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U.S. Roster Update

Just got word that the U.S. national team roster for the Brazil friendly on Sept. 9 will not be unveiled until after the coaching staff is able to assess the player pool following this weekend's club matches in Europe and MLS.

This gives you time to speculate. And I know you like to speculate. Let's assume 20 players are called in. Who makes the list?

By Steve Goff  |  August 30, 2007; 3:04 PM ET
Categories:  U.S. men's national team  
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thanks for the update (now I can stop the every 15 minute checks of ussoccer.com)

Posted by: emanon | August 30, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

SG,

What kind of team can we expect? Gold Cup or Cpoa America?

Posted by: sonny | August 30, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey Goff:

You heard anything about that rumor of Danny Szetela possibly signing with Italian Serie B side Bresci? Ives has a post about it.

Not that you should care what Ives posts... :-)

Posted by: Juan-John | August 30, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Why do people keep asking you to respond to every rumor they hear? I'll answer this one for you . . .

"When I hear something of substance, I will share it. I promise. I don't withhold information."

Posted by: Poor Goff | August 30, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I would hope/bet that it is a US-based squad. Jozy -has- to be on this, right?

Posted by: RK | August 30, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

What I *really* want to see is Jozy Altidore getting significant time. There is simply no rational explanation why he would not be called up to play significant minutes. Our current player pool does not include one single dangerous forward, JA will be 20 by the next world cup, so what would be the argument for *not* calling him up? Each of these high-profile matches in which he does not play is a wasted opportunity for him to get precious minutes against top-notch competition.

Posted by: Future is Now | August 30, 2007 3:55 PM | Report abuse

And give Landon a rest -- anyone playing on that team needs it.

Posted by: RK | August 30, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Goff,
If this is true, then the coaching staff won't announce a roster until Monday of next week, which will give the team six days to prepare for Brazil.
What is the thinking behind this? Why would they want to see this weekend matches first, and how much of a bearing could or should those matches have?
Maybe I'm impatient, but this seems silly to me.

Thanks!

Posted by: zj | August 30, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Speculation:
GK: Howard, Hanneman
DF: Cherundolo, Bocanegra, Onyewu, Bornstein, Spector, Parkhurst

MD: Beasley, Donovan, Convey, Bradley, Feilhaber, Clark, Mastroeni, Adu

FW: Johnson, Ching, Rolfe, Altidore

It's either that, or Bradley takes a bunch of scrubs so that after we lose 8-0, he can use the excuse that he wanted to bleed the young ones some for experience's sake

Posted by: TCompton | August 30, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Hey Goff,

I know this is off topic, but I nearly got ill last night watching the RSL game played on turf with UTAH football lines on the field. It is horrible to watch and maybe even worse to play on....

I'd like to see an analysis of injuries broken down by teams that play on turf at home vs. those that play on real grass...

I know everyone says that it's worse and the ball sure bounces funny, but would concrete numbers supporting these claims get Toronto and others to get real grass?

Posted by: off-topic | August 30, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Since we're speculating (and I have nothing to do for the next hour):

GK: Hahnemann, Cannon
DF: Bocanegra, Conrad, Demerit, Bornstein, Cherundolo, Spector, Onyewu (Pearce if Onyewu makes a move)
MF: Feilhaber, Clark, M. Bradley, Dempsey, Beasley, Donovan, Adu
FW: Johnson, Ching, K. Hill, Altidore*

*If Altidore's called up, I don't foresee him playing.

Posted by: B.A. | August 30, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Mastroeni. Sorry.

Posted by: B.A. | August 30, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

We should roll out this back 4 against the Samba Boys...

Burns---Balboa---Agoos---Regis

Posted by: Vinny Bag of Doughnuts | August 30, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I know everyone says that it's worse and the ball sure bounces funny, but would concrete numbers supporting these claims get Toronto and others to get real grass?

