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Afternoon Update

*The rumblings about Carlos Ruiz leaving Dallas are getting louder. Several sources tell me the Guatemalan forward is almost surely leaving FCD. Will he land back in L.A.? If so, is the league okay with Ruiz, Donovan and Beckham on the same roster? Or will he go elsewhere? Someone mentioned New York as a possible destination, but I find that one hard to believe. If anyone sees a link to Ruiz news in the Spanish-language media, please post it in the comments section.

*The USA under-23 lineup for the 0-0 tie at China today:

USA: 1-Chris Seitz; 17-Marvell Wynne (21-Mike Randolph, 74), 4-Maurice Edu, 6-Patrick Ianni, 9-Hunter Freeman; 15-Stuart Holden (12-Robbie Rogers, 72), 16-Sacha Kljestan (capt.), 19-Dax McCarty, 2-Arturo Alvarez (13-Michael Harrington, 80); 7-Charlie Davies (14-Tim Ward, 88), 3-Jozy Altidore (8-Robbie Findley, 68)
Subs not used: 18- Zac MacMath, 10-Jon Leathers, 11-Aaron Hohlbein.

Looks like Edu was used in the back -- interesting. Zizzo was scratched because of an ankle injury. The teams will play again this weekend.

By Steve Goff  |  December 13, 2007; 12:41 PM ET
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Comments

Why is Tim Ward still in contention? Dear god.

Posted by: Colm | December 13, 2007 12:57 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I have seen is this:

http://www.elperiodico.com.gt/es/20071211/deportes/46569/

It says he signed a contract with the Gals.

"Estoy muy contento. Creí que volver al Galaxy y jugar al lado de Beckham iba a ser un sueño imposible, pero afortunadamente mi representante llegó a un acuerdo (ayer por la tarde). Directivos de la MLS y del Galaxy me confirmaron mi regreso al equipo angelino", comentó.

"I am very happy. I believe that returning to the Galaxy and playing alongside Beckham would be an impossible dream, but fortunately my repsrentative came to an agreement (yesterday afternoon). MLS Directors and the Galaxy confirmed my return," said Ruiz.

Posted by: Lost in BA | December 13, 2007 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Sorry - meant to add that that was from a Guatemalan paper. I believe the article is from the 11th, so it appears outdated and possibly inaccurate or at least inconsistent.

Posted by: Lost in BA | December 13, 2007 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm having a hard time getting my head around why anyone would want this guy. His antics are embarassing, he cheats constantly, he's expensive, and he performed poorly with arguably the best service in the league. He's an absolute waist of a player.

Posted by: DigzTFC | December 13, 2007 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Umm, I thought the reason the three team deal went dead was that MLS didn't want Ruiz with the Gals. What, did someone change their mind last night? Wells looks like a promising keeper, but I think Cannon would have been better for us.

Posted by: Dude....wait, what? | December 13, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

0-0 with China? Are you f-ing kidding me?

Posted by: bristol | December 13, 2007 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Waist of a player? Are you calling Ruiz fat? :)

Posted by: RK | December 13, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, was this the full Chinese national team that our u-23's played against, or their u-23's? Also, why in the hell aren't Bornstein & Guzan on the u-23 team? Unless I'm mistaken, they're both 23 and won't turn 24 til after the Olympics.

Posted by: jrnail | December 13, 2007 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Never mind what the league thinks -- is Beckham okay with Ruiz on his roster?

Posted by: gringo | December 13, 2007 1:17 PM | Report abuse

If Ruiz goes to LA, one can only assume that MLS will once again backtrack on the gradfathered players again and grant them another year. How LA thinks they could put out a competitive team with 3 players taking up about 1.1 million of the cap is beyond me. Leave about 1.15 million for the other 15 guys on the 18 man roster.

Posted by: GLC123 | December 13, 2007 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I would not get too upset about the result against China. Many of our top flight players were not on the team b/c they kicking some ass in Europe (ex. Adu and M. Bradley). I definitely see the US earning a medal this summer, and bringing some momentum to the US program.

Posted by: DC United Fan | December 13, 2007 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Ruiz may very well end up in LA as I believe Landon is headed back to San Jose. I don't see Donovan as taking a back seat to Beckham for a whole season and going to a team where he will be the "star" again is what he wants.

