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*Sorry to be so very vague, but there are no specifics available at the moment on this one: An MLS team in the hunt for a designated player might find out today or tomorrow if its plan is going to move forward. That's all I have been told. Meantime, completely unrelated, I also hear that Ukrainian superstar Andriy Shevchenko continues to show interest in MLS, but has told his reps that he would only play in Los Angeles or New York. Don't hold your breath -- it might be a few years.

*It appears Mexican forward Jesus Mendoza is going to get a look in Chicago after spending time with Real Salt Lake and Colombian forward Wason Renteria has caught New York's eye, though the 22-year-old from Strasbourg (on loan from Porto) says he has offers from different countries.

*Former Rev Andy Dorman makes his mark in the Scottish Cup.

*Giovanni Trapattoni is in as Ireland manager, Bryan Robson is out at Sheffield United.

Ronaldo's injury:


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Have you heard anything about a major shakeup in the MLS headquarters? Something about Garber.

Posted by: MLS Shadow | February 14, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Only New York or LA? Well if that's the case, screw 'em, he obviously is not coming for the football.

DC can do better than that.

Posted by: Chelski | February 14, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

FirsT!

excited to see who the dp may be!

Posted by: LDiddy | February 14, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

"FirsT!"

Or not

Posted by: Anonymous | February 14, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

A little OT, but did anyone else see the article on fifa.com about Marco Etcheverry and DCU?

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=689884.html#the+devil+went+dc

Long article, very cool!

Posted by: GoldenChild | February 14, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

This is routine. Eurostars who mention the possibility of playing in MLS almost always insist on playing in NY or LA so that they can attend the glamorous parties. I guess the Ukrainian embassy can't pitch a wang dang doodle.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 14, 2008 9:58 AM | Report abuse

MLS side in the hunt for DP. It's a toss up between Columbus and Toronto I guess. Couldn't begin to guess who the player is though.

Posted by: Richard, UK | February 14, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

I heard from someone at MLS that Garber is pursuing "other opportunities"

Posted by: Anonymously | February 14, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

That Etcheverry article from Fifa.com is very cool. Thanks for sharing it.

Oddly enough, it says that he lives in the sprawling suburbs of West VA. I didn't realize that West VA had suburbs...don't you need urbs to have suburbs?

Posted by: bribri | February 14, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Don Garber is going to MLB in an effort to bring measured growth to emerge from the steroids scandal.

Seriously, if boreball isn't dead now then we as Americans are retarded. What a fake sport. What a terrible group of people.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Marco lives in Purceville, VA

Posted by: Chico | February 14, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

RE: Trapattoni

The Red Bulls are 1 for 2 in having their managers take over celtic national teams.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 14, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Too bad about Ronaldo. I know it has been sometime since he was at his peak but when he was no one could touch him...

Posted by: jgildea | February 14, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

"Seriously, if boreball isn't dead now then we as Americans are retarded. What a fake sport. What a terrible group of people."

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You should google doping and FIFA before you complain about fake sports and "terrible" fans. Oh, by the way, when was the last riot at a baseball game in which "fans" died?

Posted by: Black Pot Snarking At Black Kettle | February 14, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Andriy Shevchenko's in-laws reside in the DC area; actually, he was married here a few years ago.

His father-in-law, Mike Pazik, was a former #1 draft pick by the NY Yankees. I believe he was a pitching coach for a few teams, and may be a scout now. His wife, Kristen, was a fashion model whom he met in Milan. His first son's godfather is Silvio Berlusconi.

Despite what his agents say, I wouldn't rule out DC United if he decides to finish his career in MLS. When he was transferred to Chelsea, I recall reading that one of the reasons was easier access to DC from London.

Posted by: Steve Amoia | February 14, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

"Despite what his agents say, I wouldn't rule out DC United if he decides to finish his career in MLS."

Uh oh, Sheva shark. We're going to need a bigger boat.

/poking fun.

