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Letters, We've Got Letters

D.C. United is losing its patience with Fenty and the city over the Poplar Point project.

Click here to read the letter the club sent to the mayor last week (it's a pdf).

By Steve Goff  |  October 11, 2007; 1:03 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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Nice scoop Goffinho!

Posted by: G | October 11, 2007 2:21 PM | Report abuse

That's a sweet letter. Some pretty strong words. Hopefully they mean every word.

Posted by: Matte | October 11, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Show your support for DC United and a soccer stadium at Poplar Point

http://www.petitiononline.com/dcunited/petition.html


Posted by: Tweaked | October 11, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how it works in the DC gov't, but if you don't respond to a Federal gov't RFP, you don't get the contract. I don't see McFarlane giving Fenty a way out, other than to complete the RFEI process, declare all the bids unacceptable, and start over; or to modify the RFEI. Either way, the other proposers may sue.

I'm not a lawyer, just a former gov't project officer.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 11, 2007 2:25 PM | Report abuse

We're toast.

Posted by: Max | October 11, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The RFEI proposal process in the District is not as clear-cut as the federal system.

Posted by: Mickey | October 11, 2007 2:27 PM | Report abuse

it is clear that a DC stadium is unlikely and it appears that it is time to move on to finding a suburban location. Hopefully an inisde the beltway suburban location such that we don't repeat the mistake made by Dallas by damaging attendance by building in the distant suburbs. I hope this is possible!

Posted by: rob | October 11, 2007 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Well that certainly is newsworthy...

Posted by: Matt | October 11, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

is it not feasible to build a stadium in the parking lot at RFK? something about federal mandates about what happens with the land when RFK is gone?

Posted by: pat | October 11, 2007 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who noticed that the letterhead has us winning the 2008 Supporters Shield?

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody have a means to find out the following information:

- Which entity OWNS RFK stadium?
- Which entity OWNS the land under RFK stadium?
- If either or neither is the District, what are the terms of the leases?

I've been under the impression (and I don't recall where I heard it) that the Federal government owns the land and that if RFK is without a tenant for any length of time the land reverts back to the Federal govt. Should this be true, it is in the Districts interests to keep DCU at RFK as long as it takes to get the Redskins back, and then either screw us or help us get a SSS. I believe this is one reason Fenty is dragging this out... just my conspiracy theory...

Can someone delve into this and get a definitive answer?

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

This is cool, no matter what happens I like to see MLS in a position to stop playing needy.

Posted by: Logan Circle | October 11, 2007 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Was that scanned by a monkey wearing boxing gloves? :-)

Posted by: Kev | October 11, 2007 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Boy, this isn't good.

Posted by: Kire | October 11, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

"Am I the only one who noticed that the letterhead has us winning the 2008 Supporters Shield?

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 02:46 PM "
*******
Yes, you are the only one. It reads 1997, 99, 06...

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

On a side note... Kevin Payne's signature... what the heck was that!

Posted by: Aaron | October 11, 2007 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Pat,
Go to the "There is Hope" thread ans see Section 410's response on the subject.

In addition, the DCS$EC controls the RFK grounds. If a soccer stadium were to be built there, DC would not earn much money from ticket sales, concessions, and parking.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 11, 2007 2:50 PM | Report abuse

NattyBo:

You have a wonderful taste in brew.

I think that must be a 6 not an 8 on the letterhead. DCU won the Supporter's Sheild in 97,99,06.

Posted by: bribri | October 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

*******
Yes, you are the only one. It reads 1997, 99, 06...

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 02:49 PM
*******
I suggest you zoom in or clean your monitor, I have a screen cap where you can clearly see the 08 if you like. Just funny, but also kind of sad we can't even have this stuff right on our own letterhead.

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one who noticed that the letterhead has us winning the 2008 Supporters Shield?

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 02:46 PM

That's an '06 on the letterhead. '08 coming soon!

Posted by: Kev | October 11, 2007 2:55 PM | Report abuse

As long as the stadium is Metro accessible, I'm cool. I live in Southwest DC and I like to venture to VA & MD now and then.

Posted by: Rafael | October 11, 2007 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Just to prove I'm not seeing things (and because hey who doesn't like "arguing" over these here intertubes...)
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2901/screencapxc6.jpg

There is the aforementioned screencap.

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I know it's supposed to say '06, but the letterhead does say '08. There is NO way that it's a 6 looking like an 8. Check it out for yourself.

