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Matchday Houston: USA-Mexico

Greetings from Estadio Reliant. Make no mistake: This match and the crowd will definitely have a Spanish accent.

A few things you should know:

*The retractable roof is closed. It is a gorgeous day, but apparently the cool weather that blew in overnight and will stay with us this evening prompted organizers to keep it shut.

*TV coverage on ESPN2 begins at 9 p.m. ET (8 Central), but kickoff will not take place until 25 minutes after the hour.

*The four U.S. scratches from the game-day roster: defender Eddie Robinson, midfielder Brad Davis, midfielder Stuart Holden and defender Heath Pearce.

USA STARTERS: Howard; Moor, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Corrales; Donovan, Bradley, Clark, Convey; Dempsey, Altidore.

MEXICO STARTERS: Ochoa; Salcido, Marquez, Magallon, Castro; Arce, Pardo, Torrado, Vela; De Nigris, Bautista.

As usual, this is the place for pregame, in-game and postgame comments. Please share your thoughts!

By Steve Goff  |  February 6, 2008; 5:47 PM ET
Categories:  U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

Greetings! Donovan to start? :/

Posted by: JkR | February 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The organizers only closed the roof because the mexicans were cold.

Now not only is the crowd very pro-mexican, but they made sure the weather isn't in our favor.

Posted by: Skyler | February 6, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Any hint about the starting line up? Jozy Jozy Jozy!

Posted by: quakes fan | February 6, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

That smell in the air? It's a goal from Altidore.

Posted by: McBride | February 6, 2008 6:23 PM | Report abuse

For those who don't have cable (don't know any of them myself, no no no...), the match is also on ESPN360 and Univision.

How about goals from Jozy, Freddie, Benny... all the guys with the "e" on the end of their names.

Riiiight.... I'll settle for a good match, no injuries on either side and a US victory.

Posted by: Modibo | February 6, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

41 days to the first home match!

Posted by: Curious | February 6, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Sigh! 9:25 kickoff time sucks for us early to rise people!

GO USA!

Posted by: strago | February 6, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

3 Dynamo players scratched = wtf? I know Davis is hurt but cmon!

Posted by: Tim | February 6, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the kick-off time. I couldn't find it anywhere. I need to know what is the latest I can leave work. If I don't finish it all, I have to log in from home and finish it later (shudder). I can now maximize my work time.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | February 6, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with Pearce?

Posted by: Brooks | February 6, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't have to rise early but the kickoff time here in Spain is 3:25 am urggh that's rough

Posted by: Scott A | February 6, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the kick-off time. I couldn't find it anywhere. I need to know what is the latest I can leave work. If I don't finish it all, I have to log in from home and finish it later (shudder). I can now maximize my work time.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | February 6, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

He sucks?

Posted by: Xopher | February 6, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the double post.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | February 6, 2008 7:13 PM | Report abuse

And Eddie Lewis is a better option? Ramiro Corrales? Don't be an idiot.

Posted by: Brooks | February 6, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. Don't be an idiot...

It sucks to be an idiot. I should know.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 6, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

What a fantastic night.

Maryland beating Boston College, and as soon as that wraps up, the MNT game.

I'm just stoked I could actually see the Maryland game down here in Alabama.

Posted by: Colm | February 6, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

With Heath a scratch, have to think Drew Moor will be a good chance to start.

Posted by: Doug | February 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

My question is this...will I be able to avoid the UNC/Puke score until after the US/Mex match? Maybe some tape and a piece of paper across the bottom of the screen?

Posted by: Andy In Asheville | February 6, 2008 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Could we please keep it to soccer on soccer insider?

Any discussion on the results from today's earlier friendlies?

Posted by: LSD | February 6, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

how is Brad Davis doing???

Posted by: antnee | February 6, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the starting line up. Im a little worried about the left and right back spot though. but glad to see altidore starting.

Posted by: LUIS | February 6, 2008 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Both fullbacks will be a huge liability.

Posted by: Brooks | February 6, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

corrales? seriously?

Posted by: pat | February 6, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Brooks-

Pearce very nearly got the boot from Hansa Rostock over the winter break. I'm guessing that is a big factor. Then again, I find that perfectly alright, because I've never been convinced by him. Not that Corrales inspired confidence against Sweden, but I don't think there's much of a difference between the two.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 8:57 PM | Report abuse

From an earlier thread:

A little birdie told me to expect this starting lineup tonite........