Posted by: Section 130 | February 14, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, nobody died, but there was a bit of a sticky situation in Cleveland in 1974.

Posted by: Matt In Silver Spring | February 14, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I know soccer isn't perfect. I also know that doping, riots, etc have happened all around the world in the sport.

That said - baseball as the mantlepiece "National Pastime" should be over. I'm convinced that all MLB guys are juicebags and that what they and the MLBPA needs to do is just say - we're all taking horse pills and we're hoping that stem cell research will bring us closer to being able to play into our 50's and that's that - you the paying fan needs to stop pretending we're 'athletes'.

But seriously, where would Garber go? Sure he's done a great job over the past, call it, decade but unless the NFL is hiring him back to tap into the foreing audience they'll never have I don't know what he'd look into.

And if he is leaving - for the love of Paul Caliguri, please don't let Lalas even APPLY for the top job.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

BTW - The comments by Steven Cohen yesterday on Lalas, AEG, Galaxy were like Christmas. I hate that club and Alexi so much.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

---BTW - The comments by Steven Cohen yesterday on Lalas, AEG, Galaxy were like Christmas. I hate that club and Alexi so much. ---

Link?

Posted by: James | February 14, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

That said - baseball as the mantlepiece "National Pastime" should be over. I'm convinced that all MLB guys are juicebags
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MLB as nat'l pastime should be over for reasons other than doping. The game is boring and interminable, among other things. But "all MLB guys are juicebags"? You think more juicebags there than in Serie A? C'mon.

Posted by: WNT fan | February 14, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Guess Sheva's all about playing for teams that splash big money but don't win anything of consequence.

Posted by: AlecW81 | February 14, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

James,

It was on Fox Football Fone-In and on World Soccer Daily's podcast for Feb 12 and Feb 13.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Oh, no I despise Serie A as well. That's a farce too.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Does a designated player slot go with the player if he is traded to another team? If so, does it revert to the original team if he retires? Does FC Dallas still have theirs for Ruiz or did it go with him?

Posted by: curious | February 14, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

World Soccer Daily podcasts/streaming audio:
http://podcast.com/show/1375/

WSD is also available on iTunes.

Posted by: Erick | February 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Soccer Baseball = Apples Oranges.

So said by one who has partial ticket plans to both DCU as well as the Nationals for this upcoming season.

Posted by: Juan-John | February 14, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Nice Goff. Now Bernardo has on his blog.."I'm hearing things and will have something to report later today" or something along those lines...

A DP forward for Houston!?!?!?!?!?!?!


Posted by: el naranja | February 14, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

MLB as nat'l pastime should be over for reasons other than doping. The game is boring and interminable, among other things. But "all MLB guys are juicebags"? You think more juicebags there than in Serie A? C'mon.

Posted by: WNT fan | February 14, 2008 11:11 AM
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Don't you clowns realize that the "baseball is boring" argument is the same one used by those who bash soccer?

Pot calling the kettle black much?

Soccer lovers, soccer haters, baseball lovers, baseball haters, football lovers, football haters, etc. ALL NEED TO GET OVER THEMSELVES.

to each his own. no one sport is better than any other. It's all a matter of opinion and "in the eye of the beholder" so to speak.

people on here need to stop acting like turd-sandwiches.

Posted by: Robert Nesta Marley | February 14, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Yikes! The idea of having this thread end with the sentence above disturbs me. So...

Today's poll: for the new stadium in 2011 (work with me here), the adult beverage of choice is:
A. Budweiser
B. Sam Adams
C. Heineken
B. Other (your choice here)

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 14, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Doh! My choice: Budweiser, because it goes great with peanuts and hot dogs.

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 14, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link to the Etch article. Very nice read. I don't know where I've been but somehow I missed that he is a U20s assistant. Good for him.