Posted by: Alex | October 11, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

It's a 6!

Goff, can you rescan the letter at a higher resolution and in grayscale, pls, so we can settle this...

;-)

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Since we're awarding ourselves future trophies, I really would have preferred this years MLS Cup as opposed to next years SS.

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 3:11 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of whiney, nit-picking brats... what was the subject again?

Posted by: Huey | October 11, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Now if a 6 turned out to be 9, I don't mind

Posted by: Jimi Hendrix | October 11, 2007 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't Will Chang sign the letter? Isn't he also an owner?

Posted by: Lover | October 11, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Smart move by United. By refusing to participate in Fenty's proposal solicitation, they remove the DC government's ability to leverage them against any other developer. United has made no secret of their intentions viz-a-viz Poplar Point, a tactic that allowed Fenty to basically say to everyone from Kettler Brothers to Carr Company, "This is the deal I've got in my hand; beat it." In real estate this is known as "shopping" a contract. By pulling out of this sham "bidding" process, United has removed Fenty's ability to take a strong bargaining position with the other developers. My guess is the Honorable Adrian is a bit upset right now, because especially by publically leaking/releasing the actual letter, United has told every other developer, "Go ahead and squeeze the District. We aren't going to be the anvil for Fenty to beat you into better offers any more."

The timing of this also makes sense, as we are about a week from Fenty's deadline for proposals. You can be sure anyone preparing a concept is now going to rethink the financial side of the equation (to the District's detriment, no doubt). You will also likely see several new/unexpected proposals as well, all on killer terms for the benefit of the developer, trying to "steal" a very lucrative deal.

The Honorable Adrian is about to learn two truths about the business world. First, posturing has it's place, but it's painfully easy to overplay your hand. Second, it's not wise to overlook the first offer you get, because generally it is the best one you'll see.

The next 10 days will be interesting, to say the least....

Posted by: Throwin | October 11, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

The scanned letterhead also reads "996 U.S. Open Cup Champions"

There you have it. The US Open Cup is the oldest trophy in the history of all sports. The year also clearly establishes that soccer was invented in the United States and not in England.

SUCK ON THAT LIMEYS!

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 11, 2007 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Whats the hold up???

The proposal is solid (unlike the MLB deal, Help, MLB took our school budget).

DC United Wins Championships...
No offense Caps, Nats and Skins but at last count (4 Titles in 12 years vs Zero in 15 years). United, is the only professional club to bring any hardware to D.C. since Clinton (Bill) was in the White House...

Last I checked, I thought Oberlin grads had a bit more courage to what's right for DC! As opposed, to getting bogged down in this antiquated ignorant and bickering politics that has perpetually kept D.C.(the city) from moving forward in its efforts to
re-establish it's self as the great city it should and can be for all citizens.

GO UNITED!!!

Posted by: Cashous | October 11, 2007 3:27 PM | Report abuse

What ever happened to Brian Davis and Christian Laettner?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Maybe since I'm not from DC this is all news to me, but the best part of the entire letter is that it was CC'd to a Councilmember Kwame Brown! Who knew that the ex-Wizard and #1 draft pick is moonlighting as a DC Councilmember!

Although apparently Councilmember Brown is At-Large...which would make sense given that Kwame Brown "plays" for the Lakers now!

Posted by: Jammer | October 11, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Well, well, well, looks like a bad day all around for new local stadia:

"Monument Realty filed a federal lawsuit today against Metro to stop the sale of the transit agency's land near the Washington Nationals' new baseball stadium, escalating a dispute that threatens to disrupt the opening of the ballpark next spring."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101101117.html

I wonder if Czar Selig I has been informed of this little development yet?

Posted by: Throwin | October 11, 2007 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Put that new stadium in the Maryland burbs and we are set..... This is DC United not FC Dallas, wherever we play the crowd will be there! Not that I live there but PG County out Central Ave by the Metro Blue line.....there is a big space there with some parking, you'll have to knock down a montrosity of a structure there that some other DC team plays in, but who cares about them....they don't win championships!

Posted by: Piney O | October 11, 2007 3:30 PM | Report abuse

What's the holdup? DC is the poster child for greed, corruption, red tape, self agrandizement and most important of all, neglect of its downtrodden. This deal could really help the good people of Ward 8. Others want to build them some park benches so they can see the sunsets.

Posted by: DirtyHarry | October 11, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

zzzzzz

Posted by: ZZZ | October 11, 2007 3:37 PM | Report abuse

This part is interesting.....

