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Chivas Notes, in Translation

A loyal Spanish-speaking reader of the Insider has agreed to send occasional notes on what the Mexican media is saying about Chivas and DCU this month. I'll trust that the translations are accurate.

I'm going to training today to ask where this rivalry ranks amid all the other tournaments and rivalries DCU has accumulated. If you have any thoughts on the matter, feel free.

Captain Ramon Morales (from "Milenio")

"DC United is going to come out with everything they have in order to grab as the second game of the series is at home for us. However this team (Chivas) always knows that when you play away, you have to play your best in order to gain an advantage in order to close out the series at home."

Omar Bravo (from "Ovaciones")

"The last time we met, we beat them fairly easily; we grabbed a tie in D.C. and then beat them in el 'Estadio Jalisco.' Of course they will be looking for revenge but we have to focus on winning the match with whatever it takes....This is also about pride as everyone is talking about who is better. But that's not really decided until the match is over. These matches are also about pride."

Patricio "Pato" Araujo (from "El Informador")

"It's a team that, as we saw in the first round of the CONCACAF Champions Cup, is very tough. In their stadium, they will have great support. It's one of the most important teams in the United States along with the Galaxy, and it's going to be difficult to play in their field where we managed a tie during the CONCACAF tournament."

Other notes -

From the last time that the two teams met in the CONCACAF Champions Cup, the main difference when it comes to Chivas will be the absence of playmaker Adolfo "Bofo" Bautista. Bofo was sold this summer to Jaguares in Mexico for a reported $4 million dollars. His departure was instigated, according to media reports, by coach "Chepo" de la Torre, who never saw eye to eye with the player. While Chepo claimed that the team could play without Bofo, the team has had problems scoring this season after only scoring 7 goals in 9 games. Chivas is 3-3-3 in the current Mexican season.

Team owners Jorge Vergara and Will Chang have a bet riding on the match. The two met back in June at Chivas' match in San Jose and negotiated the wager. According to Guadalajara paper, "El Informador," the two millionaires decided that the loser must shave his head. According to Vergara he is confident as Chivas will win both matches.

By Dan Steinberg  |  September 25, 2007; 10:59 AM ET
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I predict DC wins 2-1. C'mon guys, you gotta go to the stadium and bring your friends. Last time (in the cold rain) the Chivas fans were equal to or louder than us, but we must show them our true colors. Besides, the weather will be fair this time. ;-)

Posted by: David | September 25, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Bofo was sold this summer to Jaguares in Mexico for a reported $4 dollars.

that's not a lot of pesos.

Posted by: a misplaced decimal? | September 25, 2007 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Especially for a coach nicknamed "cheapo"...

Posted by: Ron | September 25, 2007 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Good thing I come to this blog, or I would've never known about this game...

Posted by: RK | September 25, 2007 11:19 AM | Report abuse

well, there have been big ads in the Post and Express and I assume in the Examiner as well. They were talking about it on the Fox Soccer Report last night. Emails from the team to season ticket holders reminding us about the Special Game C ticket for his game. So I'm not sure why you didn't know about it.

I believe I also saw last night that the game will be on TV on delay at 11:30 on FSC. So, go to the game and then watch yoruself on TV later.

Posted by: Glenn | September 25, 2007 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Is Bofo the one with the kooky head-wrap who looks like "Quique" from "El Chavo del Ocho?"

Posted by: Juan-John | September 25, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Yes Juan-John, you may also remember Bofo as the guy who missed the sitter at the end of the Gold Cup final. Or more correctly, whom Howard stoned to preserve the win.

Posted by: G-Dub | September 25, 2007 11:43 AM | Report abuse

""The last time we met, we beat them fairly easily"

Really, Omar Bravo? 2-1 with help of a goalkeeper error, and with United having had multiple chances to level the game was easy?

I guess as money is devalued once you cross the border, so too is effort.

Posted by: DCU_Rick | September 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Report abuse

We need to slap the cockiness out of them.