Posted by: Matte | February 14, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Today's poll: for the new stadium in 2011 (work with me here), the adult beverage of choice is:
A. Budweiser
B. Sam Adams
C. Heineken
B. Other (your choice here)

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 14, 2008 12:21 PM
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A, B, C or B? Methinks Joe Doc's been at A, B or C a bit too much already today!

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

UVA-United, "measured growth" WAS the problem with the steroid scandal.

Posted by: Matte | February 14, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

d. other. High Life (because it's cheap) or Guiness (because its good).

Posted by: gilbert | February 14, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

forget about the beverages. Will they have turd sandwiches at the concession stand? That's the question.

Posted by: Matte | February 14, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

RFK already has them.

Posted by: Chico | February 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Today's poll: for the new stadium in 2011 (work with me here), the adult beverage of choice is:
A. Budweiser
B. Sam Adams
C. Heineken
B. Other (your choice here)

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 14, 2008 12:21 PM
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D. Mouth Wash. It's cheap and it'll get ya drunk.

Either that or Steel Reserve or Olde English.

Posted by: Raging Alcoholic | February 14, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

I''m perfctlyy sobbberr ^- tha=k yu veerry muuchhhh

Posted by: Joe Doc | February 14, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

RE: Today's Poll

I like Sam Adams, but the thought of having something that Revelosers can identify with really bothers me.

So keep it as local as possible: Wild Goose, Foggy Bottom, Old Dominion, or even Yuengling.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 14, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

DP: Feilhaber loan to Houston, maybe?

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I'd go with Hedonism Ale from Legacy Brewing up in Reading, a self-explanatory choice for anyone who has seen the packaging:

http://www.legacybrewing.com/news/news.php?nID=23

Posted by: 22201 | February 14, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I heard from someone at MLS that Garber is pursuing "other opportunities"


Posted by: Anonymously


Yeah that is my company's line when they have given a guy the old "Find yourself another job before we fire you."
Perhaps the league, whoever that may be, is not happy with his performance. There seem to be a lot of fans that are not satisfied with him.

Posted by: marksman | February 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I love getting represented well in FIFA meetings. (Yes, that is sarcasm)

http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news;_ylt=AoS4z02.6VEc7rOHmRjPgyMmw7YF?slug=txwarnerengland&prov=st&type=lgns

Posted by: gilbert | February 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

definitely sam adams...this poll is making me thirsty...

Posted by: PKTaker | February 14, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

to each his own. no one sport is better than any other. It's all a matter of opinion and "in the eye of the beholder" so to speak.
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Acutally football(soccer) is the best sport ever. Nothing can compare and that's why it is widely popular and loved around the globe unlike boreball, handball including rugby and criket.
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Today's poll: for the new stadium in 2011 (work with me here), the adult beverage of choice is:
A. Budweiser
B. Sam Adams
C. Heineken
B. Other (your choice here)
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B and C. No Bud or Miller ever. They are terrible. Taste like ....
yes to Wild Goose, Foggy Bottom, Old Dominion, or even Yuengling.

Posted by: td | February 14, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Garber gets a lot of crap, but he has been patient and prudent in growing the league. The rules can be a little bizarre sometimes, but hey they are in a wierd spot with the whole single entity thing and I am sure the owners pull some back room deals as well.

Posted by: jgildea | February 14, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps the league, whoever that may be, is not happy with his performance. There seem to be a lot of fans that are not satisfied with him.

Posted by: marksman | February 14, 2008 01:22 PM
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What are the particulars, either from the viewpoint of the fans, or of the league's investors? What could have been done better, and who could have done it better?

Posted by: 22201 | February 14, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

soccer fans are the reason so many people hate soccer.

don't like baseball? don't watch it. if you think there's no doping in soccer, you're a moron.

Posted by: Sharp | February 14, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

i would like to start seeing some examples of soccer players doping instead of accusations being thrown around....

Posted by: PKTaker | February 14, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Fenty: NO Deal for Poplar Point Stadium...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021401819_2.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Goff, you jumped too soon.