Posted by: off-topic | August 30, 2007 04:00 PM
_________________________________________

I guess today's the day for nostalgia. I recall the observations of Tug McGraw, a major league pitcher before he had a second career as Faith Hill's father-in-law. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tug_mcgraw and scroll down to "Comments".

Posted by: Section 410 | August 30, 2007 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Please Please Please ... let Michael Bradley be left OFF the roster. This guy is out of his depth and clearly this is just an example of nepotism.

Posted by: Madrid | August 30, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd agree that after the punishment of the Superliga final, Donovan needs a rest. Same with the rest of the Gals.

Twenty, off the top of my head:

Howard
Guzan
Gooch
Negra
Simek
Spector
DeMerit
Clark
Ching
Conrad
Spector
Simek
Bornstein
Altidore
Mastroeni
Bradley

... and that's it. Just 16. Can'teven do it. I have too many doubts. Ralston? Twellman? *Johnson*? On the other hand, I have no doubts that Altidore will get the cap.

Outside shots:
Maurice Edu!
Kamani Hill!
Jose Burciaga Jr.!
Feilhaber-- he's only just got his visa straightened out. I think his performance this weekend will determine whether he can spare the time away from his time to held the MNT defeat Brazil, or maybe they've already decided that he should stay with his new club.
Davies-- just cause they're trying to blood him a bit.
Hahnemann-- Reading need him more than we do.
Adu-- he would get the callup if his club situation weren't so volatile right now.
Neven Subotic, anybody?


I just don't know. I'll wait and see.

Posted by: QJA | August 30, 2007 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Forgot Heath Pearce and DaMarcus Beasley. Pearce is the blood and guts of his club, I don't see him leaving. Beasley is a possibility because the 'Gers squad is deep this year.

Posted by: QJA | August 30, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Eh, Califf. I'm just thinking of names now.

Posted by: QJA | August 30, 2007 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Why do people keep asking you to respond to every rumor they hear? I'll answer this one for you . . .

'When I hear something of substance, I will share it. I promise. I don't withhold information.'"

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Message received, Goff's mom. :-)

Posted by: Juan-John | August 30, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT:

Am I the only one who thinks that Sunil Gulati is working towards firing Bob Bradley? Take a look at the evidence.

Exhibit A:

He sets up the US at Copa America with the stated objective that this was not the tournament they needed to win, thus guaranteeing him a roster full of international neophytes and also-rans (Eddie Gaven - seriously?). This, in the middle of a busy MLS season. The USA was given a recipe for failure and Bradley was hired as the chef.

Exhibit B;

Initially lining up THREE consecutive AWAY matches against European opponents. The USA's futility in Europe is well-documented. So why add to this psychological stigma AND add guaranteed losses to Bradley's resume? Now, they've added BRAZIL to the schedule? What's next, England at Wembley or Italy at San Siro?

Exhibit C:

Why set up a secret meeting with an out-of-work European Manager (Fabio Capello) in a London hotel room to discuss national team matters WITH your national team coach. That is EXTREMELY suspicious and offensive (if you're Bradley). You're basically sending the message that we can't beat European teams with our current coach.

Exhibit D:

Gulati never wanted Bradley. While a decent MLS coach, he was never close to matching that job description that Sunil sent out after the World Cup. When Klinsmann pulled out, Sunil needed SOMEONE. He gave Bradley an interim tag and hoped to find someone else by May. But then the USA started winning and then the pressure mounted for him to hire Bradley full-time. So he did.

NOW, if you were Sunil and felt stuck with Bradley, what subtle approach would you take to get rid of him?

I think Exhibits A through D are the writing on the wall. If all goes to plan, the USA will go 0 for 3 this autumn (very likely given the opponents) and there may be some dissent with the team, especially if he insists on M Bradley in midfield and Bornstein at left back (Heath Pearce, where are you?)

Posted by: Bristol | August 30, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Re: off-topic

"I'd like to see an analysis of injuries broken down by teams that play on turf at home vs. those that play on real grass..."