Posted by: Chico | September 25, 2007 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I was kidding when I said United has great support. I know there will be more Mexicans at the match . . . unless YOU decide to show up . . .

Posted by: Patricio "Pato" Araujo | September 25, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This match is news to me, as well.
Is this part of a competition or considered a friendly?

Posted by: wisc. ave | September 25, 2007 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Patricio Araujo:
"It's one of the most important teams in the United States along with the Galaxy"

BWAAAHAHAHAHAH!!! Did Alexi Lalas tell him that? They're not even the most important team in their own stadium!

Posted by: apqjr | September 25, 2007 12:18 PM | Report abuse

ahhh, nothing like a good old fashion head shaving to settle a bet!

Posted by: Tweaked | September 25, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

wisc ave:

It's part of the Copa Sudamericana. Think UEFA cup in Europe.

Posted by: strago | September 25, 2007 12:21 PM | Report abuse

"BWAAAHAHAHAHAH!!! Did Alexi Lalas tell him that? They're not even the most important team in their own stadium!"

CLASSIC! How does one get repped on the blog????

Posted by: the other RK | September 25, 2007 12:22 PM | Report abuse

This match is news to me, as well.
Is this part of a competition or considered a friendly?

It is part of a South American club competition that some North American clubs were invited to (or qualified for in some way).

Posted by: SudAmericana | September 25, 2007 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I wouldnt match it to EUFA wouldn't see Barcelona in the EURA cup, would you. Libertadores is still first, but this is not far behind...

Posted by: Burke | September 25, 2007 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The last time DCU was at begining of the soccer season they were in the middle of season; now both are at the same condition.
We see which is better, the Mexican may have to eat theirselves the words.

Posted by: OrlandoGator | September 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Report abuse


I think you're confusing the UEFA Champions League (Libertadores) and the UEFA Cup (Sudamericana).

Posted by: strago | September 25, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Aye,Aye,Aye... I hate the Chivas!!!!

DCU has to grab a strong lead in this game by at least two goals in order to advance. Chivas is hurting and this is the perfect time to take them out!

Posted by: Keenan | September 25, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Shoot me now -- when we see quotes referring to United as "one of the most important teams in the United States along with the Galaxy" it makes me really unhappy with the whole Beckham thing.

Check the standings can you compare the two?

Posted by: Galaxy NO | September 25, 2007 12:39 PM | Report abuse

vergara, i hope your hair never grows back.

Posted by: i'm shavng my head too | September 25, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

""The last time we met, we beat them fairly easily"

Ha Ha! Omar Bravo, what a pendej . . . Seems like he forgot the tie at RFK was after a Namoff deflection. Then their victory in Mexico was the result of a keeper error.

Not to mention they needed extra time to beat the Galaxy, arguably MLS's worst team.

With our best 11 playing like they have over the past month. I see us 3-1 here with a 4-3 aggregate win for DC United.

Posted by: delantero | September 25, 2007 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I anticipate a tough match. Chivas were not particularly impressive in the SuperLiga. But DC United tends to keep matches interesting.

By the way, if DC United is "one of the most important teams in the United States along with the Galaxy," does that make us a SUPER-CLUB. SWEEEEET!

Posted by: DWE4 | September 25, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"Important" does not necessarily equate to the standings. LA, as much as we all hate them, has a good history. We are the only MLS team with more success in the US and CONCACAF, so by default you have to say they're one of the more notable teams in this country.

Bravo is wildly wrong about winning easily the first time around, but he's also a massively overrated player.

The difference between us in the CONCACAF Cup and today is night and day. Our formation is more balanced, our defense is miles better, Perkins is in form, and our attacking players have all adjusted to each other very well. Meanwhile, Chivas has lost their main threat in their 343. This is a game we should go out and win with authority, especially since the away leg is midweek and at altitude.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | September 25, 2007 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Roster for the 3/15 RFK Match:

D.C. United -- Troy Perkins, Facundo Erpen, Bobby Boswell, Bryan Namoff, Ben Olsen, Brian Carroll (Stephen deRoux 60), Christian Gomez, Clyde Simms, Joshua Gros, Luciano Emilio, Jaime Moreno (Jamil Walker 70)

The away roster was similar (can't find it exactly) but Gros went out in the first half with a concussion (DeRoux?) and Fred played the last 30 or so.