"the fact that our current situation at RFK is not financially feasible, we have begun discussions with surrounding jurisdictions about alternate stadium sites."

So, wonder where that is. Seems like there might be other District sites possible (e.g., NY Ave corridor) but, if DC Gov't is going to play games - DC UTD has to take it out of the District.

And, I don't think that means MoCo or Fairfax County....

Posted by: PotomacBoater | October 11, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I hope they keep the stadium withing the beltway and metro-accessable. I really think thats part of the key to Uniteds strong and growing support.

I think most soccer teams would draw better if they weren't located out in east bumblef---. NY's the best example- theres not a doubt in my mind that they would have MUCH more support if they were actually located in NYC.

Posted by: laur | October 11, 2007 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say it, but if they move outside the beltway, I may seriously cut down on my attendance. And I'm a season ticket holder.

Posted by: d, dc | October 11, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The proposal is solid (unlike the MLB deal, Help, MLB took our school budget).
Posted by: Cashous | October 11, 2007 03:27 PM

Let's not dilute our argument too much here. The funding for the baseball stadium came from a new corporate tax initiative that would not have existed if not for the stadium plan. No existing money was (supposed to be) taken out of the budget. Sure there have been infrastructure costs, but MacFarlane wants 200 mil from the city as well. I think both projects are worth the investment.

This is not baseball stadium v soccer stadium. It's more Fenty v the legacy of Williams. Mayor Williams wanted the stadiums to exist together in an improved Anacostia project. We can be sour about the priority of the baseball project, but not necessarily it's existence... in my opinion.

Posted by: Kev | October 11, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I like how this letter sets up a stronger bargaining position for the negotiation of a new lease for next year at RFK.

It's a masterstroke.... or we're in big trouble!

:)

Posted by: Eric | October 11, 2007 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen River Place in Arlington? - BLOW IT UP! - put a stadium there!

Posted by: River Place | October 11, 2007 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Message to Mr. Goff,

With Poplar Point in trouble, I'd love to read an authoritative account of the ownership situation of RFK stadium and the surrounding land, and the possibilities (if any) for building a soccer-specific stadium on the RFK site. Would you be willing to do this for an upcoming article or blog posting? Much appreciated.

Posted by: SSMD | October 11, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

xx xxxx
Philly U-NIT-ED
xx xxxx
Philly U-NIT-ED

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Good for DCU. They can't wait on the District forever. This can be a profitable franchise as soon as they have a real SSS in which to play.

Posted by: jasonVA | October 11, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Arlington United
Alexandria United
Balston United
Mclean United
Reston United
Herndon United
Dulles United
Ashburn United
FedEx United?? Maybe Fedex will be the shirt sponsors AND United gets to play at FedEx field???

It's really pathetic that DC is turning is back on DC United. Time to move out of the city and let them have to Wiz - Caps and Nats. I would not be surprised if the wiz and the caps move out when the VZ center lease ends....

Posted by: NOMOREDC | October 11, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I'll support the club as long as it stays Metro and Beltway bound - but if it moves to the DISTANT suburb of Charm City - I'll burn my kit tomorrow.

Posted by: Charm City Hater | October 11, 2007 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"United, is the only professional club to bring any hardware to D.C. since Clinton (Bill) was in the White House..."

Washington Freedom. 2003 WUSA Champions.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 11, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

River Place - YES! Blow it up. A really nice stadium will fit there!!

Posted by: DCU IN VA | October 11, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

"I'll support the club as long as it stays Metro and Beltway bound - but if it moves to the DISTANT suburb of Charm City - I'll burn my kit tomorrow."

DITTO.

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 4:09 PM | Report abuse

United must think it has considerable leverage to write a letter with seven bulleted "requirements" to the mayor. From what I've seen of Fenty, his reaction will be along the lines of "F off, United."

Posted by: So long DC | October 11, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't like the whole thing - especially the implied threat to move out of D.C. Don't seek after government money to build your freakin' stadium.

Posted by: Season Ticket Holder | October 11, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

http://www.poplarpointdc.com/

where is the soccer stadium?

Posted by: NOMOREDC | October 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I support DCU and I am from Baltimore. As much as I would love to see the team in Baltimore it belongs in DC, not in the suburbs. IF the team moves to the VA side of DC you will lose MD fans and vice-versa. Goff, any word on where they are looking as a back-up? I have read that Baltimore is a possibilty and so is some distant areas in VA that I am not familiar with. If they are looking into MD wouldnt that hurt Phillys chances?