Actually, I've seen studies that show injuries are not higher on FieldTurf than natural grass. (Sorry I couldn't find any clear, up to date links for that).

I think time will tell - although FieldTurf is so, so much better than AstroTurf. I do think it's kind of interesting that Becks went on and on about how he didn't want to get hurt on FieldTurf, then he goes and sprains his knee on the real stuff.

I don't like FieldTurf in MLS, but not necessarily for safety reasons. I like the look and smoother play on grass.

Posted by: Kev | August 30, 2007 4:34 PM | Report abuse

I agree with the earlier post, what are the coaches waiting for? It seems strange to me that they would need one more weekend of games to evaluate the player pool. I wonder if they are waiting on one or two players in particular, like maybe to see if Adu gets some time at Benfica, or to see if Feilhaber gets in at Derby.

Posted by: Metzeng | August 30, 2007 4:36 PM | Report abuse

what about Burch? seriously

Posted by: Pino | August 30, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"If this is true, then the coaching staff won't announce a roster until Monday of next week, which will give the team six days to prepare for Brazil.
What is the thinking behind this? Why would they want to see this weekend matches first, and how much of a bearing could or should those matches have?
Maybe I'm impatient, but this seems silly to me."
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Most of the players have already been told they're being called in. The USSF is not going to announce a partial roster, so they'll wait until the final slots are filled. The delay in the announcement won't affect preparation.

This is an international fixture date and Euro players are available. The U.S. will field a very strong team -- well, they better. You saw Brazil's roster, right?

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

1. Eric Wynalda
2. Cobi Jones
3. Earnie Stewart
4. Marcelo Balboa
5. Preki
6. Thomas Dooley
7. Tab Ramos
8. Tony Meola
9. Claudio Reyna
10. John Harkes
11. Mike Burns
12. Kasey Keller
13. Alexi Lalas
14. Roy Wegerle
15. Jeff Agoos
16. Paul Caligiuri
17. Eddie Gaven

Posted by: Matty B | August 30, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Your Exhibit C is the main reason that I DON'T think Bradley will be fired. Why would Gulati have Bradley in the room with him and Capello if he's just going to fire Bradley a few months later?

Posted by: Shatz | August 30, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Starters:
G - Howard
D - Conrad
D - Onyewu (goodness knows why)
D - Pearce
D - Cherundolo
M - Feilhaber
M - Clark
M - Adu
M - Beasley (just don't let him shoot)
F - Altidore
F - Johnson

BENCH:

G - Seitz
D - Bocanegra (yikes)
D - Burciaga (It's about time)
D - Bornstein (YIKES!)
M - Mastroeni
M - Arturo Alvarez (I know, I know, but he's had some brilliant strikes this year)
F - Ching
F - Hill

Posted by: Madrid | August 30, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse


Initially lining up THREE consecutive AWAY matches against European opponents. The USA's futility in Europe is well-documented. So why add to this psychological stigma AND add guaranteed losses to Bradley's resume? Now, they've added BRAZIL to the schedule? What's next, England at Wembley or Italy at San Siro?"
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The idea is to play strong competition in difficult environments and learn and grow from it. Would you prefer more games with Guatemala in Frisco, TX?


"Why set up a secret meeting with an out-of-work European Manager (Fabio Capello) in a London hotel room to discuss national team matters WITH your national team coach. That is EXTREMELY suspicious and offensive (if you're Bradley). You're basically sending the message that we can't beat European teams with our current coach."

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Because the USSF wants Capello to become the technical director overseeing development at all levels. This is a person who will work closely with the head coach of the senior national team. Thus, Bradley was with Gulati for the meeting with Capello.

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Bring in a world-renown coach to meet with your the current, the-boss-didn't-wanna-hire-me leftover to discuss strategy. That reeks!!!! Maybe we can bring Alex Ferguson over to discuss formations with Bob.

Posted by: Davidson | August 30, 2007 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, if you were Sunil and WANTED to fire Bradley but didn't want to deal with all the political backlash of firing an American coach for a foreign one, how would you go about in doing it?

