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DCU-Chivas, Part II

Please use this thread to comment on the match while it is unfolding. I'll try to contribute when I'm not writing.

I'll then create a new forum after the match or tomorrow morning. And in case you haven't seen the notices at washingtonpost.com, I'll be doing a live online chat at 1 p.m. Wednesday: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/03/29/DI2007032901429.html

By Steve Goff  |  April 3, 2007; 8:12 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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I'm pumped for the game.

Steve this blog is awesome. I think i'm going to get a "Goff" United jersey. Also how is there not a Steve Goff page on Wikipedia? Somebody has got to get on that.

Posted by: pw | April 3, 2007 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Im getting puumped up guys. I have to listen to it over the internet so you guys with FSC have to keep me updated!

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Vamos, Vamos United! Esta noche, tenemos que ganaaaaaar!!

Posted by: CY | April 3, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

La Barra Brava
La Barra Puta

Los que no sal-tan
Son hijos de puta!

(special thanks to barra-brava.com for those lyrics, me being a gringo i had no idea how to spell that stuff)

none the less.. VAMOS UNITED!

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

umm, yeah: some of those barra-brava lyrics aren't so lyrical in translation. all the same, let's go UNITED!! fingers crossed and eyes alternately closed and open, praying for a strong showing...

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 9:27 PM | Report abuse

I for one am enormously proud of DC United. For us to go into Guadalajara and expect to compete against perhaps the most storied Mexican franchise is really quite remarkable.

Posted by: Diego R. | April 3, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Where can I listen online?.... the link isnt working on the united webpage

Posted by: Tim | April 3, 2007 9:42 PM | Report abuse

it should be working now tim.
myne is

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

anyone know is fred started? sounds like he didnt

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

yea it is now... it was a little touch and go there for a second

Posted by: Tim | April 3, 2007 9:46 PM | Report abuse

No Fred. Simms seems to be playing wide right. We've been controlling the ball pretty well. Ref has been on our side so far.

Posted by: Glenn | April 3, 2007 9:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm listening to Tony Limarzi right now online, and i'm looking forward to hear him on 1160 when the MLS season starts.

Posted by: Tom in Gaithersburg | April 3, 2007 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear lord I wish I had FSC. The dcunited.com stream is horrid quality.

Posted by: Colm | April 3, 2007 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Here's the 'probable' starting line up, according to Chivas' web site.

CHIVAS

23.- L. Michel
2.- D. Martínez
3.- F. J. Rodríguez
4.- H. Reynoso
19.- J. Magallón
11.- R. Morales
20.- E. Mejía
7.- G. Pineda
1.- A. Bautista
21.- S. Santana
10.- A. Medina
DC UNITED

1.- Perkins
5.- Erpen
26.- Namoff
32.- Boswell
14.- Olsen
16.- B. Carroll
19.- Simms
17.- Gros
10.- Gómez
11.- Emilio
99.- Moreno
3 de abril del 2007

Posted by: Andy in Annapolis | April 3, 2007 9:56 PM | Report abuse

seems like we are dominating the play right now.. maybe its just my bias..

and yes.. terrible quality.. but announcer guy is not that bad

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 9:57 PM | Report abuse

TROY PERKINS!

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Kenny. Commentator is good. Great save by Perkins! PORTERO!

Posted by: Andy in Annapolis | April 3, 2007 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Fred is in! Gros got hurt. Hope he's ok.

Posted by: Andy in Annapolis | April 3, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I hate to lose Gros.. even if Fred is coming in.

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Keep the comments coming. Thanks.

Posted by: John | April 3, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Fred's not in. Dyachenko is.

Posted by: Colm | April 3, 2007 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Im going on what the announcer said. sorry colm.

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

I've enjoyed the commentator (Tony Limarzi) for a few years now. I won't hear him as often this year, the deli I go to has Direct TV and FSC!.

*Josh was just taken out*

Posted by: Tom in Gaithersburg | April 3, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

did gros have his wrist taped?

Posted by: Tim | April 3, 2007 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Yellow card to Chivas outside our box.

