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse
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OK, you hate Sarah Palin and anything she does, especially her politics, but, what does this have to do with a pedophile empowering comedian making jokes about a 14 year old girl being raped and knocked up by A-Rod? What would you be doing if he had made the statement about a teen age Democratic politician's daughter? Would you feel the same way or would you be as outraged as we are? I call on you to get past the politics and support decency. Rape is rape, no matter whose daughter it is.

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

Here's the thing. Public figures should expect that the whole family is going to be targeted. Not saying that it is right, but that's the reality.

Except when it comes to children of liberals and Democrats. God forbid if somebody makes a sick comment about Obama's kids in a couple of years when one of them is Willow Palin's age.

Posted by: Darlene_Jr | June 12, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

One writer asks, "what does this have to do with Letterman making pedophile comments about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter?"

As I recall the unfolding of the story, it was Todd Palin who first mentioned Willow by name and used the term "rape." Therefore the fundamental premise of this query is flawed.

The Palins must have some fairly over-blown egos to imagine that they are so captivating, the entire American populace would be aware of which children accompanied them to a baseball game in NYC.

It is sickening to me that Todd Palin put these words out into the public arena ("rape" and "Willow"), Letterman did not.
It is extreme, inflammatory and ridiculous that they constantly are whining about the attention shown their children when, as in this instance, they bring it on themselves.

They are blowing this up for one reason only--to remain in the public eye. However, it is backfiring miserably.

Posted by: WI-Simone | June 12, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

DL13 (assuming he is not a troll) says:

"So, with your line of thinking, it is OK to joke about raping a 14 year old politician's daughter in the name of late night comedy, is that correct? So you are saying that it is OK for the pedophiles to come out at midnight, is that also correct?"

I guess you just can't read.

The issue is not about rape or about a 14 year old, except in your mind. Since you are hell bent on interpreting it that way, you are probably doing so because, otherwise, there is no logical way for you to even fume about this.

It seems like you have to find some excuse to get upset so no matter what is reality to most everyone else, so you insist on putting "rape" and "14 year old" in there.

Any particular reason?

Did you actually see and hear the joke as originally presented?

Do you know what kind of jokes Letterman normally does?

If you cannot understand it, and you insist on putting your own spin on it, that is entirely YOUR problem.

Do a little research first before you open your mouth. It helps.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm really amazed at just how many different ways the word "hypocrite" or "hypocrisy" has been used here, and it would seem as though just about everyone thinks he/she is talking about the same hypocrisy when every few of you really are.

It is almost as if we are all using different dictionaries.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

David Letterman is the only late night host who employs "on camera" women. There is not a female to be seen on Conan, Fallon, Carson, Craig and Kimmel occasionally has Beatrice who performs a stereotypical character but at least it's something. As a women from the liberation army, I do not want Sarah Palin as any sort of role model or spokesperson. Why can't she spend more time with her family and performing her overpaid duties in her own state? Do I want an apology for televiision abuse? You betcha!

Posted by: aubpire1 | June 12, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Letterman is a bully! You just don't say that about someone's daughter. The little girl is 14 and the older girl is 18.

Time for Letterman to retire!

Posted by: strikehold | June 12, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Matt Lauer should had been harder on this dimwit especially when he asked her about hte Republican rep who called this crap she's taking credit for bogus and she responded well its political...well isn't it political and what she bases herself to have at least 1% chance to win in 2012 on the destiny of this pipeline? This is what Matt Lauer should had rebutted with...

She's a freaking ignorant when she goes to the past and plays the 'victim' card like if the freaking right didn't attack Mrs Obama and they still do...

She's despicable, ignorante and brainless...worse of all she's now vindictive...be scare America...we were stupid enough to vote for Bush twice we can be really stupid to put this dimwit in the general election again!!!

Posted by: silentbat | June 12, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Matt Lauer should had been harder on this dimwit especially when he asked her about hte Republican rep who called this crap she's taking credit for bogus and she responded well its political...well isn't it political and what she bases herself to have at least 1% chance to win in 2012 on the destiny of this pipeline? This is what Matt Lauer should had rebutted with...

She's a freaking ignorant when she goes to the past and plays the 'victim' card like if the freaking right didn't attack Mrs Obama and they still do...

She's despicable, ignorante and brainless...worse of all she's now vindictive...be scare America...we were stupid enough to vote for Bush twice we can be really stupid to put this dimwit in the general election again!!!

Posted by: silentbat | June 12, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

DL13 (assuming he is not a troll) says:

"So, with your line of thinking, it is OK to joke about raping a 14 year old politician's daughter in the name of late night comedy, is that correct? So you are saying that it is OK for the pedophiles to come out at midnight, is that also correct?"

I guess you just can't read.

The issue is not about rape or about a 14 year old, except in your mind. Since you are hell bent on interpreting it that way, you are probably doing so because, otherwise, there is no logical way for you to even fume about this.

It seems like you have to find some excuse to get upset so no matter what is reality to most everyone else, so you insist on putting "rape" and "14 year old" in there.

Any particular reason?

Did you actually see and hear the joke as originally presented?

Do you know what kind of jokes Letterman normally does?

If you cannot understand it, and you insist on putting your own spin on it, that is entirely YOUR problem.

Do a little research first before you open your mouth. It helps.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 12, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse
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OK, I got your lame excuses for sticking up for Letterman; evidently you don't get the seriousness about the content of what Letterman said; he said, in essence, that during the 7th inning that A-Rod went up into the stands and knocked up the Governors daughter. The only daughter she had with her was the 14 year old, which would make it statutory rape, according to the law. So, yes, I did my research. Rape is rape, what part of it don't you understand?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Matt Lauer should had been harder on this dimwit especially when he asked her about hte Republican rep who called this crap she's taking credit for bogus and she responded well its political...well isn't it political and what she bases herself to have at least 1% chance to win in 2012 on the destiny of this pipeline? This is what Matt Lauer should had rebutted with...

She's a freaking ignorant when she goes to the past and plays the 'victim' card like if the freaking right didn't attack Mrs Obama and they still do...

