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Big Night

For D.C. United, you get a link to the game report and player ratings only (video not appropriate for impressionable minds). For USA-Uruguay and Mexico-Argentina, you get highlights!

DCU report here, player ratings there: Nolly 4, Mediate 5, Boswell 6, Burch 5, J. Carroll 5.5, Simms 5, B. Carroll 6, deRoux 5.5, Dyachenko 4, Addlery 4, North 4. Subs: McTavish 6, Gros 6, Mupier 4, Moose 5.

USA Highlights:

USA Postgame Scrum:

Messi rules:


By Steve Goff  |  July 12, 2007; 9:14 AM ET
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First!
DCUnited, glad I wasn't able to watch this turd.

U-20 USA win, grit and glory.

Argentina, ... uh, Argentina. Enough said.

Posted by: gallegoscot1 | July 12, 2007 9:37 AM | Report abuse

why do you get 4 subs in the Open Cup?

Posted by: pat | July 12, 2007 9:41 AM | Report abuse

Re Goff's ratings--apparently even with 4 substitutes DCU couldn't get the job done. "Subs: McTavish 6, Gros 6, Mupier 4, Moose 5."

Posted by: Larry | July 12, 2007 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Soy Manya! | July 12, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Jay Nolly--one of the greatest, or THE greatest?

Posted by: Logan Circle | July 12, 2007 9:50 AM | Report abuse

U20: I'll preface this by saying that I don't know anyone form Uruguay, nor have I been there. So this is not about all Uruguyans. However, their Copa America loss to Brazil also ended in some very unsportsmanlike behavior. Maybe it's part of the their soccer federation's culture to be poor losers. Having said that, Michael Bradley is a professional. He is capped on the senior national team. He has no excuse to lose his temper after a win. Solid move by Rongen to throttle him.

DC United: I didn't make the trip to Hempsville. If I did, I'd be pissed off that DC put out a poor effort. All this stuff about sparing players for a long MLS season makes sense when you decline a friendly. This is a tournament. One loss and DC is out. A regular season loss, given DC's standing, isn't as consequential (MLS has playoffs for cryin' out loud). If Soehn was pleased that only one player was called up for the All-Star game, he should be jumping for joy that DC is out of this USOC distraction. Hell, let's sandbag the SuperLiga too.

Get well soon Jozy!

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 12, 2007 9:51 AM | Report abuse

So...I didn't see anywhere that FIFA changed the rule for yellows for the tourney. That would mean that no Freddy, no Bradley and maybe no Altidore? Ugh...

Posted by: mcn107 | July 12, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

1) Uruguayans were upset in the Brazil game because the Brazilian goalkeeper went off his line by about 4 feet before the last penalty kick was taken (and he saved it by doing that). It should have been retaken. They were also upset with the referee at allowing the game to continue with poor lighting on the Uruguayan defensive side in the first half.

2) Against USA, they were upset that in the tying goal Rogers (I think) controls the ball with the help of his left arm (can't quite see it well in the fifa or youtube replays).

Beyond this, having spent part of my childhood in Uruguay, I would agree that uruguayans feel less shy about complaining and airing out grievances in games than other teams do, but everyone cheats about the same.

Posted by: JP | July 12, 2007 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Soy Manya!....great read, thanks for the link.

Posted by: mcn107 | July 12, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Don't they wipe the cards slate clean after the group stages? Therefore, that cast of characters would have to watch themselves going forward, but they should be OK to play against Austria.

Posted by: tmc | July 12, 2007 10:05 AM | Report abuse

"Don't they wipe the cards slate clean after the group stages?"

I am embarrassed that I can't remember...I looked through the competition rules, but couldn't find it....sure hope that is the case.

Posted by: mcn107 | July 12, 2007 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the Uruguayan teams are disappointed because they've actually won tournaments

Posted by: rosado | July 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Pretty cheap by the uruguayan team, I know they're just kids, but to think that they didn't get the benefit of the calls in that game is ridiculous. And Bradley didn't overreact. He used just about the right amount of anger. Him mouthing '2-1' is priceless.

Posted by: DCAustinite | July 12, 2007 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Sad to see Bradley miming 2-1 with his fingers at the Uruguayans after the match. I sore winner is much worse than a sore loser, imho.

Posted by: DC | July 12, 2007 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Great goal by Messi. He's a cut above. Should be a great match Sunday.