Posted by: 695er | October 11, 2007 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I think today would be a good day for whoever started dcunitedpetition.com to send it to Sir Fenty.

Posted by: Adam | October 11, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Build a SSS in MD. Use College Park for a couple of years while the stadium is being built - screw the DC Govmnt!

Posted by: Vic | October 11, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I-270...

Overlooked the Freedom my bad, but that was a good final...

and for "NOMOREDC" as long as their not NoVA its all good...
VA, already took land from D.C. if'en you can remeber your Civil War History...
DCU can move anywhere.... but NoVA, No way!!! on to Baltimore...

Posted by: Cashous | October 11, 2007 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Why do people immediately conclude any of the following:

1. It's over, we won't get a stadium in the District
2. When the team moves, they should move to (insert poster's jurisdiction) for no reason at all other than my own convenience.
3. The team will move to Baltimore.

"You see, it's a mat, with all these conclusions on it...and you jump to them."
"This mat, it is a terrible idea."

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 11, 2007 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully United does not move outside the Metro Area. I agree with that sentiment.

Posted by: BigWave | October 11, 2007 4:26 PM | Report abuse

P.S. College Park is NOT going to work. As a Terp and CP resident, I know this for a fact. It is not going to happen. Abandon the idea now.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 11, 2007 4:28 PM | Report abuse

"I like how this letter sets up a stronger bargaining position for the negotiation of a new lease for next year at RFK."

it makes it seem worse to me... like if we're going to move out of the city then what incentive does DC SEC have to be nice guys and give DCU a favorable lease (or one at all, for that matter)?

Posted by: pat | October 11, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but when you use that poplar park DC link there is a "new" modification to the RFEI pushing the due date back from October 19 to November 2. On-going problems with the bids? New problems with the bids based on DC United's letter?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 11, 2007 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Cashous - I would not mind the team in MD but I tend to think Arlington - Alexandria have go to be prime DC United targets. After all where is the majority of money in this region? Virginia! After losing the Nats VA might be up for a fight on this one.

It's just disgusting that the DC govt is so stupid. Oh well - it will serve them right to loose DCU.

Posted by: NOMOREDC | October 11, 2007 4:33 PM | Report abuse

How about the Maryland Soccerplex in Germantown. Its outside of the beltway and Metro but there is plenty of land. A SSS would fit in nicely with all the work they are already doing and with the new arena that Montgomery County wants to build. Plus DC already plays US Open Matches there. The could build a nice cozy place for the team.

Posted by: Dave | October 11, 2007 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, there's all of that empty land and empty roads in Arlington and Alexandria. What are they going to do, build an island in the Potomac and annex it?

Posted by: RK | October 11, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Have you seen River Place in Arlington? - BLOW IT UP! - put a stadium there!

Posted by: River Place | October 11, 2007 03:50 PM
_________________________________________

Do you own or rent there? From the bit of online research I've managed to do, it appears that each of the several buildings is a separate coop, each of which has several hundred owners. How does one acquire a site under such circumstances? Further, many units are rented out. While commercial leases usually contain language that allows incoming new owners to clean house, this is less likely to be true of residential leases. A few holdout tenants could delay the start of demolition until their leases expire, a year or two in the future.

Posted by: Section 410 | October 11, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

NOMOREDC- You gotta a strong point... The ignorance of the DC Gov't continues to confound me...
30 plus years and the only change, has been the names of the people, screwing up the city...

Posted by: Cashous | October 11, 2007 4:38 PM | Report abuse

The letter makes DC look stupid for accepting any bid that does not match or beat United concessions to neighborhood groups. Imagine the ruckus if Fenty accepts a bid that had less affordable housing, was less commited to green building, offered less subcontracting to minority contractors, did not include an entertainment district AND resulted in the team leaving. The issues that Macfarlane said must be included in a winning bid that included 13 acres for United's stadium are precisely the issues that Ward 8 activists are pushing with regard to the site.

Also the letter opened the possibility of United building a stadium in conjunction with a proposal from a different developer that matches or betters the United plan for the community. That had not been clear before at least to outsiders.

This letter more strongly aligns DC United and Ward 8 in their demands for the site and opens a possibility where Macfarlane does not have to win the whole location. It also pressures Fenty to hurry up. All is not lost.

