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The Good, The Bad, The Coyote Ugly

Wrapping up Week 8.....

THE GOOD

*Edson Buddle's hat trick.
*Marcelo Gallardo's change of direction and well-placed goal.
*TFC Coach John Carver, on Columbus's tactics: "They've come to spoil the game. They've come to take their time. They've come to fall over and dive all over the park, and I think that's what they did. Any team to go six wins out of seven and have a game plan like that surprises me a little bit."
*Carver, on being lectured by the fourth official: "They want me to sit down in the dugout with me arms folded and me legs crossed and just be a nice little boy. Well, no ... I'm a passionate guy ... and if that is taken away from me, then it's not worth me being here and being a part of this. But I'm not going to let them win, that's for sure."
*Defender Jimmy Conrad's team-leading third goal, all off set pieces from Carlos Marinelli, for Kansas City, which has won only twice at New York in 17 tries.
*Dallas drawing more than 22,000 and all six weekend games attracting at least 13,000.
*Kheli Dube's first career goal, six minutes into his first start for New England.
*Chivas USA's first-ever victory over DCU and first-ever comeback victory.
*Toronto 2-0-2 at home with one goal allowed, and a five-game unbeaten streak heading into two meetings with D.C. United this week.
*Chivas winning despite the absence of nine injured players, including six defenders.
*Jorge Flores, who earned a roster spot during an open tryout last year, scoring his first career goal.
*David Beckham's cross to Buddle to complete the hat trick.
*Columbus's six-game unbeaten streak.
*Danleigh Borman's second goal in a week for New York and second amusing goal celebration in a week.
*Bobby Boswell's first goal since 2006 and Houston's second straight win after two losses and a tie.
*TFC captain Jim Brennan, on Michael Wilbon's condemnation of streamers being thrown during corner kicks: "I saw the PTI guy talking and all that, and he talks out of his ass anyways. You know it's part of the game. They do it all over the world and down there [United States] they complain because they watch their sports and they sit in the stands and really don't do much."
*Hollywood United, an amateur team led by TV star Anthony LaPaglia, qualifying for the U.S. Open Cup.

THE BAD

*DCU's six goals conceded in the final 15 minutes of games.
*San Jose shut out for the sixth time in eight matches. (Although James Riley put the ball into the net Saturday -- his own. And it was awful.)
*Dallas's atrocious defending on Buddle's first goal, in which he beat four passive defenders.
*Chicago just 2-2 at home while 3-0-1 on the road.

THE COYOTE UGLY

*Adrian Serioux's brutal sideline tackle (and red card) on Beckham, who waves bye-bye to the Dallas midfielder.
*DCU's late collapse.
*Riley's own goal.
*Red cards to New York's Dave Van Den Bergh and Coach Juan Carlos Osorio.
*Ricardo Clark's twice-deflected shot for Houston's first goal.
*Dallas Coach Steve Morrow: "It was an embarrassing performance. We're all ashamed of ourselves in the locker room and, ultimately, I'll take responsibility for that as a coach. But, obviously, we're going through a rough time at the moment."

Did I miss anything?

By Steve Goff  |  May 19, 2008; 9:15 AM ET
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Comments

I don't even know what to say.....I'm gutted.

M50 row1

Posted by: Smitty | May 19, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

the Bad - DC United allowing Dave Kasper to go to South America and bring back players. please stop this. Other continents have decent players. Let's go find some. Well, let Kasper go down there once more but just cancel his flight back.

Posted by: Truth Man | May 19, 2008 9:41 AM | Report abuse

More Coyote Ugly: Wells in goal, Dyachenko anywhere on the pitch, DCU's kickball tribute to the Rockettes.

Posted by: Frustrated@Fort Benning | May 19, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to assume because no one else has mentioned it that Namoff just needed to stretch out the injury that kept him off the field for the last ten minutes of the game and will be perfectly fine for the games against Toronto? Please??

Posted by: bluemeanies | May 19, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Let's be honest. The Gallardo goal was fantastic but other than that he was pretty terrible. He comes way back, gets the ball, and passes to the other team.

