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It's Official

Men's and women's news, plus MLS.....

As we first reported here last night, Pia Sundhage (pronounced Soond-hahg-Eh) is the new U.S. women's national team coach. Meantime, the USSF has also announced that the men's team will renew their rivalry with Mexico on Feb. 6 at Reliant Stadium in Houston.

In MLS, Seattle becomes the 15th team. All the details available on the MLS Web site.

Of note about future expansion:

MLS plans to expand to 16 teams by 2010 and could feature as many as 18 clubs by 2012. Expansion conversations continue with more than a dozen communities throughout the United States and Canada. Commissioner Garber will discuss each market at his year-end state of the league address on Friday at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.

By Steve Goff  |  November 13, 2007; 2:17 PM ET
Categories:  U.S. men's national team  
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Nothing like another home road game for the US mens team.

Posted by: Chico | November 13, 2007 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Please USSF, just once, have the balls to visit Azteca. You will gain much, I promise! What is the point of a rivalry if you only play at home (ostensibly in this case because, as Chico noted, it's basically going to be a road game with a healthy Mexico crowd sure to be in full voice)? How can you properly evaluate the progress of the MNT if you refuse to take a chance once in a while? *sigh*

Posted by: iammrben | November 13, 2007 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Or how about playing the game at the Silverdome and getting some exposure in the North. I'm pretty sure the Detroit Lions won't be using the place in February.

Posted by: Chico | November 13, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Best wishes to Pia and I look forward to seeing the USWNT shine again.

Posted by: JC in CT | November 13, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"In an arrangement unique for this game, U.S. Soccer has divided the seating into U.S.A., Mexico, and mixed/neutral fan sections at each price level."

This should add to the home road game atmosphere.

Posted by: emanon | November 13, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Damn Goff, you had me thinking Veron was official to D.C.!

--strago

Posted by: strago | November 13, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I think there are issues with who gets to broadcast the Spanish telecast for the game if the match is held in Mexico. I think that's what killed the friendly a couple months ago and continues to be a problem.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Posted by: Wade | November 13, 2007 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Mexican Federation doesn't want to play in Mexico for a US/Mexico match.

No doubt the Mexican Fed gets a nice chunk of money. They get to keep the US based Mexican fans engaged by playing here regularly. and it saves them the potential of an embarrassing loss at the Azteca.

Hey Goff, have you (or anyone) looked into the economics of national team games. we all know DCU gets taken to the cleaners with their RFK lease deal, but what about USSF or in this case the Mexican Fed. Or are these friendlies just loss leaders which are made up financially via team sponsorships (ie: Nike's deal with USSF), TV rights and/or prize money for world cup participation etc.

Posted by: Tweaked | November 13, 2007 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Hey, the coach stole my name.

Posted by: Pia Zadora | November 13, 2007 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"As we first reported here last night"

Great scoop, Mr Goff . . . . .

Now from Mia to Pia . . . .

Posted by: WNT fan | November 13, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Will the Seattle team have to play in an NFL stadium? Or are plans to build something more appropriate in the works?

Posted by: Nogra Rover | November 13, 2007 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"neutral fan sections"

Neutral fan sections?

If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | November 13, 2007 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Goff,

Love your blog, it really is everyday stuff for me.

I just read on "Bobbyboswell.com" that DC has reaqcuired Alecko Eskandarian.

Is it true?? If so, what did we give up?

Posted by: Rick in Ashburn | November 13, 2007 3:53 PM | Report abuse

from the press release

"The MLS Seattle team will play their home matches at Qwest Field. The upper bowl will be covered to create a more intimate atmosphere. With a seating capacity of 24,500 for MLS matches, soccer fans will enjoy excellent views in a complex that was initially built with the highest level of soccer in mind. "

Posted by: emanon | November 13, 2007 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Did we trade Nolly back to RSL for Esky?

Posted by: Eric | November 13, 2007 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Just saw the same about Esky, if true this would seem to indicate that Moreno is expendable. It would be surprising to see him back.

Posted by: matt | November 13, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

So, Steve, what's the deal?

http://www.bobbyboswell.com/mls/eskys-back

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 13, 2007 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Mr Rick in Ashburn,

The video on bobby's blog should answer your Esky trade question.

I'll leave the rest to you.

Posted by: delantero | November 13, 2007 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Oops | November 13, 2007 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Oops, again | November 13, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Seattle soccer fans. But what happens to the Sounders? I can't see them competing with an MLS team for fans.