We were still playing 3-5-2 as well

Hopeful Roster for tommorrow:
D.C. United -- Troy Perkins, Bobby Boswell, Bryan Namoff, Devon McTavish, Marc Burch, Clyde Simms, Christian Gomez, Ben Olsen, Fred, Jaime Moreno, Luciano Emilio

Subs: Dyachenko, Vanney, Carroll, Gros, DeRoux

Posted by: delantero | September 25, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Just wondering where the tv coverage is....

I've heard about fox sport Español, but is it playing anywhere else???

and the Galazy are important??? To whom, the bottom of the table...

3-2 DCU

Posted by: cashous | September 25, 2007 1:02 PM | Report abuse

FSC is showing it on delay.

Namoff was hobbled after the Chicago match. Is he fit for tonight?

Posted by: DCU_Rick | September 25, 2007 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Any lasting repurcussions from Namoff's limping off the field on Sunday, when he was already slated for being subbed out?

delantero: I think Vanney needs to be in the lineup. Vanney/Boz and Vanney/McT have both performed better than Boz/McT since he came back from injury right after the trade.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | September 25, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Totally agree with you, LeesburgSoccerFan!

Posted by: Soy United! | September 25, 2007 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Namoff is fine, a team spokesman says. Will be available if Tom Soehn so chooses on Wednesday. No point in asking Tom Soehn whether he would so choose.

Posted by: Dan Steinberg | September 25, 2007 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Vas a Ver Vas a Ver al DC CAMPEON>>>>>>

Posted by: United | September 25, 2007 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Well you guys Galaxy was a pretty good team until Alexi Lalas became GM

Posted by: JC | September 25, 2007 2:18 PM | Report abuse

McT or Vanney? No matter IMO, but it might be nice to have a little more experience in the back, particularly for the away game.

Posted by: d | September 25, 2007 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Can we shave Lalas' head instead????

Posted by: Dale Dale | September 25, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

We need to slap the cockiness out of them.

Posted by: Chico | September 25, 2007 11:58 AM

Where's Abby Wambach when you need her?

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 25, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Arriba las Chivas, putos!!!

On that note, I wouldn't mind seeing Vergara with a bald head either - I hate the guy.

Posted by: Vic | September 25, 2007 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"BWAAAHAHAHAHAH!!! Did Alexi Lalas tell him that? They're not even the most important team in their own stadium!

Posted by: apqjr | September 25, 2007 12:18 PM"

Lalas was referring to Chivas USA when he made the comment.

Posted by: Vic | September 25, 2007 5:01 PM | Report abuse

who knew that Omar Bravo could add 'arrogant a-hole' to his title of 'diver' & 'cry baby'?

As I recall Chivas beat you guys anything but easily.

I am no United fan, but I will watch the match and hope you guys stomp Chivas. Get it done this time boys.

Posted by: papa bear | September 25, 2007 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Another player no longer w Chivas is their right mid / wingback Diego Martinez. He scored the gametying golazo at the end of the SuperLiga match for Morelia after we recognized him and started chanting "Chivas reject!" at him.

Posted by: garbaggio | September 25, 2007 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Dude, I love it that Chang is backing up his club. This guy rocks. Little stuff like this gives me confidence that United will keep moving in the right direction. Chang and his partners clearly have business acumen. It appears that they have passion as well.

Posted by: Matte | September 26, 2007 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Yeah... we won (Again by the way) :D... We're DC's Daddy :D...
sorry guys, maybe in another life..

Posted by: Emmanuel -Mexico | October 3, 2007 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Good site! I'll stay reading! Keep improving!

Posted by: Nika | November 10, 2007 2:45 PM | Report abuse

ymPEBN natursekt sklavin ,

Posted by: Julie Darden | January 6, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

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