He doesn't even have to leave his house in LA.

I actually like Ruiz (and hate him at the same time). He is petulant and cheap (occasionaly dirty) but he is one of MLS rare game-changing players and getting service from Beckham can only help get him back on track. Remember the time he ate Eddie Pope for lunch - I still do (it is seared into my memory).

Posted by: James | December 13, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Maybe NY is the destination for Cannon in the same way that DC was the destination for Cannon in the rumored LA-Dallas-DC trade.

Just speculating here, but Freeman and cash (rather than Boswell, cash and a pick) to Dallas/Ruiz to LA/Cannon (and something?) to New York?

Posted by: Doug | December 13, 2007 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"Waist of a player?"

If we are going to use body parts in our talk about Ruiz one could swap waist for:

"An elbow of a player"

or

"An ankle of a player"

Posted by: shirteesdotnet | December 13, 2007 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Good lord, for the last time: Donovan IS NOT GOING TO SAN JOSE! He doesn't want to, he wants to play in L.A., he's got no problem sharing the spotlight with Beckham.

Posted by: Nelson | December 13, 2007 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I disagree about Donovan. We shall see how things shake out.

Posted by: James | December 13, 2007 1:43 PM | Report abuse

James how far do you think San Jose is from LA?

Posted by: dwbpnm | December 13, 2007 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Good lord, for the last time: Donovan IS NOT GOING TO SAN JOSE! He doesn't want to, he wants to play in L.A., he's got no problem sharing the spotlight with Beckham.

Posted by: Nelson | December 13, 2007 01:32 PM

What Donovan wants Donovan gets? Who are you Bruce Arena?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 13, 2007 1:48 PM | Report abuse

DC United Fan -- agreed, the future is definitely a bright one from this vantage point.

Posted by: iammrben | December 13, 2007 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"His antics are embarassing, he cheats constantly, he's expensive, and he performed poorly with arguably the best service in the league. He's an absolute waist of a player."

Ok, you are an idiot. Ruiz doesn't cheat, he dives and complains, but he doesn't cheat.
Where was the best service in the league coming from, surely it wasn't in Dallas.

"Waist of a player" clueless..

Posted by: What? | December 13, 2007 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"Waist of a player? Are you calling Ruiz fat? :)"

I think he meant that Ruiz cannot stay above his waist for long, i.e. always diving.

Posted by: Jose | December 13, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

San Jose is a little over a 4 hour drive up the 101 (shorter on the 5 - but why would anyone put themselves through that torture). I used to live in San Francisco and now am back in Los Angeles (supporting Chivas when DC is not in town).

Posted by: James | December 13, 2007 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Well I don't know if any of these site can be believed but here is a new one:

http://pcgol.com/Data/varios941.htm

Posted by: Ed | December 13, 2007 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Diving is a form of cheating, IMO.

Posted by: voyager | December 13, 2007 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who continue to insist that Landon is San Jose bound clearly don't have any idea what you are talking about.

Posted by: Mike (From LA) | December 13, 2007 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Ruiz to Houston! He could room with Ricardo Clark on road trips.

Seriously, L.A. is making another mistake if they re-acquire El Pescadito. He's not the answer to their problems up front. Please remind me why Alexi Lalas still has a job?

Posted by: SSMD | December 13, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

No one (aside from Steve) really have any idea what we are talking about - just making guess and speculating on available info. Those of us that are speculating on Donovan (seems to be just me) are just operating under a foolish belief that MLS might try some Galaxy welfare reform.

Landon may not be long for this league (or he may go to San Jose). I am just getting tired of the Galaxy Welfare state.

Cheers,
James

Posted by: James | December 13, 2007 2:23 PM | Report abuse

That is a strange article. It says Ruiz is going to LA on loan. On loan in MLS? Maybe there is some stipulation that Dallas has to pick up the excess pay or something??? Or the writer has no clue what he is talking about. It also says his contract stipulates that he is available for WCQ for Guatemala. An interesting stipulation that seems unnecessary.

Posted by: Lost in BA | December 13, 2007 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if China had all its stars and we sent our Copa America team. It's embarrassing to get a result like that.