For future expansion franchises, I personally hope that New York City gets a team in Queens. Who knows what it will take to make that happen. Goodbye RBNY, hello Red Bull New Jersey! Also, the Wizards need to move to St. Louis or Minneapolis or some other midwestern city that can produce more soccer fans.

Posted by: SSMD | November 13, 2007 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Can someone describe the clip for those of us who can't watch videos like this at work? I just want to know if this has really happened . . .

Posted by: Stunted | November 13, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm at work, where Youtube is blocked. Anyone want to fill me in on this Esky situation?

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | November 13, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah...I can watch but can't hear it. Looks like he's got a new office job from the pictures...this looks like another Bobby spoof.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 13, 2007 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Just saw the same about Esky, if true this would seem to indicate that Moreno is expendable. It would be surprising to see him back.

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firstly, it's MY name, can't be yours

secondly, in no way does Esky make Moreno expendable...very different players

Posted by: Matt | November 13, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

per the video - Esky is "working" in the front office as an intern (with assignements like sorting paperclips by their color)

Posted by: Anonymous | November 13, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

well you know, with Gros's impending retirement we need to fulfill our headgear quota!

Posted by: Tweaked | November 13, 2007 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Sorry. It looks like the joke is on us. The clip shows Lecko working as a winter intern in the front office. One of his jobs is to sort the paper clips by size and color. In it, he says the internship is to beef up his resume and start his return to DC. He also throws BB "under the bus"(as part of the joke). Its not bad entertainment.

Posted by: Crazyal | November 13, 2007 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I was fooled by the Boswell item as well. I've told the DCU folks to make it clear that Esky has not been reacquired in a trade.

Grrr.....

Posted by: Goff | November 13, 2007 4:32 PM | Report abuse

wait - so Esky hasn't been reacquired? i figured the intern bit was just a funny way to announce that he's come back.

given how he was kind of upset about the way that he was let go, it's kind of weird that he would do that and not have been reacquired.

oh well...

Posted by: pat | November 13, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

ummmm, its on bobbyboswell.com; not exactly WaPo or NYT here. Its a joke and its funny, cant say that about all of BB's stuff.

Posted by: J-Mart | November 13, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Steven,

Any inkling whether MLS Rules & Discipline will be looking at Jacqua's elbow and possible suspension?

Posted by: Matt | November 13, 2007 4:41 PM | Report abuse

i'm still confused...

KyleSheldon, who works for DCU, posted this on bigsoccer:
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=621855

and his post says "Setting aside the oddity of a pro sports team announcing a player acquisition via a different player's blog"

so that means he's back, right?

Posted by: pat | November 13, 2007 4:44 PM | Report abuse

"neutral fan sections"

Neutral fan sections?

If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | November 13, 2007 03:47 PM
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I-270, you cracked me up with this comment. :-)

I do think this will make for an exciting atmosphere. It'll also make it easier for the marketers to get a handle on what percentage of the commercials should be geared toward the latino market at the next US/Mex game.

I'd prefer to see us play a 'friendly' at Azteca, however.


Posted by: David | November 13, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that the Sounders would simply become the MLS team?

Posted by: Bad Penguin | November 13, 2007 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, folks.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | November 13, 2007 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Pat, when Kyle (aka The Management) posted that he was quoting Steinbog, who believed it at the time.

Posted by: Goose | November 13, 2007 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that the Sounders would simply become the MLS team?

Posted by: Bad Penguin | November 13, 2007 04:45 PM
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It's a totally different ownership group. Further, they will surely build the roster in the usual way (expansion draft, allocations, etc.). Members of the Sounders roster will surely be welcome to try out for the team, but in all likelihood few would succeed. The question people should be asking is whether the Sounders will continue at all, as they would be competing with an MLS franchise for Seattle-area fans.

Posted by: 22201 | November 13, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

The Esky video is funny. I saw it on Steinberg's blow so I was not fooled. I guess anyhing on Boswell.com must be taken with a huge grain of salt.

Posted by: A Hardwick | November 13, 2007 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Actually, according to the MLS Web site, there is some overlap between the Sounders and the MLS expansion team, in the person of Adrian Hanauer. Still, an MLS club operates on a totally different plane from a USL club.

Posted by: 22201 | November 13, 2007 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Virginia just beat NC State in the ACC play-in match. So there will now be an eight-team tournament, featuring six teams that are nationally ranked in the top 25. Should be interesting.