If this is what he's doing, it's BRILLIANT.

Of course, unless he hires Tom Soehn.

Posted by: Bristol | August 30, 2007 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Bring in a world-renown coach to meet with your the current, the-boss-didn't-wanna-hire-me leftover to discuss strategy. That reeks!!!! Maybe we can bring Alex Ferguson over to discuss formations with Bob"
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jesus, i give up! is anyone paying attention out there? bradley is the coach. he will remain the coach for quite some time. as far as we know, capello is a candidate for the tech director job. the tech director will work closely with the national team coach to develop talent on all levels of american soccer. it's called vertical integration.

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 4:57 PM | Report abuse

How about a 4-3-2-1 with:

Howard

Onyewu - Demerit - Bocanegra - Spector

Convey - Donovan - Feilhaber

Beasley - Dempsey

Ching

Subs: Guzan, Bornstein, Cherundolo, Mastroeni, Adu, Clark, Bradley,
Altidore, Johnson

Posted by: Aaron | August 30, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, if you were Sunil and WANTED to fire Bradley but didn't want to deal with all the political backlash of firing an American coach for a foreign one, how would you go about in doing it?

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Political backlash of firing an American coach? What are you talking about?

Bradley is the coach. He won the only thing that mattered to the USSF this summer -- the Gold Cup. Why would they fire him?

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 5:02 PM | Report abuse

FYI, folks, "Bristol", "Davidson" and "Madrid" have almost identical IP addresses.

Just so you know...

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

FYI, folks, "Bristol", "Davidson" and "Madrid" have almost identical IP addresses.

Just so you know...
--------------------

i think that is self-evident.

Reenactment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtWsLgtSZso
Goff=JP Prewitt
Bristol/davidson/madrid= zoolander

Posted by: Matty B | August 30, 2007 5:14 PM | Report abuse

off topic:

If you remember, ask your question again around the end of May. I may be writing my thesis on that topic, well, it will be more specific to knee and/or ankle injuries on turf vs. grass.

Posted by: Jenny | August 30, 2007 5:16 PM | Report abuse

my wish list...

GK: Howard (starter), Guzan
[play howard 90 minutes, and give a young guy some experience with the national team]

DF: Starters...Bornstein, Cochrane, Boca, Burciaga...Bench...Gooch, Parkhurst.

[give the MLS guys a run. Our problem last WC was a lake of depth at the back. Cochrane and Burciaga are playing well, and they could be good 2010 guys. I want either Boca or Gooch, but not both at this point.]

MD: starters Beasley, Feilhaber, Clark, Bradley (in a box with first two at top)...bench Mastro, Kljestan, Arnaud

[go young, and reward MLS guys. Rest Donovan, Convey, and Dempsey.]

FW: Starters, Altidore, Ching, Bench Johnson, Rolfe

[altidore's coming out party. Ching can lay balls off for him as the target guy.]

Posted by: jj | August 30, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Off Topic question/suggestion for you Goff:

Back during the WC I wrote to the other guys at SI, ESPN, and FSC to try to start a movement to redo the US Soccer logo. I got nowhere. I just can't stand the US logo.
http://www.danablankenhorn.com/images/ussoccer_logo_1.jpg
I mean look at it. It looks like some sort of crappy clip art a local rec-league would use for their summer league t-shirts. The pseudo-flame ball design. The boring borders. It's just bad. PLEASE GOFF, HELP ME CHANGE THIS. We need something classier. Something more inspiring. Something you want to kiss after you score a goal.

Posted by: Matty B | August 30, 2007 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I think that Twellman, Reis, Christman, and Ralston need to be called up. Heck, call up every American on the Revolution roster, please.

Posted by: RK | August 30, 2007 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Forgive me if I'm missing something or just acting like a fan, but why hasn't Perkins gotten more attention from Bradley? I know he doesn't have the best GA average in the league or anything, but it's pretty good, especially considering the lack of defense at the beginning of the season. And I think there's still unlocked potential that the US coaching staff and high level of international play could bring out.

