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USA-MEX: The Aftermath

There have been a lot of memorable USA-Mexico matches the last 15 years. From a quality standpoint, safe to say this one topped them all.

Pulsating two-way soccer. Outstanding saves. Excruciating misses. Exciting atmosphere. PK controversy. Nastiness. A key substitution by Bob Bradley. A pink polo shirt for Hugo Sanchez. And of course a sensational game-winning goal.

Injury update: According to Sanchez, Guardado was feeling dizzy after the game and was taken to the hospital for precautionary reasons, but is expected to travel to Copa with the Mexican squad. Spector suffered a mild concussion. I did not hear anything about Borgetti (anyone out there with an update from a Spanish Web site?).

USA player ratings:

Howard 8; Spector 7, Onyewu 6, Bocanegra 6, Bornstein 5; Donovan 7, Mastroeni 5, Beasley 6, Feilhaber 8; Dempsey 5, Ching 7. Subs: Clark 7, Twellman 5, Simek 6.

My game report.

The Goal:

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Bonus Bob Bradley quotes below, and of course, feel free to share your late-night, early-morning thoughts here.

BOB BRADLEY
(Overall) "Every big game is a test and throughout each camp we talk about what it takes to become a really good team - how to become stronger, how to learn to trust each other. We are very excited about the fact that we can continue to get stronger as a group and win this. It means a great deal to all of us."
(On Feilhaber) "Benny added a lot today and one of the things that he always does well is that he's comfortable on the ball in the midst of all the pressure that was in the midfield today. He's still confident that he can make plays."
(On Mastroeni) "We could see in the first half that he didn't have his legs today. It was a game at that point where we are behind, we have to take chances and Ricardo is a player who in the midst of all that, has great instincts, athletically he's a gifted guy and I think he was able to add energy to the midfield, work with Benny and we needed that. Honestly, in the first half today, we didn't have enough energy in the midfield. At times, Mexico was able to put us on our heels."
(On moving Donovan to the flank) "With the pressure in the midfield, at times we needed to be more direct. That's not something is going to work with Landon up front. In those moments, you are trying to find ways for him to find more space."
(On psychological edge over El Tri) "Mexico is a great rival. One of the things that keeps us going is that we do respect them. It's important to always understand that in this game you have to be humble, you have to work hard and you have to understand that the game always keeps you honest. You can't look backward; you have to look forward."
(On the late misses) "Finishing games hasn't been our strong suit in the Gold Cup. At this point we can laugh about it, but nonetheless it's something that becomes important because you know in big games when it's one goal that the other team will throw everything they have at the end and the moments you get chances to build on that lead you have to take advantage of it."
(On Landon) "We have challenged him throughout the year to understand what it means to take a bigger role, how you have to carry yourself, how you have to speak to the press, how you have to talk to your teammates all the time. The opportunity to play a huge role in a national team is something very few players ever experience and as much as he has played for the national team in many years, to be one of the players that has that responsibility is a new challenge for him. The fact that we won this tournament and that again he has given us a great effort in whatever role we give him is an indication that all of those challenges are taking him in the right direction."

By Steve Goff  |  June 24, 2007; 10:25 PM ET
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Comments

Amazing match. On the edge of my seat teh entire time. Bradley is looking like a genius with his subs and Mexico was dangerous. This game is the perfect example of why soccer is such a wonderful sport.

Anyone else wonder if Cuautehmoc's kindness after the game is in anticipation of his pending arrival with the Fire? Either way, nice to see some jersey swapping and kind words after the game. I am sick and tired of Sanchez saying that the team who played better didn't win. Same line after we beat them in Phoenix.

Posted by: Sam | June 24, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

The team finished the Gold Cup 6-0, so, at the end of the day we should applaud the performance. However, there are still a number of areas that need to be addressed prior to World Cup qualification (communication breakdowns in the defense; ineffective forward line; Beasley). I assume it is too much to expect that the team's weaknesses are addressed prior to Thursday's match against Argentina.

Posted by: DWE4 | June 24, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

Excellent match... could have gone either way. One of these days they're whup up on us good; let's just hope it's in a friendly.

