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Hillary Clinton's Cross to Bear: Her Own Power


It has to be Hillary Rodham Clinton's worst nightmare. After missing her big chance to become president, she becomes secretary of state -- arguably the most powerful woman in the world -- and still, she's living in her superstar husband's shadow.

One former Clinton administration official says Hillary Clinton "had every reason to be" as angered as she was this week by a Congolese student's question, which we now know was lost in translation, asking for her husband's opinion on foreign affairs. (The translator misspoke; the student actually asked for President Obama's opinion, not former president Bill Clinton's.)

(Watch the video here.)

David Rothkopf, a foreign policy expert and author who served in the Clinton administration, says the secretary's frustrated reaction -- "My husband is not the secretary of state; I am" -- was the breaking point for a woman who has been largely overshadowed throughout the first six months of President Obama's administration.

"One of the reasons why Hillary has been in the shadows is because she is powerful, not because she is weak," Rothkopf, a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told the Sleuth on Tuesday. "Because she is a force to be reckoned with."

"Imagine what the stories would be if she were overshadowing the president," he said.

Even as Clinton has been doing the tough talking to such international menaces as North Korea and Iran, playing bad cop to Obama's good cop, she has done so in relative obscurity, given her star stature. The media coverage of Clinton's tenure as secretary of state has focused more on her personality rather than on her work as international peacemaker and dealmaker, Rothkopf notes.

"Hillary gets People magazine treatment," he says. "It must be frustrating for her."

Clinton was visibly angry when a student at a town hall meeting in the Democratic Republic of Congo asked her, referring to a Chinese economic development contract with Congo, "What does Mr. Clinton think, through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton?"

"Wait, you want me to tell you what my husband thinks? My husband is not the secretary of state; I am," Clinton replied, seething. "You ask my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I'm not going to be channeling my husband."

Her husband resumed his role as international rock star last week when he escorted two American journalists who had been imprisoned in North Korea back to the United States, knocking coverage of his wife's mission to Africa off the front pages of newspapers and home pages of Web sites.

Mistranslated or not, the suggestion that Mr. Clinton's opinion mattered more than Secretary Clinton's was the final straw in what apparently has been an escalating source of frustration for her. As Rothkopf says, "It's tough being the most powerful woman in the world."

By Mary Ann Akers  |  August 11, 2009; 7:06 PM ET
 
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"One of the reasons why Hillary has been in the shadows is because she is powerful, not because she is weak," Rothkopf, a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told the Sleuth on Tuesday. "Because she is a force to be reckoned with."

Please!!! Hillary Clinton showed her true arrogant side in this event! Hillary is powerful, all right, but she doesn't use her power well. She is mean, treats people like crap, and I don't like her. I would have NEVER voted for her for president, because of her personality. She is bitter and angry ALL THE TIME. To act the way she did to that student's question is absolutely typical of her behavior. There is no need to be as bitter as she is. If Hillary thinks she's "all that", then why isn't she where she wants to be? She reminds me of Clarence Thomas...walking around with a huge chip on her shoulder.

Posted by: swatkins1 | August 12, 2009 6:56 AM | Report abuse

If she's the United States senior diplomat, she sure showed a lack of diplomacy, in a major manner. She's mean, petty and totally lacks a sense of humor or of her place in the world. I would love to have seen all the criticism had Condalezza Rice thrown such a hissy fit.

Posted by: ronjaboy | August 12, 2009 7:15 AM | Report abuse

The REAL story was about RAPE - but Akers gets in the gutter with other media and focuses on a distraction.
If I were Hillary - I'd be frustrated too - after hearing MANY horror stories from rape victims and visiting with them in their dusty huts and villages.
About 3,500 women have been RAPED by U.S.-funded "soldiers" in the Congo this year.

But NOOOOO- Akers and her ilk with writers' block prefer to go the easy route - and bash Hillary.


Posted by: angie12106 | August 12, 2009 7:41 AM | Report abuse

I've never had much respect for this woman, but I have been willing to see how she performs as our Secretary of State. As is true with her husband, most of her troubles are always self inflicted. There is NO EXCUSE for her fit of pique in Africa. We must have adults in these positions, not petulant children overwhelmed by emotions.

Much seems to be made (rather constantly) about her intellect, but I have yet to see it on display in this job. Yes, she travels, and makes speeches, and yes she answers questions (sometimes, even "diplomatically"!). But where is the leadership? Where are the important papers? Where is the series of speeches attaching specifics to something that might be called the Obama Doctrine? I have absolutely no idea what our foreign policy objectives are other than to occasionally loft up an apology to some group or other and hope for the best.

