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[updated]

Match held at Cal Poly SLO.....

0-0 final in the rain on a muddy pitch. San Jose hit the post late in the match.

DCU starters: Wells; Namoff, Martinez, Peralta, Burch; McTavish, Stratford, Gallardo, Fred; Moreno, Emilio. (Simms out with hip flexor.)

Lineup changes at various points of the second half included Carvallo in goal, Cordeiro, P. Carroll, Mediate and Dane Murphy in the back, Kirk, Gardner and Moose in midfield, Monteiro and Walker up front. Renfrow came on late. Niell started the second half but left with a knee bruise. Both Kpene and Dyachenko are recovering from MCL injuries and sat out, though Dyachenko probably would have played if the conditions were better.

That's all I know.

United returns to the Washington area early Monday and will train in D.C. later in the week before departing for San Antonio. Expect the roster to be cut down a bit in the next day or two.

By Steve Goff  |  February 24, 2008; 5:05 PM ET
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DCU starters: Wells; Namoff, Martinez, Peralta, Burch; McTavish, Stratford, Gallardo, Fred; Moreno, Emilio. (Simms out with hip flexor.)
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That looks like it will probably be DC's starting lineup, with the exception of Simms being out.

Posted by: Winoman | February 24, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Goff, when will we see Gallardo (or anyone for that matter)go the full 90? And do you think we should start to worry about the lack of scoring so far?

Posted by: Section106 | February 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, meant Season-starting lineup.

Posted by: Winoman | February 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

what are/was the starters for San Jose?

Posted by: DCU Fan | February 24, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Ben will play the wing midfield role when he gets back with McTavish or Mediate replacing him in the meantime

Posted by: United fury | February 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

How long does it take to recover from a hip flexor??? Preseason game in the rain...this may be logical in the sense that we played Chivas last year in the rain for the CCC. Hmmm...

Posted by: BigWave | February 24, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Ben may not even be back in time for the Harbor View series, so I can see Soehn tinkering w/the right wing position for the next month or so...

Posted by: BigWave | February 24, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Simms is fine, just being rested for a game in the slop.

Posted by: Goff | February 24, 2008 5:51 PM | Report abuse

If we still have scoring problems, we should take a look at the Brasilian forward, Bare, of Gamba Osaka. He single-handedly killed Houston with 4 of his goals. This guy is a like an passionate, hungry, poor man's Adriano. He'll probably move on to greener
pastures (England/Spain/Italy) come this summer.

Posted by: la_chingada | February 24, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Bare would probably be a DP with talent like that.

Posted by: United fury | February 24, 2008 6:20 PM | Report abuse

So what about the second half, don't leave us hang'n goff

Posted by: Joe | February 24, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

And the beat goes on....

Lots of money spent.
Still.No.Goals

After watching houston last night........

Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

Bare would probably be a DP with talent like that.

Posted by: United fury | February 24, 2008 06:20 PM

Luckily we have a spare DP slot laying around gathering dust. Having him spell Emilio might be a good thing. Get KP on the phone!

Posted by: Yes! | February 24, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Niell w/a knee bruise?!

Posted by: BigWave | February 24, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

This kid Stratford might be a great pick-up.

I will say the only thing I've read or seen is MLS.net's DC page, but if he has that pedigree, he'll just need to pick up his speed of play to the MLS/International pace . . .

Nice job Kasper/Payne!!!

Posted by: delantero | February 24, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Fitness and time. What we need is fitness and time...

...Though I know some people in here, after seeing another scoreless preseason friendly, need a drink.

Posted by: B.A. | February 24, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

DCU has a DP slot, but no salary cap space. The roster is probably not going to change significantly for quite some time.

Yes, Niell bruised his knee shortly after entering the game and came off. Was it not clear what I wrote?

Posted by: Goff | February 24, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Niell started the second half but left with a knee bruise.
Goff
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Looks pretty clear from here.

Posted by: seahawkdad | February 24, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

DCU has a DP slot, but no salary cap space. The roster is probably not going to change significantly for quite some time.