-------- Howard ------------

Moor -- Gooch -- Boca -- Corrales

Donovan -- Bradley -- Clark -- Convey

------ Altidore -- Dempsey --------

Posted by: A Rickey | February 6, 2008 04:43 PM


As that guys said in one of those Clint Eastwood movies: "WHO ARE YOUUUUUUU!!!!" just before taking seven bulletts in the torso.

Seriously, dude, you got this spot on. Who do you know, and when did you know it... uh, him.

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 6, 2008 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Also, anyone who doesn't want Donovan in this game is crazy. If there is ever a time Donovan comes through, lives up to his ability, and deserves our respect, it's when we take the field against Mexico. Yes, he takes it easy in MLS rather than pushing himself to new levels, but if you made me coach of the US for a match against Mexico, he's the very first name I'm writing down on the lineup sheet.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

What was that music they played before the anthems started? It reminded me of the "Goals Goals Goals for the Red, White, and Blue" song they trotted out a couple years ago (in that it was absolutely dreadful).

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Yea I know all about the situation at Hansa, but I felt like if that was a factor he wouldn't have even been called into camp. We'll see. Hopefully Corrales is not as bad as he lead us to believe.

Posted by: Brooks | February 6, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

i think thats the fifa anthem

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

I thought we had a good thing going with the white jerseys with a simple blue and red bar... instead we decided to look like the San Jose Clash, Dallas Burn, and NYNJ Metrostars (since they all did so well).

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Convey try to get around Castro and hook the ball in rather than play it early in that situation. I think Dempsey and Altidore are going to win footraces to driven crosses from a little deeper. Marquez is going to eat up deep crosses like Convey's (assuming the next one actually beats the first man).

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

That was a perfect opportunity for a Blanco-esque Dempsey bunnyhop!

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 9:38 PM | Report abuse

"Deeper" meaning further upfield in my last post, even though that means I'm trying to use deeper to describe further upfield and deep to describe nearer to midfield.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know if there's any English audio streams online for the game?

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I was at the USA vs Mexico match at Reliant in 2003 - 72,000+...largest crowd ever in Texas to see soccer, largest every crowd for the USMNT, I think.

That game, in that place, creates UNBELIEVABLE atmosphere!

The true Mexicans (i.e. from the motherland) were amazingly cool. The outright a-holes were the tejanos and second-generation types who could likely not even pronounce the Mexican players names, but were belligerent as all hell. Our military team went as a group, made some friends, made some enemies, then played some memorable 5v5 in the parking lot against some mexican fans.

A great night.

Posted by: Erick | February 6, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I am torned because Italy v Portugal is replaying on GolTv now

Posted by: td | February 6, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else relieved that Bocanegra is staying in? Or is this just the anti-Revs in me speaking?

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Moor is semi-useless. The only players worth a damn so far are Bradley, Howard, and Dempsey.

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

If anyone was going out, I'd rather it was Moor. He look really shaky out there...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

What is Bob Bradley's fascination with Drew Moor? Decent player but is he really national team material? Then again, I'm not the coach.

Posted by: Jason | February 6, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

Vela so far impressive. Landon has not touched the ball since the bad free kick.

Posted by: td | February 6, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Hey - turns out Mexico has a keeper too!

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

GOOOOOCH!!!!!

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

just like they drew it up!

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Goal from so unexpected man

Posted by: td | February 6, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Gooch... too big, too slow, so overrated...

riight?

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, nice finish from Onyewu. That ball had some speed coming down from Donvonan's, uh, reservice.

Posted by: Taylor | February 6, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

And lightning strikes...

Posted by: Taylor | February 6, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

nice goal


Moor was just as out of his depth as he's always been

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Come on Moor.

Great ball in from Pardo, though. If you serve in freekicks like that, you will get goals against anyone.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Is the Drew Moor experiment over?

Posted by: Jason | February 6, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

handball in the box goes uncalled (?)

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Ramiro set up that scoring opportunity and he left Bozo wide open for a header as well.

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

drew moor?