Ref at the U-20 match was like a random card machine -- it's no wonder he lost control of things. It didn't help that Uruguay was playing thuggish ball and not getting called on it. They succeeded in taking Altidore out of the match without even getting called for a foul! That kind of crap always bothers me.

Any word yet on Jozy's condition? He looked pretty bad.

Posted by: JJH | July 12, 2007 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Goff, any update on Altidore and Seitz?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 10:23 AM | Report abuse

i posted this in the other thread, but with US Soccer being mum on Seitz' injury before last nights game, I imagine they'll do the same with Altidore, for competitive reasons.

Posted by: pat | July 12, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Someone sucker punched Bradley (or at least tried). He reacted well in my book.

Posted by: Hoost | July 12, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Rosada - "Maybe the Uruguayan teams are disappointed because they've actually won tournaments"

When? 1950? Is that really pertinent?

Posted by: Tim | July 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey DC & I-270... Bradley's anger was well warranted. That little POS #7 for Uruguay came up and kicked Bradley in the knee AFTER the game was over.

Posted by: JRNail | July 12, 2007 10:42 AM | Report abuse

While the reffing at the Copa hasn't been perfect, it would be nice to see the two semifinal refs teach the U-20s refs how to maintain control. The Arg-Mex game was really fun to watch b/c the ref actually let the game play and didn't go card crazy.

Posted by: Adam | July 12, 2007 10:49 AM | Report abuse

My impressions from Hempstead:

We dominated possession, but part of that was Harrisburg not even attempting to have any. They dropped off with at least 9 men behind the ball from the start, and we never really looked like we'd figure it out. DeRoux got open a few times, but can't really finish. After a couple bad shot attempts, he moved on to low crosses that were either just ahead of our forwards or were good crosses that no one made a good run for.

Moose and Gros came on and upped the energy, but did not improve the actual soccer. There was a stretch in the middle of the second half where they were the only two that looked like they knew we were still involved in a knockout tournament game. Our best chance came from Simms, who had to leap just to make contact. That, and a throw-in that both teams allowed to bounce before it was somehow deflected onto the roof of the goal. That should tell you everything.

I would have given Dyachenko and Addlery 2s. Yes, 2. Professional attackers should be able to touch the ball without having it go yards away. I also thought Nolly was respectable aside from their goal. Of course, you can flip that and say that on half of their chances, he made a mistake.

Credit Harrisburg for knowing our players habits (DeRoux's marker, for example, was defending the dribble almost exclusively, knowing that it is 90% of DeRoux's game) and throwing themselves in the way of shots and passes. They finished one of their two chances. It seems to be a good organization, other than the lack of any sort of crowd noise and the jock jams throughout the game.

The only good thing to come out of the game was the new chant of "SPORTS!" to replace "Charge!"

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | July 12, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

In Open Cup, teams are permitted four subs. Not sure why -- just the way it is.

Posted by: Goff | July 12, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The cheapshot on Bradley by #7 comes at the 1:07 mark in the you tube countdown. I'd have been angry as well. If there had been a better camera angle, I think the Uruguayan kid could have gotten some stiff sanctions. Bradley even had his back turned.

In defense of Uruguayans, I have several dozen Uruguayan friends who are the salt of the earth. Great people.

And the contact with the US player's elbow in the box was clearly inadvertant and nothing to complain about.

Posted by: Sam | July 12, 2007 11:03 AM | Report abuse

According to mlsnet:

a Uruguayan player punched a volunteers in the runway leading to the locker rooms afterwards, according to a tournament official).

I think the Uruguayans are going to be in trouble with FIFA after this.

Posted by: Rich C | July 12, 2007 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Uruguay: The Portugal of South America

Posted by: Dave Lifton | July 12, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I-270: Bradley was kicked in the leg by the Uraguayan player. He has every right to lose his temper like that. He didn't try to swing back or anything just talked a lot of trash with lots of curse words. The worst part of that whole video is the gutless #7 complaining that Bradley was taunting him AFTER #7 kicked Bradley in the leg.

Posted by: Kinney | July 12, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Stunned? Really, do we think that DC United was "stunned" to lose this stinker with the squad it cobbled together? Seems to me that this was a strategic match for United...get some experience for the reserves against a hungry team. If we win, great, we'll play again. If not, even better, we won't play again and we can save some strength/energy/health for other matches against top-tier competition. Plus, we get to see for sure that Nicholas Addlery really does indeed stink (as if we didn't know that already!).

You would hope that even MLS reserves could beat a USL2 team, but c'mon it's not that big of a deal. MLS reserves are on par with a lot of first teamers on USL1 squads. And there are always some gems toiling away in the lower levels.