Posted by: bluemeanies | October 11, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

IN MCFARLANE WE TRUST....

This is a SHREWD and INTELLIGENT businessman whom control assets worth in the BILLIONS...I'd believe he'll get the job DONE and give you guys a BRAND NEW WORLD CLASS SOCCER STADIA in prime location.

Posted by: smokarz | October 11, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

As a Northern Virginian, I'll be happy to trade the cities of Arlington and Alexandria -- people who live there don't think of themselves as Virginians, and they spend most of their time in DC anyway -- and give us the stadium... preferably in, say, Centreville. There has to be 15 acres along Rte. 28 somewhere. It's a win-win. DC gets all of that extra tax revenue from their new residents, and DC United gets a home.

All in favor, say "aye."

Posted by: Joe Doc | October 11, 2007 4:43 PM | Report abuse

It's an eye sore. It's a ground lease that exists under the buildings - buy the ground lease, and Arlington (insert municipality) would likely seize anything else by eminent domain as the 4 complexes are mixes of apartments/condos.

This is where the Montreal Expos intially looked at in Arlington. Hence the ground lease. Don't know the terms - but irregardless, this is PRIME real estate. Every developer with any juice has looked/is still looking at this.

Posted by: River Place | October 11, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

{W]hat incentive does DC SEC have to be nice guys and give DCU a favorable lease (or one at all, for that matter)?
________________________________________

Is there any potential tenant for RFK other than DCU? The only alternative to a lease extension is to let the stadium sit vacant (or tear it down), forgoing a lot of revenue for the District. This is what is known as bilateral monopoly.

Posted by: Section 410 | October 11, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I would suggest that people who feel strongly about this should consider sending a letter to Mayor Fenty that refers to the DCU Oct. 1st letter.

Posted by: hoyanick | October 11, 2007 4:47 PM | Report abuse

It's a ground lease that exists under the buildings - buy the ground lease, and Arlington (insert municipality) would likely seize anything else by eminent domain as the 4 complexes are mixes of apartments/condos.
_________________________________________

Precisely who owns the land underneath the buildings? Further, the county would resort to using eminent domain if and only if a proposed stadium were popular with voters, which the baseball stadium was not, as I recall.

Posted by: Section 410 | October 11, 2007 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Mayor@dc.gov or adrian.fenty@dc.gov

Posted by: Contact Fenty | October 11, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

The only problem with stadiums anywhere but Poplar Point - very few locations offer MacFarlane Partners to hit their 33% IRR hurdles for their deals.

Posted by: Mac Partners | October 11, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"I would suggest that people who feel strongly about this should consider sending a letter to Mayor Fenty that refers to the DCU Oct. 1st letter."

****

My guess is that letters from DC residents will have the most weight. Can the SGs organize a letter-writing drive from their groups' DC residents? Or a petition-signing drive during the next 5 games?

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

P.S. College Park is NOT going to work. As a Terp and CP resident, I know this for a fact. It is not going to happen. Abandon the idea now.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 11, 2007 04:28 PM

Chest - any thoughts on Hyattsville or Riverdale?

Posted by: Kev | October 11, 2007 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Um, Soy United, have you not seen http://www.dcunitedpetition.com

Supporters groups HAVE been circulating a petition.

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

> any thoughts on Hyattsville or Riverdale?

Nice! In my own backyard.

PG U-NI-TED!!!

Posted by: rke | October 11, 2007 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Jack Kent Cooke wanted to build his new stadium in DC, but then Mayor-for-life Marion Barry made it so difficult that he moved the skins to PG county. THe district deserves to lose DCU.
I'd love it if they built a larger stadium out in Germantown!

Posted by: Lee | October 11, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

"Um, Soy United, have you not seen http://www.dcunitedpetition.com

Supporters groups HAVE been circulating a petition."

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Um, yes, I've already signed it. My point was to have the not-so-rabid fans (those present here on the Insider are the rabid fans) who attend actual DCU matches to sign the petition. I would hope that way we might double, triple, or quadruple the mere 1520 signature total now on the above mentioned petition.

Posted by: Soy United! | October 11, 2007 5:21 PM | Report abuse

I suggest you zoom in or clean your monitor, I have a screen cap where you can clearly see the 08 if you like. Just funny, but also kind of sad we can't even have this stuff right on our own letterhead.

Posted by: NattyBo | October 11, 2007 02:53 PM
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Just to set the record straight, the letterhead does indeed say '06 (not '08). That is just a very poor scan of our letterhead.