She's despicable, ignorante and brainless...worse of all she's now vindictive...be scare America...we were stupid enough to vote for Bush twice we can be really stupid to put this dimwit in the general election again!!!

Posted by: silentbat | June 12, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse
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OK, you hate Sarah Palin and you want to destroy her in any way possible, but this discussion is about the Remarks made by David Letterman about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter. The question I have is what would your reaction be if any news commentator or comedian had made a similar remark about our President's children? Would you be reacting the same way or would you be like me and want our children to be protected from the pedophile enablers?

Posted by: DL13 | June 12, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Jamie Foxx goes after Miley Cyrus in an extremely offensive way. David Letterman goes after a young (14 or 18, doesn't matter) woman. In both cases, NO ramifications. Don Imus makes a stupid and inappropriate comment about female basketball players, he's fired from 2 jobs.

To those who wish to turn this around and attack Palin, you obviously don't have daughters, have respect for women, or, if you are a woman --- you don't respect yourself very much.

People like Letterman and Foxx are pigs, pure and simple.

Maybe we can get Andrew "Dice" Clay, Jamie Foxx or Johnny Vegas to publicly rip on Dave's son, Harry. He is the kid Letterman fathered 6 years before marrying his mother.

If you want to challenge Palin's politics, views and ideas, fine, but please do so in the right venue, and not as an attempted distraction to Letterman's gross attack on women everywhere.

Posted by: Scott-PA | June 12, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Whether Sarah Palin is in the political eye or a private citizen with NO political ties, David Letterman needs to stop using her children or any other children in his jokes. Perverted comments like those are NOT funny no matter how they are intended. I do not personally believe Mr. Letterman would intentionally say those things to hurt anyone, but the comments were definitely in poor taste and should these kinds of comments cross his desk again, he should toss them promptly into the nearest trash can. No matter what profession a person is in, when you love your children, it really hurts when someone says mean things about them. I can only imagine that being in the public eye would only make things worse. Yes, Mrs. Palin knew that her family would be greatly scrutinized when she agreed to be Mr. McCain's running mate, but those scrutinizing them (and her) are also adults with families of their own. I am sure that their families are never going to be in the spotlight, unless of course something awful should happen to them or unless their parents bring them into the spotlight. Maybe Mrs. Palin does advocate abstinence instead of birth control or sex education, so do I, but it didn't keep 2 of my 3 children from having children out of wedlock. I taught them as well as I could, but they both have minds of their own and did it anyway. But, you know what? I love those grandchildren just as much as I do the grandchild I have through wedlock. And why, all of a sudden, is everyone freaking out about a child born out of wedlock anyway? Celebrities do it all the time and no one seems to care. As a matter of fact, the crazier things a celebrity does the more successful they seem to be. Now where's the double standard? This world is full of double standards, yet we seem so accepting. Well, I'll just say that Mr. Letterman used extremely poor judgment when he made his comments, but, what have you done lately that was of poor judgment? Not one of you can say you're perfect and neither can I. If you're living in a glass house, it would be wise not to throw stones!!! We ALL say and do stupid things. If we all had a nickel for all the stupid things we've said and done there would be no recession!!! My wish is that everyone would stop and think about their words and deeds BEFORE we say and do!

Posted by: cmcaide | June 13, 2009 12:23 AM | Report abuse

DL32 says:

"... this discussion is about the Remarks made by David Letterman about A-Rod raping her 14 year old daughter ..."

Ok, so you start with "Letterman is suggesting that A-Rod rape Willow", and then you ask "what don't you understand"?

Hmm ... I get it now. You are one of those people who thinks that if you say a bogus statement enough times, it will be true.

"There is no place like home ..." click click

"There is no place like home ..." click click

Good luck living in your fantasy world.

There are lots of reasons why Palin lost, and one of them is because the only people who could reasonably support her have to think like you.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 13, 2009 12:36 AM | Report abuse

On Palin's "double standard":

The so-called "double standard" Sarah Palin is talking about is definitely about a speech where Barack was defending Sarah's family, and not Barack's family. Obviously, he is asking everyone to respect both, not just Sarah's.

For those of you that keep bringing this incident up as Barack defending his own kids, check your information. Check the words. It is more useful than to just blatantly ignore the facts.

Posted by: ernesthua | June 13, 2009 3:45 AM | Report abuse

Why are we only talking about Palin's daughter. How does Alex Rodriguez feel about it. It would be good if Letterman invites both Alex and Sarah and have a healthy debate (then share the profits).

Posted by: ridagana | June 13, 2009 4:48 AM | Report abuse

why is it that Prejean was so supportted about her right to freedom of speech, when the conservative media went after the Dixie Chicks so intensely they got death threats? Three traditionally married women with kids and no surgically enhanced body parts get called sl#ts, wh@res and traitors for saying they were ashamed the President was from Texas. They were professionally ostarsized, etc...where was their right to freedom of speech?
Palin cannot have jumped into the race without knowing her kids would be scrutinized, and yet she chose to run anyways. The joke was in poor taste, and offensive, but to call Dave a pervert or a pedophile is way overboard. He was obviously referring to the daughter who had been "knocked up", Bristol, who also put herself out there in the public eye, can't expect favourable press all the time. And as far as Obama's daughters go, they aren't on red carpets, they haven't gone through a teen pregnancy, they aren't on Larry King talking about abstinence, so of course they get treated differently. I'm a mom, and I get the whole protective thing, but she's going overboard, big surprise, and since she's done nothing but slam the media since she started the VP race, how can she expect them to be respectful of boundaries about her family, when she's put them out there? I have seen more pictures of Bristol and Levi and the baby then I have of Sacha and Malia since Jan. 20/09. Bristol isn't a minor and is unfortunately fair game in the eyes of the media. Sarah's outrage is too late, she should have thought about this before she agreed to run. Impulsive much?

Posted by: katem1 | June 13, 2009 9:55 AM | Report abuse

It would seem to me if she was so concerned about her family she would have ignored the joke, instead she refocused the issue, The far Right Holier than thou mother was a lousey one, with one knocked up daughter, it wouldn't be such a big deal but she parades herself as the better than all religious freak, advise to Palin ..your approval rating will go up if you just shut up.