Yes, Niell bruised his knee shortly after entering the game and came off. Was it not clear what I wrote?

Posted by: Goff | February 24, 2008 06:53 PM
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No salary cap space or not enough salary cap space for a DP? Those are two fairly distinct things. Also, don't we still have a ton of allocation money to buy down any new addition(s)?

Posted by: Jason | February 24, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

did boswell stink it up or what last night?

the boswell era begins in houston. sloooooooooowwwwwwwww

Posted by: castroviejo | February 24, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Not enough salary cap space (as far as anyone who follows this strange league knows).

For the 10th time, Kasper said weeks ago the team is not planning any major roster moves before the season starts. And no MLS team is going to pay major bucks on a transfer fee to acquire a player from overseas. MLS = free transfers.

Posted by: Goff | February 24, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Niell w/a knee bruise?!
BigWave
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Expressed as a form of shock and dismay...

Posted by: Anonymous | February 24, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I wasn't suggesting a "major" roster move. I was thinking more in terms of quality back-ups at certain positions (i.e. holding midfield, leftback, wide midfielders). Those are areas where I see us having trouble if a starter goes down for an extended period of time. We have some depth, but I question if we're moving to solidfy the areas where we don't have decent coverage.

Posted by: Jason | February 24, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Niell bruised his knee shortly after entering the game and came off. Was it not clear what I wrote?

Posted by: Goff | February 24, 2008 06:53 PM


Damn you are one touchy fella.

Posted by: Now go away or I shall mock you for a second time | February 24, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Bare' (Brazilian forward for Gamba) put on a show against Houston last night, scoring 4 goals in a 6 to 1 thumping.

The guy has skill AND strength. He's a very good finisher. Not only for this game but for hist last 2 or 3 years in the J-league.

Can we sign him?

Posted by: Get HIM | February 24, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Judging from how Osaka looked against MLS competition, Bare would have to view MLS as a step down (as much as it pains me to say it). I don't know how indicative Osaka's play is of the J-League in general, but in their preseason they looked a lot like us during the peak of our winning streak last season. The speed of play and skill level were both clearly higher for Gamba. Sure, they are closer to the beginning of their season than MLS is, but is there any team here that could thrash Houston 6-1 given the same circumstances?

Any MLS team would be happy to start Bare, who looks like he'd instantly be as good as any striker in the league. However, I'd think he'd be more likely to sign in Europe or back in Brazil.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 24, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Now go away or I shall mock you for a second time | February 24, 2008 07:54 PM
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In case you've forgotten, this is Goff's blog and we are his guests. Guests do not tell hosts to "go away." Guests who don't find a party to their liking are free to excuse themselves.

Posted by: tri-village | February 24, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Nothing is good enough for some of you folks.

I read Goff several times a day, and so do many of you. It's the best soccer news blog in the USA. If you want instantaneous info on everything that interests you, quit your job, cultivate sources, and pursue the news yourself.

The level of ingratitude for a FREE soccer news blog that is the leader in its category is frankly shocking. I really find that sense of entitlement to be really appalling.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | February 24, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Comments from an Observer @ the Game

Horrible field conditions. Standing water in the corners and sand put down in several places to dry our the field.

Niell made some great moves in his 1 minute of play. Niell's injury seemed much more significant then a knee bruise (Seemed like an ankle problem). He was not able to put any weight on the leg and had to be carried off by the trainers. He was on crutches after the game. I am sure steve's source is more accurate then my observation but it didn't look good.

Looking good:
Center back combo: Lots of communication. Broke up several attacks

Not looking so good:
Gallardo- Maybe he was not going full on, but he was very tentative and didn't take on a lot of people. Mainly got the ball and 1 touched it away. Didn't really make a strong mark on the game. He is also very slight and got bodied off the ball easily.


Other news- Santino Quaranta is training/trialing with the team. He warmed up but did not suit up for the game.

Will post more if I think of it.