Not unless all our players got the bird flu before the game.

Posted by: bristol | December 13, 2007 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"Diving is a form of cheating"
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Then 95 percent of the footballing world cheats. Only the Brits don't dive (Well, aside from Michael Owen when he plays Argentina)

Posted by: nuthugger | December 13, 2007 2:36 PM | Report abuse

KC closer to $1 billion development that includes soccer stadium ...

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/401551.html

Posted by: JP | December 13, 2007 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Then 95 percent of the footballing world cheats. Only the Brits don't dive (Well, aside from Michael Owen when he plays Argentina)

Posted by: nuthugger | December 13, 2007 02:36 PM
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And Steven Gerrard in cup finals. (I'm a Liverpool fan, but seriously.)

Posted by: Amanda | December 13, 2007 2:41 PM | Report abuse

An 18,500-seat stadium - LAME!

KC should relocate to StL and be done with it.

Posted by: Roger Davies | December 13, 2007 2:42 PM | Report abuse

An 18,500-seat stadium - LAME!

Posted by: Roger Davies | December 13, 2007 02:42 PM
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Roger, they only have 7,000 fans. With 18,500 seats, each spectator can put his barbecue and beer on the empty seat next to him.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | December 13, 2007 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if China had all its stars and we sent our Copa America team. It's embarrassing to get a result like that.

Not unless all our players got the bird flu before the game.
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Nonsense. Like in most friendlies, winning is secondary to evaluating your players and learning about your team. It's a tie far from home in a meaningless game (meaningless from a results standpoint, anyway) without your top European players. If this had occurred at home with a full lineup a week before the Olympic qualifiers, your outrage would be justified. But not now after a game like this.

Posted by: Goff | December 13, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Nowak is still tinkering with the 5 man mids. I wonder if that had an impact on the scoring (or lack thereof). You know it takes some time to adjust to a formation that you don't normally play. But hopefully with a couple more games and a couple of camps this team will put it together. I think there are some talented players on that roster, even without some big names.

Posted by: Matte | December 13, 2007 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Getting kinda quiet around hear Goff, American soccer journalists are bush league. A good English soccer reporter woulda just made something up by now...

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The new American past-time: Steroids!

Posted by: Soy United! | December 13, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

It's as American as baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet!

Posted by: Soy United! | December 13, 2007 3:28 PM | Report abuse

"Diving is a form of cheating, IMO."

Ok, every striker in the world is a cheater.

Posted by: Joe | December 13, 2007 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Diving is, indeed, cheating, and is officially cause for a warning. Read Law 12 and the decision of the International Board. "Any simulating action anywhere on the
field, which is intended to deceive the
referee, must be sanctioned as unsporting
behavior."

Personally, I would like to see a LOT more cards for dives. I think diving is a low, dirty, cheaty thing to do and should get a nice,s tiff fine along with the caution. Talk about bringing the game into disrepute.

Posted by: Grumpy the Ref | December 13, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

18,500 is about the size of an average NBA arena, which many teams still have trouble filling. It'll be a good size for a medium-size market like KC.
And hey, at least they're getting a stadium...

Posted by: wisc ave. | December 13, 2007 3:41 PM | Report abuse

All is quiet. No DCU news today. Perkins announcement won't happen until he passes the physical next week.

I'm off to Cary tomorrow for the final four...

Posted by: Goff | December 13, 2007 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Grumpy the Ref. Diving may be "part of the game" but it's still cheating.

Posted by: GDopplerXT | December 13, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Also, why in the hell aren't Bornstein & Guzan on the u-23 team? Unless I'm mistaken, they're both 23 and won't turn 24 til after the Olympics.
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Under 23 means just that. Bornstein and Guzan can only be considered for the three overage slots, but they'll be competing against all the other senior internationals.

Posted by: 22201 | December 13, 2007 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't read too much into the Guatemalan article pertaining to Ruiz.

If you read the article close enough, you'll notice that they never actually attribute the comments they quoted to Ruiz. They imply that he made the comments that are quoted, but they don't actually state "said Ruiz" or the like.

In any case, I hope he doesn't come to my beloved Galaxy. I grew tired of his poor attitude on and off the pitch very early into his second year with LA.