Posted by: One More Thing | May 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

the coyote ugly: dcu fans' non-stop "the world is ending" complaining.

Posted by: mizage | May 19, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

KC beat NY?

Posted by: Misremembering | May 19, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Tha Barra Brava travelling cross country in support of United. Let's see some other supporters group from the west coast do that.

Posted by: HulhHogan | May 19, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

KC beat NY?
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My bad

Posted by: Goff | May 19, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

NY and KC drew. NY tied it a man down and very nearly won.

Hollywood United has a "Derek Droze" on its squad. Is this Derk Droze, the forward who flirted with the fringes of the US national team in the mid to late 90s, and played in Denmark, Chile, and who knows where else, and had trials with San Jose and Metro? RINGERS UNITED.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | May 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Tom Soehn hasent resigned yet?

Posted by: the jim | May 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Steve, any possible ramifications for the team not granting you access?

Posted by: DirtyHarry | May 19, 2008 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, Goff, wasn't trying to pile on.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | May 19, 2008 9:55 AM | Report abuse

mizage, the world is not ending - rather, we as passionate DCU fans, are extremely frustrated with the team right now. And we are not seeing any changes being made for the better. So, yes, we're going to complain. We're going to complain until changes are made that improve the team. We know there will always be rough patches and streaks one way or another, but what we are getting right now comes across as a complete collapse and lack of effort.

Posted by: downtown | May 19, 2008 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Steve, any possible ramifications for the team not granting you access?

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they'll probably get fined

Posted by: Goff | May 19, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

How Riley's OG didn't make Coyote Ugly is amazing! That was the worst thing I've ever seen in a match. Ever.

Posted by: Kev | May 19, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Oops! Riley's goal did make it. I need more caffeine!

Posted by: Kev | May 19, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Dark Room...

Scotch Whiskey...

Taurus .357 Magnum revolver...

Why?

Why? Do we suck so bad?

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I am the laughing stock of MLS mascots!

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Mrs. Talon has filed divorce papers!

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Talon Jr. is getting beat up at school!

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Dr. Phil wants me on his show!

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Dammit! Can't we do anything right?

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Posted by: Talon | May 19, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Hollywood United has a "Derek Droze" on its squad. Is this Derk Droze, the forward who flirted with the fringes of the US national team in the mid to late 90s, and played in Denmark, Chile, and who knows where else, and had trials with San Jose and Metro? RINGERS UNITED.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | May 19, 2008 9:54 AM

Indeed, he's a local guy too. Went to St. Mary's Ryken and GW (for a bit), if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: Kev | May 19, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Schelletto getting a yellow for diving v. Toronto.

The MLS refs supposedly circulated a video of Carver last week. If they're watching video, they might want to circulate one with Blanco's greatest flops. It's disgraceful to allow that to continue, and even hype it for ticket sales, while putting a bulls eye on Carver.

Posted by: Old WNT Fan | May 19, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly:
RSL's lackadaisical performance in a "rivalry" game.

Posted by: Timtoteo | May 19, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Talon:

Magnificent post!

Hang in there, feathered buddy.

SG

Posted by: Goff | May 19, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Reported attendance at the DCU-Chivas match: 13K.

Actual attendance: well below 13K

Posted by: Stags | May 19, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Talon,

Pass the ammunition...

I have Deer Hunter playing on the TV...

Posted by: Erick | May 19, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Pat Onstad had an even worse own goal in his first season. Wish I could find video of it, but he basically punched the ball in his own net.

Posted by: VW&DCU | May 19, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Steve, who's on the short-list to replace Soehn, whether it's on an interim or permanent basis? Any names you can reveal?

Posted by: cuzco03 | May 19, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

There is no list at the moment.

I suggest Dave Sarachan, with Arena, Rongen, Nowak and Hudson as his assistants.

;-)

Posted by: Goff | May 19, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

the Bad - DC United allowing Dave Kasper to go to South America and bring back players. please stop this. Other continents have decent players. Let's go find some. Well, let Kasper go down there once more but just cancel his flight back.