Now, on to the Copa.

Posted by: bbarrie | June 24, 2007 11:12 PM | Report abuse

...and sorry Steven, but 2002 WC round of 16 is still the best in my book.

Posted by: bbarrie | June 24, 2007 11:16 PM | Report abuse

i'm curious about spector's 7; what did he do especially well today? i actually thought he was something of a liability on the field for the first half... again, these ratings are always subjuctive, but i thought he turned in a rather par performance.

exceptional game. harrowing end. i'm going to have a heart attack if we continute to miss open nets like that. howard really impressed today. and mr. bradley looks like he knows what he's doing. i just wish we actually had a team that could really compete in the copa america.

Posted by: longfellow | June 24, 2007 11:23 PM | Report abuse

the ocd in me wants to point out: 'subjective,' not 'subjuctive.'

Posted by: longfellow | June 24, 2007 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Yes Round of 16 was better... and in overall importance, the fab draw in the Azteca when Agoos was sent off was equally vital performance. But baby this is sweet. And didn't Hugo look pretty in pink?

Posted by: Rtb | June 24, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Agree with the above, Spector was ordinary. moves up well, but mediocre defender. I think Simek is the better option, and Spector was not one of the highest rated players for me.

I thought Beasley did well, could have been a 7 to your 6, Steve. Obviously the miss was excruciating (But Ching had one as well?), and he still suffers a stiff first touch at times, but he really attacked with vigor today.

I thought Gooch and Boca were huge in the middle, albeit not perfect.

Great match.

Question on the Mex Injury and FSC: Did he really lie on the field for 5-7 minutes while being totally ignored by Max and Chris? The camera kept showing the Dr's working on him, but not a word!

Posted by: JkR | June 24, 2007 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Great game. This one was especially sweet because it wasn't the usual efficient performance in which we absorb their meaningless pressure and then counter or score on set pieces. This time we came out after the half and systematically tore them apart. Clearly the better team in the 2nd despite a pretty poor 1st half. The Clark sub was phenomenal, and Ching was actually pretty useful despite his horrible miss toward the end. Also, as much as I love to hate Landycakes he is so cool under pressure, and it's hard to really ask for more out of him than what we got today. Finally, the Feilhaber goal was probably the greatest in US history (maybe after Caligiri's against T&T to qualify for WC 1990).

Posted by: Max | June 24, 2007 11:47 PM | Report abuse

my man of the match was bocanegra - man, he was solid. impressive.

those 2 missed goals stick in my mind, but c'est la vie. we played like we should be playing for the most part.

what a match!

Posted by: fever | June 25, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

I just finished watching the match for the third time and it was just as amazing thrice as it was twice. That was a greatly entertaining and well contested match. The first half chants of "MEXICO" from the crowd almost had me pulling for them. After the US scored, the lowered volume and greater tension? from the crowd was just as stunning. Somehow, the US inability to finish or put teams away made this game even better. Why can't every CONCACAF match be like that? Now I fear I'll be even more disappointed during the Copa America.

Posted by: sitruc | June 25, 2007 1:10 AM | Report abuse

"Question on the Mex Injury and FSC: Did he really lie on the field for 5-7 minutes while being totally ignored by Max and Chris? The camera kept showing the Dr's working on him, but not a word!"

They did finally mention it, and I also wondered why it took them so long, but it -- for me, at least -- was the only glitch in their commentary.

Posted by: Juan-John | June 25, 2007 1:36 AM | Report abuse

should have been 4-1.....is there anything that makes you feel better than beating mexico????? as a tribute I am wearing my us jersey all week..yeah all week. This victory was about heart and effort. I love it.

Posted by: lanorte | June 25, 2007 1:40 AM | Report abuse

Can Cobi Jones please instruct the team that when you are winning with 5 minutes left, to dribble to the corner flag, setup camp there, and then shield the ball to kill off clock?!?!? It was nice that the boys were trying to knock home the third, but come on...KILL THE GAME! Cobi was a master at this.