Posted by: tomwatkinsesq | June 13, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: roverfind | June 13, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

John McCain should apologize to America for bringing this ignorant, shrill woman to national attention.

Imagine if an inappropriate comment had been made about one of the Obama girls. Do you imagine that the prez or Mrs. Obama would do a media tour to whine and lash out about it? They would not do so because they have class and dignity, something Palin is sorely lacking.

Posted by: jam754 | June 13, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I, for one, am glad that Sarah has made such an issue of the Letterman comment. As a Republican, I was dismayed and alarmed that "my" party would select such an unqualified candidate for the VP nomination last fall. With each succeeding faux pas, the Palins are ensuring that Sarah will not be the party candidate for the next election (thank God). Now, if Bristol would just submit her application to be Paris' BFF, or the family as a whole would just call Jerry Springer, we could stop calling Sarah a "politician" by any stretch of the imagination and call her what she is - a media hungry wannabe MILF who obviously doesn't understand the meaning of "double-standard" (else she wouldn't parade her own family in front of the media at every opportunity, then blast someone who makes a joke about one of them). I didn't vote for Obama, but I certainly respect his insistence that his family (especially his young daughters) should not be subjected to scrutiny and ridicule. Personally, I believe that any politician who uses his/her young children to further their own agenda should be charged with exploitation of a minor. BTW, that would equally apply to magazines, newspapers, bloggers, et al. Celebs and politicians volunteer to be in the spotlight, their children have been denied that right.

Posted by: TensDiet | June 13, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

What Leftist hypocrisy.

I wrote a post yesterday which was not allowed by the blogger.

It was simply making comments like Letterman made but about Obama's girls. It was a mere exercise and the Leftists in the media passed.

They score a 100% for hypocrisy.

Posted by: rbmiller1 | June 13, 2009 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow. I just read every single comment here. It was a long slog, but here are my thoughts after reading this collection of remarks.

1. Many, perhaps most, of the pro-Palin people refer to Letterman as a "pedophile". It seems to me that this is so patently stupid as to undermine the rest of what these people say. A person who reads a joke someone else wrote about a public figure (talking about Bristol here) on late-night TV cannot automatically be assumed to harbor inappropriate sexual thoughts about children under 12 (the definition of pedophilia). Saying so simply makes the person saying it sound unhinged.

2. I was happy that so few of the pro-Palin people posted the tiresome right-wing shrieking point about how LIBERALS ARE TERRIFIED OF SARAH PALIN!!!! I am *so* sick of that one!

3. It seems undeniable that it was Palin who pushed her family (and Levi) into the public eye at every opportunity during the campaign. I don't see how she can whine so when people talk (and joke) about them now.

4. Palin has established a political persona based on an endless series of feuds, constant whining and complaining, the merging of her personal and public lives, and always portraying herself as a victim. She is also dysfunctional in her dealings with others, as we saw in her on-again, off-again appearance at the recent fundraiser in Washington and on many other occasions.

5. I'm afraid that the anti-Letterman folks who see him being fired, condemned by mothers across America, and so on, are in for yet another Big Disappointment.

Posted by: MarkFromOhio | June 13, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

We are liberal Democrats and we are for minorities, women and the oppressed.

Except when women, men and the oppressed have conservative beliefs.

You people are delusional, thinking that you are for women and minorities. It's actually quite funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

Posted by: rbmiller1 | June 13, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a living, breathing, walking and talking (entirely too much) joke. We don't need Letterman to crack a joke about her; all she must do is open her mouth. I must admit I find some entertainment watching her run around trying to compensate for her mediocrity. It's like a classic Greek tragedy played out in real life and it never ends. Or Caesar crying out to Brutus but he just won't die. Palin is the wounded Caesar. The ignorant, disloyal American public is Brutus. You just can't beat reality.

Posted by: andrewbrobinson | June 13, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Palin in wrong about Obama - Obama's plea was for her family not for himself and let's remember who trotted her family out on every stage:

From the WSJ Sept 2008:

Barack Obama had harsh words for reporters asking about Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin’s pregnant teenage daughter: Don’t go there.

“I think people’s families are off limits and I think people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president and so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama told reporters after a Labor Day BBQ in Monroe, Mich.

The response comes after Palin and her husband, Todd, released a statement that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, is five-months pregnant. A rumor circulating the blogosphere claims someone inside the Obama campaign leaked the pregnancy to the media. An unnamed McCain aide said the same to Reuters, according to the news wire service’s report.

Obama said he was “offended” by the accusation.

“We don’t go after people’s families, we don’t get them involved in the politics, it is not appropriate and it is not relevant. Our people were not involved in any way in this and they will not be. And if I ever thought it was somebody in the campaign that was involved in something like that they would be fired,” he said before getting into his campaign bus visibly disturbed by the question.

Posted by: FauxReal | June 13, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Just to comment on something often invoked to defend whatever stupid thing someone says: the First Amendment prevents Congress from passing any law that might restrict free speech. It does not mean the public or your employer cannot punish you for what you say. In these debates, people often say something like: "well, this is a free country. He has a First Amendment right to say whatever he wants!" Well, that's true. But, nobody is threatening to put David Letterman in jail for cracking wise about the Palin family! BTW, if David had threatened the Palins and the threat were credible, then he might have legal trouble. Just want to clarify for those who don't understand the First Amendment.

Posted by: Leadville | June 13, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

To ryan_heart:

Right wing eh? Digg this: I had been a liberal since the day I could first vote. When my dad voted for Reagan, I considered him a traitor. When I became enlightened concerning moral issues of conscience, I then considered being a conservative.

Then I thought: they both have fringe extremes that I don't want to associate my name with. The right fringe is slow to act, & has racist skeletons that pop out of the closet too often. The left fringe are tree-hugging, bleeding-hearts that mock God to the point of blasphemy. So after some soul-searching, I discovered that the TRUTH of any matter is always, to some degree in the middle of the 80% who is split to both ends of the reactionary spectrum.