I'm not saying he's gonna take minutes from Howard, but is Brad Guzan really that much better? I'd love to see Troy get a chance to prove himself in international play (not against Brazil, natch) in the future.

Posted by: DCBird | August 30, 2007 5:31 PM | Report abuse

OT, but responding to speculation a few threads ago about where the 8th team wouod be for WUSA re-launch --

from San Diego Union-Tribune 8/17/07

"The rights to the eighth team was held by an entity called Soccer Initiative LLC, which the Union-Tribune later identified as Padres owner John Moores. Soccer Initiative LLC was supposed to designate a city by March or April, and San Diego was considered a leading candidate.

The eight charter owners, Antonucci said, signed letters of intent and made a "modest initial capital payment" to retain territorial rights.

"We're still in discussion with Soccer Initiative LLC," Antonucci said. "The situation continues to evolve. We're still engaged with them, so I wouldn't rule them out."

In the meantime, several other cities have shown interest in a franchise, including San Jose, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Rochester, N.Y., Vancouver, British Columbia, and Virginia Beach, Va.

"We continue to look at San Diego as a market," Antonucci said, "but we don't have any new developments to report."

Posted by: WNT fan | August 30, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

as for the meeting with Capello...if it was to sandbag Bradley, and he was there, why would someone like Capello then take the job? seriously, folks, it's not like this is a plum position internationally. if you were asked to meet with a CEO and a manager, and did it in good faith, and then the CEO fired the manager and offered you the job, why would you take it, knowing that this is how the CEO acted?

reality, people, reality.

Posted by: northzax | August 30, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

"...have almost identical IP addresses."

Just playing devil's technologist... Depending on the ISP that doesn't mean much. You'd have to do a lookup to see where they come from. In the olden AOL days, all AOL users used to show up as coming from a relatively small pool of ip's due to all of their internal proxying/caching/spidering technology. It would piss off all the early web advertisers because they couldn't personalize placements without cookies.

Also, my coworker and I both read your blog religiously, but would also have very similar ip addy's.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | August 30, 2007 5:41 PM | Report abuse

re:Altidore

Does anyone know the details of the Olympic eligibility rules? I'm trying to remember if a full national team cap takes away eligibility unless you use a Wild Card. I know you require a Wild Card if you have appeared in a previous Olympics yet are still underage.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | August 30, 2007 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The US U17's lost to Germany 2-1

IN YOUR FACE GOFF! :)

Posted by: Donkey King | August 30, 2007 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I am going to go with a roster weighted more towards MLS players since the US will play two more games in Europe this year.

Starters:
G - Howard
CB - Parkhurst
CB - DeMerit
LB - Bornstein
RB - Simek

RM - Dempsey
CM - Clark
CM - Donovan
LM - Beasley

2F - Altidore
1F - Ching

BENCH:

G - Guzan
D - Conrad
D - Onyewu
D - Moor

D/M - Bocanegra (he can play defensive mid)
M - Mastroeni
M - Arturo Alvarez

F - Johnson
F - Rolf

-- Matt L

Posted by: Matt L | August 30, 2007 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know the details of the Olympic eligibility rules? I'm trying to remember if a full national team cap takes away eligibility unless you use a Wild Card. I know you require a Wild Card if you have appeared in a previous Olympics yet are still underage.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | August 30, 2007 05:47 PM
_________________________________________

If it's anything like the last several Olympiads, the "wild cards" deal with the players' age (i.e., being over 23); senior national team experience as such has nothing to do with it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_Summer_Olympics).

Posted by: Section 410 | August 30, 2007 5:55 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, here are how the IP addresses popped up on this thread:

Bristol 128.231.88.4
Davidson 128.231.88.5
Madrid 128.231.88.4
Bristol 128.231.88.7
Madrid 128.231.88.7

Carry on...