It looks like the Post was wrong on their last article.

Posted by: Southeasterner | February 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Redbulls sign Echeverry!!! first harkes and williams now this. . .

Posted by: DRB | February 14, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I think there's doping in any sport.

Professional Athletes are real people and all need to just allow the steriods, user beware and let's not waste Congress, the UN's, Virginia Foxx's, Michael Platini's and Jose Mourinho's time trying to make athletes organic.

Is there a basis to the Garber rumors?

I would prefer Feilhaber not end up in Houston.

Posted by: UVA-United | February 14, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Goff, you jumped too soon.
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What was Goff supposed to do, ignore the Nakamura article?

Posted by: 22201 | February 14, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Goff, you jumped too soon.

It looks like the Post was wrong on their last article.

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Um, excuse me? Is reading comprehension a problem for you? When exactly did I jump? I've been the most skeptical observer since this process began (i.e. zzzzzzzzz). If you've got a problem with Nakamura's story, which said the mayor was going to "propose" public funds, not announce groundbreaking for a stadium, feel free to write him in an e-mail. Unlike other papers and websites, nowhere does his story say that this stadium is happening.

With crap like this, sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this blog.....

By the way, Happy Valentine's Day y'all!

Posted by: Goff | February 14, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

What was Goff supposed to do, ignore the Nakamura article?

Posted by: 22201 | February 14, 2008 01:45 PM

Yes

If you have been following this story at all this is probably the 5th or 6th article that has been published by the Post talking about a stadium right around the corner.

I think Goff should stick with the ZZZZZ until a shovel is planted in the ground.

Posted by: Southeasterner | February 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Goff, you jumped too soon.
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What was Goff supposed to do, ignore the Nakamura article?

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This is the Nakamura article, with a few additional quotes from Mayor Fenty added this morning. Doesn't say that there is no deal; doesn't say much more than we'd already heard, IMHO.

Posted by: Mr. Krys | February 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

mls is folding up shop. the david beckham experience was the final straw. no point in building a venue strictly for soccer when there won't be a league anymore.

Posted by: tug79boat | February 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I can't stand baseball, but if the Nationals help finance our stadium, I think we need to send them a giant thank-you card.

Posted by: Glaucon | February 14, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Fenty: NO Deal for Poplar Point Stadium...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/14/AR2008021401819_2.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Goff, you jumped too soon.

It looks like the Post was wrong on their last article.

Posted by: Southeasterner | February 14, 2008 01:35 PM
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Thank you Kevin for this D.C. United jersey and congratulations on your terrific season," Fenty said. "It is great to see over 20,000 fans here at RFK supporting D.C. United. It is my hope that your fans will soon be coming to your brand new soccer stadium at Poplar Point in Anacostia. World class fans, and a world class team like D.C. United, deserve a world class stadium. And I am going to make it a priority to help you build that stadium. Thank you -- congratulations and good luck to the Black-and-Red!"

-Adrian Fenty on Oct 29 2006 (right before a mayoral elction mind you)

link to full article: http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20061031&content_id=77524&vkey=news_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103

Posted by: Million Dollar Man Ted Dibiase | February 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

mls is folding up shop. the david beckham experience was the final straw. no point in building a venue strictly for soccer when there won't be a league anymore.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well Igive this troll credit for at least not shoveling this sh!t at us in ALL CAPS.

Posted by: DCAustinite | February 14, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

With crap like this, sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this blog.....

By the way, Happy Valentine's Day y'all!


Posted by: Goff | February 14, 2008 01:54 PM

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Dang, cheer up Goff. You know 99.9% of us love the blog and respect and admire you for putting your hardwork into it. Your blog is the best source of soccer-related info on the entire interweb, bar none.

Don't let one cranky-old windbag get ya down 'ol boy.

Posted by: Maynard James Keenan, Danny Carey, Adam Jones, & Justin Chancellor (the boys from Tool) | February 14, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The heck with beer. Put Starbucks at the game.