Posted by: Jai | February 24, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed that there is time to post graphic photos of a broken leg in the EPL, but not a word is mentioned of Spurs Carling Cup victory. Oh, there it is...GLORY GLORY TOTTENHAM HOTSPURS!!!

Posted by: Andy In Asheville | February 24, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

'Tino's training with United or San Jose?

Posted by: AlecW81 | February 24, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

'Tino's training with United or San Jose?

Posted by: AlecW81 | February 24, 2008 10:00 PM
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Tino is training with United. Should have been more specific, but I am a United fan on a United blog :)

Posted by: Jai | February 24, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Houston had no answer to Gamba Osaka's Brazilian forward Bare. But their not the only team having trouble containing an opposing forward.

Earlier this Serie A season Udinese had trouble at Genoa as they let Marco Borriello get a hat-trick. Fast-forward a few months and Borriello comes to Udinese. And gets another 3 goals:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=224396&cc=5901

Posted by: garbaggio | February 24, 2008 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Some people's ignorance astounds me. They think Goff is actually holding back info until he is asked the same stupid questions over and over again.I believe Big Wave was dismayed by Niell's Knee injury and it wasnt a question. But I do agree with M. Juan (shock and dismay) that people take for granted the best blog in the US on soccer. It would get on my nerves too if I busted tail to get ACCURATE info out as soon as possible, only to have some idget get snotty about it and want more info NOW! Today's society is spoiled by instant gratification. I'll step down of the soapbox now......Vamos United!!

Posted by: boda united | February 24, 2008 10:50 PM | Report abuse

Not only did Bare show his class, but did you see the guy's eyes? He looks like he's two sandwiches short of a picnic. This guy is like a combination of Adriano and John Hartson. Bare was clearly in a class of his own among their Osaka's foreigners; Lucas, the other Brasilian looked like an MLS level foreign player, but Bare was at another level.

Posted by: la_chingada | February 24, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Judging from how Osaka looked against MLS competition, Bare would have to view MLS as a step down (as much as it pains me to say it). I don't know how indicative Osaka's play is of the J-League in general, but in their preseason they looked a lot like us during the peak of our winning streak last season. The speed of play and skill level were both clearly higher for Gamba. Sure, they are closer to the beginning of their season than MLS is, but is there any team here that could thrash Houston 6-1 given the same circumstances?

Any MLS team would be happy to start Bare, who looks like he'd instantly be as good as any striker in the league. However, I'd think he'd be more likely to sign in Europe or back in Brazil.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | February 24, 2008 08:43 PM


Chest, I admit that I didn't see the Osaka game against the Dynamo, but I did watch the game against the Galaxy (don't ask why, I don't know). They only beat the Gals 1-0. They hardly looked like world beaters and I would say from that game MLS was either on par or better than the J-League (everyone in MLS can beat the Galaxy, right?).

My point isn't actually that one league is better than the other. Instead I chalk this up to a meaningless preseason exhibition tournament with teams that aren't fit, that are resting players, and that simply aren't trying their hardest to win.

I don't think the tournament is a bad thing. It's nice for MLS teams to play teams from other leagues instead of college teams, USL teams and the U-17s, but I don't think it speaks to the relaive strength of each league.

Posted by: GoldenChild | February 24, 2008 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one getting a little concerned about the lack of scoring and winning anything.

Granted this is pre-season and you have to be patient but it seems as if we have gone weeks without scoring more than 1 goal and just haven't been able to beat anyone.

Posted by: Nick | February 25, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

Is Gamba in season? It sounded like the MLS teams were on Vaginacation, what was the status of the J&A league teams? First folks were ripping how lame this panpacific thing was... I didn't think anyone was gonna watch it.
I am glad they kept clyde off the pitch. He may really need to be there soon. I hope Ben gets better soon. Those guys should do a movie some day...
Dude where is the Harbor View game being played at?

Posted by: Dadryan | February 25, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Where is the harbor view game being played at?
SimmsN'Olsen...

Posted by: dadryan | February 25, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

I watched both the Championship and consolation PanPacific games. Good stuff.