Is she guilty of that oft cited flaw in women that they can change the boyfriend's behavior "after they get the ring?" Perhaps. Obama was on record, and openly disdainful of the traditional cabinet secretary model prior to the election. After, he confirmed his view by appoointing 30+ czars and special envoys. The Post has run at least two stories in the past several months noting the "friction" between the old folks in foreign policy (Jim Jones and Hillary) and the "young crowd" of Chicago syncophants that prepare and worship at the Obama altar every day.

If she can't elbow her way to the front of the table, and make some news with leadership and a robust, new vision for American foreign policy, she'll just fade away about year 3 of this term and write another book.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | August 12, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary Clinton can't handle the pressures of Secretary of State, she can't handle the pressures of the Presidency. The main reason I didn't vote for her was because I felt she was mean and petty, especially against people who were only doing their job. She seems to have a giant chip on her shoulder -- failure to achieve her desired goals or Bill or whatever, I don't know. Glad she isn't POTUS.

Posted by: TwoEvils | August 12, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

wow- it is amazing how all of y'all miss the point of the article-

First let me tell you as one of her constituents and someone who knows many who have met and worked with her that she is a warm, funny, beloved person. The witch that you create is a product of the media's treatment of a strong women and our own personal biases.

Second, the article is about her frustration with the treatment that she has recieved. As a powerful women, she is still treated first as a women and then as a person in the political field. So we get the bad female stereotypes- if Barack loses his temper over something it is showing his strength, if she doesn't answer what turns out to be a wrong question that is frankly offensive the way it was translated, she is angry and mean. As a society we need to resolve our "mother issues". Why should someone who took an equal amount of votes in the primaries, who predicted and tried to solve the housing bubble in September 2007 (see the record), and who has generally been right on all policy (except Iraq, but Barack wasn't in the senate at the time- so don't tell me how he would have voted- they had the same voting record once he was there) should be given the "people magazine treatment?"

Posted by: NYClefty | August 12, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse

No comments about how the wife of an accused serial rapist-broderick and ward-gracen and an exploiter of women-jones and willey who has been his facilitator and fixer for decades can credibly speak with empathy towards rape victims

Posted by: philoernie | August 12, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse

Whether the question was mistranslated or not, Clinton's response was completely unacceptable. She could have and should have simply demurred by stating: "I don't know what my husband's opinion is".

As the nation's chief diplomat, she showed some outstanding undiplomatic behavior.

Posted by: spamsux1 | August 12, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Most of you people are completely ninformed and don't realize that Hillary had every right to get testy over that question. If was offensive, demeaning and sexist. Men- most of you won't understand! And as for the author of this piece, way to fuel the flames! Us women need to stick together. Instead of making the "People magazine coverage" of her worse by doing articles like this, give the woman her due by doing articles on how hard she works...the amazing job she's doing as S.O.S....the fact that she WILL become President one day. You have to take her comments to the student in context. She was in Africa to speak out against sexism and violence against the women there. Um, hellooo...of course she wanted to show them whose boss. I mean, DUH! Bunch of idiots.

Posted by: ladyesq1 | August 12, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Having women jump to Hillary's defense no matter what the issue is as reliable as having blacks jump to Obama's defense no matter what the issue.

Neither group can be counted on to exercise any logic.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | August 12, 2009 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would be President of the United States right now if the news media and all the Hillary Haters out there hadn't flogged her into defeat this past election. All one has to do is listen to her keen intellect as she discusses and explains world and domestic issues and watch how she compassionately relates to people wherever she goes to understand how powerful and respected she really is. There will always be those who adamantly oppose her. Most importantly, there are those of us who will always support her because of who she is. And, when she runs for President again, that will make all the difference in the world.

Posted by: mpwynn | August 12, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Mz.Akers conveniently closed her article on Obama's birth situation. Good thing she doesn't have to make a living as a Private Detective. She would starve to death. Obama's own grandmother bragged about how she was there when he was born (in Kenya). Was she lying too? All we want is for them to release ALL of the information as to his birth, including hospital records (which are being blocked--
they won't allow anyone to inspect their records--) Why not? With such an important issue, why won't Hawaii show a
valid original certificate of birth? I guess they like it that they can say he came from Hawaii? What about all the documents that show where HE claimed to be a citizen of another country in order to get free schooling? And I wasn't aware that the University of Hawaii allowed infa infants to attend. His mother was in Kenya before he was born.. and was there when he was born.. or was he born in Hawaii through some other method? Just show ALL the original documents. Wny are you hiding them? Must be something to all these allegations which cause you all to hide everything.