Posted by: London Dan | June 25, 2007 3:46 AM | Report abuse

Jared Borgetti has a possible tear in his right leg but is headed for Venezuela

the report was from mexico city paper but lacked details vefutbol.com.mx

Posted by: Paul | June 25, 2007 4:42 AM | Report abuse

I want two officials in the middle...Fifa is testing it and I think it would be great....it would still be a judgement call, but made by a ref that is closer to the area and not running so much, i hope this is the near future.

Posted by: Paul | June 25, 2007 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Great match, indeed. I think Feilhaber has announced whose team this is now. The more experience and culture this kid gets in Germany, the more solid we are going to become. Donovan has never been comfortable with the responsibility of leading the team, so hopefully he can just concentrate on scoring goals and let Benny run the show. And as for the team captain:

Bocanegra was man of the match. Constantly covering the flanks, putting balls out of play when needed, and no silly fouls. He and Gooch teamed up really nicely together. Sooooooo comforting to know we have the beasts in the middle who can actually play.

It's true we need to finish better, but remember where our rise from the depths started back in the late 80's: in the back. Get a solid defense together so you don't get embarrassed, and the rest will come. This was a good, solid start.

Posted by: grotus | June 25, 2007 7:37 AM | Report abuse

Steve,

Great as always, but you allude to the PK as controversial on this blog as well as in the paper. Just because 1 side thinks it was wrong doesn't make it controversial in my book. Ching had turned and was about ready to go shoot the ball with only the keeper to beat when the defender stuck out his knee to trip him on the thigh. It was definitely a foul and other than the whiny Mexicans, I would think most refs would see it as a PK.

By the way, I had heard that only Salcido exchanged jerseys, but Blanco did as well? And he only fell twice trying to get a foul in 20 minutes! He must have been trying to be on good behavior!

Posted by: Dsmac | June 25, 2007 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Great call on that goal...GOLAZO, GOLAZO, AZO! Except that "Azo" doesn't sound very nice in English. Fix that clip's link!

Posted by: RK | June 25, 2007 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Hell of a game! Now lets go for the double and win the Copa America!

Posted by: John | June 25, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

The second half adjustments and that fantastic strike by Feilhaber covered up some of the cracks nicely. What a goal!

I thought the defense was shaky at best (but some nice work by Bocanegra helped). As a fellow Montgomery County kid, I root for Gooch like crazy, but he's just not on the level we need him to be on right now. Off the pace, loses his mark and I think every Mexico corner found it's way to the head of one of their players (usually Marquez). With any composure, Mexico should have had a couple more goals. Thank goodness Mexico just fall to pieces when they play us!

But it's a great win. Now let's see if the defense can bunker down for the stern test that Copa will pose.

Posted by: Kev | June 25, 2007 9:26 AM | Report abuse

""Question on the Mex Injury and FSC: Did he really lie on the field for 5-7 minutes while being totally ignored by Max and Chris? The camera kept showing the Dr's working on him, but not a word!"

They did finally mention it, and I also wondered why it took them so long, but it -- for me, at least -- was the only glitch in their commentary."

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I like Sullivan's commentary very much, but so far as I'm concerned just about every word out of Max's mouth is a glitch. I wish he'd learn to shut up.

Posted by: Dave | June 25, 2007 9:27 AM | Report abuse

Has to be one of the best goal calls ever!

GOLAZO, GOLAZO, GOLAZO AZO AZO AZO!!!!

Get that OSWALDO SANCHEZ (GK)?!

Posted by: delantero | June 25, 2007 9:30 AM | Report abuse

What a strike!

Posted by: Twoste | June 25, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

As more evidence of what a d-bag O. Sanchez is, what's the deal with him screaming at one of his post defenders immediately following the Feilhaber strike? It's not like that defender (or anyone, for that matter) could have done anything differently to stop that goal, and it certainly wasn't that defender who cleared the ball to the top of the box, so he can't even be blamed for setting up the play. That seems to me to be the kind of in-fighting that always plagues Mexico when they face adversity.