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Beautiful goal - and I was about to comment on the need for a defensive winger that can give service!!!

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

DREW EFFING MOOR!!!!

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Just when I was going to say that Drew Moor is a bum, he delivers a brilliant cross to Jozy, USA 2-1!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Chase | February 6, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Excellent cross from Moor. Redemption... almost. Altidore with the goal, the first of many for him in this shirt.

Posted by: Taylor | February 6, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

tim howard = savior (literally & figuratively)

Posted by: expat lumberjack | February 6, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

WOW

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Coming together very nicely now

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

ALTIDORE!!!

Ok, so Moor helps balance out the goal he helped give up. He's still getting hauled off at halftime, because that's all they're doing is attacking him.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

How the hell was that offside, or foul, or whatever they called?

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse

Dempsey's goal should absolutely stand. What are these, ACC refs?

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

someone explain this

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

WTF was the call on the Dempsey goal????

Posted by: Chase | February 6, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

The call? Look at the ref. Wonder where he hails from...

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

convey out, freddy on. cmon.

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

okay, i guess i'm willing to accept that maaaaaaybe dempsey was offside

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

What was the phantom call?

Posted by: Kenobi | February 6, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

it was offside on the initial ball from gooch. that's what the call was at least.

Posted by: dempsey goal | February 6, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

1st Half:

Nice goal by Jozy, nice.
Nice goal by Clint, what the f?

2nd Half:
Lewis for Corrales at 45
Adu for Convey at 60

Equals:

US 3 or 4, Mexico 1

Posted by: delantero | February 6, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Despite what Bradley says, I can't believe they called offsides. Had to be a push by Dempsey. Either that, or a phantom call.

How badly can our defense play? It's been a long time since I've seen our defense look this bad.

But, some nice looks on offense. Contrary to Harkes' opinion, if Gooch can throw like that, I'm OK with him taking the throws. And what a service by Moor. He's showing some real ball skills, even if his marking is a wee suspect.

Dempsey? Wow. Altidore? A teenage wow. Howard? Dude's got enough of a problem with his Tourette's -- the defense is giving him too much cause to be cursing...

Posted by: Fisch Fry | February 6, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

HD is absolutely awesome!

DVRed can't really tell if Dempsey offsides.

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Why would we take off Corrales and leave in Moor, up 2-1 and with Mexico just running past him?

Also, I don't think we'll see Freddy in for a wide midfielder. I bet he comes on for Dempsey 10-15 minutes into the half.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

ESPN2 good camera work, offsides. good call, still a good shot

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

That last replay I think showed it - linesman had his flag up the whole time, ref just didn't bother to look until the goal was scored and everyone had pointed.

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. I think Corrales and Moor have been solid going forward, with Moor making a absolutely terrific cross. On the other hand, neither has been anywhere near effective in defense.

Also, Convey gives possession away too easily, which isn't a shocker, but it is a problem.

Posted by: noptov52 | February 6, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

One half down and Harkes has yet to label a move "Cheeky." I wonder if that's in his contract.

Posted by: bbarrie | February 6, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I just watched the Dempsey goal in super slo-mo, and he was offsides when the first pass was delivered by a half step. But that must be the most delayed call in history. Either that or nobody heard the first whistle, which could be possible...

Posted by: JF | February 6, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

it's cheeky with harkes and chippy with wynalda

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Adios Senor Moor...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Drew Moor is an embarrassment when it comes to marking. How does Spector not get a game ahead of him?

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Moor burned on 2 goals.

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Moor with some more terrible defending on a set piece, despite the cross, he has been absolutely shocking in the back...

Posted by: Chase | February 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Damn! Did Moor just get beat again on the corner! WTF! He better deliver a great cross to Jozy ASAP!

Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Of course, they shouldn't have been given the corner to begin with -- but who' counting...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Spector's not playing in this one because they've worked out a deal that he'll be available for the Olympic qualifiers.

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Corrales and Moor are the two men beaten to the ball by Magallon.

I'd take Frankie Hejduk at this point.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

The poor Univision guys are still trying to figure out why Dempsey's goal wasn't allowed... They just ran the replay again and called it "completely legal."