Posted by: mifun44 | August 12, 2009 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Bill and Hillary are a unique pair (I'm struggling to be civil here). Hillary is a mean and cold woman. Of that, there is no question. Probably her most arrogant, obnoxious and mean-spirited moment (or of any politician) came when she blatantly insinuated that Gen. David Petraeus was a liar, during that infamous senate hearing. She comes across, inevitably, as a fake. She does not appear genuine, ever. She is manipulative, conniving and pathologically ambitious. However, when one considers to whom she is married, what woman would be of noble, kind, sane or stable demeanor? The biggest sham currently in the U.S., other than Obamacare, the stimulous, climate change and Sen. Al Franken, is the 'rescuing' or 'saving' or 'gaining release' of the two female journalists by the gallant, brave and dashing Willie Clinton. Rush Limbaugh (I am not a fan) had it right, years ago, when he poclaimed: "Folks, these people (Bill and Hillary) are not going away." William Jefferson Clinton and Barak Obama are rock stars because they have the inclination and because the ridiculous liberal media and Hollywood made them so.

Posted by: david-mckenzie | August 12, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Hillary's reaction was completely unprofessional, regardless if the President is a publicity hound and loves the attention. If she doesn't like playing second or third banana to Obama, then she can always resign. Until then, as one of the foremost representatives of the United States, she needs to control her anger (how is she with other heads of states and their representatives?). She could have simply answered the student's question with: "I don't know what Mr Clinton's opinion is, but as for myself..."
or something to that effect to change the question to something that would have allowed her to express her views, rather than a display of bellicosity. Geez, give the student a break!

Posted by: AGoodGuy | August 12, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

Boy, the feministas sure are barking.

"Of course it's ok for the Secretary of State to be rude and snotty--her grrrl-power was questioned!

Posted by: spamsux1 | August 12, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Poor performance from the top diplomat. Diplomacy is about rising above the personal and presenting the face and policy of America, not the ego of the individual. She did not win the Democratic nomination and sure as heck did not win the presidency. If she can't rise above this frustration and check her ego, she should step aside.

Posted by: CntrvilleCitoyen | August 12, 2009 10:09 AM | Report abuse

The "...my husband's not the Secy of State, I am!" incident shows Hillary to be what she is: an insecure, over educated under achiever. She's accomplished nothing in her professional life except ride coattails (Bill & BO): wife of a President who failed in the one task he gave her and the woman who had the most securely democratic Senate seat in the country handed to her. The one time she set out on her own she could not even win her party's nomination.

Of course she over reacts: she lives with the knowledge that soon folks will get that she's a poser.

Posted by: bilcas33 | August 12, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I was annoyed last year when Hillary actively campaigned to be John McCain's vice-presidential running mate. As a liberal, I've always found the Democratic credentials of the Clinton family suspect. But her African comments, in context, were appropriate.

If Hillary walked on water, the hysterics contributing these notes would say it was because she was too snotty to swim with the fish. (Multiple references intended.)

I've seen these people close-up. I remember in the 1990s my brother-in-law's wife in purple-faced rage calling Hillary a Communist because she wouldn't bake cookies -- I don't have a clue what that was about. I guess it's a Republican thing the rest of us just don't get.

Posted by: matthewjblack | August 12, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary Clinton is misunderstood regarding her personality, her penchant for inflating the truth, and her waffling on political positions, then she has brought it upon herself. From the statement that she landed under fire at Kosovo, to her steadfast backing of Spitzer's wanting to issue drivers licenses to illegal aliens, then denying she ever took that position, indicates that she is the consumate politician, who will do, or say, anything to gain an end. Aside from these perceived flaws, as for her ablilites as a Secretary of State, this jury is still out.

Posted by: roanns | August 12, 2009 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Wow it's hard to believe everyone read the same article.

The fact is that Ms. Clinton is in a unique position being the spouse of a former president and also holding one of the most powerful and important offices in the world

I do not believe she would have been a good President.

She has no one to blame but herself for her loss in the primaries to Obama. Her campaign organization was dysfunctional, which must be considered as a reflection on her management style and personality.

It is humorous to see the good old "news media" being brought out as the agent of her demise, just as Palinites blame the media for the spectacular downfall of the former Alaskan Gov.