Posted by: couchtoast | June 25, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Hugo Sanchez: "'When you lose doing what we did, you can't be sad,' Mexico coach Hugo Sanchez said. 'It bothers me, sure. But when you look at how we did in the tournament, we got a lot better and we deserved a better result. Sometimes the team that plays better doesn't always win.'"

Sore loser! No matter how good a player he allegedly was at some point in the past, he never takes responsibility for his team's poor performance...

Boo-f#$%ing-hoo!!

PS... I was right about not including Cuauhtemoc Blanco in my WC squad... he's a menace to the team's chemistry...

Posted by: Ricardo Lavolpe | June 25, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Someone must have really layed into Feilhaber and Ching at half time. I thought they both underperformed in the first half. Benny is great at winning the ball away from the opposition, but then he also has a horrible tendency to give it right back. And Ching was ineffective up front. But then they each probably had their best halves in a USMNT uniform. Way to step up!

Even though it's about 80% a different squad, I think this win is going to give us a lot of confidence going into Copa America. We are going to come out playing on Thursday night. Argenwho?

Posted by: Shatz | June 25, 2007 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Borgetti is going to VZ, where they will see how he is doing. At that point, they'll make a decision if they are going to include him or not.

Posted by: RK | June 25, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Damn it, I was stuck golfing behind a group that turned the back nine into a three and a half hour odyessey, so I missed the game. Is anyone reshowing the game anytime soon? The highlights are nice, but I want to see the whole thing.

And Paul ... where the hell did you hear that two-referee stuff? Have you ever gone to a high school game where the two whistle system is in effect? I guarantee that the refereeing will get worse with a two whistle system, both because the current crop of FIFA officials will quit in anger. It sounds like a great idea, but in practice it sucks. I can speak from experience as both a referee in a two-whistle system and a player in it. You want just one referee. Get them fit and get them working to stay atop the play.

Posted by: G-Unit | June 25, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Hell of a game! Now lets go for the double and win the Copa America!

Posted by: John | June 25, 2007 07:59 AM

Even though it's about 80% a different squad, I think this win is going to give us a lot of confidence going into Copa America. We are going to come out playing on Thursday night. Argenwho?

Posted by: Shatz | June 25, 2007 10:09 AM


Dear Stupid, Delusional US Gnats Team Fans:

Argentina is going to destroy your beloved little team. If it's not more than 5-0, consider it a victory.

Have fun in Venezuela, gringos. You won't get a penalty called in your favor every match down there, with real referees.

Keep the CONCACAF Tin Cup nice and shiny. It's the only one you're collecting for a long while.

Posted by: Juan Román Riquelme | June 25, 2007 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Somehow we always come up with a breathtaking goals against Mexico. The boys came out in the second half with a great sense of urgency that they rarely have. Whatever Bradley said to them, it worked.

The central D played much, much better. Unfortunately Borenstein gets caught upfield and leaves a big gap that Bocanegra has to cover. Mexico (and Canada) exploited that. Everyone needs to stay after practice to work on their finishing drills. We should have buried Mexico in the lake bed.

Mexico played a good match strategically . They know who our yellow card magnets are are try the bump-and-fall. Mastroieni would have been a huge liability in the 2nd half.

By echoing the Brazilian mantra of "it's better to play pretty and lose than play ugly and win," Hugo Sanchez is fighting for his job. I won't hold that quote against him.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 25, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Great match!

Had me on the edge of my seat. Looked like Mexico was going to blow us away in the first half. Castillo is a great find for them and Hugo Sanchez deserves some credit for getting him to commit to the Tri.

What did people think of the PK no calls that could have gone against Gooch in bumping a couple of Tri players to the ground? The Mex strikers were probably embellishing a bit, so the ref wasn't buying it. Perhaps some poetic justice for Gooch after the PK call against Ghana. The PK call on the Ching play seemed pretty obvious.

I love this team, our coach and our players. We beat a team with four starters on Champions League teams in a stadium where 80 percent of the people were rooting against us. Who's your daddy, Mexico?

