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United Wrap-Up, Houston Rally

United reflects on an unfulfilling year and looks to the future.

The latest on Poplar Point.

Defending champion Houston rallies from two down in the series to defeat Dallas in overtime in front of 30,000.

Red Bulls-Revolution tonight (Fox Soccer Channel).

Maryland-Virginia tonight.

Wizards-Chivas USA late tonight.

By Steve Goff  |  November 3, 2007; 9:39 AM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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I still can't believe MLS Cup will be at RFK without DCU.

Posted by: Rocko | November 3, 2007 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Goffinho: Will you be at Ludwig Field tonight, either to file a story for the Post or on your own? Will the Post be covering more college action as the NCAA postseason approaches? What other things will be priorities for you and your editors during the MLS offseason?

Posted by: 22201 | November 3, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

As loyal bloggers know, the writing was certainly on the wall for the early exit. It is hard not to want to assess blame -- but there is surely enough to go around. As a high level coach said to me recently, the players have to want to win -- and that is something that cannot be coached.

The intensity and desire that appeared in the second half shows that the desire (and talent) is there, but it wasn't there in the away match (team possibly just assumed it would come home and win out) and it also did not really show up until a few minutes before our first goal in the 2nd half in the home match.

Whomever is the team leader has to emerge in these matches like a California wildfire -- intense, relentless, enveloping, with a fight to the death mentality on every challenge -- someone who can light the match under the seat of the pants of every player on the team.

Posted by: MR Caretaker | November 3, 2007 10:51 AM | Report abuse

If one of the plans with a stadium is choosen - who would own the stadium? Would DC United have to enter into a lease agreement like they have for RFK?

Posted by: emanon | November 3, 2007 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Seven Polar Pt proposals - two have stadiums. which are optional according tot he article. Looks like no stadium there 0- certainly no with DCU. Fenty can still dump the whjole process and go back to McFarlane - but he's too arrogant to consider that, even if all the proposals are weak.

Posted by: Nogra Rover | November 3, 2007 11:32 AM | Report abuse

If one of the plans with a stadium is choosen - who would own the stadium? Would DC United have to enter into a lease agreement like they have for RFK?

Posted by: emanon | November 3, 2007 11:04 AM
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There are a number of options here, such as giving someone such as MacFarlane a 99-year lease on the land and letting them build and operate the stadium. I believe the deal between the Crew and the Ohio State Fairgrounds is roughly along these lines.

MacFarlane had earlier expressed interest in teaming up with a bidder. However, the article does not indicate whether MacFarlane is a subcontractor to either of the two bidders who proposed a stadium, or indeed any of the other bidders.

Posted by: 22201 | November 3, 2007 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Fenty can still dump the whjole process and go back to McFarlane - but he's too arrogant to consider that, even if all the proposals are weak.

Posted by: Nogra Rover | November 3, 2007 11:32 AM
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In fairness to the other bidders, they could argue that if their proposals look weak, that is only because they were working within the constraints specified in the RFEI, and MacFarlane was not. They could argue that if those constraints are relaxed or removed for MacFarlane, well, what's sauce for the goose...

Posted by: 22201 | November 3, 2007 12:40 PM | Report abuse

To repeat what I posted in an earlier thread, in front of the BSPN2 cameras on Thursday evening, Payne made comments suggesting that discussions with unnamed parties associated with certain potential MD venues were going very nicely, thank you.

Posted by: 22201 | November 3, 2007 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Goffinho: Will you be at Ludwig Field tonight, either to file a story for the Post or on your own? Will the Post be covering more college action as the NCAA postseason approaches? What other things will be priorities for you and your editors during the MLS offseason?
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Yes, I plan to cover tonight's game in College Park. We will do a bit of college coverage, but much of it will depend on how many locals make the NCAA tournament. The priority is MLS Cup at RFK -- plenty of stories the week leading up to the match.

Posted by: Goff | November 3, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Mark my words -- United is leaving DC. I would love to eat a crow sandwich and wash it down with a glass of shut the hell up, but I don't think its gonna happen. They are done in DC.

Personally, if not in DC I would prefer Alexandria somewhere or something right of the Beltway in MD. Also, no weeknight games unless they start at 8:00 or 8:30.

Let's just hope a new stadium is ready for 2010.

Posted by: steve-o | November 3, 2007 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Poplar Point:

"Thank you Kevin for this D.C. United jersey and congratulations on your terrific season," Fenty said. "It is great to see over 20,000 fans here at RFK supporting D.C. United. It is my hope that your fans will soon be coming to your brand new soccer stadium at Poplar Point in Anacostia. World class fans, and a world class team like D.C. United, deserve a world class stadium. And I am going to make it a priority to help you build that stadium. Thank you -- congratulations and good luck to the Black-and-Red!"