People seem to forget that in both cases the media was giving each candidate tons of exposure (most of it favorable) at the start of their campaigns (remember Hilary was practically being conceded the nomination before one vote was cast and Palin was being hailed as the saviour of the GOP and the McCain ticket after her legendary hockey mom acceptance speech.

In both cases these women brought about thier own downfalls, Hilary by bad management and Palin by revealing the extent of her ignorance and lack of gravitas.

That said, women are judged differently when they lose their tempers, as another writer noted. It is not fair but it is probably unlikely to change.

I hope we have a woman president soon. I think the US is ready for one. I just hope that she does not turn out to be named Hillary or Sarah

Posted by: OlSloaner | August 12, 2009 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The one thing that gets in Hilary's way more than any other is her own ego and mean spirited nature. Between her and Biden, Obama is neatly teamed with a couple of true gasbags.

Posted by: hill_marty | August 12, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Here is another way to look at this Hillary "hear me roar" situation: Can any reader of this post remember any time when Condi Rice acted in a similar manner during her 4 years as Sec of State? If the dictionary shows a picture of a woman with dignity while holding the post as the most powerful woman in the United States, (before Pelosi), that picture would be Condi Rice.
She created the perfect mold for any woman who followed in her footsteps, but now with Hillary and her antics, the mold has been chipped.
Even Madeline Albright would not have acted inappropriately in a similar situation. Being the most powerful FEMALE diplomat does carry the heavy weight of being able to perform at all times with dignity as well as brain-in-gear. Hillary just reminds us that we are lucky she is neither president or vice president. And I doubt she will ever become either no matter how much her 2008 supporters want her to run again.

Posted by: dbu2709399aolcom | August 12, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Secretary Hillary Clinton is not supposed to be a star. She's a diplomat and diplomats shine their own diplomatic light.
She is supposed to be low key and that's just the way she has been handling herself.
Continued success Madame Secretary.
Continued success.

Regards
dePaul Consiglio

Posted by: depaulconsiglio | August 12, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

sHow gratifying to know that Mary Ann Akers has taken over so effortlessly, and has so directly benefitted, from her lessons at the D. Millbank and Chriss Cilizza School of Clown-Journalism!

In what way was Hillary Clinton's response to a nonsensical question (probably planted) unreasonable? It was, in fact, quite appropriate and eloquent and I can't see any other high-profile politician delivering with her precision such a quick-witted response under the circumstance!

A powerful woman is "frustrated" and "angry". When a powerful man like Mr. Bush frustratingly employed midfinger to valiantly express himself to journalists; when Mr. Obama routinely brushes off with obvious anger reporters' questions and angrily dismisses a young female journalist's valid questions, brushing her aside and telling her "sweetie, not now."; when Joe Biden says to the Russians "Jesus Christ, you need us man, come up to the bar and pay your dues!"; and remember Kruschev's beating his shoe over the table in uncontrollable "anger" and "frustration".

But all of the above are powerful *men*.

And incidentally, none of these gentlemen had ever expressed the remotest interest in visiting a Congolese hospital and viewing the holocaust of rape and crippling of girls and women from the age of 2 months to 85! Hillary spent real time visiting and talking to these victims crowding African hospitals. Still, according to U.S. policy, wholesale rape used as a 'war weapon' does not warrant validation as a "War Crime". Why is this relevant? Because Mary Ann refuses to be a journalist and resorts to the clown-journalist standards of her witless, adolescent colleagues Dana Milbank and Chris Cilizza. A powerful woman is 'fair game'. Hit her with "frustration" for whatever reason. But labelling Obama or Biden as "frustrated" or "angry"? Heck, no, they're just "self-confident" "strong" and "take no guff"! They're expected to be aggressive. It's part of their cultural DNA. They're entitled.

Congrats Mary Ann for your new duties as heir and assign of the Cilizza-Milbank brand of mickey-mouse humor and misogynist bias. Guess you must have been quite "frustrated" sweetie that you couldn't report on anything newsworthy. But you could have persisted in your quest for newsworthiness. But then we'd have to assume that the Fourth Estate comprises a journalistic ethos that has all but disappeared from our corporate celebrity-media...

Posted by: MSakel | August 12, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The iceburg that struck and sank the Titanic was a powerful force to be reckoned with, too. I'm just extremely thankful she never got to be president.

