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United appears on the brink of adding another Brazilian attacker:

Helbert Frederico Carreiro da Silva.

Better known as: Fred. (No, not the Brazilian Fred who has starred at Lyon in France and for Brazil's national team).

This Fred is a 27-year-old attacking midfielder and forward for Melbourne Victory, which just won the Australian league championship. He had four goals and nine assists in 20 appearances and was widely regarded as one of the finest players in the league. He began his pro career in Brazil with America-MG and then moved to Guarani.

United officials aren't saying anything, but word is starting to get around MLS that this is the guy United has been targeting and preparing to sign. Looks as if he's been playing forward and attacking midfield for Melbourne, but perhaps DCU is planning to use him as an attacking flank player.

IF IF IF this deal is finalized, perhaps United should change its colors to Brazilian blue and yellow. They're already got striker Luciano Emilio and they're looking at forward Welton Silva.

By Steve Goff  |  March 6, 2007; 12:12 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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Finally MLS is doing serious scouting in Brazil/of Brazilians. I have never understood why there weren't more Brazilians in the league. There are Brazilians playing EVERYWHERE except in the US.

Posted by: Sharp | March 6, 2007 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Gee, that name doesn't sound a lot like "Tony Sanneh."

Posted by: Arrrlington | March 6, 2007 12:55 PM | Report abuse

heard a rumor that Kily Gonzalez is in talks with DC is there any true on that?

Posted by: koolcaio | March 6, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Fred.

Not Tony Sanneh.

Not Kily Gonzalez.

Stop reading the Internet. Oh, this is the Internet too? Never mind.

Posted by: Goff | March 6, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Sharp, there's always been a handful of Brazilians around, but the meager salaries of MLS have kept them away.


Steve, three Brazilians and you want to change colors? There were three Argies most of last year, and there's always a Bolivian or two around...... ;)

Posted by: Kim | March 6, 2007 1:05 PM | Report abuse

We will be unstopable if we get this guy.

Posted by: United4Eva | March 6, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Maybe they can fly the flag of CONMEBOL instead.

Posted by: Goff | March 6, 2007 1:06 PM | Report abuse

How would you compare the level of play between MLS and the Australian League? Better, Same, Worse? Thanks

Posted by: United4Eva | March 6, 2007 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Peru U17 Nats beat Brazil this weekend. We need a Peruvian in DC!

Posted by: Mifflin | March 6, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Are they still looking for some defensive help?

Posted by: Chico | March 6, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

If all these guys work out it sure will be a big influx of foreign talent. Time to review the roster slot situation:

Considered "Domestic":
- Jaime (green card)
- Dyachenko (Not a citizen...must have some variant of a green card?...or is he a YI?)

YI (max 3):
- Erpen (but for how much longer?)
- Casal (if signed)

SI (max 4):
- Gomez
- Emilio
- Fred (if signed)
- Silva (if signed)

Posted by: Talion | March 6, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I've seen Fred on the A-League highlights show that FSC seemingly ran every 2 hours. From the highlights, he appears to have solid speed and ball skills, and would definitely be a major upgrade for United's flanks.

Posted by: Kenobi | March 6, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Talion-

I think Kpene is also a YI and this is Erpen's last year as a YI (ie if we sign Fred and Welton one of the five leaves next year)

Posted by: bluemeanies | March 6, 2007 1:30 PM | Report abuse

He's quite a good player from a league that is comparable to MLS. The A League looks pretty rough from the footie review show on FSC. It's a physical league...he should be ready for the NE Revolting, at least.

Posted by: What Fred Said | March 6, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

well there aren't that many Brazilians in the EPL

I haven't seen this guy yet (have the final on tape), but wasn't Diego Walsh a standout in the A-League?

I would've never guessed there would be another Brazilian Fred.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 6, 2007 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else see the A league final on FSC? Melbourne Victory beat Adelade United 6-1. In the finals? At least we're getting a guy from the winning team. All this attacking is great, but I have to echo some who are asking about defensive depth.

Steve, any rumors in that department?

Posted by: Dan | March 6, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

if they start him on the right flank I dub him 'Right said fred' and every time he does a samba move we have to shout 'I'm too sexy for... (insert player name here)'

Posted by: DCAustinite | March 6, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I heard Puerto Rico just signed a talented young defender.

Posted by: jgildea8 | March 6, 2007 1:41 PM | Report abuse

correction 6-0. one of their players scored 5 goals. not Fred though :(

Posted by: Dan | March 6, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

highlights of a Fred assist begin around the 1:52 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZHbW40tVQ

Posted by: Dan | March 6, 2007 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Fred had at least 4 assists in that Aussie Final.

It is Samba time at RFK.