Posted by: 22201 | November 13, 2007 5:10 PM | Report abuse

as a way to announce that esky is coming back as a player, it's funny and cool; as just a joke in and of itself, not cool.

Posted by: pat | November 13, 2007 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Any chance that the Sounders would simply become the MLS team?

Posted by: Bad Penguin | November 13, 2007 04:45 PM

They will die a short painful death.

Posted by: Toronto Lynx | November 13, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

From seattle's new website it doesn't look likely that they will inherit all of the sounders qualities. There is a section on there in which you're supposed to suggest names to their front office

I suggested Seattle Tsunami

Seriously doubt they will even look at any of the online submissions but I think that would be a good name for a club. Its nice that they try and include the fans in business matters surrounding the team, especially the voting out the GM, I'm sure a few clubs around the league would like to have that option. At least the fans of those poor clubs.

Posted by: blackandredblood | November 13, 2007 5:32 PM | Report abuse

I think the US should follow the Latin American/European lead and use a strong sports brand.

Why not use the Seahawks, A's and Patriots for the soccer teams? Its not unusual to have a volleyball, soccer, basketball and even rugby team under the same club name in other countries.

Posted by: Believe in Brand | November 13, 2007 6:45 PM | Report abuse

UVa had to play the play-in? That's sad.

Posted by: RK | November 13, 2007 7:05 PM | Report abuse

I understand the league wants to assert itself as a national, even continental brand. Perhaps, they imagine, if they have teams in every major city, ESPN and other sports highlight packages will include MLS, and newspapers will actually follow the league. It's just not that simple. The league is ignored by most of the media even in the cities where it's at now.

The jump to 16 teams is in the works, and I hope that will include a team in NYC -- though Philly is higher on the list for reasons I can't figure. Of course, if hte league would simply move the Wizards, they could get both done.

However, the league should not be so quick to expand beyond that. The reason is simple. Quality. If the league expands the number of DPs to 2 per team, and allows for another senior international, they can really upgrade the quality of play. Even those changes would be the equivalent of adding less than two fully-stocked rosters to the league. Ergo, there will be a dilution of talent on each team -- and that's assuming the league makes the changes I've proposed.

The best thing the league can do is raise the level of its play. If the passes have purpose -- if the runs are threatening -- the games will be exciting. You cannot say that about most MLS games. I love to watch the EPL on the weekend, but watching some MLS games can be only marginally more interesting than watching the grass grow on the pitch. Do what it takes to raise the level of play -- make the games exciting. Crowds will grow. The media attention will follow.

Posted by: FischFry | November 13, 2007 7:26 PM | Report abuse

There is a section on there in which you're supposed to suggest names to their front office

Posted by: blackandredblood | November 13, 2007 05:32 PM

The salmon?

Posted by: Ray Hudson | November 13, 2007 7:41 PM | Report abuse

There is RedBull NY, they should keep "the tradition" and make it Starbucks Seattle

Posted by: Jester64 | November 13, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

""If the league expands the number of DPs to 2 per team, and allows for another senior international, they can really upgrade the quality of play""

Quality? The league has Gomez, Emilio and Fred for about 800,000 and we want to add a second DP?

How about we increase the salary cap so that teams can pay a decent wage to the younger players and add a few more good under the radar players (Fred!)? Or maybe keep some young gringos in the mix?

Posted by: delantero | November 13, 2007 7:57 PM | Report abuse

Seattle Times piece indicates that 2008 will be the Sounders' last year in USL-1.

"The Sounders will play their final season in the United Soccer League in 2008."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/soccer/2004011415_webmls13.html

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 13, 2007 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Red Bull New York, so Black Tar Seattle?

Posted by: Mr Automatic | November 13, 2007 8:09 PM | Report abuse

How about we increase the salary cap so that teams can pay a decent wage to the younger players and add a few more good under the radar players (Fred!)? Or maybe keep some young gringos in the mix?
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I agree with you but the players must have little more quality. They can't really pay much than what they are worth. If the league can have two DPs who are not old and it will produce some positive results.
Media is disgusting ignoring the league. Notice the local sports reporters not even mentioning the MLS Cup but they can bring all sorts of high school football reports. What a jok!!! League needs much better PR managements.

Posted by: td | November 13, 2007 8:14 PM | Report abuse

The Seattle 0110001110010110

or is that too long?