-Adrian Fenty on Oct 29 2006 (right before a mayoral elction mind you)

link to full article: http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20061031&content_id=77524&vkey=news_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103

Posted by: Macho Man Randy Savage | November 3, 2007 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, based on the above stadium article, that seems to be the death knell for a DCU stadium at Poplar Point. I hope the DC gov't enjoys getting fleeced...They'll still have to spend a few hundred million $$$ on infrastructure but won't have the kind of higher-density development that would offer a reasonable return on that investment to offset that cost. Idiots. Not that I expected anything different from the DC gov't, mind you.

Posted by: entropy | November 3, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

so what exactly did Alvarez do to get sent off? The replay was inconclusive at best. Was it just matter of the Houston defender conning the referee?

Posted by: Glenn | November 3, 2007 6:11 PM | Report abuse

i watched the game live, they didn't have a good angle on it, they said he kneed or kicked him in the groin, alvarez did not protest, dallas had a few players more concerned on who they could hit than playing soccer, houston buried them for this, a lesson that dc could have used,
did you see the dallas guy (Serioux) walk on top of the houston player, i would give him a suspension, Ruiz is a bum, his attitude is awful, what a waste, get rid of him, did you see his red card performance recently in the mexico match.
I still haven't forgiven Gomez for spitting on another player, not the person I want to cheer for either really

Posted by: Atlanta | November 3, 2007 8:57 PM | Report abuse

NE vs Chicago in the Eastern Conference Championship - guess I'll be rooting for NE.

Jozy might have gotten re-injured near the end of the match, but if he is okay, now that NY is out and not playing on the 18th in the Cup will he get a USMNT call-up against South Africa ?

Posted by: emanon | November 3, 2007 9:40 PM | Report abuse

where is the start of the chivas game? its 30 minutes late?

Posted by: Anonymous | November 3, 2007 9:54 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Hard to say anyone deserved to win the NY-NE match. Tough break for NY when Angel went out, but he was clearly dazed.

Twellman almost blew the goal. Wells Thompson was a force for NE, but everyone else was standing around a little too much.

Posted by: New England Guy | November 3, 2007 10:04 PM | Report abuse

whats up with reyna, what happened this season, injuries? will he be back?

Posted by: Anonymous | November 3, 2007 10:05 PM | Report abuse

One more thing. I like Reyna, but there's no easier pre-game prediction than, "I bet Reyna gets hurt and plays like 20 minutes." If they had odds on that in Vegas, you would have to bet $10000 just to win $1. Fred Taylor doesn't get hurt his much.

Posted by: New England Guy | November 3, 2007 10:07 PM | Report abuse

1030 start according to MLS tv

Posted by: JSF | November 3, 2007 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I get the double idiot award, i set my clocks already for the time change tonight, but I changed it ahead instead of back so I have 11:30, when it is 10:30, but I should have put it at 9:30 which by my clock i have an hour til kickoff, sorry for this lame post.

was weather a big factor in boston? will juan pablo angel be back?

Posted by: atlanta | November 3, 2007 10:25 PM | Report abuse

wow....every DC team has lost in the past 3 days...rough times in the district...

Posted by: Sad Emoticon | November 3, 2007 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Bruce. Get your coaching tips from Greg Ryan? Playing a man down while your striker is begging to go back in with a concussion was reckless.

And it cost you.

Big ups to DirecTV for not having the Chivas game on 785 right now.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: JayRockers! | November 3, 2007 10:40 PM | Report abuse

wasn't galindo injured?

Posted by: Anonymous | November 3, 2007 11:10 PM | Report abuse

would of liked united to come out like chivas has

Posted by: Anonymous | November 3, 2007 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Again, it looks like UVA is wildly overrated. They're just not gellin. They play too many hopeful longballs. I hope the UVA fans were loud, though.

Posted by: UVA to RFK | November 3, 2007 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Goats keep trying to force the action down the left wing...announcers keep saying they need to show some balance. They're playing good possession soccer, but they need to put it in the back of the net! Twice preferably, but at least once...

VAMOS LOS GOATS

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 3, 2007 11:53 PM | Report abuse

They just panned around part of the HDC stands...sure are a lot of empty seats.

Shame, too.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2007 12:04 AM | Report abuse

all 8 wizard fans must be ecstatic

i don't like chicago, nor eddie johnson so I want houston-new england with houston winning,

2 posts = 1 goal, right? come on chivas, score

Posted by: atlanta | November 4, 2007 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Well, we have our conference finals:

East: Chicago at New England, 11/8
West: Kansas City at Houston, 11/10

I'm seeing a rematch of MLS Cup 2006 coming...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | November 4, 2007 12:32 AM | Report abuse

could those drums be any bigger?
that game was boring, kansas city, come on, kansas city is terrible, whats up chivas,

i hope eddie johnson puts "4 real" in his hair again so I can laugh at him some more

Posted by: atlanta | November 4, 2007 12:36 AM | Report abuse

Or a Rematch of the last MLS Cup in DC

Chicago vs. KC Wizards

Lets hope that's not the case.