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Harkes and JP - please don't start making excuses. The game is tied. You can't chalk the score down to MLS being out of season and Euro-based players being jetlagged. They are professionals representing their country and should be expected to perform regardless of the set of circumstances.

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

And the dirty Mexican play starts. How is that not a yellow on the striker taking out Howard? Totally takes him out without getting any ball! And a yellow on the dude who jacked Convey in the ribs! WTF!

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

De Nigris and Torrado showing that Hugo Sanchez-level class.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:40 PM | Report abuse

Neither Clark nor Bradley is filling in the gap between our defense and midfield. Either we need to get Freddy on, go to a 4411 (allowing Clark and Bradley to play a little further back) or bring on Mo Edu with the instruction to fill that hole and cut out Mexico's ability to find Vela and Bautista with balls through that space.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Moor loses his man yet again...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

So Drew Moor just saved a goal, and created a goal, but also gave 2 away and has been poor otherwise. Very strange game for him.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

And again! Get Moor out!

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about saved... looked like he went over to help where it wasn't needed, leaving his mark wide open...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

I like Feilhaber for Bradley, simply because Clark's role will be clearer. He should shift in as a true defensive midfielder, with Feilhaber in the middle and Freddy between the midfield and Altidore.

Hopefully, Freddy can give us some of his off-the-bench magic like he's done at Benfica a few times this season.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

With Feilhaber & Adu they are holding the ball now... that's a nice change.

Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Horrid card to Gooch....again.

Posted by: JkR | February 6, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Unbelievable -- that from Gooch gets a yellow!

And Eddie Lewis? WTF? Why is he even there?

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

what? i didn't even see a foul on gooch much less a card!

Posted by: pat | February 6, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

so much for pulling moor or corales

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

I've got to disagree, edgeonyou. Howard had no chance on that shot. If Moor didn't get that block in, we're down 3-2.

Onyewu gets a booking for the crime of being bigger and stronger than someone. That was shoulder-to-shoulder, but Gooch has like 50 pounds on Cacho.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Eddie Lewis was good as the henchman in Ghostbusters 2 though

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

I've got to disagree, edgeonyou. Howard had no chance on that shot. If Moor didn't get that block in, we're down 3-2.
--------------------------------------

I agree the the block was a save, but was trying to make the point that Moor created the need fro the block in the first place by drifting too far off his man when it wasn't needed.

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

yeah, moor blocked the shot, but he shouldn't have left that guy open to begin with.

great corner by adu, but no one was even in the center of the box?

Posted by: pat | February 6, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Another ridiculous yellow from the ref! Now all he has to do is give one to Adu for breathing on someone and all three black U.S. players will have yellows!

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

And yet he never got a chance in Spain with Celta Vigo...

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Tim howard has a yellow?

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Score? Minute?

Posted by: LSD | February 6, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Ah... the friendly... how many subs are we allowed? 4? 6?

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

So Mo Edu gets studs into his leg immediately, but Gooch gets a booking for a shoulder-to-shoulder tackle? Come on.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Marquez with a little kick at Gooch on the ground. Typical lack of class from the Mexican captain.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

corrales burned again in the 81st minute! why is he even in this game?

Posted by: pat | February 6, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

6 subs, MK.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

2-2 82 minute

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

wow... Gooch just saved us there with a great blcok in the center.

Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Thanks

Posted by: LSD | February 6, 2008 11:07 PM | Report abuse

I really wish Harkes would stop with the repeated "characteristics on the ball" comments.

Posted by: art | February 6, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Harkes just called out Donovan for disappearing in the second half. I didn't realize that Harkes did that stuff, good work.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Harkes has come down on Donovan's 2nd half and the play of both Convey and Corrales down the left, as well as Moor's marking on the 2 goals. He's no slouch.

He is, however, harping on Gooch's long throw-ins, despite the fact that he's the only player in our national team pool that can throw the ball that far.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Freddy SCHOOLS

Posted by: d, dc | February 6, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Adu just made 3 Mexican players look like fools... let's get a goal here Landon!

Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Good to see some confident play out of Freddy

Posted by: MK | February 6, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

fine, draw....

This won't be our defense in WCQ. Too much disorganization in the back. Defensive midfield in 2nd half was lacking in the center.

