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DCU Draws Chivas

For the second time this year, United will face Mexican club Chivas on the international stage, this time in the Copa Sudamericana. The first match will be played in Washington, the return leg in Guadalajara, beginning in mid-September. As you recall, United lost to the Goats in the CONCACAF Champions' Cup semifinals on a 3-2 aggregate last month.

Tom Soehn's reaction? "We just can't get away from 'em!"

On a more serious note, he added: "I truly wanted to see them in the tournament, but probably not this early. There's some unfinished business on our side."

Will United fair better this time around? Or will the wear and tear of the MLS season hurt their chances?

By Steve Goff  |  May 22, 2007; 3:34 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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I soon as I heard about the draw I wanted DC to back out of it. I mean whats the point of joining a south american tourney only to play a mexican team, especially when were already in the superliga. Just a stupid draw, plan and simple. Forget the revenge factor their probably gonna a have a different team anyway since Omar Bravo, Medina and Bautista are leaving teh team. Huge disappointment IMO.

Posted by: Brian | May 22, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

agree...but payback will be nice.

Posted by: l st | May 22, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

see your point... but i can't deny that i can't wait to play them again

Posted by: Anonymous | May 22, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Look at the bright side. It develops a more local rivalry and gives the team a chance to avenge their defeat. Plus, we get to play them now that we're in mid-season form. If United gets through, we'll get to see those south american teams soon enough.

Posted by: Alex | May 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Report abuse

That is pretty dumb to pit us against Chivas so early in the tournament. Although the revenege factor will be a major story, I would rather see us play against some Argentinian, Colombian, or Brazilian team.

Posted by: DC United Fan | May 22, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

We'll also be playing them in Superliga, no?

Posted by: Logan Circle | May 22, 2007 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Revenge would be sweet.

Posted by: Dave | May 22, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

This time around, we'll be in mid-season form.......

Posted by: Kim | May 22, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Groups for the 2007 SuperLiga

Group A
Chivas de Guadalajara
L.A. Galaxy
FC Dallas
CF Pachuca

Group B
Club América
D.C. United
Houston Dynamo
Monarcas Morelia

more info here:
http://web.mlsnet.com/mls/events/superliga/2007/

Posted by: SuperLiga | May 22, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

At least it makes the travel shorter for this round anyway.

Posted by: Glenn | May 22, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Groups for the 2007 SuperLiga

Group A
Chivas de Guadalajara
L.A. Galaxy
FC Dallas
CF Pachuca

Group B
Club América
D.C. United
Houston Dynamo
Monarcas Morelia

DC and Chivas could meet in the semis or final there.

more info here:
http://web.mlsnet.com/mls/events/superliga/2007/

Posted by: SuperLiga | May 22, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

yeah, it will be our turn to be in mid-season form. plus it would be pretty sweet to develop a major rivalry with chivas.

Posted by: pat | May 22, 2007 4:10 PM | Report abuse

I think we have more depth and energy as a team than we did in 2005, and if we add just a bit of defensive help I see no reason why we can't make it through the season and tournaments with a bit of energy in the tank.

Posted by: Logan Circle | May 22, 2007 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The thing with the Sudamericana is that they (CONMEBOL) group the teams on a regional basis during the first couple of rounds.

Brazilian teams play against each other; Argentinain teams eliminate each other; Bolivian teams are grouped with Chilean; etc. and it is after this round that you get to play against other rivals from other groups.

System is whack, but thats how they do it. America got drawn to play Pachuca on the other CONCACAF tie. You would think being the current champ would earn Pachuca a more reasonable opponent.

Link to the draws (its in Spanish tho, and a lot of teams are yet to be determined - UEFA, the CONMEBOL is not):

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=560781&s=copasud&type=story

Posted by: Vic | May 22, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The thing with the Sudamericana is that they (CONMEBOL) group the teams on a regional basis during the first couple of rounds.

Brazilian teams play against each other; Argentinain teams eliminate each other; Bolivian teams are grouped with Chilean; etc. and it is after this round that you get to play against other rivals from other groups.

System is whack, but thats how they do it. America got drawn to play Pachuca on the other CONCACAF tie. You would think being the current champ would earn Pachuca a more reasonable opponent.

Link to the draws (its in Spanish tho, and a lot of teams are yet to be determined - UEFA, the CONMEBOL is not):

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=560781&s=copasud&type=story

Posted by: Vic | May 22, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The thing with the Sudamericana is that they (CONMEBOL) group the teams on a regional basis during the first couple of rounds.

Brazilian teams play against each other; Argentinain teams eliminate each other; Bolivian teams are grouped with Chilean; etc. and it is after this round that you get to play against other rivals from other groups.

System is whack, but thats how they do it. America got drawn to play Pachuca on the other CONCACAF tie. You would think being the current champ would earn Pachuca a more reasonable opponent.

Link to the draws (its in Spanish tho, and a lot of teams are yet to be determined - UEFA, the CONMEBOL is not):

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/news/story?id=560781&s=copasud&type=story

Posted by: Vic | May 22, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the triple post. =(

Posted by: Vic | May 22, 2007 4:19 PM | Report abuse

How much do I love this blog - every time i turn away from work, there's a cool new story! If DCU could be this consistent...

Posted by: h4 | May 22, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Barring injuries, I expect us to roll over them in August--particularly, as someone stated, if they are without Medina, Bravo and Bautista.

We've added Fred and have some comfortable choices off the bench. It'll be a new United team they'll face.