Posted by: Truth Man | May 19, 2008 9:41 AM

This is idiocy. Save it for Big Soccer...

Posted by: JkR | May 19, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

the coyote ugly: dcu fans' non-stop "the world is ending" complaining.

Posted by: mizage | May 19, 2008 9:46 AM

This is the truth...

The whining on thos blog by the posters has sunk to Ives like levels...

Posted by: JkR | May 19, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

The Good:

Kenny Cooper's assist. I can't wait to see him on the MNT.

Drama in Serie A.

The Ugly:

Zaragoza being relegated. Aimar was a terrible acquisition this year.

Real Madrid adding another prize to their collection -- Ezequiel Garay from Racing, today. Give Barca a chance!

The Coyote Ugly:

AC Milan pulling a Bayern Munich.

mlsnet.com being the only web site that can consistently crash Firefox.

Posted by: RK | May 19, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

what's the category below 'coyote ugly'?

i think you should flip this item from the 'good' and put it there:

DC lost to a Chivas team without nine injured players, including six defenders.

Also, we have more losses (6) than San Jose (5)!!!

Posted by: pat | May 19, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Was it just me or was the ref at the DCU/CUSA match really miffed at something? Was it Michael Kennedy? This guy was vein popping mad. Not unless I missed something, he was really ticked at Doe in particular and spent more time yelling at DCU players and missing the blatant hack jobs being leveled on Gallardo. Not to make any excuses because we got what we had coming to us in that game, but I can't get that image of the ref being so mad so early into the game.

Posted by: Kosh | May 19, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse


Dear Jim Brennan [douche],

Before YOU talk out of your ass, understand something: Fans all over the world do throw streamers on the field. But no where else in the world, do they throw streamers and interfere with the play on the field. That's the big difference. Wilbon wasn't objecting to throwing streamers. He was objecting to interfering with play.

And before you talk out of your ass and about us sitting on ours hands "down here", let's reflect on what you do up there [Canada].

1) Try supporting your own league for 12 years. Wait a minute, you can't even support your own league "up there" because nobody would show up for a Canadian league.
2) Try starting more than player from "up there" on your team. You can't because Toronto would end up in last place if they tried to play more than one Canadian player.
3) Try qualifying for 5 consecutive World Cups. Better yet, try qualifying for ONE World Cup "up there"
4) Who the F are you?

Posted by: Ameobi | May 19, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Thank goodness, I though you were about to say that Bora Milutinovic was next in line to take over for Soehn, Goff. You scared the daylights out me there for a sec.

Posted by: Kosh | May 19, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Jim Brennan is talking out of his ass.

Typical CFL fan compared to NFL fan.

Blue Jays and (Expos before they had to move to average, States-side MLB fans.

Sure the Leafs, Habs and every other Canadian hockey team is king in their respective cities. No doubt. But are you telling me that Red Wings, Flyers, Bruins, and Rangers fans (just to name a few) "sit on their hands". No there was never a the sort of NHL riot down here like ones that have taken place in Montreal or Vancouver (of all places, who'da guessed that one). So, sure they get the edge for NHL.

Raptors fans--get a bit more and they compare to most NBA fans.


I love Canadian sports and I got nothing against Canucks, as a rule I'm actually very fond of them but I gotta ask-- who is talking out of their ass?

Looks like Wilbon has some more company.

Posted by: yankiboy | May 19, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Whoa Ameobi...dial down the jingoism a bit please.

Posted by: DE | May 19, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

RK...

Zaragoza had Aimar last year as well... and they were 7th this year in goals scored (50), but 4th in goals allowed (61).

Looks like more of a defensive issue, don't you think?

Posted by: d, dc | May 19, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Carver may not have an option if he is finally dismissed from the field one of these days. MLS and its officials have made bench behavior a major point of emphasis. And the crackdown appears to have begun in earnest. You had the guys form Colorado sent off last week. And now we see Osorio dismissed this week. Others will surely follow until they get the message.