Posted by: JSF | February 6, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

2-2 final

Posted by: Anonymous | February 6, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

So, what kind of deal could Houston get for the rights to Corrales after tonight?

Nice stuff from Freddy to win this freekick.

And it's over. Fair result, I'd say. Mexico had the run of play and created more chances, but once again we were more ruthless with the chances we made. Nice to see Altidore grab a goal. Anyone out there know any good fullbacks?

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Hey are those friendly handshakes and shirt swapping??

Posted by: JkR | February 6, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Not sure if they showed it on BSPN, but on Univision after the game it looked like Moor was swapping jerseys with the dude who smoked him on the second goal. Drew, you already let him have the glory, no need to give him the shirt off your back too! Besides which, you may want to keep it as a memento, 'cause I don't think you'll be getting another of those MNT shirts...

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 6, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

New generation of players on both sides. Fair result. Monster goal from Jozy.

Posted by: sbg | February 6, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Decent game overall. Great job by Jozy and some creative play from our youngsters. We gave up way too much space in the defensive third for the last 30 minutes and were lucky not to give up a late goal. Two random observations:
1) Mexican players seemed to shake hands and switch jerseys tonight... are we finally turning the corner to have some mutual respect?
2) The new jersey is not as terrible as I expected. Thoughts?

Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

He is, however, harping on Gooch's long throw-ins, despite the fact that he's the only player in our national team pool that can throw the ball that far.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 6, 2008 11:13 PM

Bocanegra? Have you seen the guns on that guy?

2) The new jersey is not as terrible as I expected. Thoughts?


Posted by: JRF | February 6, 2008 11:27 PM

Jozy seemed to like it. He gave it a smooch after his goal.

Posted by: Glaucon | February 6, 2008 11:32 PM | Report abuse

US fortunate to get a tie. Mexico outplayed them throughout. Good to see younger players get a chance.

Posted by: jmd | February 6, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

They mentioned Corrales had been out of the National Team picture since 2004. I can only hope that he is banished for another four years. Drew Moor likewise got schooled repeatedly and outside of his great cross he had a poor game.

Other things I didn't like: Convey. He continued to play badly after the half and combined with Corrales to give Mexico an express highway down our left side. The partnership of Clark and Bradley did not work at all. Both had their moments and played decent individually, but their chemistry nonexistant.

Positives: I thought all of our forwards had good games and Altidore proved he can handle starting. In goal Howard made some great saves and was left out to dry on both Mexican goals. Donovan was quiet in the second half, but the lack of US possession and Mexico continually attacking down the other side, limited his touches.

Posted by: noptov52 | February 6, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

it was so nice to watch a game with a pair of competent announcers. glad espn (bspn) finally figured it out.

Posted by: pat | February 6, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

USA disappoints, no team play, no player taking control......we were not even mediocre, I want the USA team to be something to get excited about but they are far from that. This is just the start towards 2009 in S. Africa and hopefully 2010 but its a bad start.

Posted by: Paco | February 6, 2008 11:53 PM | Report abuse

If Drew Moor is going to watch setplays like that, then he should get to pay like everyobe else. Seriously our outside backs were pretty bad tonight and that midfield shared by Clark and Bradley was shambolic to say the least.

Good thing to see the young-ins come in and solidly announce their presence. Jozy is young and developing, but man is this kid solid or what. I bet you Rapha Marquez goes back to Barca singing his praises.

I suppose the 2-2- draw was fair. They still can't beat us and Drew Moor sux.

Posted by: Kosh | February 6, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

My personal player ratings:

Howard - 8. Unlucky on both goals because no defensive cover. Also, only an eight because he found it hard to orchestrate his defense (set pieces, etc.) Again, bad defense that reflects poorly on Howard.

Corrales - 4. Didn't impress at all.

Boca - 7. I thought he played rather solid. Mistakes here and there. Not bad though.

Gooch - 8. He had a great game. A goal never hurts, too. He was in the right place right time often.

Moor - 5. A five for the great cross to Altidore. His defensive efforts? He's a boy playing on a field with men.

Convey - 4. Very poor showing. Almost non-existant. I was disappointed.

Clark - 5. I wasn't impressed at all. Didn't seem to connect anything.