Posted by: delant | May 22, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Well there are no "pre-season" excuses this time. Hopefully we'll be able to take them this time around. I wonder if we'll be able to get another 25k out to RFK?

Posted by: Max | May 22, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh god, I hope the familiar opponent boosts DCU supporters. Certainly not looking forward to the earsplitting Chivas chant again.

The good news: the mariachi band returns!

Posted by: Arrrlington | May 22, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I dare say attendance is gonna be even better this time around. United has more than 2 weeks to promote this match and the weather won't be awful.

This has gotta be a record year for United's revenues... 2 against chivas, 1 against America, MLS Cup, Beckham, plus the chance for an additional Chivas or Beckham game in the 2nd round of Superliga.

Posted by: Goose | May 22, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

What is chivas....DCU will pas to the second round.

Posted by: Gil | May 22, 2007 5:12 PM | Report abuse

We should win as we will have the in-season advantage this time. But it is certainly disappointing to play a Mexican team in Sudamericana. That's what Interliga is for...

Posted by: Nick | May 22, 2007 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If they expect more than 25K in attendance, perhaps they will open at least portions of the upper deck. If they clearly announce in advance that upper-deck seats will be available, they might get some additional fans (myself included).

Posted by: Go Penn State! | May 22, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Have to love the opportunity to get some revenge and prove a point.

Also, we still need a defender. One idea could be to call up AC Milan and ask which of your really good over 30 yr. old defenders (which means just about all of them) can we buy? I don't think there's much risk of them being over the hill, Italian defenders seem to be like fine wine.

Posted by: sg | May 22, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

There's a part of me that thinks this is lame, but the better part of me feels like this is a pretty nice draw. If people want to talk about MLS proving themselves, then the first step has been and will be competing with Mexican teams. I'd like to see what a mid-season United can pull off, and let's say that I'm rather optimistic. We really do need to add some defensive depth though, at this rate our defenders are going to clock every minute of every game and that'll take its toll soon enough.

Posted by: RJ | May 22, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

The full draw from the CONMEBOL site (only in Spanish so far):
http://www.conmebol.com/articulos_ver.jsp?id=60599&slangab=S



Posted by: TH | May 22, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

"System is whack"

Tournament is whack. Without rules for qualification established beforehand, it becomes arbitrary, based on invitation, and isn't any better than the La Manga Cup.

It should concern you lot because when Harrison is built, RBNY becomes a much more appealing candidate for "invite only" competitions. DC's coasting, and is on their way to becoming the American Accrington Stanley.

Posted by: Ubumaurypovich | May 22, 2007 7:30 PM | Report abuse

"System is whack"

Tournament is whack. Without rules for qualification established beforehand, it becomes arbitrary, based on invitation, and isn't any better than the La Manga Cup.

It should concern you lot because when Harrison is built, RBNY becomes a much more appealing candidate for "invite only" competitions. DC's coasting, and is on its way to becoming the American Accrington Stanley.

That said, Chivas sucks. I wish there was a way to just pull the handle and flush both teams down the toilet.

Posted by: Ubumaurypovich | May 22, 2007 7:34 PM | Report abuse

harrison is the same as the metrostars, meadowlands and the red bulls: full of garbage. Thanks for your insight, N.T.A.C..

Posted by: cbeemer | May 22, 2007 10:18 PM | Report abuse

cbeemer, Thank you. Let the NY Crackheads have their harison crack dream. They are just jealous.

Anyway. A positive of potentially meeting Chivas 3 times this year in international competition is that it will be good for the rivalry.

Posted by: well | May 22, 2007 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Rivalry? There will be no rivalry with Chivas of Guadalajara unless we beat them.

But I'm surprised that so many people are disappointed with this draw. Mexican or South American, who cares? Winning would bring us respect and a chance to keep playing, that's what matters.

Posted by: Joe S. | May 23, 2007 2:21 AM | Report abuse

It's "fare better", isn't it?

Posted by: Ron | May 23, 2007 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Payback...this time it's for real.

Posted by: Time for Revenge | May 23, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

Payback...this time it's for real.

Posted by: Time for Revenge | May 23, 2007 9:24 AM | Report abuse

With them in their offseason and us in mid-season, we should be able to turn the tables (considering we only went out on a 1 in 1000 gaffe from Perkins).

Comparing the La Manga (which is Spanish for "Utterly Meaningless") Cup to the Copa Sudamericana is already the winner for the most absurd thing I will see or hear today. Congratulations, Jeff Brad...I mean, random metro fan.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | May 23, 2007 10:00 AM | Report abuse

With them in their offseason and us in mid-season, we should be able to turn the tables (considering we only went out on a 1 in 1000 gaffe from Perkins).

While that reasoning works for SuperLiga (starting play in July), it doesn't for this. The Sudamericana gmes against Chivas will take place in September, after Chivas has already started the Apertura 2007 season. They won't be in "pre-season" form. Furthermore, they'll have already plaed in SuperLiga themselves which will aid to get them into regular playing shape.

Posted by: Drew | May 23, 2007 2:06 PM | Report abuse

EVEN IF PLAYERS LEAVE FROM CHIVAS.CHIVAS ARE AND WILL BEAT THE BALD EAGLES.WITH CHIVAS HAVING 11 TITLES IN MEXIICO . CHIVAS NO MATTER WHAT WILL WIN.CCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIVVVVVVVAAAAAAAASSSSSS!!!!!!!!

Posted by: chivas #1 | June 3, 2007 8:39 PM | Report abuse

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