Posted by: Red Devil | November 4, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

Soccer is for chumps.

Posted by: Adrian Fenty | November 4, 2007 12:37 AM | Report abuse

How in the world can you say that Chivas-KC game was boring are you on the same planet? SOCCER SEEMS TO BE WAY OVER YOUR HEAD FENTY. Go play an easy game please where you sratch yourself all day eating a hot dog.

Posted by: Dc United | November 4, 2007 12:42 AM | Report abuse

KC vs. Chicago,
i would try to sell my ticket.

I might have to label it on ebay as
"a night with placido domingo" to get anyone interested

Posted by: atlanta | November 4, 2007 12:49 AM | Report abuse

winning a supporters shield is suddenly cause for an "unfulfilling" season!? get off your your dcu high horse sir you can't win em all. you were in every major comp this year played some inspiring soccer had the best overall record had the leading goal scorer for the season and in mls history. wah wah wah oh well i guess there is always next year.

Posted by: MarkVA | November 4, 2007 1:34 AM | Report abuse

the goal was mls cup, #1, this season was great but fell short off its goal, fell short in all the tournaments.

Posted by: Atlanta | November 4, 2007 1:50 AM | Report abuse

UVA and Maryland looked super weak. How both of those teams are ranked is beyond me.

I hope Yannick Reyering is fine. He should be DC United's future striker.

Posted by: BI | November 4, 2007 1:57 AM | Report abuse

I'm pulling for a KC v. Chicago MLS cup. A 7th v. 8th classic.

Posted by: Tommie | November 4, 2007 10:50 AM | Report abuse

If it comes down to a KC vs. Chicago Final could they skip the 0-0 regular time and 0-0 overtime and go straight to the shootout?

I'm also wondering how MLS Cup would have done had LA or Chivas made the final. 9 AM Pacific time for a sports final? Come on MLS.

After watching Flamenco vs. Corinthians in Rio live I have to say every other sport and league has a long way to go...including the NFL and college football.

Posted by: Southeasterner | November 4, 2007 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Weather was awful, but the field(turf) looked like it held up pretty well in Boston. From what the announcers said, it actually stopped raining late in the first half. I think wind was a much bigger factor. In the Globe this morning, Twellman blamed the wind for why he almost botched his goal.

Posted by: New England Guy | November 4, 2007 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"I hope Yannick Reyering is fine. He should be DC United's future striker. "

Trust me, we don't want him. He doesn't play very hard (or he has no endurance), he has no finesse, and he's not that tall (6'6 i believe).

Zola Short, on the other hand is a stud on defense. Ironically enough, however, he's too short to play center back.

Posted by: UVA to RFK | November 4, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Interesting that Kraft is invested enough in his team to be down on the field with that happy smile congratulating them. Wish he was so invested that he'd build a soccer specific stadium. Gillette is beautiful, but it's just too damned big for MLS.

And props to George Solomon today in the lead-off section of his Sunday column: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/03/AR2007110300805.html

His point: United fans deserved better.

Thanks, George. You nailed that one.

Posted by: seahawkdad | November 4, 2007 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"NE vs Chicago in the Eastern Conference Championship - guess I'll be rooting for NE."
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Gawd, can you imagine Boston if it wins MLB, MLS *AND* NFL all within one year? They'll be even more insufferable...

Posted by: Juan-John | November 4, 2007 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I was pulling for Chivas in United's absense. Now I just don't know who to root for.

Posted by: Shatz / DCUMD | November 4, 2007 12:48 PM | Report abuse

There is no team to root for me. I will just go there and observe the event. It will be a dead zone for the mls cup without United.

Posted by: td | November 4, 2007 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey Goffino. When does the MLS transfer window open? Do you know of any impending DCU transfers?

Posted by: Gus | November 4, 2007 9:05 PM | Report abuse

I had a very clear look at it as it was right in front of me. Alvarez was sent off for kneeing Brad Davis in a certain area of the anatomy that we don't like to discuss in a family forum. The ball was out of bounds in the corner and Davis brushed past Alvarez o get it. Apparently Arturo took exception to it and up came the knew, then out came the red card.

But you know, the person most deserving of the card was Carlos Ruiz. The guy was taken off the field on a gurney, for goodness' sakes, and then 20 second later he sprints back onto the field. This guy makes Dida's dive against Celtic look like the stuff of amateur dinner theatre. The Little Fish should be suspended for this. If the game was on ESPN2, it would have been an embarrassment for the league. All in all, the candy canes got 8 cards! Eight cards!!! Dynamo did everyone in the league a favor by beating those headhunters.

Posted by: VivaNaranja en Houston | November 5, 2007 11:49 AM | Report abuse

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