Posted by: Officer McNulty | February 25, 2008 1:23 AM | Report abuse

Australia's A-League just completed their (relatively short) regular season a few weeks ago. FC Sydney got bounced out of the playoffs just before they came out to PanPacific.

Japan's J-League (like MLS) is in preseason mode. Furthermore, Gamba was missing between 5 and 7 starters. That is what I have gleaned from various accounts. 6 - 1 is a downright shellacking in any case, but it could have been even worse.

One big thing that could have been overlooked ... Eddie Robinson would NEVER have let Bare score four goals. Patrick Ianni is not Eddie Robinson. That aside, Gamba completely dominated the run of play and could have scored even more goals.

Posted by: Liverpool_SC | February 25, 2008 6:29 AM | Report abuse

A significant number of Gamba Osaka's goals can be contributed to Bare outpacing Boswell and Ianni. I personally read too much into the margin of victory as a sign of J. League superiority, but rather the depth and cohesion of a club able to operate without a paltry salary cap.

...And knowing how to exploit Boswell and Ianni.

Posted by: B.A. | February 25, 2008 6:49 AM | Report abuse

First off, Goff, you're amazing. Don't let them bring you down.

Second, I personally don't think the J-League is better than MLS. I've seen a few J-League matches in-person and while its on-par with MLS, its certainly not better.

Posted by: strago | February 25, 2008 7:03 AM | Report abuse

Houston Defense will give them trouble all year, people you have to remember they lost 4-0 to LA 1 day before this game. Boswell and Ianni where torched and Barret probaly had his worst game as a pro. Maybe losing Ngwenya and Jaqua will hurt the dtnamo more than they thought. Those forwards could hold the ball, the dynamos forwards kept losing the ball and the D just let everyone roll by them. Unless changes are made to there D. The Dynamo will not win the cup this year. In fact they might have trouble making the playoffs at all.

Posted by: Houston_down and out | February 25, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

The Dynamo was mostly undone for not having DeRosario on the plastic green. This left Holden and Mulroney running in desperation to generate offense. They made multiple mistakes, giving up balls that might have led to shots, and leaving the defense badly exposed.

Boswell made one great play to save one one-one on break when the game was still close -- but he was already back in position. When Bare got the ball with Boswell playing farther upfield, Boswell was beaten badly -- repeatedly -- just like when the Fire kept going over the United defense. I hope Tommy Soehn was watching.

Actually, this game wasn't as one-sided as some are saying. Osaka had a 2-1 lead at half, but the Dynamo were basically controlling the run of play in the second half, until the game suddenly came apart on them. Still, the talent gap was noticeable -- and it wasn't just Bare. A couple of the Osaka midfielders showed great capability in starting the breaks, with ball skills and understanding I don't see much in MLS.

Posted by: FischFry | February 25, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

My son was at the game in San Luis Obispo.

He reported that the backline was very impressive. They played well as a unit: Martinez was calm, a good distributor from the back, and good on the ball; Peralta is rugged and a good man-marker, a natural for MLS.

The midfield was on the whole good, and the passing was very sharp at times. Fred was the best player on the field. He was creative and hard-working in the attack. Gallardo got the same treatment Gomez got for years - a lot of fouls and physical play to upset his game. He'll need to adjust.

The keepers were both solid, and it looks like a battle for the #1 is shaping up. But having a #1 and a #1a could be the outcome.

On a very positive note, the subs picked up the game in the second half. Of particular note was the play of Justin Moose. He played like he wanted to make it hard for the coach to keep him out of the lineup.

The least promising area was up top. Missed chances by Emilio and no real connection between the forwards. Sadly, Jaime looked like "old" Jaime instead of "the old" Jaime."

No matter what happened on the pitch, Jaime remains an absolute class act off of it, taking time to chat and shake hands both before and after the game. The guy is DC United and needs to be a part of the club long after his playing days are over.

My son said the San Jose fans were also impressed, and they think United has a good chance to be the team to beat in MLS this year.

Posted by: RD | February 25, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

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