Posted by: ripvanwinkleincollege | August 12, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

If Hillary is standing in Bill's shadow, it's purely by choice. I would have changed my name back to Hillary Rodham if I were her. She chose to stay married to that love machine. She's a groupie with status and legal rights. She's just as hypnotized by Bill's shine as everyone else is. Staying married to Bill is enough to make any woman bitter, but her reaction on foreign soil was humiliating for the US. Get some class, Hillary.

Posted by: forgetthis | August 12, 2009 12:21 PM | Report abuse

If she decides to run for POTUS again you can bet you will see that film clip ad nauseum. Too bad she can't seem to show that warm, generous nature in public. She seems to keep it as well hidden as her butt.

Posted by: ronjaboy | August 12, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is supposed to be our chief DIPLOMAT!

If she can't take a question from a STUDENT and politely turn it to her advantage, what does this say abt her diplomatic skills?

Can she be trusted to act properly with world leaders?

What an utter embarrassment to the country!

Posted by: bigbob71 | August 12, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton should be embarassed by her response to the question. Thank goodness she's not the president.....bad enough she holds the Sec of State title. A proper response from someone at her level would something like "I don't know his position on that topic, but I can tell you the position of the current administration..", not to fly off the handle. I think Obama made a grave error in his appointment.

Posted by: TPS1 | August 12, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton just showed once again that she is the anti-Christ. Her name is Mrs. Bill Clinton and she should get used to it. She was a rediculous choice for Secretary of State because she has no foreign policy experience (outside of landing 'under fire' in Bosnia). Vile, evil, mean, ungracious and almost as ugly (inside and out) as Nancy Pelosi. For all Mrs. Clinton's supposed "intellect", she couldn't pass the Washington Bar. Carpetbagger, wannabe, hanger-on with no real accomplishments of her own. Typical feminist.

Posted by: oldno7 | August 12, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Secretary Clinton had every right to be angry as the question was put to her. It was very insulting...one of the problems when dealing with other nations where English, as we know it, is not the English spoken. I am pleased that the article said that President Clinton escorted the two women home from North Korea as he had absolutely nothing to do with negotiating their release. Thank you for that accuracy. In fact, he wasn't going to go unless their release was a sure thing. Hardly a man who was in the midst of negotiating their release. I'm grateful that he went, but let's not give him any more credit than he is due.

Posted by: murzek1 | August 12, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

It must be tought to be the most powerful woman in the world and not have the graciousness and personal tact to go with the job. Not that any of her predecessors were any better [Powell wasn't too bad].

But evolution requires a higher human life form to act with ease in public, not b###h about the unfairness of it all. Top quality people certainly don't rag at students, even their own!

So here's to human development in Africa. And at Foggy Bottom.

Thanks much. HLB

Posted by: HLBeckPE | August 12, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

In the words of the bard, William Shakespere, "Me thinks the Lady doth protest too much." would seem to be fitting to Madame Secretary's response to an African student.

Posted by: biteoh | August 12, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

I was not a Hillary Clinton fan but I am glad she responded to the question asked. It is time for the press, tv and everyone else involved to show her some respect. It was her husband who LIED to the her and the WHOLE WORLD about his affair. What does it take to stop putting him on a pedestal? Other Senators were involed in affairs outside of their marriage and they are made to resign. Here a man the head of the United States having an affair and he gets a slap in the wrist. Its time to put him in a room and close the door. As for Hillary, Obama does not want her to succeed
she maybe his competition for 2012. He has his VP and others handling the important foreign affairs.

Posted by: mollysugar | August 12, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

As a kind REMINDER: the question was mis-translated. The student asked about President Obama's thoughts on the matter. Still a little odd, but not unreasonable.

Clearly she was stressed. A trip like that must be exhausting. I do kinda think she freaked out a bit though.

Posted by: chunche | August 12, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Whoa there MSakel!
Clearly you are Clintonista and that may be your cross to bear, but you are letting your love of Hill get in teh way of any clear thinking.
What Ms. Akers did was to report an event that actually happened along with reporting the reactions to and and comments on that event.
This is journalism.
You no doubt would have preferred that Ms Akers charcaterize the Sec of State's response as "eloquent" and "quick-witted". I tend to agree with those who opined that the USA's cheif diplomat should be able to handle a student's question with a bit more aplomb,

No matter, Ms Akers does not deserve to be compared with her colleagues who made a tasteless joke in attempt to deliver a bit of satiric political theater.

Apparently you are still steamed over your idol's defeat in the Democratic primaries, one that she brought on herself despite her huge early lead and significant advantages in visibility and polical connections.
Get over it.