I do think it's weird that the host team can choose to play at a different field just because they want to. Is their home field turf also? BTW - the City Islanders name is alright considering City Island is where they play their games, but Socceritaville? Pathetic.

Posted by: DE | July 12, 2007 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Bradley showing his fingers and saying the 2-1 score was classic, not poor sportsmanship. The Uruguayans have proven to be poor sports on all levels. Part of this is their sporting culture and part of it is on the coaches because you have to control your team and not allow anything like that happen. Although Bradley was rightly incensed, the "scoreboard" retort is the perfect answer without crossing the line to the unacceptable. The crowd at Summers for the game let out a nice little cheer when we saw him doing that.

Posted by: G-Dub | July 12, 2007 11:18 AM | Report abuse

JP, stop making excuses for the Uruguayans. I was born in Uruguay and have not rooted for a Uruguayan team for many years because of their lack of character. It has become commonplace for them to lash out after the final whistle for some 10+ years now. I witnessed one of these melees on vacation there a few years ago in the Centenario. I think it was a Libertadores game with Flamengo (or some Brazilian team). Peñarol won the match, but lost the series and immediately after the final whistle, a Peñarol player turned and punched a Brazilian and all hell broke loose--after about a minute, the brazilians realized the cops and official were doing nothing to stop it and they ran and literally dove down the concrete stairs into the dressing rooms. One derby between Peñarol and arch rivals nacional a few years after the above incident also ended in a riot where some of the Peñarol players spent a few days in jail. IMO, the Uruguayan federation has not tried hard enough to stamp out this behavior, and that only reinforces the reputation Uruguayan soccer players have for being thugs on, and now, off the field. If Uruguay loses to Mexico in the 3rd place game on Saturday, there will probably be another dust-up. Sad. Pathetic. Uruguay was once a great footballing nation, but can't seem to reconcile their past with the present.

I just realized I'm still using "Soy Manya!" So, I guess I will be changing my blog name to "Soy United!" since Manya is the nickname for Peñarol. Some habits die hard.

Vamos United! U-S-A!

Posted by: Soy Manya! | July 12, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"Uruguay: The Mexico of South America"

FYP, Lifton

Posted by: d, dc | July 12, 2007 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Rosada - "Maybe the Uruguayan teams are disappointed because they've actually won tournaments"

When? 1950? Is that really pertinent?

Posted by: Tim | July 12, 2007 10:42 AM

Tim, I think Copa America 1995, hosted by Uruguay, was the last time the senior squad won a tournament.

Posted by: Soy United! | July 12, 2007 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I watched the whole melee after the game, and if I was Bradley I would have seriously tried to level any Uruguayan player because they were so pathetic in losing, talk a lot of garbage, and tried to sucker punch. Bradley is lucky that Rongen got in his face to calm him down. I beginning to believe the stereostype that South American players are a bunch of cry babies. Please tell them to grow a pair balls, and move on. As for DC United, they should be embarrased, as well as all the other MLS teams who lost. Obviously, none of the MLS teams take the OSOC seriously. That is a shame. I think any chance to win a piece of hardware should be an incentive to field a somewhat decent lineup. I think the lack of depth on MLS rosters is very troubling.

Posted by: DC United Fan | July 12, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Lifton - Is Uruguay as nice of a country as Portugal is? I'll have to go sometime. Let's not make generalizations based off of a couple of teenagers.

Posted by: London Dan | July 12, 2007 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"Is Uruguay as nice of a country as Portugal is? I'll have to go sometime. Let's not make generalizations based off of a couple of teenagers."

Great country...beautiful beaches...a trip to Argentina and Uruguay is well worth the 12 hour flight.

Posted by: mcn107 | July 12, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

DC United Fan - I think it's the fact that calendar is quite full in July/August. I don't think it's a coincidence that Galaxy, Dynamo, and United all lost in the Open Cup. They're all participating in SuperLiga. And DC has Copa Sudamericana coming up in September.

Disappointed about the loss and upset about the caliber/heart of the reserves maybe, but embarassed? I don't think so.

Posted by: DE | July 12, 2007 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"The cheapshot on Bradley by #7 comes at the 1:07 mark in the you tube countdown."

Bradley was in the mixer mouthing off before 1:07. After the 1:07 incident he turns his back and appears to walk away. When we next see him, he's surrounded by the subs and runs around them looking for a Uruguayan before Rongen grabs him.