I am an independent, moderate, centrist who's principles are based in a correctly interpreted biblical conscience base, to be understood through the practice of logic & the discovery through science, sociology, history, archeology, & anthropology. Yes I have matriculated extremely well in a few university class rooms.

Therefore, I am not in association with conservatism, according to your so-called perceptions & myopic first impressions. Shows how much you know :-)

Hence, my opinion on this matter is even-handed & centrist. And I refuse to label you by spinning facts & throwing names at you.

Posted by: mcafrokee | June 14, 2009 5:29 AM | Report abuse

Her parenting is questionable. And her Affiliations are obvious. Ms. Palin needs to answer some serious questions. All information can be verified on the internet. I checked. I couldn't believe it at first.

Palin- The joke is that you hold yourself out to be a religious right wing conservative with religious-right affiliations

White Supremacist: AIP Official On Tape Saying Sarah Palin Was A Member

http://mirroronamerica.blogspot.com/2008/09/aip-official-on-tape-saying-sarah-palin.html

If the media is doing its job of vetting. Someone follow up on this.

If Palin is the front runner for the GOP...there's not a lot to be concerned about. If the media is doing its job of vetting, follow up on this.

Her questionable interaction was with the "Alaska Independence Party" (AIP) that wants to make Alaska a Foreign Country- separate from the USA. Palin's husband, Todd, was a longterm member (up until mid 2008) of the AIP until her political career started to take off.

The AIP is part of a network of extreme, often violent, right-wing secessionist groups across the U.S. associated with neo-Confederate, White Power, anti-Semitism and White supremacist ...

Todd and Sarah have both attended several AIP conventions. Sarah has been photographed reading an article by the John Birch Society calling for a NEW Constitutional Convention- which would overthrow our existing US Constitition.

Palin went to GA. and campaigned for Chambliss. Chambliss has used racially loaded, us-versus-them rhetoric in his campaign before. Just prior to Nov. 4th, Chambliss bluntly warned his white base that “the other folks are voting,” adding that the “rush to the polls by African-Americans early” has “got our side energized early, they see what is happening.”


Posted by: lindarc | June 14, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow. What a collection of pathos and confusion.

DL13 - dude, get back on your meds. Seriously. You are one of those folks who is locked into denial. You simply cannot accept the possibility that The tOdd Couple are a tag-team of low-life opportunists.

This whole thing has been an attempt by them to change the "Palin narrative" and garner sympathy. She had just been dissed big time by the national party, and her inflammatory rhetoric during the campaign is coming under question as we see week after week incidents of right-wing hate, violence, and murder. A change of subject was necessary to staunch the hemorrhaging of Palin's presidential ambitions.

If you are upset about suggesting the rape of a 14 year old girl, then take it up with the Toddster, not David Letterman. Because it was Todd Palin who FIRST mentioned anything about sexualizing their 14 year old daughter. And what a great way to sensationalize this - such an emotionally laden term, rape. Todd Palin is a fraud. A disingenuous, smarmy fraud who is willing to undeservedly destroy another man's reputation simply to advance his wife's political fortunes.

Jokes are funny by virtue of how they tie together a group of premises. In this instance the premises were that Palin's daughter was promiscuous due to the unwed teen pregnancy; and, A-Rod and Eliot Spitzer are horn-dogs who like young women due to their newsmaking exploits of the past few years. For this reason, everyone who heard the joke immediately thought of Bristol because she is the daughter who fits the premise of the joke. If Letterman was referring to the other daughter there is no joke because the premises are faulty.

For example, if Palin's daughters were all virtuous and Bristol wasn't a teen mom, then the joke would have been purely based on the A-Rod/Spitzer horndog premise as being a threat to their virtuous daughters - it would not have gotten laughs because it would have been a creepy reference to the girls. But this is not the case. Bristol WAS knocked-up and IS in the public eye by choice. She is a fair target for late night comedians' political humor, and she WAS the target of this joke, regardless of what brain-dead "MORANS" like DL13 choose to willfully ignore.

Posted by: kbman | June 14, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

It's simple. Letterman should look in the mirror for each joke he says and ask if the joke was about his younger wife or his mother, would he still laugh?

Posted by: gfhoward258 | June 14, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

No one seems to be concerned at all that, apart from Letterman"s pathetic trashing of Palin and her daughter ,his vulgar little joke implies that Alex Rodrigez is a pedophile rapist.

Posted by: solemnman | June 15, 2009 4:34 AM | Report abuse

These comments of the part of Liberals speak to their mental disorder, of not be able to grasp the concept of decency and respect for children and woman. Just look at what they consider healthy education for innocent children.
http:www.masssresistance.org
http:wwwdrreisman.org
http:silentscream.org
And Planned Parenthood
This is a pretty sick world for children
And the liberal education system

Posted by: boski66 | June 15, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

I forgot to mention please check out
Dawn Stafanowicz, out from under. Goggle it.
Also Goggle Boston Children's Hospital Sex Change Clinic. Is all that free medical care going to cover all of this????

Posted by: boski66 | June 15, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

There is no excuse for how mean these comments are about Sarah Palin. You people should be ashamed of yourselves. We strongly disagree with Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, et al, but we dont attack them personally. You people are mean as hell.

Posted by: DStiers | June 15, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Of course there's a double standard. DUH!

It's the same double standard our "journalists" display when they present fawning coverage of Obama, but couldn't even accurately present facts about George Bush which showed him in a good light.

The MSM is so biased, I can only read them in small doses.

It's why they are going bankrupt. I won't miss them!

Posted by: bh150243 | June 15, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Skip letterman... go to Leno. The real comedian is quick and funny; the other guy is a smart alect wise guy verbal thug that needs to have the air in his room recycled. He is not funny, he's annoying to say the least.
As for those that think he's funny, get a life... consider respect first rather than gutter side swipes.