Posted by: bubbles | February 14, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame Goff! He's taken too many Will Thomas elbows to the cabeza.

Posted by: Hoost | February 14, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Mendoza? He's awful. I was living in Mexico in 2000 and my friend was a huge America fan. Mendoza stuck out to me because he was just awful...

Posted by: RK | February 14, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

es

If you have been following this story at all this is probably the 5th or 6th article that has been published by the Post talking about a stadium right around the corner.

I think Goff should stick with the ZZZZZ until a shovel is planted in the ground.

Posted by: Southeasterner | February 14, 2008 01:55 PM
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The guy posted a link and said "this is hardly a done deal."

You owe him an apology, plain and simple.

Posted by: S | February 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Get over the Renteria rumor. Its not happening, he'd a be a DP!

Posted by: Christopher | February 14, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"And I am going to make it a priority to help you build that stadium."

And Fenty did what he promised. He made it a priority, and offered a way to make the stadium happen in the District.

Just because it's not a total cash-transfer to DC United doesn't mean he didn't fulfill his commitment to _help_ DC build a stadium.

From now on when idiots post Fenty's quote, I'll find a quote that he honored his commitment to make it a priority to HELP United build a stadium. If they refuse his help, too bad for them. Enjoy the burbs, chumps.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | February 14, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

The heck with beer. Put Starbucks at the game.

Posted by: bubbles | February 14, 2008 02:14 PM
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Well it had better be at a separate counter. Because if I have to wait for a beer while a bunch of teenage girls ahead of me order a half-dozen quad venti no-foam triple-pump white mocha skim lattes with extra whip, I'll have to be taken out in a strait jacket.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | February 14, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"With crap like this, sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this blog....."

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Please Mr Goff don't let the confused get you down. We here in California salute you and you blogging efforts.

Posted by: quakes fan | February 14, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"your" blogging efforts that is...

Posted by: quakes fan | February 14, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

If the band members from Tool really read this blog that would be way cool.

Posted by: quakes fan | February 14, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

If you haven't noticed, over the last year or so you've been seeing a lot more of MLS deputy commissioner Ivan Gazidis. There is a reason for that. He has been groomed to take Don Garber's place. Don Garber has been offered another opportunity at a higher level within the sport. Ivan Gazidis was also offered a position at Manchester City. He turned that position down partially because of family reason and also because he has been offered Garber's position.

Posted by: Anonymous | February 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Don Garber has been offered another opportunity at a higher level within the sport. Ivan Gazidis was also offered a position at Manchester City. He turned that position down partially because of family reason and also because he has been offered Garber's position.
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Sources, s'il vous plait?

Posted by: 22201 | February 14, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

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What are the particulars, either from the viewpoint of the fans, or of the league's investors? What could have been done better, and who could have done it better?

Posted by: 22201


Aaaaah, you see, I was merely speculating. Note the use of the word perhaps. I can't be held to the same standards as Goff when I am mocking my money-grubbing company and having fun with the potential rumor. It might make me wonder why I bother with this blogging stuff anyway ;-)
I'll try to make the sarcasm a bit more biting in the future.

As for the fans, read some posts on Big Soccer, MLS specific, and you will always find bashing of Garber. It exists here on this blog, also. He got booed at MLS Cup here in DC this year. It's out there, really.

Posted by: marksman | February 14, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

@Posted by: Chelski | February 14, 2008 09:51 AM
I agree about his motivations, but why would you think DC was his first choice or anywhere on the list to begin with for that matter? If I was a foreigner with no ties to the league I would want to play for a more successful club, but I never say anything to suggest he was looking at DC.

It's funny because you'd think people would want to avoid NY like the plague seeing as they have been, well, god awful forever. I thought professionals liked to win.

If he went to Chicas USA they would be SCARY.

Posted by: papa bear | February 16, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

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