Bradley - 6. Disappointing showing. I had high expectations too. So I think that hurt my judgment. Still promising though.

Donovan - 6. Great in first half. Not so great in second. Would have been 7 or 8 if just first half. Disappeared in second.

Dempsey - 7. Gassed no doubt. But clever and his non-goal was BEAUTIFUL. He had some great moves and some great skill. The intensity dropped dramatically when he left.

Altidore - 8. Beautiful start for him. He is going to be a tour-de-force. Extremely inspiring and hopeful for Americans.

subs:

Feilhaber - 4. I don't know. It's hard to come into a game like that. Plus he's so not game ready. He did ok. But it's hard to make your mark when the game isn't flowing.

Adu - 5. Showed promise. Didn't do a whole lot, but I think he can and will soon enough.

Edu - 4. I didn't really see him do much either.

Posted by: MemRook | February 6, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot?!?!?

I was watching the ESPN360.com postgame show, and alluva sudden, it stopped in mid-sentence.

Anybody else have this happen to them???

Posted by: Juan-John | February 7, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

I thought the ESPN interview in Spanish and English with Magallon (the goalscorer for Mexico) was a classy move. Overall, ESPN did a nice job of showing the passion of supporters for both teams, while avoiding the easy trap of cheap American jingo-ism. The reality is the majority of folks at the game were probably citizens of the USA, whether they were supporting Mexico or Team USA . . . Also, the soccer powers that be know where their bread is buttered in terms of large segments of the fan base (Latino-Americans) so it's a good economic decision not to get Tom Tancredo on anyone.

Posted by: TPLL | February 7, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

We were fortunate to get the draw, but I wouldn't say it was as bad of a result as some are making it out to be. We learned several things tonight, including:

-Corrales and Moor are not the answer at fullback and are mearely holding down the fort for guys like Cherundolo, Spector, Pearce, Bornstein, etc.
-Jozy and Dempsey (and Adu) with the right service could be a great combo up front for us
-Bradley and Clark did not constitute a very good combinaton in the midfield
-Gooch is back and was very solid tonight, while Boca looked to suffer from the same poor form he has recentely exhibited at Fulham

All in all it was a friendly, next up Olympic qualifying...

Posted by: Chase | February 7, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

1) The US has no number 10, and no heir appearant number 10. Without a true attacking midfielder who distributes, we have no shot at anything.
2) Drew F'n Moore. How can Bradley NOT sub him out? He was so obviously outskilled that the Mexicans gunned for him in the second half.
3) The only point worse than Drew Moore's game was Bradley's inability to see the obvious. And that's what scares the sht out of me.

Posted by: David | February 7, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Double T celebrates like cray with this momumental result against the CONCACAF Double T and no not Taylor Twellman

Posted by: Double T | February 7, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Double T: Whatchayootalkin' about??!?

Posted by: Juan-John | February 7, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

@Posted by: David | February 7, 2008 12:43 AM

He really didn't have anyone to sub Moor or Corales out for. Pearce was hurt.

Boca had an awful match as well. He should have been subbed off for Parkhurst.

Altidore was raw but an absolute beast. I'm pretty sure he took 3 years off of Marquez' career tonight.

Posted by: papa bear | February 7, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Right before the game started, I turned to my son and said I was happy Altidore was starting because it's nice to have a striker that can finish! And did he ever! Also, how about some love for Gooch staying involved in the play even after he threw the ball in on his long throw / goal. So many players stay out on the side after making a long throw.

Posted by: Dsmac | February 7, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Moor and Coralles bad except for Moor's feed to Jozy. Clark and Bradley not a good combo. Clark was the worse of the two in my mind. Convey....meh... not much.

Bright spots- Tim Howard, Jozy A. Gooch, Boca, Landon at times, Dempsey some what.

Overall a good game. Nice to see the teams shaking hands at the end. Maybe a true if not grudging respect has arrived?

Posted by: AlexandriaDan | February 7, 2008 8:14 AM | Report abuse

The Drew Moor Experiment is over.

Or at least it should be. I rate him as a 2nd tier MLS defender...not even close to international caliber.

Posted by: BK | February 7, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

was this game a tie or what happen

Posted by: Yessica | February 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

No more brown refs please.