You can get a card after the whistle, right? The way this ref was dealing them out should be a warning not to mix it up after the match.

I stand by my statements and will add that if Bradley doesn't control his temper, he will quickly become a liability - like John Harkes.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 12, 2007 11:45 AM | Report abuse

SoyManya. You're right, I made too many excuses for Uruguay. Punching, etc. is not right (as opposed to complaining) and some of the fights involving Pe~arol mostly have been regretable (I don't recall any major issues with the national team though).

I was a bit offended by the commentators though, generalizing about bad sportsmanship in South America (they probably think Mexico is in South America as well). It just sounded snobbish and a tad bit racist. Uruguayans play dirty but Germans go hard at the ball, Simeone was at fault for getting Beckham kicked out, and C. Ronaldo the same for getting Rooney kicked out. These stereotypes really don't help. Teams these days try to get advantages every way they can.

I have to say though, that the US play at all levels is much cleaner than that from just about any other country with a longer futbol tradition (be it from Europe or South America).

Posted by: JP | July 12, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

London Dan, I doubt Lifton's been to Uruguay. But, if he has I'll bet he likes Portugal more--the girls are hairier in Portugal!

Lifton, should we make assumptions about all lanky geeks based on you? Give it a rest!

Posted by: Soy United! | July 12, 2007 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Messi is a magician, but I have a hard time respecting him after his "Hand of God" recreation in Barca's penulimate game this year.

Posted by: XtianDC | July 12, 2007 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Goff, I believe that the "state highway 30" in your report is actually U.S. Route 30, which runs from Atlantic City, NJ to Astoria, OR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_30).

Posted by: Go Penn State! | July 12, 2007 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Interesting tidbit from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_FIFA_U-20_World_Cup): "'National Soccer Stadium' is the temporary name of the BMO Field during this tournament, as FIFA prohibits sponsorship of stadia unless the stadium sponsor is also an official FIFA sponsor."

Posted by: Go Penn State! | July 12, 2007 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone find something out about the yellow card situations for the next U-20 game? Will we have players suspended for the quaterfinal against Austria? I tried to find something on the FIFA website and came up empty (no surprise there, really).

Posted by: Dsmac | July 12, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse


I was all set to drive up to the game last night, but the thunderstorms in the afternoon knocked out our power. >:

Posted by: odessa steps magazine | July 12, 2007 12:15 PM | Report abuse

JP, there's a huge difference between being hard and being dirty. Germany and Italy are countries that are very hard in terms of winning balls, Uruguay was just dirty. If you noticed during the game, they won very few clean, hard tackles. They stomped on Altidore's foot in the first half during a set piece, they hurt Altidore in the second with an unwinnable challenge, and the same #7 who gave a cheap shot to bradley after the game also gave the cheap shot elbow/punch to szetela in the middle of the game. I'm sure none of those qualify as dirty. Just as Leonardo's elbow to Tab Ramos wasn't dirty in the '94 Brazil-US match. And there's no way you can blame Rivaldo for drawing a red card against Turkey in the 2002 WC. Please, these nations have built their reputation as poor sportsmans, and this only reinforces it.

Posted by: gola | July 12, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

London Dan, many people often refer to Uruguay as the "Switzerland or South America". I'm not sure if this is due to the financial status of the country, or because of its' natural beauty...maybe both.

Posted by: Dave the Wave | July 12, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Soy United! | July 12, 2007 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"I do think it's weird that the host team can choose to play at a different field just because they want to."

For years DC United has used the Soccerplex in Germantown for USOC matches. The smaller crowds do not warrant using RFK, and it is a nice way to bring the game to a different segment of the local market.

Posted by: Go Penn State! | July 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Random aside:

Evening Times Reports Celtics interest in Adu (RSL), Joseph (REVS), and Wolyniec (NYRB)

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/display.var.1539198.0.capone_bids_to_win_deal_at_celts.php

Didn't expect Woly to get interest. Kinda wacky. Wonder if he will get an offer and if NYRB will let him go?

Posted by: P | July 12, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

DC got out of the game what they put into it. Boswell looked really sharp (the only player on the field who I thought outclassed anyone) and McTavish was good for his half. Mediate was solid in the back, I think he is better as a right back than Simms. Burch was good till the 70+ minute when he got tired and some of his crossfield balls went to no one. The midfield was alright, Simms and B. Carrol were the only midfielders with good control and the forwards were borderline worthless.

Posted by: dtd | July 12, 2007 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"Any update on Altidore and Seitz?"