Posted by: rterry1 | June 15, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

As I recall the democrat, liberals are the authors of hate crimes. What promoted this so-called joke, that promotes a dirty old man to joke about a young girl being raped by a baseball star, public event goers should not be subjected to this type of sexual abuse talk, nor should the baseball star be accused of raping a child. If this isn't a hate crime I don't know what is, the liberal have attacked Sarah Plain and her family in every imaginable form, and don't stop ever. Willow and Bristol must file a lawsuit against Letterman and the company that allows and permits his platform to do so.

Posted by: boski66 | June 15, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

My politics are somewhat to the left of the Democrats, but I have to ask, are some of those comments above, purported to be from Republicans, "straw-men" set up by Democrats?
Such illiterate phlegm and bile surely cannot be genuine.

Posted by: sunofawot | June 15, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Of course there is a media double standard regarding reporting on Republicans or Democrats. If some nuckle-head, like Letterman, got away with saying these nasty "jokes" about the Palin family, just let him try the same with Michelle Obama, Malia and Sasha, and all hell would brake loose. Literally!

Posted by: Tommypie | June 15, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Of course there is a media double standard regarding reporting on Republicans or Democrats. If some nuckle-head, like Letterman, got away with saying these nasty "jokes" about the Palin family, just let him try the same with Michelle Obama, Malia and Sasha, and all hell would brake loose. Literally!

Posted by: Tommypie | June 15, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

As I read the line of comments above, the irrational hatred of Palin is astounding. She, as well as those of us who share her viewpoints, are not stupid. We think, we reason, we love, and we join the military to fight and die if necessary to keep this country free. We run businesses, we work hard, we go to church and we think differently than many of the folks from the east and west coasts.
But you cannot keep up the level of hate-filled rhetoric that is written in the posts here without good people who are Democrats and Republicans becoming sick of being identified with you. Neither can you continue to curse ANY other people to this level without eventually giving action to your words. Your words reveal who and what you are on the inside. That goes for Republicans and Democrats alike.
A great man once said, "A tree is identified by its fruit. If a tree is good, its fruit will be good. If a tree is bad, its fruit will be bad ... A good person produces good things from the the abundance of what he is on the inside."
Both sides need to lower the level of accusations and change the tone ... and try to protect the unity of the country before this gets out of hand.

Posted by: trevithick | June 15, 2009 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah,....you're perceived as one who just does not understand the issues to any depth whatsoever. That you continue mucking around the republican national stage only drags down republicans further (if that's even possible). Consistency in action? Try is sometime, for a change. Entertaining? Amusing? Desperate? Shrill?....yes sweetie, you're all these things, and borish to boot.

Posted by: skiloypet | June 15, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

It's laughable that the Palin crowd preaches abstinence. It also HATES supervision or regulation. Quite possibly, with a little more SUPERVISION, Palin's #1 daughter would not have become pregnant! But, you reap what you sow. And so does your reputation.

Posted by: MouthSore | June 15, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

For McCain to pick this madwoman Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential running mate is very strange indeed. This alone assured his loss. Where were the big wigs to allow this stupid, foolish woman on the ticket was folly! She is no damn good! Or maybe as dog-catcher for the state of Alaska she might qualify.

Posted by: paulagoldman20 | June 15, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I like Letterman and I am no fan of Sarah Palin. But his joke about her daughter was in poor taste. His apology made it worse by saying it was refering to the adult daughter.Hope he realises that the underage daughters of the President are "untouchables". If he is waiting for them to become adults ...it will be too late.

Posted by: ad50 | June 15, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Puh-leez, Mary Ann, look in the mirror. "Alleged" double standard? You & your MSM pals "alleged" objectivity is just as sickening as are the majority of the Lib commenters here. No better than Katie Couric; just wish you'd make her salary.

Posted by: 4Ztribbles | June 15, 2009 1:51 PM | Report abuse

I am a 53 year-old white male from Tennessee. I have heard the term "white trash" all of my life but have never seen it more oerfectly embodied than by the Alaskan Palin clan. Can't this woman please shut up and go away? I thought Andy Warhol put a fifteen minute time limit on unearned/undeserved fame.

Posted by: cdmomega | June 15, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

It was in poor taste but Sara is also in poor taste to accuse him of being liar(knew it was the younger daughter when all of us took as being the oldest daughter) pervert, upholds rape of young girls. He made a mistake and was wrong but so is she wrong. She can say nasty vile things and that is OK. What is wrong with this picture?

If this is how we expect leaders to respond our airways would sure be jammed up. She should have handled it privately and had him apologize the next night on his show and forgive the incident.

Its disturbing that she twisted the truth so much in this incident.


Posted by: mac7 | June 15, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who are trying to hurt Letterman in some way ...

You are doing it all wrong.

Your incessant rant of "14-year-old rape" will only attract attention to your rather poor reading of the joke.

In fact, any amount of extra attention will only give Letterman what he wants, which is ratings.

The way to attack him is to hit him where it hurts:

1. Accuse him of deliberately provoking the Palins into responding.

2. Accuse him of milking this tiff for publicity.

The whole "14-year-old" thing is not going to harm him in the eyes of his devoted audience. On the other hand, accusations of needling the Palins for publicity will actually make some of these viewers think twice.

But the bigger picture item you are forgetting is that if you are for Palin, you are probably hoping that she would bring back the Republican party, and she won't. She simply does not have the public relations skills for it. She can appeal only to a small segment of the population that is already devoted to the stuff she is saying.

There are just as few nuts on the other extremes, but to really get the Republicans back, the party will have to appeal to the middle, who are skeptical and want real brains and real answers.

You really need someone smart to pick up the pace and put pressure on the Democrats.

Some of us want some checks and balances and do not want one party rule, no matter the party.


Posted by: ernesthua | June 15, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Could Sarah be palling around with Letterman to increase the ratings of both? Think so especially since she said she didn't want to increase his ratings but did.

Posted by: Patriot3 | June 15, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

and what happened to the IMAN when he said that the girls basketball team were HO's, he got fired. Do you think that Dave will suffer the same fate. Where are the womens groups now? The sad thing is that Dave went on the air the following night and made the same joke, only about a different man, the former gov. of NY with the Palin girl. It is sad how the press is handling this and the fact that Dave to dumb a== will not say he is sorry when he is about as sorry as they come.