Posted by: Eric | February 7, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I have no idea why Bobby Convey keeps getting called up to MNT duty. He is so soft and gives up possession with his poor decision making all the time. He has only scored once in 45 appearances for the US. C'mon B. Bradley, find somebody who is dangerous to put out on the flank!!!

Posted by: raz | February 7, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

No more brown refs please.

Posted by: Eric | February 7, 2008 10:18 AM

racist

Posted by: d, dc | February 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Scores -
Howard -8- solid as always. Those goals weren't his fault.
Moor -2-the service was nice but his marking is horrible. He is not the answer back there
Gooch -7- solid. he continues to get picked on by the refs because he's bigger.
Boca -5- did well but didn't organize like he should've. He should've been helping Howard on the free kicks with setting the guys.
Corrales -2- terrible. I doubt we'll ever see him again.
Convey -4- he didn't impress and still needs to get his form back.
Clark -4- did not organize like he should have in the midfield. Also, didn't slow the attack down like he should've
Bradley -5- gave the ball away too many times and also didn't slow the mexican attack like he should've.
Dempsey -7- that goal was nice and I think he does well to hold the ball when he can get the attack going. He just has no help.
Donovan -5- This hould be Dempsey's help. He will never be a true number 10 because he disappears too much. He has flashes of brilliance, but its not enough to flash. You're either a full leader or you're not. And he's not.
Altidore -8- played great. Tremendouse goal. Needs to work on holding the ball a bit to wait for the attack when landycakes is somewhere else in the world.
Feilhaber -6-things shored up when he got in the game. He needs to be playing right now to get back into form.
Adu -6- creative as hell! He may turn out to be a solid contributer by the next world cup.
Edu -NR- he wasn't in long enough.

Posted by: moreno4prez | February 7, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

U.S. defender DREW MOOR

On the set pieces:
"Obviously it is something that Mexico looks for, and they had plenty of them tonight. We were uncomfortable with that and should have dealt with it better. It was very loud, but we needed to not let our men get across us. We needed stronger bodies on their players and needed to win our battles individually. Mexico definitely came at us and I thought 2-2 was a fair result."

Replace "we" with "I" and that quote makes sense.

Posted by: RB | February 7, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Despite two nice runs and services that deserve much credit, Drew Moor (again) showed that he is a nightmare on the back-line. He is a step slow yet he over-pursues as a matter of course. Even without the ball, he cannot outrun his mark to the touch-line or to the goal mouth, as was so painfully obvious on both of Mexico's goals last night. He simply is not a MNT-caliber defender and cannot be on the pitch in critical matches.

The same was blatantly apparent for Corrales - which left the US with two flanking defenders who were over-matched the entire night. That decision falls squarely on the manager's head - and should leave a sizable welt.

The day Coach Bradley truly becomes COACH Bradley and not "Dad" will be a banner day for the MNT. The prodigal son is so slow and has so consistently shown his poor vision and creativity in the middle third that anyone who did not share his last name would not even let him sit on the sideline. I know he was supposed to be all that - but how long and in how many matches does Bradley have to get worked over by faster, better-passing, more-skilled middies before "Coach" ends this experiment? It's by script now: 20 minutes into any match, he resorts to "muscle" because he cannot out-run or out-skill his marks - and then the team is just waiting to be playing a man down because his rashness.

Overall, a lackluster showing by the squad the "Coach" put on the field.

Posted by: Neil | February 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Neil, have you seen what Bradley is doing in Holland? You can't judge him based on last night's performance. The team played very poorly in my opinion and it didn't all fall on him. With the exception of Donovan, every wide player was atrocious.

Posted by: BK | February 7, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

My take....
-Bradley was very slow with the changes...
-Moor and Corales dont below on the national team.
- We played bad, however we were up twice.
- Our midfield was terrible, Convey shouldnt be called back to team.
- We continue to commit dumb fouls and pay the price with set pieces, terrible defending.
-Bocanegra and Gooch finally played decent together. (I would like to see more of Parkhurst)
---At the end we got a result, and we led twice, but our defense, set pieces, and ball control and passing are not good.