Posted by: Andy in Annapolis | April 3, 2007 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see what happened to Gros?

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

What a goal!

Posted by: SLB | April 3, 2007 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Still 0-0 in the 35th minute.

Posted by: Andy in Annapolis | April 3, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL!!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | April 3, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Goal on a bicycle by Moreno!!!! 1-0 DC United!

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

JAIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: T. Henry | April 3, 2007 10:12 PM | Report abuse

MORENO!!!! Boy is that keeper an idiot or what?

Posted by: Glenn | April 3, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: DCUNITED FAN | April 3, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Golazo from Moreno. That's our capitan!

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Curse this audio feed for not showing me what my friend Max assures me was an incredible goal.

Posted by: Colm | April 3, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

DC United made a pretty good move picking up Emilio.

Posted by: Tom in Gaithersburg | April 3, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

the real Jaime is back!

Posted by: jeremy | April 3, 2007 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko isn't in either. DeRoux replaced Gros. Looked like a groin injury.

Posted by: G-Dub | April 3, 2007 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh my G... thanks for the updates. Please keep them coming!

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 10:16 PM | Report abuse

my comments arent working any more.. test

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 10:17 PM | Report abuse

damn. Chivas equalizes.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Crap, of course Erpen had a breakdown

Posted by: DCUNITED fan | April 3, 2007 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Bautista scores on a long ball. Boswell apparently lost him, according to the internet commentator. 1-1.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Erpen lost his mark and Boswell started moving over to cover Erpen's man.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:21 PM | Report abuse

halftime. 1-1.

Posted by: andy in annap. | April 3, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

erpen is the worst defender in the history of dc united.

i wish stokes was back there

all and all.. 1 - 1 is solid.. 1 - 0 would be better.. but its a definite possiblity..

VAMOS UNITED

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 10:24 PM | Report abuse

by the way, deroux came on for the injured gros.

and we look good!!

Posted by: jerad | April 3, 2007 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Disappointing we let the lead slip, but much better than the last leg so far from DC. And the refs have been impartial so far. Who would have thought that!

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 10:29 PM | Report abuse

It should be interesting to see (or read!) what adjustments the teams make at half-time. It sounds as though DC is playing well... maybe Soehn will talk his defenders into giving better coverage in the second half. Our midfield and attackers seem to be doing well

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

We controlled the mid-field in the first half but as usual, back line looking shakey. Erpen should be called the Heart Attack Kid.

Second half should see the arrival of Fred. Let's hope the altitude does not get to the Black and Red.

Posted by: DCU Fan | April 3, 2007 10:32 PM | Report abuse

I thought we were looking tired at the end of the half. Gomez has gone very quiet. Other than the goal Moreno has not seemed to do a whole lot.

Let's see if we can hit them on the counter. Fred's fresh legs may be good for that. de Roux was an interesting choice in the first half for Gros.

Posted by: Glenn | April 3, 2007 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's better than nothing, but the audio feed on dcunited.com is pretty poor.

Posted by: noptov52 | April 3, 2007 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Our defense is going to derail the season at the rate things are going.

Posted by: G-Dub | April 3, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

NO!!! Perkins dropped a wet ball. Chivas 2 - DC 1.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 3, 2007 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Bloody Hell!

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Ball slips through Perkins hands and into the goal. Let's hope he can quickly recover from it.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Has Emilio been playing? haven't heard his name mentioned... he should be in mid-season form though, right? should be an interesting 2nd half

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 10:48 PM | Report abuse

We've looked beat this half, but c'mon perkins. You can't let that happen!

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 10:49 PM | Report abuse

man, I thought that was the equalizer! These refs are totally on our side.

Posted by: Glenn | April 3, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Emilio has been playing, he's been kinda silent since Jaime's goal. From what I'm hearing this doesn't sound good.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Deroux looks good

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 10:51 PM | Report abuse

deroux's name has been called way too much for a sub... im surprised.. apparantly that cross in to gomez was nice

maybe just another great united player forming

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

They should have played fred from the begining. so far game is better than last time. we need fred, sooon.