Posted by: dy19spider57 | June 15, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight, Gov. Palin has the temerity to complain about the MSM not treating the families of the presidential contenders equally. Well let's see, Pres. Obama and VP Biden kept the activities of their children to a minimum, as did Rep. candidate McCain, although his adult children expressed their opinions and supported them with well thought out statements, Gov. Palin on the other hand espoused how religious her familiy was and how they lived out the "true" American values that were more representative of most of the nation. I am a moderate, my son also knows that I do not believe in premarital sex, but he also knows about contraceptives. He has been told numerous times that I trust him to make the proper decisions in his life and that I would support him in whatever his decisions were. I am also not out in my community acting as if my family is on that others should base their lives on. My son has also promised my wife and I that he would not have sex until he is married. Those are my standards. In the end, if she wishes to keep her children's private lives private, leave them home when on "official" travel. This was a complaint about her during the campaign, seems like she still hasn't learned. Her recent trip to NY, I have to wonder if she demanded that her daughter be included in her travel and would love to see a FOIA request on that one. This doesn't excuse any statement made by Letterman but does Gov. Palin really think that most of the nation, upon hearing that statement thought, 'My God, how could David Letterman make a statement like that about cute little 14 year old Willow', most of the nation probably didn't even remember her name. Most more than likely thought about Bristol, you know, young single mother, happy to be with the single father of her baby, ooops, not quite true there anymore either, or was that just a cover for the election?

Posted by: jifler2004 | June 15, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Palin might not be as well-spoken as Obama, but at least she's not a phoney. Michelle and Barrack are Chicago politicians through and through. No one, including most of the press, has scrutinized them the way in which they have Palin, McCain, Bush, Cheney, and so on. The Obamas continued to receive a pass. Where were the Comedians when Barrack said, "57 states." Just yesterday, at a town hall meeting(the kind he refused to partake in with McCain)when he said "unsatisfied." YALE GRAD???!!!! PHONEY, phoney, phoney...and the press elected him. Palin was and is being destroyed by a grade school mentality. Followers, not thinkers are heading up the press these days. SAD really.

Posted by: jobro2 | June 16, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Having spent most of my working life in and around news rooms I know there is a double standard. The bigger the news market the bigger the liberal bias. That's OK, we're all biased but keep your bias off the page and off the air. That's not a done anymore. I also know that the most hatefull, full of nasty language letters came from those with a "liberal" point of view. Reading the comments here
proves my point.

Posted by: NewsJunkie8 | June 16, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Mary Ann, what do you mean "alleges"? We all can see the double standard that the majority of the print media has against conservatives. This is also reflected in the major TV networks with the exception of FOX. If it wasn't for talk radio, conservatives would be out in the cold.

Posted by: gerrypooh | June 16, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Mary Ann, what do you mean "alleges"? We all can see the double standard that the majority of the print media has against conservatives. This is also reflected in the major TV networks with the exception of FOX. If it wasn't for talk radio, conservatives would be out in the cold.

Posted by: gerrypooh | June 16, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Boy, the vitriol against Sarah Palin expressed in these comments must mean that the liberals really fear her. She sure can excite a political rally.

Posted by: gerrypooh | June 16, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

It is embarrassing to read the comments on this subject. I think Letterman owes all women an apology for his tasteless jokes about Palin's appearance and her daughters as sex objects. While 'you' may not think there is a problem because 'you' can see that it was only a joke, I suggest that 'you' think about what message this is giving to our young people and children about the value, or lack thereof, of people of one gender.

If a comedian (or his writers) can't find humor that doesn't demean women and girls, maybe they should rethink their professions.

Posted by: annetta3 | June 16, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Seems to me that if a double standard was set, it was Palin and the GOP. When she was announced as the VP with McCain, she was touted as Alaska's hot governor. The GOP touted her as a hottie at their convention. They even produced buttons to wear and laughed and carried on like a rowdy crowd at a bar. Not once did the GOP brag on her intellectual accomplishments. It was quite apparent, all throughout the election process, words were placed in her mouth. Even now, the men in support of Palin do so out of an attraction to her physically, opposed to supporting her and her smarts. Who started this? The GOP. Go research the stories on who visited her prior to John McCain.

Posted by: vikkids | June 16, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

If Palin had any dignity she would just say Letterman went over the line and admit that he probably knows he did, except an apology and forget it. But shes not intelligent enough to do that.

Posted by: kimkimminni1 | June 16, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I hope none of you fine liberal people who accuse conservatives of being mean spirited have young daughters. That would give you some excuse for being so vituperrious .
Otherwise--I, as a father of two girls, am astounded at the utter meanness of the comments I have read.

Wow! You people continue to amaze me.

Posted by: cgm205 | June 16, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I wonder why people find the childish Letterman to be so funny. I occasionally tune in to see if he's become any less of a child. He hasn't. Mature people recognize his infantile ways and pay little attention to what he has to say about anything. Sarah Palin should ignore him, though it's hard to do when he attacks her directly. She's not actively seeking office and seems to be minding her own business. I do not think that she or her family deserved to be attacked by this guy who's never grown up. His Palin remarks were as tasteless as they have always been. He shoul use himself as the source of his humor about people. Now that would be laughable!

Posted by: murzek1 | June 16, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

It is interesting to read the comments. Basically, they content that the Palin's are low-lifes what have no right to complain, that they brought their daughters into the limelight and therefore any tomatoes/excrement thrown at them is because they did.

How conveniently they forget how the Palin was "outed" by an Obama campaign desperate to counter the Palin narrative. The attack began almost immediately not only because the story had to be tarnished but because Palin gives better stump speeches than Obama does, so that the totally lack luster McCain suddenly had a chance at the prize. The effort to destroy her has been relentless, and what makes her more infuriating is that unless most women being raped, she fights back--more Sarah Connor than damsal in distress. Liberal women hate her for the reason that women hate other women.