Posted by: Joel | February 7, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Bradley was not the problem last night. It was his pairing with Clark. Bradley actually closed several attacks down on the flank which is yet another indicator of how bad our flank play was last night. I'm with BK and others who are giving credit to what Bradley his doing in Holland. He has 13 or 14 goals now?

As to the constant implication of nepotism. Enough. Facts just aren't on your side.

Posted by: AlexandriaDan | February 7, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the pairing with Clark was not a good one - but that was also the Coach's decision, correct? That's what I thought - so he should know better.

Goals in Holland are nice, I guess. Still, I would just like to see two passes that are correctly weighted and reach the guys wearing the same colored jerseys when he is on this side of the Atlantic.

Argue whatever you like: he is great in his club league, he had jet-lag, he was not ready for the squad on the field with him. Blah, blah, blah. Excuses. If he is that good, then he should play like it. And if he can only be that great for Heerenveen, fine - but that does not validate his playing on the US MNT more than any other player. If he cannot hold our midfield line and make plays for his wings, then I do not want to watch him get out-run - until he has to bust his tail to challenge someone late and clumsily.

Correct on other retorts: putting Convey out there again was like saying, "We're only going to play with 10 tonight, thanks!" And I have become used to Donovan's 48-minutes of hustle per 90. It's just that he is usually making something positive happen in those 48 minutes. That is not a commendation as much as it an acceptance of his role as The Next Reyna. Alas - the MNT is stuck with it.

Just where were the other wing defenders who had looked so good in last year's internationals? Bornstein, Spector (I know: could not get away from WestHam), DeMerit, Cherundulo, Parkhurst, Simek...anybody out there?

Posted by: Neil | February 7, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

moreno4prez: your ratings are pretty much right on, except that I would downgrade Howard slightly because he seemed to be panicking back there. The goalie needs to have a strong, calming influence, not be freaking out because the guys in the wall can't hear you. But he made some brilliant saves.

I think Convey will get his form back. At least I'm hoping. He's shown flashes of brilliance for Reading but didn't do much last night.

And the people bashing Bradley are completely insane! The kid is young and was definitely nervous in center mid, but he is wicked fast. Did you see how many times he recovered to make a tackle after Clark or Convey had lost the ball? He has a great future and to say it's because his dad is the coach is absurd. His dad doesn't coach his club team!

Finally, references to the ref's skin tone are out of line, but can we please get a Canadian or Trinidadian next time? The Central American refs, and this ref in particular have been consistently anti-US especially in the games against Mexico. I cringed when I saw him walk out on the field. Why was there no card for the late, dirty foul on Convey? And what did Bradley do to deserve a card? But I guess it's good for the young players to get used to what Concacaf refs are like.

Posted by: HS | February 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Bradley has done amazingly in Holland. He's getting noticed by big time clubs like Chelsea and Arsenal right now. He wasn't sharp on his passing but that was about it. The club play is important because he earns his chance on the USMNT by playing well for his club.
Do we have anybody else that can take set pieces besides Donovan? He is pretty bad at consistently. I don't understand why Boca or anybody else doesn't do it. Adu would be great but he's not ready to be a starter yet.

HS - you're right about Howard. It seems like he couldn't command the discipline of the guys to get in the wall or out of the wall. He threw his hands at one point in frustration.

Posted by: moreno4prez | February 7, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Adu did take a corner kick away from Donovan, which was nice to see. He's another one I'm hoping with get on form and fulfill his potential. He's got to win over Camacho first.

Posted by: HS | February 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Yet Harkes said that Donovan was good on free kicks. Please. Since when?

It looks as if Bob Bradley is smarter than his predecessor in that he AT LEAST knows that Donovan is not a forward and has never been. Now he just needs to see that we need someone else standing over the dead balls.

Posted by: BK | February 7, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

I thought howard was gonna choke someone

Posted by: Pino | February 7, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

tickets on ticketmaster were the highest I have seen.......but is that fair to go after the Mexican crowd for money? what does that say about the state of USA fan support? there is none. it just seems off color for U.S. Soccer to do that (pun intended)

"And U.S. Soccer scored a huge payday. Officials don't disclose numbers, but federation president Sunil Gulati said before the match a sellout crowd paying more than $50 in average ticket pricing ensured an all-time record financial score." (go buy a better uniform design then)

Posted by: Mario | February 7, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

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