Posted by: yo its me | April 3, 2007 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I disagree. Fred coming in as a second half sub can give DC some spark (hopefully). We NEED an equalizer.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:54 PM | Report abuse

maybe Fred's arrival will spark Emilio... and Christian Gomez?!

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 10:56 PM | Report abuse

who do you think should be subbed out for fred?

and moreno for walker? is that going to happen to add that speed up top?

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 10:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Simms, I've heard Fred can play out wide too.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Comcast sportsnet just showed the three goals. Moreno's bike kick was great, but Perkins' error sucked.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 10:58 PM | Report abuse

i agree. fred comes in for simms. deroux seems to me making too much noise to sub him out.

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

guess i was wrong

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Here comes Fred!

Posted by: Kyle | April 3, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

whatever it takes to strengthen our midfield with strong passing and ball control. we need attackers with good finish, although Moreno probably won't last the half. could be Walker. a strong midfield and speed on the flanks and up front could put Chivas on their back heel and take pressure off our defenders...

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Fred in for deRoux?

Posted by: Anonymous | April 3, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

fred is officially in the game, now. 67th minute. he's playing centrally. I think the commentator said Deroux went out. Anyone know?

Posted by: andy in annap. | April 3, 2007 11:01 PM | Report abuse

deroux comes out for fred!?! That doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless deroux can't handle the altitude.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

From what I'm listening to on the audio feed, I don't understand why DeRoux was subbed out, he seemed to be creating chances.

Posted by: noptov52 | April 3, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Why Deroux for Fred, he had fresh legs!
makes no sense!

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Jaime creates a great chance, but Chivas blasts it out.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Olsen moves out wide leaving Carroll the lone DM. Fred moves centrally.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:03 PM | Report abuse

what happens if its a tie? Golden Goal? Penalties? or do away goals count? Come on DC!!!!!

Posted by: yo its me | April 3, 2007 11:06 PM | Report abuse

they go OT.. and then penalties if that doesnt work

and NO away goals do not count

Posted by: kenyn | April 3, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

overtime and then if still tied PKs

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

74th Minute. Chivas seems to be defending assuredly. Fred wins a free kick outside the box.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Jaime out Jamil Walker in

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

what!? Jaime is out. Jamil Walker in. not looking good.

Posted by: andy in annap. | April 3, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

i predicted jamil to score..
come on babyyy

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Limarzi said Jaime may be slightly injured.

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

Ben Olsen called for a heading foul and given a yellow card.

Posted by: Andy in annap. | April 3, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

benny suspended. ugh. well atleast im confident we can take care of the rapids saturday

Posted by: kenny | April 3, 2007 11:15 PM | Report abuse

Benny just got carded. He will be suspended if DC advances.

Posted by: DCUfrvr | April 3, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

if Chivas is packing it in then we need to pressure their goal with outside shots, win some corner kicks and try to capitalize with our taller players in front of their goal (i'm assuming that an eagle can sky higher than a goat)

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Perkins saves a Chivas chance... 84th minute.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 11:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree TedR. Eagles should fly higher thans goats. But damn, their defenders are like sequoyahs.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

not much time left... it may come down to an outstanding DC individual effort for us to advance

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 11:22 PM | Report abuse

oh man! freakin corner cicks

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

DC corner and shots blocked. So close! 89th minute.

Posted by: Andy in Annap. | April 3, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

ref blows the wistle. DC came close, but fell 2-1.

Posted by: andy in annap. | April 3, 2007 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Final whistle. Chivas 2- DCU 1

Posted by: Kristina | April 3, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Shoot. Can't blame the bloody refs today.

Saw very little of fred there.

'night.

Posted by: Drunken Duncan | April 3, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

umm, any update? i believe all the way til the end... has the game ended?

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

what a painful way to lose

Posted by: Rocko | April 3, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh well.

Must say though, hell of an in game comment. It was a pleasure my friends. Drive home safely and please remember to tip your waitress.

Posted by: Kenny | April 3, 2007 11:29 PM | Report abuse

thanks all. yeah, could have been better. DC should be improved as the MLS season gets going. for now... come on Houston!