Posted by: e | November 13, 2007 9:39 PM | Report abuse

From soccernet.com:

""The New England Revolution have never been made to feel at home at RFK Stadium. In fact, the Revolution's most loyal group of supporters, the Midnight Riders, have become reluctant to travel to D.C. United-Revolution matches because of some threatening experiences outside the stadium.""

Huh? What's that mean?

Posted by: d | November 13, 2007 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I think the US should follow the Latin American/European lead and use a strong sports brand.

Why not use the Seahawks, A's and Patriots for the soccer teams? Its not unusual to have a volleyball, soccer, basketball and even rugby team under the same club name in other countries.

Posted by: Believe in Brand | November 13, 2007 06:45 PM
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Are these teams under common ownership? If not, wouldn't the second, third, and fourth clubs to adopt the name have to pay the first one for the rights? Or is trademark law far different in other countries than in this country?

Posted by: 22201 | November 13, 2007 11:02 PM | Report abuse

FischFry: "The best thing the league can do is raise the level of its play."

The best thing the league can do is raise the level of its refereeing.

Posted by: asfoolasiam | November 14, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Revolution fans fear us? We endured a whole halftime with those Chicago Fire fans singing "Our House. In the middle of D.C. Our House." No ugliness. Try that at Anfield...

Posted by: FIischFry | November 14, 2007 12:07 AM | Report abuse

You love watching the level of play in the EPL? Sure, if they only show the same four teams over and over again.

Posted by: Chico | November 14, 2007 7:33 AM | Report abuse

The Starbucks logo would look pretty sweet on a kit.

I can see it now...Starbucks FC vs Red Bulls for the Caffeine Cup!

Posted by: London Dan | November 14, 2007 8:10 AM | Report abuse

Why do we Americans continue to nickname our sports teams after animals, emotions, geological formations, and drinks? Sure, it's cute for little kids' teams, but what's the point of a nickname anymore, to make your opponents fear you, to establish a local identity when residents are increasingly transient?

Stick with FC Seattle or Seattle City or Straits of San Juan United (just kidding about the last one). Ignore nicknames like Ferrymen, Software Monopolists, and Venti Double-Pump Caramel Macchiato With Extra Caramel.

But "The Seattle 0110001110010110" gets points for cracking me up.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | November 14, 2007 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Will MLS Cup 2007 be the first major US sporting final to take place during "God's time," from 9-12 on a Sunday morning? Scheduled start at 12:00 Boston, 11:00AM Houston, 10:00 AM Denver, 9:00 AM LA

I asked my co-workers in Houston if they were having any big viewing parties since these are guys who haven't missed a home game all season, and 4 out of 6 of them said they were going to be in church but would try to catch the second half.

I'm pretty sure NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL have never scheduled a final game during "god's time" and am also sure that most of the big college bowl games and the college b-ball final 4 are also held after 12pm West Coast, so will this Sunday be the first time in US sports history?

How will it affect the already low MLS Cup TV ratings considering Houston is one of the biggest church going metro areas in the US and most of the Latino fans will be in Catholic service?

Posted by: God vs. MLS Cup | November 14, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I like the Seattle Downpour

Posted by: Chico | November 14, 2007 8:24 AM | Report abuse

I'll be at church for the first half (my minister is also a DCU season ticket holder).

I would try to go to the earlier service but I am already committed to volunteering at the 11:00 service. Oh well, MLS and ABC are going to prove that MLS is still a second tier league.


Posted by: Southeasterner | November 14, 2007 8:50 AM | Report abuse

Playing Mexico in Houston pretty much should be considered a neutral site. If we were playing them in Gillette or RFK in February that would give us a home field advantage.

Posted by: Chris | November 14, 2007 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, 270, I think the FC business is as lame as Real for Salt Lake.

Let's see, we've done FC, and Real, and we've tried a year (1836) to pretend that we're just like Europeans (because we MUST emulate them, right???) so how about the Seattle Arsenal, or Inter Seattle, or AC Seattle?

Get a recognizable, LOCAL name that means something. Talk to the Suquamish respectfully and get them to lend the team their name and suggest a logo. I'd rather see the Seattle Suquamish than FC Seattle in an exhibition against Real Madrid.