Posted by: RobbyS | June 16, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin is right.
Letterman is wrong.

There is no excuse in the era of
"To Catch a Predator"
for jokes about a 34 year old man sexually involved with a 14 year old girl in a seventh inning stretch.

Further, Palin's 18 year old daughter may be an unwed mother. You'll recall, her boyfriend at the time was also 17 or 18 years old, not some older pervert.

Politics aside, Palin is right not to back down on her protection of her family and she is also right that these jokes affect and sexualize all young women to older men. Ick.

Posted by: myopinion3 | June 16, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

It was a thoughtless, crude joke about two adults based on their past history, but it wasn't as tasteless and harmful as the one the Republican Party played on the American people when they selected Sarah Palin as their vice presidential candidate.

Posted by: BettyW1 | June 16, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

The liberal agenda is a religion, as it is one of hating God, and anything that is decent and respectful. Just as Global Warming, this is a symptom of the impending heat that they feel from their over sinned nature. It increases with intensity as they mature in their religion of hate. For they are their own gods and the gods they choose to worship. They use each other and flock together for support to keep doing the evil deeds that fuel their minds and bodies. When we see them defend partial birth abortion and champion a s0-called doctor that preforms such a murdering act, we understand what we are dealing with. They love to attack anyone whom might want to turn from sin, and be saved by Jesus. They stab and Jab at Him because they feel they are strengthen by their lustful desire for material gain and power. These ones are making this world a dangerous and deadly place. May God help us all, because some people have hearts and minds and souls that require truth and light. Walk not in darkness for they are cursed. Lets pray that love will find a way to even the most hardened hearts.

Posted by: boski66 | June 16, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

For the ignoramus who was citing freedom of speech concerning Letterman's comments, where did you get your education? The first amendment freedom of speech section was written to protect "unpopular" political speech, not as some sort of protection to shield people who wish to insult or degrade others. Surprisingly, there are limits even to the first amendment as to time, place and even subject. By the way, ignorance and he/she who practices it (the ignoramus)is not an insult. it means unknowing, uninformed or misinformed and does not imply stupidity.

And as far as the "knocking" up Palin's daughter at the Yankees game remark, I would suppose that someone should have checked to find out just which daughter attended that game...........I have news for you, it wasn't Bristol, so it could only have applied to Willow....not that it matters, it would have been inappropriate no matter who the woman or what her age.

Easy to call Bristol a s. l. u. t isn't it? Had she been the daughter of a lib, no one would ever have known that she was pregnant, maybe not even her parents since libs find it so convenient to murder their "mistakes".

David Letterman is a washed up, old, angry lib.............who "knocked up" his girlfriend and got angry when a television newswoman dared mention it. He's not long for television.

Posted by: OregonStorm | June 16, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Yuck, mack7.................appeal to the middle? that's what cost the right everything this time........appealing to Democrat Lite. Being afraid to challenge Obama for fear of being called a racist. I don't give a flying fig what color he is but if you look at him rationally, he's more white and African Arab than he is black.

Letterman's a joke, and now he's a dirty joke. Go away Litter-man Letterman!

Posted by: OregonStorm | June 16, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Just read the comments posted here, and see the reason why this nation has become a morally CORRUPT nation of haters! With comments like these, who needs enemies?
No respect for women and children. PATHETIC !!!

Posted by: SeniorVet | June 16, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Just read the comments posted here, and see the reason why this nation has become a morally CORRUPT nation of haters! With comments like these, who needs enemies?
No respect for women and children. PATHETIC !!!

Posted by: SeniorVet | June 16, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

BPinOC......You just showed your stupidity the same as Sarah Palin did. David Letterman apologized because Sarah didn't even understand the joke and it was his fault that she didn't understand it. That's why he said it was a bad joke. Good apology, David.

Posted by: lakeside1 | June 17, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: The Rod Blagojevich of the Republican Party. (Note to Sarah, since she has a blind spot for humor: I am not saying that she is a crook, tho she may be, I just don't know. What I am saying is that she is an attention deprived nutjob.)

Posted by: paulchouinard | June 17, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

You have got to be kidding! A child who has nothing to do with any politics is the bunt of jokes on national television by a popular commedian? And, because Palin is upset at the abuse heaped on her child she has no sense of humor? She is to blame because her daughter got pregnat? Are all parents to blame when their children make errors? What about parents with kids who are drug adducts, drunk drivers, murderers, thieves, cheaters! Are these parents at fault too? For both Democrats and Republicans children are off limit. Its easy to make a child the bunt of your joke. They can't fight back.

Posted by: tnpcadwell | June 17, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

OK, Letterman was out of line. WAY out of line. His apology, shall we say, lacks sincerity . . . . It WASN'T OK for him to tell an offensive joke about Palin's daughter any more than it would be to tell a similar joke about Obama's daughter. Leave the families out of it!

But the shelf-life of this incident has expired. How about some real news now?? Gov. Palin has made her point--she should move on. If she is interrogated again about this by more media pot-stirrers, she should TELL THEM to grow up and move on. Outrage past a certain point becomes feigned outrage (sorry: outrage over being outraged doesn't cross the threshold). And feigned outrage won't benefit her cause, already a very wobbly one because of her own words and deeds.

Posted by: post_reader_in_wv | June 17, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

i am really disappointed in the comments in this blog, but I am not surprised. Readers of the Washington Post are no longer the well informed and rational people of the past. The readership today is primarilyuninformed, illiterate and a disgrace to honest and hard working Americans who act civily in their human
relationships, unlike those who post here
with hate bitterness.
While most of the posters here concluded
that Letterman was referring to the older
daughter, they are mistaken. Letterman
said there was a delay in the Yankees seventh inning because Arod was knocking
up the daughter. It was the 14 year old
younger daughter that accompanied the
mother to that ball game!
Unfortunately, those who backed Obama for
the presidency can not see the forest for
the trees. They will accept and excuse any
missteps that he makes and are ready to
pounce on anyone who refuse to be blind-
sided by his changes of positions,
declarations and demands. He is steadily
proving in the way he has handled our economic problems and foreign affairs that he was not ready for the job and is trying to get by with on-the-job training with a staff which is also short on experience and expertise. Then top it off with two
houses of congress that are controlled by
a group of yes men and you can see where
this country is headed. We can't get rid
of Obama for another 3 1/2 years but hopefully we can get at least one of the congressional houses in the hands of the opposition so that we have some sense of
sanity and balance. The election next year must resolve the problems associated with the dictatorial regime we have at this time.