Posted by: TedR | April 3, 2007 11:30 PM | Report abuse

You could see our defenders were dragging in the last minutes.

Troy is going to beat himself up on that second goal. Basic mistake. He was already thinking of were to release instead of securing the ball.

I think Goff called it correctly at the top of the blog! Hope Houston makes it through so we can have one MLS representative. (But put my money on the Goats to take the Championship)

Posted by: DCU Fan | April 3, 2007 11:36 PM | Report abuse

We played so much better then the first leg, how come this result hurts so much more?

Well, at least we looked like we belong out there and hopefully this erases the taste of that five nil pasting by Pumas. You gotta wonder how things would have turned out if Gross hadn't had to come out in the first half. Oh well, could ah, should ah, would ah....

Maybe next year they'll hold this tournament in the fall.

Posted by: DC Hooligan | April 3, 2007 11:46 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say is, "MLS, you all are on notice. United is back!"

Posted by: Brian | April 3, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

oh man, dc united is the greatest team in the U.S.
even thought we lost... I still love dc united ..can't wait to see dc this season
Moreno you rule!!!!!!!!! 10+ gracias hermano

Posted by: koolcaio | April 3, 2007 11:54 PM | Report abuse

DC looked really good in the first half, then tired in the second half. Strange subs, positioning by Soehn. Why was Fred playing in the middle when the space was on the wings? Why take off Deroux when he looked fresher and quicker than Olsen and Simms? Watching Erpen is like watching the three seconds before a train wreck... for 90 minutes. Emilio is a huge pickup... but the lack of speed overall is worrying me. Better than the beating we took against Pumas.

Posted by: SpikeFC | April 4, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

hey perkins and defense, you blow.

fred and emilio also weren't that impressive.

Posted by: dsnj | April 4, 2007 12:09 AM | Report abuse

We didn't look sharp for most of the game (not just Erpen) and the lack of attacking offensive flow was concerning. We needed a great game to beat Chivas and this wasn't it (the soft goals didn't help).

It was a tough situation to put Fred in, but the performance was not much. I hope he can get more settled somewhere once the season starts. Maybe it's just that he was playing in the middle and didn't seem to link up well with Gomez (who was often missing in action).

I may sound too negative, but we almost sneaked away with the win -- we didn't almost deservedly win.

Posted by: RB | April 4, 2007 12:11 AM | Report abuse

Watched the game on FSC @ Temperance Bar and boy was I surprised at how even we looked. Jamie's soft bicycle may be the prettiest goal we see all year from the red and black. On the first Chivas goal Erpen got smoked on the footie equivalent of a simple backdoor cut, but the real culprit was Boswell, who, as the Chivas player was coming at the goal along the touchline with no angle to do anything, took two steps toward him, leaving his own man unmarked at the 6. Simple pass, simple finish, bad defending. The second Chivas goal was rec-league keeping by Perkins. Long blast from way outside the box, saw it all the way, just didn't watch the ball into his hands -- lost focus. Painful, painful way to lose. It's too bad, 'cause Perkins made two outstanding saves from the ground and generally looked back on form.

DeRoux looked pretty good to me. Speedy, agressive. Simms looked like poo, awful awful crosses. Gomez was pretty invisible for the most part. Fred's 15 minutes were pretty unremarkable. Caroll had some bad moments and some really clumsy-looking tackles. Jamil Walker ran around a lot and accomplished nothing (I see him as the Eddie Johnson of DCU).

On the whole, it was pretty much a 50/50 game. We blew two very good chances, and had a ball off the post in a mad scramble at the very end. Take away the Perkins gaffe, and it could have easily been our night. But it's a game of inches... oh wait, that's baseball... If nothing else we've shown that the days of going in and getting pasted by Mexican clubs are probably a thing of the past.

Posted by: edgeonyou | April 4, 2007 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who thinks that Max Bretos is starting to sound a little like Jiminy Glick?

Posted by: KeeperPat | April 4, 2007 12:25 AM | Report abuse

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