Posted by: Pinguino | December 13, 2007 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Steven.
La brujita Veron..hiS contract is finished with DC..?
He gonna talk with us in ESPNDEEPORTES RADIO...LIKE PLAYER OF DC UNITED..
Do you have more about that.

GRacias amigo.

Elmer

Posted by: elmer | December 13, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Steven.
La brujita Veron..hiS contract is finished with DC..?
He gonna talk with us in ESPNDEEPORTES RADIO...LIKE PLAYER OF DC UNITED..
Do you have more about that.

GRacias amigo.

Elmer

Posted by: elmer | December 13, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

"Under 23 means just that. Bornstein and Guzan can only be considered for the three overage slots, but they'll be competing against all the other senior internationals."

Well, close to that anyway. The cutoff date is 1 January 1985, and Bornstein and Guzan are both '84s.

Posted by: Stan | December 13, 2007 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"San Jose is a little over a 4 hour drive up the 101 (shorter on the 5 - but why would anyone put themselves through that torture)."

You must live in a world without traffic. (agree with you on skipping the smells on I-5 though). Instead, use the daily commuter cheap flights every 15 minutes. Put that together with the Registered Traveler program where you fly through security. It's a pretty quick commute that TONS of people have done. Personally, I'd rather Donovan stay in LA.

Posted by: LeesburgSoccerFan | December 13, 2007 4:42 PM | Report abuse

I'm off to Cary tomorrow for the final four...


Posted by: Goff | December 13, 2007 04:01 PM
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This is welcome news. The weather forecast for Cary looks favorable, unlike conditions for three of the four games last weekend.

Does anyone know where alumni and other partisans of the four teams (Tech, Wake, OSU, UMass) are planning to gather to watch these games on BSPN2 and BSPNU?

Posted by: 22201 | December 13, 2007 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Donovan can stay in LA and not play for the Galaxy

Posted by: Chivas Regal anyone? | December 13, 2007 5:06 PM | Report abuse

An 18,500-seat stadium - LAME!

KC should relocate to StL and be done with it.

Posted by: Roger Davies | December 13, 2007 02:42 PM


Wasn't our average in DC this season around 18,000? It sounds like the perfect size.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 13, 2007 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Donovan is clearly on his way to San Jose. He can't handle the pressure in LA. The David Beckham Circus was too much for him. Too much spotlight on the team. Too much like Bayer Leverkusen on that Champions League night. The night of horrors for stone feet Landi. The night his hairline receded like a Greenland glacier. In San Jose he can tuck away. Nice and safe with no one watching that intently.

Posted by: Landon to San Jose | December 13, 2007 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't our average in DC this season around 18,000? It sounds like the perfect size.
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You have to plan to accommodate the peak crowds, not the average. Also, you have to believe that your fan base will grow over time. Otherwise, why bother?

Posted by: 22201 | December 13, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't our average in DC this season around 18,000? It sounds like the perfect size.


Posted by: | December 13, 2007 05:48 PM


D.C. United 15 games 314,506 total attendance 20,967 average.

Posted by: 20,967 | December 13, 2007 5:54 PM | Report abuse

Goff, I saw Boswell was introduced to the Houston media already. Any idea when we will introduce Wells?

Also, in case anyone missed it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzCB68qIHVg&eurl=http://www.bobbyboswell.com/

Posted by: Mike | December 13, 2007 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Minus Beckham, it was 19130, and that's with a good year.

Don't scoff at KC's 18000, Sour Grapes United fans. It'll be a great size and really help the atmosphere compared to Arrowhead Mausoleum.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | December 13, 2007 6:18 PM | Report abuse

We should have more talent overall but I don't think a scoreless tie in China is a bad result for our Olympic hopefuls.

Since the Chinese are hosting this shindig next year and they played the game in front of a fairly loud crowd I think they were probably taking the game pretty seriously. This game was probably a more reliable indicator than the u-17 victory over Brazil a few days ago.

But it's still more about evaluation for the coaches and familiarization to playing with each other for the players than it is about the result.

The only results that really matter are next March when the CONCACAF tourney decides which 2 countries will go to China.

Posted by: garbaggio | December 13, 2007 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Goff...