-Kyle Sheldon
D.C. United Communications Department

Posted by: Kyle Sheldon | October 11, 2007 5:22 PM | Report abuse

A Poplar Point deal is not toast yet, but DCU is doing exactly the right thing by letting Fenty know he can't shop around for a better deal without risking losing them to the burbs. And I say that as a DC resident who voted for Fenty, still likes him but desperately wants to see DCU remain in the city.

Unfortunately, if they leave DC I don't see any way they are going to remain inside the Beltway. Real estate is too pricey and finding 13 acres is near impossible, let alone near the Metro. It's DC or the hinterlands, I'm afraid (I can't even consider the idea of DCU leaving the region entirely!).

Go here to (politely) ask the Mayor to make the deal happen (especially DC residents):
http://app.dc.gov/apps/about.asp?page=atd&type=dsf&agency_id=1075

Posted by: KR in DC | October 11, 2007 5:37 PM | Report abuse

This is unfortunate, as Poplar Point is central and perfectly located. If this falls through you can forget anything inside the beltway. There aren't 13 acres that isn't either parkland or a re-zoning nightmare.
Its either Poplar Point or the exurbs. Lets hope Fenty gets his act together.

Posted by: wisc. ave | October 11, 2007 5:39 PM | Report abuse

KR, you and I think alike!

I would hate to see the stadium in the exurbs, as its been tried in MLS before (Dallas, Denver, etc.) and in my opinion failed. The attendance suffers, but more importantly, the atmosphere does as well. I know Macfarlane's trying to hold the mayor's feet to the fire but I hope the threat of moving to the burbs is a bluff, and they at least shop for another site in DC.

Posted by: wisc ave | October 11, 2007 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Goff said in Washington Post Live today that Virginia has the most fan support for United. Perhaps attendance levels would INCREASE if United moves to Arlington.

Posted by: Marylander | October 11, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

"You see, it's a "JUMP to Conclusions Mat"...

Posted by: AlecW81 | October 11, 2007 6:16 PM | Report abuse

I love the 'Jump' to conclusions mat.

Posted by: Michael Bolton | October 11, 2007 6:47 PM | Report abuse

We are going about this all wrong. We should get Congress to declare the stadium as a memorial to all presidents and generals who do not have their own memorial on the mall yet and build it smack dab in the middle of the mall. We could have the Chester A. Arthur memorial beer stand, the James Garfield luxury boxes, The George W. Bush (let's face it, he'll never earn one for himself alone) men's bathroom, etc...It will sure take a lot less time than the DC Government!

Posted by: noname | October 11, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Just to set the record straight, the letterhead does indeed say '06 (not '08). That is just a very poor scan of our letterhead.

-Kyle Sheldon
D.C. United Communications Department
*****

Thanks, Kyle. I guess I lose this interwebs argument. Ah, well. ;)

Posted by: Natty | October 11, 2007 6:55 PM | Report abuse

We are going about this all wrong. We should get Congress to declare the stadium as a memorial to all presidents and generals who do not have their own memorial on the mall yet and build it smack dab in the middle of the mall. We could have the Chester A. Arthur memorial beer stand, the James Garfield luxury boxes, The George W. Bush (let's face it, he'll never earn one for himself alone) men's bathroom, etc...It will sure take a lot less time than the DC Government!

Posted by: noname | October 11, 2007 06:55 PM


Man, what I wouldn't give to be able to take a number 2 on, i mean in a, george w. bush.......bathroom.

Posted by: Al Gore | October 11, 2007 7:18 PM | Report abuse

You name it Ronald Reagan Stadium and we would be in there by 2009, tops.

Posted by: Hoost | October 11, 2007 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Poor DC United, having to change its letterhead so frequently and order its stationery in small quantities.. Must be nice to be, say, the Revelosers who change their letterhead every 12 years. Or Colorado, who can keep the same letterhead forever.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 11, 2007 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Just to clarify, it wasn't Marion Barry that stood in Jack Kent Cookes way in building a stadium. It was Sharon Pratt Kelley. Barry back then as now was pro-stadium.

Posted by: Chico | October 12, 2007 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Fenty will ignore (as well he should) angry missives from outside the 202. If you want to have him listen, write not just an email, but a real old fashioned letter (on like paper, for reals) that's worth 15 emails.

Posted by: Northzax | October 12, 2007 11:39 AM | Report abuse

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