Posted by: Goff | August 30, 2007 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Search results for: 128.231.88.7


OrgName: National Institutes of Health
OrgID: NIH
Address: 9000 Rockville Pike
City: Bethesda
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20892
Country: US

NetRange: 128.231.0.0 - 128.231.255.255
CIDR: 128.231.0.0/16
NetName: NIHNET-1
NetHandle: NET-128-231-0-0-1
Parent: NET-128-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NS.NIH.GOV
NameServer: NS2.NIH.GOV
NameServer: NS3.NIH.GOV

Someone from the NIH is playing games.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 30, 2007 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Off-Topic (and possibly stupid), I know, but:

A. Why no Thursday-night MLS game today on ESPN?

B. Why would MLS/ABC schedule the MLS Cup for NOON Eastern, instead of maybe slightly more prime-time or even later afternoon?

Posted by: Juan-John | August 30, 2007 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Oh Bristol... I thought someone who works at NIH would be a little bit more intelligent... Maybe an intern? Please stop spamming the forum with your dribble.

Posted by: Gburg | August 30, 2007 7:20 PM | Report abuse

Stallone
Caine
Pele
Twellman
Beasley
Donovan
Howard (plays the field)
Convey
Bocanegra
Dempsey
Simek

They give the ball to Pele, who dribbles the entire defense, only to leave a sitter for Beasley, who clangs it off the bar. The rebounds comes to Twellman, who misses but is fouled in the area. Donovan skies the PK, and the bad guys cart the allies back to the POW camp.

Posted by: New England Guy | August 30, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Oh snap!

Posted by: DCAustinite | August 30, 2007 7:50 PM | Report abuse

drivel?

Posted by: Matty B | August 30, 2007 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Dribbly drivel?

Posted by: viv | August 30, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

NEG: Hello! Pele is already capped, we would be forced to use Santiago Munez in your lineup. come on, the first american to play for real madrid...

Posted by: northzax | August 30, 2007 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I honestly don't care who else is on this team but if Altidore isn't called up we are wasting our time. Seriously. Cancel the match if they refuse to call up Altidore.

I would also be interested to see Adu as he teams up well with Altidore and actually performs on the national level.

Posted by: papa bear | August 30, 2007 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Search results for: 128.231.88.7

OrgName: National Institutes of Health
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Hey! All you NIH postdocs. Get of the blog or I'm telling Gottesman!

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | August 30, 2007 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Like the idea of bringing in both Altidore and Alvarez.

Just a thought--is Bornstein getting all the caps so he meets 75 % cap threshhold to get permit to play in England next year?

Posted by: lubs | August 30, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Mr Goff, Thanks for the specific IP's.

"These are not the droids I am looking for...You can go about your business... Move along."

Posted by: regular poster | August 30, 2007 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Goff:

Thanks for that article about the upcoming college soccer season.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083001836.html

Just got back from Summers, where every single TV was showing either NFL pre-season or college pigskin football.

Posted by: Juan-John | August 30, 2007 11:49 PM | Report abuse

After last night, I think Joe Cannon merits a call up. (I know, he's got an extreme case of fixture congestion right now, but that was a world class performance last night, in a cup final.)

Posted by: JJH | August 31, 2007 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Burciaga is a below average MLS defender. He would get eaten alive at the international level.

Posted by: Andrew | August 31, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Section 410, the funny part to me is McGraw's first quote from his Wikipedia page: "Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish Whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste." Does that sound familiar to any soccer fans? It might because George Best said it first, and more succinctly: "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars - the rest I just squandered."

Posted by: JJH | August 31, 2007 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Is this going to be on ESPN or ESPN2 or Univision? Please don't tell me it will be on FSC.

Posted by: Mike | August 31, 2007 2:03 AM | Report abuse

Off-Topic (and possibly stupid), I know, but:

A. Why no Thursday-night MLS game today on ESPN?

B. Why would MLS/ABC schedule the MLS Cup for NOON Eastern, instead of maybe slightly more prime-time or even later afternoon?