Bobbyboswell.com is reporting that DCU have reacquired Eskandarian. Is this true?

He's at Standard Liege right now on trial.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 13, 2007 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Derr...

I'm an idiot.

He is at Liege though.

Posted by: Anonymous | December 13, 2007 6:29 PM | Report abuse

0-0 with China? Are you f-ing kidding me?

Posted by: bristol | December 13, 2007 01:12 PM
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My thoughts exactly. Not good. China is not a good team at all. The U-23's really should have been able to muster 1 goal.

I don't like using Edu in the back especially since he showed such great skill in the center of the pitch v. South Africa. Maybe Bradley instructed Nowak to do it. Weird. Good to see Arturo get a call up. Dangerous offensive weapon. Mind slips out of the game defensively sometimes but he's still young.

Posted by: papa bear | December 13, 2007 7:06 PM | Report abuse

LOL @ jagoffs complaining about KC's stadium size (at least they'll HAVE a stadium...and not in the boonies like Dallas) and LA/grandfathered slots (they should have been grandfathered until the end of their contracts from the beginning...the league pays the contract). So what if they have Beckham, Ruiz, AND Donovan?!? DC can get Veron and trade for Eddie Johnson and Ruiz. Do you really want to do that?...Such idiotic paranoia.

Posted by: M | December 13, 2007 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Steve, don't you think a Ruiz to Columbus deal makes sense? There is history between Sigi and Ruiz and the Crew have plenty of allocation money from missing the playoffs the past two years...

Posted by: Matt | December 13, 2007 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Minus Beckham, it was 19130, and that's with a good year.

Don't scoff at KC's 18000, Sour Grapes United fans. It'll be a great size and really help the atmosphere compared to Arrowhead Mausoleum.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | December 13, 2007 06:18 PM

Oh, I forgot to add that our attendance without Beckham wasn't that great either. Ours was like 1,500. Really, you could count the people some nights. Doesn't look good for when Red Bull Park opens. I hope we're not embarrassed by a half-full stadium on opening night. Hopefully we play DC United so we can get a full house, even if it'll be all of their fans traveling to Harrison. I have to wonder how long Red Bull will stick with it. It seems they have no plan anyhow. No coach yet, despite all of the Osario rumors. No plan for the future. Man, I wish we were DC United. Kevin Payne, et al., they're the class of the league. The Red Bulls? We suck.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | December 13, 2007 11:00 PM | Report abuse

goff, you been relatively muted on the topic of the Osorio move. What really went down there, as far as you know? there have been varying reports, as I'm sure you've noticed. What did you hear? thanks.

Posted by: furia yanqui | December 14, 2007 12:15 AM | Report abuse

GOFF!!!!!

WHERE ARE YOU AT THIS TIME OF NIGHT!!!!

:)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/soccer/12/13/veron.mls/

SI is reporting we've signed Veron!

Posted by: Phillip | December 14, 2007 1:21 AM | Report abuse

wake up Senior Goff! :) We need to know more about Veron's signing with us!

And while you're at it, who else are we gonna get? I heard a rumor about another Argentine and also that we are still trying to get Big Head Ruy from Brazil?

Posted by: Anonymous | December 14, 2007 1:43 AM | Report abuse

I-270: Good one. Heh-heh. Barbecue grill in the seat next to them. Heh-heh. The question isn't whether an 18,500 seat stadium is small, the question is why are they still trying to invest in Kansas City? They won't fill that stadium! There have to be better markets. Instead of expanding, move the Wizards to Philly, St. Louis, or Portland, or some other place where they might draw 17-18,000. Even when the league realizes Garber's dream and reaches 20 teams -- are you going to tell me that you think KC is one of the top 20 markets? If not, please tell me what are they thinking?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | December 14, 2007 2:08 AM | Report abuse

As for Veron...Gracias a Dios. Bienvenidos a Juan Sebastien. Now, where is this Wednesday public unveiling going to occur? I just gots to be there....

La Brujita. La Brujita. La Brujita. Por favor, damanos Leroy Lita.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | December 14, 2007 2:26 AM | Report abuse

This report from Italy mentions Veron, Lopez and Ruy.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=83323

Thoughts?