Posted by: Eric Z | March 6, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"correction 6-0. one of their players scored 5 goals. not Fred though :("

Well, it's not like Archie Thompson did all that work himself. Someone has to set the table.

Posted by: 6-0 | March 6, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I hear this Fred is a pretty good player. Too bad they can't get Archie "5 goals in a cup final" Thompson too!

Posted by: Nic | March 6, 2007 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The suggested signing of Fred seems entirely logical. True, as a few have suggested, Erpen will be an SI in the 2008 season. If we sign Fred and Welton, then we'd have one too many SI's in 2008. But, but but Goff has mentioned that DC still hasn't signed Gomez beyond this next season...as much as I love Gomito, maybe he's looking for a change and will move on after this season. With Fred being a seasoned, in-prime attacking mid, we may have found a suitable replacement in case of Gomito's departure after this season.

Posted by: Dave | March 6, 2007 1:55 PM | Report abuse

And there's this bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaoUgLrGYfk

I think Fred is the shorter of the two, #8?

Posted by: Dan | March 6, 2007 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Steve - what do you know about Michael Lewis' story that the league has told RBNY they can't use charter flights for matches?

Posted by: Brian | March 6, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for more Brazlians if they score like Emilio--3 in two games!!

Plus our team beverage could easily be the Caipirinha and we'd finally get a good shirt sponsor "CACHACA"---sugar cane liqour. Sweet:

1 lime

2 ounces of cachaça

Sugar to taste

Ice cubes

3 Brazilians an MLS Cup, la Superliga and a CONCACAF Championship!!!

Posted by: delantero | March 6, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Not surprised. MLS wants to keep a competitive balance. However, what happens when Beckham arrives? Will the Galaxy be flying Southwest to Salt Lake City? I think not.

Posted by: Goff | March 6, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Not only that, but Gomez and Moreno are not going to be playing for too much longer in any case. Fred is only 27. Maybe we're trying to lock him down now so that he can be the long-term successor for one of the two?

Who are we likely to shop around for Robbie Rogers? Simms? Walker? Both? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that we will not win him in the "So, do you like New York or LA more?" lottery.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | March 6, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Dan,
Fred is indeed number 8.

Posted by: jgildea8 | March 6, 2007 2:01 PM | Report abuse

blue: Good points about Kpene and Erpen, but let's not worry about 2008 just yet, especially when Gomez isn't even signed past '07.

Posted by: Talion | March 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Actually I caught a good portion of the cup final on FSC when they still had the free internet stream up and I remember vividly how impressed I was with Fred more then any other player on the pitch. Quality signing if it's true.

Posted by: DjB | March 6, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Well, if by some chance DC is able to get Rogers, and if this Brazilian and Welton get signed, than I think Walker is certainly disposable. I like what he was able to do when he was on his game, but the lack of consistency was disturbing. Maybe a package deal of Walker and Simms, although I would really hate to see him go. He is worth a lot I would think. Who wouldn't want a steady D-mid with (brief)nats experience? Plus, we got Carroll the younger waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Voyager | March 6, 2007 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Walker and Simms for Rogers?
I would make that trade purly for the positioning shift.
I do like Simms though.

Posted by: jgildea8 | March 6, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Bora Brasiiiiiiiiiiil!!!

Posted by: Nick | March 6, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

And this would help our leaky defense how? I guess we're just planning to outscore everyone 5-4 this year.

Posted by: Glenn | March 6, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The A-League is a little below MLS in terms of overall quality, but it is close enough that I'm sure one of the league's top players will still be pretty darn good in the U.S.

Posted by: Max | March 6, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Herr Goffer:

How far along are these negotiations in relation to the now-defunct Ruy effort?

Posted by: Logan Circle | March 6, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

From what I'm told, this one is looking very, very, very good, but still not official.

Posted by: Goff | March 6, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Leaky defense? We're saying this why? Because of one (1) game where they gave up two goals, one on a penalty and the other with the backup keeper in? The defense was 3rd in the league last year and all 6 starters (including Perkins and the d-mids) are back. They need a role player to replace Prideaux, but the defense was more than good enough to win a championship last year if the offense had played any better down the stretch.

Posted by: Talion | March 6, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

I say leaky defense because it is scary how many bad mistakes Erpen makes every game. And Namoff as much as I love him isn't always very sharp either. If any of the 3 starters gets hurt or suspended we've got no one to fill in. Without Perkins' heroics all of the bad defensive plays would have led to a ton of goals against. In my opinion we were extremely lucky to get away with bad defending last season. A little competition among the defenders would be a good thing and might make Erpen play smarter since his 90 minutes slot would not be assured. We got lucky that Olimpia was so bad they couldn't finish any of the chances they were gifted. Better opposition won't be so kind.

Posted by: Glenn | March 6, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Fearington will be a good option in the back and on the wings for DC.