Posted by: Juan-John | August 30, 2007 07:00 PM
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A.) Because the suits at BSPN are dead convinced this world needs more coverage of 45-0 college football games between a good team and cannon fodder that will only draw school loyalists and guys anxiously watching the point spread to see if they get to keep their paycheck or just direct deposit it to their local bookie.

B.) Because like it or not, the MLS Cup will be up against the ratings behemoth that is the NFL, and logic says that any later in the day and the ratings will be about equal to Paul Gardner's IQ. At least this way they are up against pregame shows, and if the Final is compelling perhaps they can hang on to some casual viewers until the game is over.

As a side note, there are 12(!) early games (1:00pm EST starts) that day, including Washington @ Dallas, Cleveland @ Baltimore and Kansas City @ Indianapolis. Ouch! As for prime time, the NFL game is Chicago @ Seattle in a playoff rematch, which likely would be very stiff ratings competition. With only two 4:00pm games (Rams @ 49ers and Giants @ Lions), my personal opinion is that a late afternoon start would have been a better option, but since Don Garber hasn't seen fit to give me a say in the matter, I guess that my opinion and a $1.50 will get me a cup of coffee and not much else...

Posted by: Throwin | August 31, 2007 3:00 AM | Report abuse

So, I was looking on USSoccer.com's 2007 Mens roster and I saw Cory Gibbs' name. What happened to him. He was a sure thing for the 06 World Cup until he got hurt, right?

Posted by: TCompton | August 31, 2007 8:44 AM | Report abuse

Section 410 -- a further rip-off -- Tug McGraw wasn't the one to say about grass v. Turf -- "I don't know, I never smoked Turf." That was Bill "Spaceman" Lee.

Good catch on the George Best line, JJH.

Posted by: WNT fan | August 31, 2007 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Not sure if I have the right blog. Seems like a cross between the X files and a numerically titled Orwell book.

FYI. The NIH is a known CIA front. HAL = IBM. "Dave, I saw your lips moving." Space Oddessey.

Back to earth, I think. Agree with other posters that would like to see Altidore in the mix. Bradley's job is secure, but clearly he was not the No. 1 choice of the Sunni at USSF HQ.

Posted by: MR Caretaker | August 31, 2007 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Based on MLS performace I go like this:

Altidore...Johnson

Donovan

Alvarez.....Ralston

Olsen

Bornstein...Goodson...Parkhurst...Wiabel

Guzan

That's a 4-4-2 with a diamond shape in the middle.
The bench, who cares, it's a 90 minute game played by 11 men.

Posted by: harry | August 31, 2007 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Actually Throwin MLS cup is not at noon eastern to accomodate the NFL.

MLS Cup is at noon eastern because ABC also has the rights to Nascar and there is a race that afternoon. Hope we get overtime just to screw with them (unless of course its DC winning in regulation).

Posted by: bluemeanies | August 31, 2007 9:12 AM | Report abuse

"FYI. The NIH is a known CIA front."

Absolutely not. There is a perfectly good reason why all those Arabic, Russian, and Korean speakers work in Bethesda.

Posted by: EZ, MD | August 31, 2007 9:18 AM | Report abuse

Nice article on the departure of underclassmen. NCAA soccer coaches have all the headaches of their basketball colleagues, without the pressures of publicity and big salaries.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | August 31, 2007 9:44 AM | Report abuse

for us roster's do we still post here or on the new topic?

to me it seems players in europe that are not regulars in their team should not be called up since it is more important for them to get/earn regular playing time and you only do that by staying and training and getting settled

that should rule out feilhaber, kamani hill, freddy adu, bobby convey, charlie davies, lee nguyen, dempsey also because he has not locked down a starting spot

i don't think there should be any rush on altidore. bruce is doing it right at NY and he will probably tell bob to not call him up

Posted by: johnny | August 31, 2007 10:30 AM | Report abuse

If Madrid and Bristol are the same guy, it suggests a multiple-personality power struggle raging inside the poor SOB's brain; Madrid's USMNT roster is perfectly sane, but then Bristol does the stale Soehn rants . . . Hang in there Madrid!! Claw your way out! Head for the light!!