In the post-game quotes on ussoccer.com, Rongen states that Seitz has a very deep thigh contusion with heavy swelling, so that's why he didn't play.

Josmer doesn't mention anything in regards to his injury, so maybe it was minor.

Posted by: Dave the Wave | July 12, 2007 12:46 PM | Report abuse

since goffer is awol.... this is off-topic, but since it's nearly beckham day, what the heck, I'll start the coverage overkill:
apparently he's sold a quarter million jerseys already for the LA Gals.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL1289419220070712

and Pele's take:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2007/07/12/2007-07-12_pele_beckham_better_win-1.html

Posted by: sf59 | July 12, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm AWOL? Call out the search dogs!

Posted by: Goff | July 12, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Re: Article on Josmer:

http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20070712&content_id=104948&vkey=news_mls&fext=.jsp

Looks like he'll be fine.


I must admit, I expected more from Ferrari last night. Adu disappeared from the 15 minute mark until the 80th minute...Perk made one mistake and that was the uruguian goal. Zizzo looked gas'd when he came out!

Hopefully we all recover for Saturday.

--strago

Posted by: strago | July 12, 2007 1:23 PM | Report abuse

goffer! you're back! it seems like you've never left. :) just kidding with the awol comment. it's just withdrawals from not having new news every hour on the hour! :)

Posted by: sf59 | July 12, 2007 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Following up on the question of moving the location of last night's open cup match...

Harrisburg actually plays on a sub-par multipurpose grass field. When we're not playing, there's a semi-pro football team that plays on the field and there's also a baseball diamond in the corner. I was hoping they would have played the match at a local college, but I don't think anybody had the capacity needed. We could have played at Hersheypark Stadium (they've hosted Olympic qualifiers before), but I don't know if it was available.

Posted by: stevo | July 12, 2007 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I was wondering why they didn't play at Messiah College myself. It has great karma for South Central PA soccer with all the Div 3 championship teams.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | July 12, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Perk looked very shaky last night. He didn't make any spectacular saves, he merely did what any competent keeper should be expected to do, but then he dropped the ball on the goal (no way Seitz lets that get away from him) and Perk generally was shaky controlling his box. Seitz is huge and commands his box, and it reflects in how the defense was scrambling so much for some of the loose balls/crosses which usually would've been claimed with authority by Seitz. Let's hope he's a fast healer.

Posted by: G-Dub | July 12, 2007 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Agree with the comments on both Perk looking shaky and being disappointed with Ferrari. It's funny that a lot of people are expecting big things from this Ferrari kid, yet how many people have actually seen him play? Interesting point is all.

DC United's loss is not a big deal. All that it means is that MLS teams really have pathetic depth, which is no surprise to anyone. So what if DC just played its reserves, EPL teams do it all the time for Cup competitions. See Arsenal essentially playing a youth team this past season.

Posted by: Luis | July 12, 2007 2:04 PM | Report abuse

The US Open Cup means nothing. I am glad that DC United is are out so that they can focus on the games that matter.

Argentina is one of the most entertaining teams to watch in the world. I cannot wait until Sunday. Argentina v. Brazil is a priceless matchup.

As for the US U-20 game, glad they won. too bad for the scrum after the match. Not going to be too hard on either side, they are still kids and kids make stupid mistakes, do stupid things they regret latter on.

Posted by: BT | July 12, 2007 2:10 PM | Report abuse

So European teams don't play dirty? How about Italy vs. Maradona in 82 (touched the ball and got fouled), elbow to Luis Enrique in 94 (broke his nose, no call), elbow on McBride in 06; Germany vs. Hungary in 54 (both games), Germany vs. Croatia in 98, Schumacher knocking two teeth out of Battiston in 82, Beckham stomp on Simeone, Rooney kick in the groin agains Portugal, Zidane's headbutt, Boulahrouz vs. Portugal in 06, Rijkaard spitting on Voller in 90. Just a few examples. They are as dirty as South American teams. All dirtier than the way the US plays.

Posted by: JP | July 12, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Luis. DCU's loss is really a reflection of the size of the native talent pool, as well as the salary structure in place for the lower half of MLS rosters. At the bottom half of the depth chart, they are fairly equal with USL1+2 teams. More good US talent and more money to pay for it will unlevel the playing field. Until development contracts become more lucrative than starting USL1+2 contracts this will continue to happen.