Posted by: Bill in Md. | June 25, 2007 10:59 AM | Report abuse

What's up with the low rating for Twellman? He got right up in the GP's face which led to the corner and Benny's incredible strike. That was brilliant work by Twellman (no foul either). Plus, he had many other nice hold and turns up the field. Ching was on his way out until the PK, but even after that he missed an open net. I'll give Ching credit, but Twellman had a solid game.

Posted by: boston | June 25, 2007 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Fantastic goalkeeping on both sides, too. I loved the shot that Sanchez saved with his face, too.

I can't wait until we beat Mexico in Azteca.

Posted by: RK | June 25, 2007 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Dear Stupid, Delusional US Gnats Team Fans:

Argentina is going to destroy your beloved little team. If it's not more than 5-0, consider it a victory.

Have fun in Venezuela, gringos. You won't get a penalty called in your favor every match down there, with real referees.

Keep the CONCACAF Tin Cup nice and shiny. It's the only one you're collecting for a long while.

Dear pathetic argie, who's two world cups come courtesy of 1. The Junta, 2. the hand of God (Ie: the cokehead fatass). Are you so pathetically in doubt of your own two cups that you have to come on to a post-game site and defend your A team vs. our B team? How sad is that? You've got Messi and yet you still have to take shots at the Americans and their Tin Cup? Let them enjoy their win. No need to throw them off a plane.

Posted by: HMS Coventry | June 25, 2007 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Goff:

Great gamer. My only quibble is that you and everybody else has said that the game was played to a "sellout crowd." Soldier Field's capacity is 60,000-plus, yet Fox Soccer Report's box score showed the attendance to be just over 50,000-plus.

Clearly, FSC was wrong with its attendance numbers, right? :-)

Posted by: Juan-John | June 25, 2007 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Unrelated to this particular game but...
Does anyone know how Steve Cherundolo is doing? And can he play left back when healthy, or just on the right? Between Cherundolo, Simek, and Spector, we're going to have a wealth of talent at right back for the next few years.

I think he's going to turn into a high quality player, but I'd hate to think that Bornstein is our only good option on the left at this point.

Posted by: Shatz | June 25, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

great game yesterday... I am very upset that the USSF is sending such a weak team to such a prestigious tournament "copa America". What are the expectations of this tournament...3 and out????? Copa oro is good tournament for younger players to develop, beacuse you know that most of those teams are below the soccer below of US team. In the other hand Copa America..you know about half if not more are at a higher level of soccer...that's when you play your good players and measure them against the best at the game....that's all from a very disappointed fan....still number one fan

Posted by: NUMBER1FAN | June 25, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Re: the lack of TV comments on the injured Mexican. I wondered the same thing, and think that perhaps what happened was that the announcers weren't watching the monitors at the time but rather were watching the presentations. A lot of times for postgame activities the monitors aren't in use, so they may not have been aware anything was going on.

Posted by: Kevin | June 25, 2007 11:50 AM | Report abuse

"They know who our yellow card magnets are are try the bump-and-fall."

I meant "and tried the bump and fall."

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 25, 2007 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Great gamer. My only quibble is that you and everybody else has said that the game was played to a "sellout crowd." Soldier Field's capacity is 60,000-plus, yet Fox Soccer Report's box score showed the attendance to be just over 50,000-plus.

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60,000 sellout. The final tickets were gone on Thursday.

Posted by: Goff | June 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

NUMBER1FAN, the prize for winning the Gold Cup is greater than the Copa America. That's it.

Posted by: RK | June 25, 2007 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Remember when Bruce Arena was suspended in WC qualifying for berating the referee after the game. It appeared on Sunday that Hugo Sanchez did that and some.
The video showed him on the field and restrained from the officials while yelling at them and some could say acting in a treating manor. How come no action by
FIFA?

Posted by: Keith C | June 25, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

G-Unit:
I was wrong, they are trying 4 assistants, perhaps in u17, u20 world cup this summer, 2 extra have whistles

Posted by: Paul | June 25, 2007 12:33 PM | Report abuse

is it me or did it look like Twellman was about to come on for Ching just before the PK.
then because of that play, Bradley had a change of heart and made Twellman sit for a little longer to sub for Dempsey 10 minutes later.