Posted by: jgildea8 | March 6, 2007 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Glenn, you're right that against better opposition...such as Chivas...our defense won't be the best. But DC doesn't play in the EPL or even in the Mexican Primera, and with our budget it's not reasonable to hold them to that kind of elevated standard. By MLS standards it is a strong defense and as the offense's ability to hold the ball improves it will look even better.

Posted by: Talion | March 6, 2007 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I watched the A-league final, and Fred was really good.

I could see him on the flank and also spelling Gomez or Moreno at times. Perhaps also insurance if Gomez leaves.

Basically, he would be replacing Adu's tactical place on the team.

Posted by: cheat | March 6, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The question on defense is not leakiness per se but depth. I think the defense is pretty good, but I also think that we need decent options in case someone gets hurt. Folks shouldn't take this idea as criticism of the defense.

Don't you think we're a bit spoiled in a way. We have such a great team that our expectations for every player are quite high. Just think about it. The rest of MLS can only imagine having to prepare to play Chivas. We have to make it happen.

If there is a team in MLS that can win the CCC its United. No offense to Houston.

Posted by: Dan | March 6, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Dan makes a good point, United are already a good team and more depth would give us some wiggle room.

But I don't think we are spoiled and I see nothing wrong with wanting the best for and from our team.

I won't stop worrying about new players and weaknesses on our side till we win the next five MLS cups and at least one club world cup. Perhaps that's unreasonable, but a kid's gotta dream.

Posted by: bribri | March 6, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

this is exactly the kind of guys we should be getting at this point in time for the league, good find! i hope it goes through!

Posted by: pat | March 6, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

DC United is the 2 of every thing club.

Two Jamils
Two Argentines
Two Silvas
Two Brazilians
Two Carols

Posted by: 2fer | March 6, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

A-League is a bit like MLS in 1996. That said, they have gotten some pretty good players and this guy was one of them.

The defending and goalkeeping in A-League is laughable but it is improving.

Posted by: A-League | March 6, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

A-League had 50,000-plus for their Grand Final. Pretty impressive...

Posted by: Juan-John | March 6, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Archie Thompson scored 5 goals?

Big whoop. He scored 13 goals in a WC qualifier in Australia's narrow 33-0 over America Samoa prior to Japorea.

Posted by: Big Chop | March 6, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

This from my friend that follows Melbourne:

Very good player for Melbourne. High work rate, great passing and certainly an attacking style of midfielder. Played through the centre for Melbourne but given his ability could go wide. Only concern is that he may not have electric pace to get around the full backs if he is out there.

Posted by: RB | March 6, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Here is a suggestion for our Designated Player slot. Why don't we go after Roberto Carlos? It seems that his days at Real madrid are done. He hasn't played in awhile due to injury which would make fresh. He would be the perfect fit for us on our back line, plus I am sure he still has a lot left in the tank. Is this too much to ask? Could MLS/DC United pull it off? I think it would make perfect sense for the team.

Posted by: United4Eva | March 6, 2007 6:07 PM | Report abuse

DC United doesn't need or want older, former superstars like Roberto Carlos, or Zidane or Beckham. Don't need 'em, don't want 'em, don't pay em.

Posted by: delantero | March 6, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

He would address a major need, a quality left back which DC lacks. I would pay him the money, because I am not cheap unlike the rest of MLS!!! Dish out the dough, and they will come.

Posted by: United4Eva | March 6, 2007 6:52 PM | Report abuse

My first reaction to reading this post was wetting my pants and saying, "Oh Sh*t," although I did not in fact "sh*t." That is as far as my emotions have allowed me to go. It will be a while for me to fully comprehend the potential of having Melbourne's Fred on DCU.

Posted by: sitruc | March 6, 2007 7:12 PM | Report abuse

It is a good thing they aren't signing Lyon's Fred after his cheap shot in the Roma game today.

Posted by: twinkletoes | March 6, 2007 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Juan-John

57,000+ at RFK in 1997 for MLS Cup Final. It's the same thing. 1997= MLS's second year. 2007= A-Leagues secon'd year.

Posted by: Hey | March 6, 2007 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Great player, skillfull , has a great work rate, can score, and has a great personallity, good bloke.

Please don't leave us Fred!

Posted by: John | March 7, 2007 2:14 AM | Report abuse

"Basically, he would be replacing Adu's tactical place on the team."

Selling t-shirts???

Posted by: Anonymous | March 7, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

any updates on this story yet?

Posted by: pat | March 8, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Does Fred speak English? He probably picked up some in Australia. If not, he can just speak Portuguese to Emilio, who translate to German for Soen, who can translate to English for most of the guys, who can then translate to Spanish for the remaining few.

Posted by: Jeff | March 8, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

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