When DCU loses by playing scrubs in SuperLiga I'll be concerned, but in the Open Cup I welcome it. Maybe NYRB can win the Open Cup this year so that Juan will have something to cheer about.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | July 12, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

"Beckham stomp on Simeone"

Simeone stepped on Beckham and then dove when Beckham's foot grazed him. For all his skill, Becks' accuracy was terrible on that kick.

Justice prevailed in the semis when, after his swan dive in the box, Ariel Ortega stood up and grazed Van der Saar's chin with the top of his head and was ejected after the Dutch keeper feigned death. We all know how that match ended.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 12, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

People forget how little separates D2 or D3 teams and reserves in MLS. Even Simms, now an experienced MLS player, was signed from an A-League team. DeRoux played at a Community College. Addlery was also signed from a USL team and J. Carroll was playing in the PDL when drafted. These players aren't exactly far removed from playing for Harrisburg.

Posted by: G-Dub | July 12, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

London Dan, many people often refer to Uruguay as the "Switzerland or South America". I'm not sure if this is due to the financial status of the country, or because of its' natural beauty...maybe both.

Posted by: Dave the Wave | July 12, 2007 12:19 PM

My guess, Dave the Wave, is that it's for the banking sector's murky rules. The country is as flat as a pancake, thus the main exports are beef, wool, leather, lamb, and over-hyped soccer cry-babies (Recoba). There are beautiful beaches with beautiful women, tho...

Posted by: Soy United! | July 12, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

give me a break, the suburbanites from the the USMNT side would barely know how to form a fist so they should stop acting like celebrated frat boys and give up tough guy posturing.

Posted by: rosado | July 12, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

As I haven't seen many games this year I can't attest to the norm; however Soehn and staff seemed disinterested most of the game. Clearly there would/should have been some visual discontent as they viewed their 'B' team getting shut down by the part-time Islanders.

It seems apparent that the trend will be to in effect 'opt out' of the Lamar Cup because in the end 100,000 clams does not go that far when weighed against the extra travel and play.
The field in Harrisburg would not have been more tragic as a dirt baseball diamond keeps the worst field in the league status.

Posted by: Lemoyne | July 12, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, i'd take on bocanegra any day, that whimp. Not to mention Gooch. Bunch of pansies.

Posted by: Hacksaw | July 12, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

So if they raise the USOC pot significantly from 100,000 clams, in an effort to get MLS teams to put in their regulars, and it works, will we look back in nostalgia at these good old days when the minor league teams could win the thing?

Posted by: gringo | July 12, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait until Brazil takes back Uruguay and annexes it back into Brazil. Then we won't have to worry about Uruguayan hacks, and everyone in Montevideo can root for their new home country Brazil and be winners again.

Posted by: Brendan | July 12, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

"nostalgia at these good old days when the minor league teams could win the thing?"

I remember when Bethlehem Steel took on David Beckham and the Los Angeles Galaxy and beat the crap out of those latte-sipping, electric car-driving, hair-gel-wearing, wrist-kissing metrosexual pansies.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 12, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of Uruguay's sporting character, does anyone remember the 2-match playoff into the 2002 World Cup, when the Aussie team landed in Montevideo, and a local punched an Aussie player in the face at the baggage claim? Lotsa class down there!

Posted by: Bill in Md. | July 12, 2007 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Messi would score 3 goals a game in the MLS? Wow. Also, classic by Bradley--US 2, you 1.

Posted by: jj | July 12, 2007 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"I can't wait until Brazil takes back Uruguay ..."

and then claims to be 7-time World Cup winners.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 8:01 PM | Report abuse

horrible penalty call against mexico. great goal by heinz.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 12, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

horrible penalty call against mexico. great goal by heinz.

robbie rogers was phenomenal. adu back to earth. nice corners though.

bradley should have finished that earlier shot.

akpan is horrible.

Altidore needs to return.

we were dominated for most of second half. i think they had possesion about 90% till they scored. passing was horrible. played our best in overtime. uruguays coach was horrible. what was he thinking with his subs.

Posted by: castroviejo | July 12, 2007 8:11 PM | Report abuse

From SG's article-

"With the unmistakable scent of nearby farms saturating the thick air, the players strolled onto an artificial turf football field, complete with uprights and yard marks, to the sounds of Huey Lewis and Toto."

Holy Smoke! United let down Huey Lewis AND Toto. This is worse than previously advertised. Someone needs to bring an iPod full of classic 70's and 80's rock into the DC United clubhouse and set things straight with the boys.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: JayRockers! | July 12, 2007 8:12 PM | Report abuse

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