Posted by: displaced | June 25, 2007 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"is it me or did it look like Twellman was about to come on for Ching just before the PK."

It really looked like that. We were and shouting "Sit down Taylor" at the TV.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 25, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Nice win by the Nat'l Team, I hope it pays off with a good learning experience in the Confed Cup in '09. We didn't really learn much from beating Mexico again, especially since our goals came from criminally poor defending on the PK and a one-in-a-thousand lucky shot. Meanwhile, we've set ourselves up for serious failure at the Copa America. If Donovan, Beasley, Dempsey & co. don't want to play against Argentina now, how will that help them play against top teams in the 2010 World Cup?

Posted by: SSMD | June 25, 2007 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Seeing as I do have digital cable but don't have a DVR, I'm leaning toward just plopping my bony butt on a bar stool at Summer's this Thursday and watching both games at the same time.

Posted by: Juan-John | June 25, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

to the ones who are calling the mexicans "whiners" about the penalty. I watched the game here in Mexico and everyone, absolutely everyone agreed that it was a good call. It was the questionable no-call that angered some. Overall, everyone, except for Hugo, is blaming themselves. Mexicans are blaming Hugo and the players...NOT the referee!!!!

Posted by: bluefish | June 25, 2007 6:37 PM | Report abuse

I was lucky enough to be at the game. the noise in that stadium after the Mexico goal may have been the loudest thing I have ever heard.

Great game and great time!

Posted by: TakomaTip | June 25, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Great tourney. A few obvious (and near calamitous) mistakes in front & back, but overall we looked pretty, which isn't a word I normally associate with US Soccer. We should be in rebuilding mode after losing Reyna, Friedel & McBride, but we haven't seen a dropoff. This team is very young, so with any luck will keep getting better until 2010.

Concacaf may make a splash in South Africa.

Posted by: dj milk | June 25, 2007 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Juan Román Riquelme knows a whole lot about Mexico's record over the past 6 years against the US... but to pull out the g-bomb!? My prediction is the real Riquelme goes out in the first round with an injury from a weak foul from a Columbian hacker.

Posted by: Lemoyne | June 25, 2007 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone who was at a better vantage point -- better than a seat in front of YouTube, that is -- say whether Feilhaber's volley took a deflection on its way to the side-netting? Pure curiosity, and apologies if the question has come up in the thread previously -- I don't read too good. Thanks.

Posted by: stevie in nh | June 25, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice that on the beginning of the failed Beasley-Donovan breakaway towards the end of the game that a Mexican player got knocked down by the ref? I think the mexican player realized he was out of position, felt contact, and tried to play it up, only to realize that it was the ref once he was already on the ground.

Posted by: Sam | June 25, 2007 11:20 PM | Report abuse

How in the hell did you give Onyewu and Bocanegra the same rating? Did you watch the game?

Posted by: tomk | June 26, 2007 3:53 AM | Report abuse

Overall, everyone, except for Hugo, is blaming themselves. Mexicans are blaming Hugo and the players...NOT the referee!!!!

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they shouldn't blame the players at all. they left it all on the field and played some beautiful soccer. sanchez' player selection, however, was bizarre all tournement, and he simply failed to adapt to bradley's second half changes. he's a pretty bad coach, and i have feeling he's gonna be gone very soon. considering how badly he treated lavolpe, one would assume he will get even more scrutiny for his poor performance. he's a clown and that shirt he was wearing didn't help him any.

Posted by: jerad | June 26, 2007 3:54 AM | Report abuse

I was out and have the game waiting on tape, but I'm sure that despite the score - again - the Mexican team showed themselves to be the better team and the true champion. ;)

Posted by: Rob | June 26, 2007 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I hope the next Gold Cup takes place in another country. I think canada would make a good host, but I'm sure there are other good spots for it as well.

Posted by: diego r. | June 26, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

TakomaTip:

You do not know what loud is until you have been to the Azteca and are 200 against 100,000 plus. When the USA wins there in a qualifier, then the world will be impressed.

Posted by: MR Caretaker | June 26, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

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