Posted by: depoulins | June 17, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Please. Obama said "family was off limits" during the campaign in a direct response to people speaking about Bristol and her pregnancy.
bush & company ran the USA as a dicatership for 8 years.
Most people did not know there was a Willow Palin. We saw very little of her during the campaign. Letterman has apoligize twice to this idiot and that should suffice. palin says : I accept his apology: and then procides to make another statement about the incident.
Dems are NOT afraid of palin. The comments were on tv and the media picked it up and ran with it. It is not a party issue and the government is not involved. PEOPLE are making comments.

Posted by: katerinaDeligiannis | June 17, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Isn't the power of Dave Letterman's joke funny? It's given a lot of power to another joke.

Posted by: CallmeIsmael | June 18, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

It is regrettable that some personalities lend themselves to ridcule some do not...

Posted by: edmundsingleton1 | June 18, 2009 4:37 AM | Report abuse

As a woman and mother who stands against sexism in any form, I support Sarah Palin's right to defend her daughters. However, I question her credentials to speak for all woman. Her silence was deafening when the Women's Rutgers basketball team was referred to as "nappy-headed hoes". There has not been the same sense of outrage from her regarding rape of women in Darfur and other war torn areas of the world, where women have been sexually abused as a military strategy.

This speaking for women is self-serving. I am personally disgusted at the use of her oldest daughter as a spokeperson for abstinence. Let's have teenagers that are actually Not sexually active speak about how they remain that way in a sensual, sexual culture. What alternatives to being sexually active do they suggest, how does a young girl deal with pressure from a boy she really likes to be sexually active. I don't see how Bristol Palin can bring any of that to the table.

She has not been a single mother long enough to engage the realities of what she has to sacrifice as a mom for the next 18 - 25 years. Nor can she speak to the millions of young girls who live in poverty, without health care for their babies, cannot afford daycare, and have few resources to go back to school. She has the assistance of a well-off family, which puts her many steps above most teen age mothers.

Posted by: sylviaforchrist | June 18, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps I misunderstood but it looks like many of you think it is okay to mock Palins children because you do not like Palin. I don't think the argument is whether you like Palin or not. The argument is whether an influential person should make cruel, judgemental and vulger comments about a woman in a way that draws national attention to her. It does not matter whether she be 18 or 80, nor does it matter who her parents are. If the unmarried, pregnant teenage girl is a S.L.U.T then many women also fall in that category. I think women facing life as a single parent need encouragement and help. They do not need the scorn heaped on them by David Lettermans.
I agree with the writer who said all this publicity helps Letterman. What does that say about us?

Posted by: tnpcadwell | June 18, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

When Palin said that Obama commented about families being off limits she twisted his words. He did not say HIS family was off limits, but was answering a question he fielded about PALIN'S DAUGHTER: Here it is from CBS back in 2008:

From CBS News' Maria Gavrilovic:

(MONROE, MICH.) - When asked to respond to Sarah Palin’s announcement today that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, Barack Obama sternly said the story is irrelevant to the presidential campaign.

“I think peoples families are off limits and people's children are especially off limits.”

Obama addressed the press after he attended a Labor Day picnic here. Although he intended to give a statement on Hurricane Gustav, Obama was quickly asked about Bristol Palin’s pregnancy.

“My mother had me when she was 18 years old,” Obama said, adding that families should deal with these issues privately. “That shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that’s off limits.”

Obama said he was offended by comments from a McCain advisor suggesting that his campaign may have been spreading rumors about Palin on the internet.

“Our people were not involved in any way in this and the will not be. And if I ever thought that it was somebody in my campaign that was involved in something like that, they’d be fired.”

As usual, Palin's statements are always questional, and lean toward her interpretation of what's the truth.

Posted by: susta505 | June 18, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah,

How convenient of you to forget that "the family is off limits" comment from Pres. Obama came after all of the media attention started in on your daughter during the campaign..."family is off limits" was in support of your daughter...and your request that the media leave your daughter alone. And now Pres. Obama is the bad guy "the candidate who must be obeyed" (how typically disrespectful of you), in your feud of bad taste with Letterman. You are the woman who put her daughter in the limelight at such a very sensitive time in her life, just to further YOUR career, and have found a way to use your other daughter to get back into the news again. You are still Sarah "the candidate who will use anybody" and for whom I have absolutely no respect.

Posted by: uhave2bkidding | June 18, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah....I am a 60 yr old white, feminist, mom, grandmother, and activist. I work in a field that fights for womens rights every day. But I'm sorry to say that any and all negative publicity you or your family have gotten, YOU HAVE BROUGHT UPON YOURSELF. What did you expect when you paraded your under age, unwed, pregnant daughter on stage at the convention?? WHEN YOU EXPOSE YOUR FAMILY TO THE PUBLIC--- YOU LAYED THEM OUT THERE FOR ALL THE CRITICISM AND DIRT THE MEDIA CAN USE. I'm sure you weren't upset for all the right wing women you wooed with it... but you really need to learn to weight out the negative vs. the positives in future actions like that. If I were your daughter I'd be angry with you!Personally, you used extremely bad judgement when you let the young man sleep at your home or her at his. It goes against any and all PRACTICES AND BOUNDARIES OF GOOD PARENTING I HAVE EVER HEARD! IT TELLS ME THAT YOU WERE EITHER AFRAID TO SET BOUNDARIES WITH YOUR DAUGHTER, or THAT SHE ALWAYS GETS HER WAY, or you are out of touch with reality and naive beyond belief, if you didn't expect them to have sex!!!!

Posted by: mettarose49 | June 18, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

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