Posted by: gringo | August 31, 2007 10:34 AM | Report abuse

It sounds like Chris Seitz has indeed been called up, and he's not even starting for us. It's a strange world.

http://www.aylsoccer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=501&Itemid=10109

Posted by: Pat Eyler | August 31, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Here's the lineup I'd like to see:
Hanneman
Spector Conrad Boca Bornstein
Donovan Feilhaber Dempsey Beasley
Johnson Ching

Bench:
Howard
Cherundelo
Simek
Pearce
Convey
Adu
Mapp
Bradley (see I don't totally hate him ... just don't want to see him start)
Altidore
Davies

Posted by: Matt | August 31, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Beckham apologizes for ripping FieldTurf
Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- David Beckham can do lots of things with his feet. On Thursday, he realized he'd stuck one in his mouth.

The English midfielder apologized to FieldTurf, which makes an artificial surface used in many stadiums. A day earlier, Beckham had said FieldTurf was one of the things that was "not right'' about Major League Soccer and that all of the league's games should be played on grass.

"I have to apologize -- I didn't realize FieldTurf was actually a company,'' Beckham said.

Adding to the embarrassment, Beckham admitted that he had actually purchased three FieldTurf fields for one of his youth soccer academies.

"At that level, I think it's a great surface,'' he said.

Beckham said his feelings haven't changed about the use of FieldTurf for MLS games because of the toll the harder surface takes on the body. Four of the league's 13 teams play their home games on an artificial surface.

"I've been playing on grass since I was a young kid,'' he said.

Posted by: Paul | August 31, 2007 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Based on MLS performace I go like this:

Altidore...Johnson

Donovan

Alvarez.....Ralston

Olsen

Bornstein...Goodson...Parkhurst...Wiabel

Guzan

That's a 4-4-2 with a diamond shape in the middle.
The bench, who cares, it's a 90 minute game played by 11 men.

I would go with this if it was another opponent at another time. I would agree that this would be an All-American Best 11 in MLS this season.

Posted by: tex | August 31, 2007 3:44 PM | Report abuse

fyi, that Beckham/FieldTurf story is three weeks old.

Posted by: Goff | August 31, 2007 5:05 PM | Report abuse

GK: Howard, Hahnemann
DF: Bocanegra, Conrad, Demerit, Bornstein, Cherundolo, Spector, Hejduk
MF: Feilhaber, Mastroeni, Clark, M. Bradley, Dempsey, Beasley, Olsen, Adu
FW: Johnson, Ching, Altidore, Davies

Would like to see Howard start with a formation of: 4-3-1-2 with (right to left)

Hejduk-Demerit-Bocanegra-Bornstein

-----------Mastroeni--------------

Olsen Beasley

Feilhaber

Dempsey---------------Johnson

I really want to see this combination of Strikers. Lets reamember that johnson feeds off of demps and that Dempsey can hold the ball waiting for johnson to make one of his slashing runs. i also believe that if we are having defensive problems then Feilhaber could drop back into a CDM role and provide cover for the backs in a 4-2-2-2. I selected olsen on the right because of a lack of healthy/fit Right midfielders. Olsen would also provide cover when Hejduk goes forward. as for my Center backs i picked the two that i feel are young and the best at the moment. I left off Onyewu because he had a horrible season last year and i believe that he is simply to slow for Brazil's speed.

Posted by: XioPik | September 1, 2007 6:32 PM | Report abuse

P.S. i left out Donovan because he needs the rest. ohh that i wanna see a US team that doesnt have him kissing his hands 30trillion times.

Posted by: XioPik | September 1, 2007 6:34 PM | Report abuse

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