Posted by: OlSloaner | August 12, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What I find is a woman who was at the end of her rope. Think of the strides we've made in this country!
The first house we bought my income was not even considered because I could get pregnant. When we sold same house one of the first deals we made fell through because he was a single father and didn't want to live with anyone. He was denied because he had only one income!
Now go back about 5 centuries and you maybe can figure out what she was looking at. Hilary, like myself was one of the forefronters of the women's movement. We have one foot in today and one in the way it was! It wasn't pretty for us[Life on Mars was pretty accurate], but it is awful for those women. It makes what we were talking about seem almost petulant.
Then you talk about Hilary's reaction. I would imagine she is a good judge of character. I worked with some of them from abroad. Trust me those smarmy little devils meant it. Hilary realized it was done purposefully and[probably still being in culture shock]reacted.
Why everyone predicates what they did as being on the same level as us is distressing. I'm sure Obama gets it on some level as he spent some time abroad.
These men do not care how they diss women, overtly or on the sly, they suffer from a rapist mentality.

Posted by: skybride56 | August 12, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm quite amazed to see this outcry upon Ms Clinton's reaction to a student's question, rather than some well earned coverage of the work she is doing in Africa concerning the abominable circumstances of women and innocent children. This is where we need to spotlight our concerns, not the petty words exchanged. What can be done to alleviate the heartbreaking happenings in Africa. And bless Hillary for investigating this for us.

Posted by: lynneknu | August 13, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't help but notice that none of these posters gagging with revulsion over Hillary Clinton's lack of diplomacy ever took offense at John Bolton's lack of dipomacy when he was GWB's "recess appointment" ambassador to the United Nations. Either both are just pissy people, or neither is. Which is it?

Posted by: matthewjblack | August 13, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't help but notice that none of these posters gagging with revulsion over Hillary Clinton's lack of diplomacy ever took offense at John Bolton's lack of diplomacy when he was GWB's "recess appointment" ambassador to the United Nations. Either both are just pissy people, or neither is. Which is it?

Posted by: matthewjblack | August 13, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I have to totally agree with lynneknu. Hilliary is extremely smart and is out there in MAJOR DANGERLAND trying to help women and children and bring this situation out for the world to know much more about. What is happening in the Congo and other areas of Africa is dispicable. She flew 21,000 miles in 7 days to 7 countries, not even being able to take her administration plane. She had to be brought in by the military to some of these very dangerous areas. I haven't seen any dudes doing that, republican or democrat, nor have I ever seen Condi Rice do anything like that. Condi believed in Bush (AAUUGGHH) and we saw where that got her. At least Hilliary believes in HERSELF and is doing missions to help the world instead of just lipsinking(sp)the words of her president as Condi did. Give her a break, we saw the real Hilliary when she ran for president and she did remarkably, remarkably wellas she is now if we could ever learn what she is doing on a daily basis. She just happened to have run for President when someone else came along that only once in many blue moons could have outshone her, and, by tahe way, he picked her for the second most important job in the world other than his own.

Posted by: ncarvill1 | August 13, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

And a little known event, here in the city of Philadelphia the first African American and first woman to proctor the historic Girard College, pres. Autumn Adkins.

Posted by: edtroyhampton | August 13, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Imagine being asked:

"What does your husband Bill Clinton thinks and what does foot ball player Mr. Mutabo think through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton"?

This was clearly meant to be insulting to a foreign dignitary who's dishing out $17 million of her country's money to help his country--one that uses rapes on girl babies and grandmothers as mass weapons of war! The fact that the young guy is the product of a Congolese culture that treats women on a level below that of cattle is no excuse. Wasn't he supposed to be an educated chap; he surely had asked a good economics question on Chinese contracts with the Congo that showed he was educated somehow. So his ultra-sexist message to Hillary Clinton, a foreign dignitary giving money to his country was intended to be insulting to her as a woman! No doubt about this. The LEDE blog had the details on the story from the official translator. This abominably disrespectful and insulting student knew exactly what his target was. Except that he picked the wrong target here.

Let's hope the young insolent 'student' got his Teaching Moment, at last.

Hillary's response was curt and most appropriate. He cannot treat women as non-entities. His fellow countrymen, hopefully, will also be conveyed this message soon! The gender holocaust in the Congo must stop now and respect toward women is mandatory--unless they want their society to further disintegrate.

My advice to this studnet is to visit some of the hospitals where the victims lie and change the bedpans for a year from those severely crippled through attitudes fostered by their 'educated' classes. Shame!

Bravo, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton!

Posted by: MSakel | August 15, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

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