Posted by: WE NEED ANSWERS :) | December 14, 2007 2:28 AM | Report abuse

Also this report goff from Clarin, the biggest newspaper in Argentina that the Veron deal IS NOT going to happen.
http://www.ole.clarin.com/notas/2007/12/14/01564181.html

And that he said he is putting his ties to Estudiantes over money, which he would have gotten in DC. Said he saw fans on their knees begging him to stay. And that he decided to play so he can make sure they do well in the libertadores, as a group they got their, and as a group they will do good there also.


Could you clear all this up? I expect something in the morning most likely, knowing how Mr. Goff works!

Posted by: Bolivian DC Fan | December 14, 2007 3:16 AM | Report abuse

I saw on the ticker on Sky News that Veron will sign for D.C. tomorrow when his contract with Estudiantes ends.

Posted by: andrew | December 14, 2007 3:35 AM | Report abuse

So does this mean that every Argentinian in the metropolitan area will be going to DCU games this upcoming season? The ones who weren't excited enough over Gomez, Filomeno, Erpen, . . .?

Posted by: Glaucon | December 14, 2007 5:09 AM | Report abuse

VERON DEAL DONE! Hey Goff - WAKE UP!!! SI.COM is reporting on it's front page that the $3.4 million per year deal is done and that DCU will be holding a press conference with the Argentine star on Wednesday. What gives?

Posted by: Hmmm | December 14, 2007 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Interesting...Lopez, Ruy, and Veron. Those 3 together would make sense. Depth for the back line, a partner for Emilio, and Veron. We'd probably still have some cap space leftover too.


VAMOS UNITED!

Posted by: strago | December 14, 2007 7:11 AM | Report abuse

The Sports Illustrated story says he is coming.

The Clarin story says he is not coming.

Which is is?

Posted by: Jose | December 14, 2007 7:16 AM | Report abuse

"contract officially runs out and is scheduled to arrive in Washington D.C. on Wednesday for an introductory press conference"

Goff,

I really hope the Post people can get this story front and center in the Thursday edition.

Posted by: Coverage | December 14, 2007 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Are all of these "rumors" based on the Playitusa.com article? It seems like SI and tuttomercato copied it word for word.

I'm sure Goff will have the official notice. SI has been wrong before.

Posted by: Southeasterner | December 14, 2007 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Hmm.... Who to trust, SI, or Clarin? Tough call, but I'm going with SI. BTW. Goff's favorite rumor site got this one right, wonder how much else they're getting right these days. I won't link because it is verboten, but you regular readers know what I mean the title is soemthing like, "US Professional Soccer League Rumors....."

Posted by: DJC | December 14, 2007 8:51 AM | Report abuse

for Clarin to be wrong, either something spectacular will happen suddenly or this is the work of an Argentine Jayson Blair. because they report Veron's own words are that he is staying with Estudiantes to play in the copa Libertadores. They say DC offered him $10 million and an ownership stake in the club and he had a ticket to fly to DC on the 17th. But he decided just yesterday and informed Estudiantes of that. They say he was 90 percent sure of going to DC but his buddies on the team, while sipping mate with him, said, "It took us a year to get to the Copa and we need to go together." He said the money was very attractive but it is more important to him to do what he wants to do, because he is a fan of Estudiantes.

if money was his only motivation to go the USA -- and there is no indication in this article that he had any other desire to be in the USA except to take his kids to Disney -- then it's probably for the best. Still, I do feel for the DC fans, because he is a good player and it says the team pursued him for four months and nearly had him.

Posted by: furia yanqui | December 14, 2007 10:37 AM | Report abuse

U23 vs China U23....watched the game, could have easily been 2-0 China. China missed 3-4 'sitters' including 1 in extratime. Not a good result, the interesting part is that the US easily controlled possession, China played counter and exposed the back line early and often with their nice long diagonal passes. Back Line of Wynn, Edu, Ianni & Freeman struggled all night.
Nowak had his middies Alvarez and Holden pinching in and that provided little room to operate as the Chinese sat back. Bid difference to Rongen U20 that used Roggers and Zizzo up the wings to open space up.

Posted by: PanchoMiguelMorelesdeConejo | December 14, 2007 4:00 PM | Report abuse

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