Posted by: gringo | November 14, 2007 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Some potentail nicknames, good and bad:

Rain (James Taylor can sing when they play Chicago)
Jets
Hackers (especially if they pick up Franchino in the expansion draft)
Olympics
Cascades
Needles
Towers
Pikers (my favorite)
Grinders
Poets
Rockers


Posted by: Rick in Ashburn | November 14, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

seattle is considering keeping the Sounders name.
What bothers me is they also plan on playing in Qwest indefinitely. It was built with soccer in mind apparently, therefore they feel obligated to use it. Where is the SSS requirement MLS has been talking about? I just hope they have a plan to cover the football lines, because that is a huge detractor from the game.

By the way, if you want a chuckle, go read the stadium thread in the bigsoccer Seattle section. They are EXTREMELY defensive about the stadium issue.

Posted by: wisc. ave | November 14, 2007 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Beckham has an offer from Arsenal to play in the spring...

Posted by: RK | November 14, 2007 9:54 AM | Report abuse

But the offer -may- only be for him to train with them, to stay in shape -- for LA, but more for England.

Posted by: RK | November 14, 2007 9:56 AM | Report abuse

That's just ignorant. Beckham has a CONTRACT with the MLS and has repeatedly professed his love for ManU. If we ever see him in the EPL again, you can bet its going to be with the club who raised him.

Posted by: J-Mart | November 14, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

But the offer -may- only be for him to train with them, to stay in shape -- for LA, but more for England.

Posted by: RK | November 14, 2007 09:56 AM

Why would he need to stay in shape for friendlies?

:D

Posted by: Eric | November 14, 2007 9:57 AM | Report abuse

"How about we increase the salary cap so that teams can pay a decent wage to the younger players and add a few more good under the radar players (Fred!)? Or maybe keep some young gringos in the mix?"

BINGO

Posted by: DCAustinite | November 14, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

errr, however he wants to stay fit is fine with me. :)

Posted by: J-Mart | November 14, 2007 9:58 AM | Report abuse

Re: God's Time - I guess I'm one of those lukewarm types - I'm skipping choir to make sure I don't miss the last tailgate of the year.

Time is dictated by TV - ABC is also committed to broadcasting the championship-deciding final Nextel Cup race on Sunday afternoon. I'm somewhat surprised they moved the green flag back to 3:00 (usual time for an East Cost race would be 1:30) to allow them to broadcast both instead of finding a way to move the Cup final to ESPN and sticking to the usual time slot for the race.

I look forward to lots of whining on NASCAR websites complaining about the race being started late to accomodate a bunch of furriners without enough sense to use their hands.

Posted by: just sayin | November 14, 2007 10:03 AM | Report abuse

The best thing the league could do is to lower beer prices. The level of play and the refs will all look better with a good buz.

Posted by: Hacksaw | November 14, 2007 10:16 AM | Report abuse

God's time? God is busy listening to people pray for rain in Georgia.

Posted by: RK | November 14, 2007 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Skip it- God will forgive you.

Posted by: laur | November 14, 2007 11:13 AM | Report abuse

But "The Seattle 0110001110010110" gets points for cracking me up.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | November 14, 2007 08:22 AM
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If my math is right, this term translates into 25,494. Their hopes for average attendance, perhaps?

Posted by: 22201 | November 14, 2007 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists... or you don't care one way or another. Which means you're not with us.

Posted by: Joe Doc | November 14, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Why does MLS Cup even have to be on ABC? By now the vast majority of homes (and sports bars) have cable or satellite access, and virtually all of them carry BSPN and BSPN2. At 3:30 p.m. EST Sunday BSPN will be showing a figure skating competition, and BSPN2 will be showing a women's college basketball game (Texas-Tennessee, so it should be a good one, but still early in the season).

Posted by: 22201 | November 14, 2007 11:54 AM | Report abuse

RE: God's time

Don't most churches nowadays offer alternate services at differing times throughout the week and Sunday?

RE: Seattle's name; Euro vs. USA

I watch the EPL throughout the weekend, almost all of the games, but I look forward to MLS games more because I have a much greater rooting interest. My hometown club competes in MLS. True, the quality of play is much higher in England, but my hometown club competes in MLS.

For the team name, why not compromise? Instead of adopting a European name, take one from Africa. Ghana's King Faisal club to be specific.

The Seattle Babies.

Posted by: spectre | November 14, 2007 7:54 PM | Report abuse

The Seattle 0110001110010110

or is that too long?

Posted by: e | November 13, 2007 09:39 PM

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Shortened to 0x6396 (base 16) or 25494 (base 10).

e- well done!

Posted by: Chris | November 15, 2007 10:47 PM | Report abuse

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