Blanco did FINALLY get a caution (for dissent) in the 93rd minute. Why the ref didn't bother doing it about 74 minutes before then is the baffling thing to me.

And while I am on the officials, yes Michael Kennedy was in a bad mood for no apparent reason for the DC-CHV match. I don't know that I have ever seen a referee get that wound up that he had to scream at the players so much. Maybe because he is Niell-sized he thinks he needs to get mad to have some authority. I think he doesn't help himself by doing it. And he certainly doesn't help himself by refusing to protect the skill players. Gallardo had every right to be pissed with him for not doing more to stop the persistent fouls he was suffering. And yet he is the one who gets the caution.

Posted by: Glenn | May 19, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Going off on Capitan Canuck made me temporarily forget how awful our home MLS side is looking right now.

Saturday was dreadful. Shortly after 10pm, my brother text messaged me a message from the HDC, excited at being at the match. I haven't heard from the dude since. Not a text, not a phone call. The Brutha might of decided to join the witness protection after travelling to support United and seeing them go belly up like your pet goldfish does after you gave him too much to eat.

Posted by: yankiboy | May 19, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Guys,

It's time to call the rest of this summer - pre-season for SuperLiga and Champions League.

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | May 19, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

d: Whoops! Was thinking about another ex-Valencia player, Ayala. They lost Gabi Milito and just didn't make up for it, which is a shame because they were starting to improve after promotion a few years ago. They had Aimar as a fullback this week, actually!

Posted by: RK | May 19, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly

Hack-a-Gallardo defenses

Posted by: phil | May 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Well, guess what. Even if DC United were good, they ain't doing nothin' in Superliga or CL or whatever other regional tournament there might be. MLS teams, good or bad, do not have the roster depth to win any of these regional tournaments. When MLS's minimum player salary is greater than $100k, then talk to me about the superligas, etc.

Like it or not, the MLS playoffs are the only game in town for DC United. Can our present coach get us there? I think not, no matter who is healthy on this squad.

Posted by: Ron | May 19, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

to the "ugly" category I would add Beckham's taunting of the Dallas team and players. Show some class, buddy.

and Dulio Davino's "auto gol" followed by his mis-clearance that turned out to be a perfect looping pass for another Buddle goal.

Posted by: Glenn | May 19, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"Hack-a-Gallardo defenses"

The great problem all MLS teams who rely on a single playmaker have faced. Hell, even Van Den Burgh's red card came after 60 minutes of ceaseless hacking and shirt pulling, and he's hardly a classic #10.

On the other hand, DC has not been innocent of "hack-a-playmaker" defense themselves.

Hard to get too indignant about it.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | May 19, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

I went to school with Sarachan's kid Ian. Pretty good soccer player.

Posted by: The jim | May 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"the Bad - DC United allowing Dave Kasper to go to South America and bring back players. please stop this. Other continents have decent players. Let's go find some. Well, let Kasper go down there once more but just cancel his flight back.

Posted by: Truth Man | May 19, 2008 9:41 AM "

HAHAHAHA, hit the nail on the head!! For one thing, let's do what we can to get just ONE young U.S.-born star on the team who is in the USMNT player pool. Is that too much to ask? I guess it is.

Let's go get some more third-rate, overated South Americans!!!!!

Posted by: Ted Brogan | May 19, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Guys,

It's time to call the rest of this summer - pre-season for SuperLiga and Champions League.

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | May 19, 2008 10:44 AM

Amen to that. Throw in the US Open Cup while you're at it. At this point for DCU, hardware is hardware.

Posted by: BillyBob | May 19, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

I can't evan imagin what is going on behind the door these days for DCU. A lot finger pointings and uncomfortable face offs, I guess. Hope it gets better.

Posted by: FC Arlington | May 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA, hit the nail on the head!! For one thing, let's do what we can to get just ONE young U.S.-born star on the team who is in the USMNT player pool. Is that too much to ask? I guess it is.
Let's go get some more third-rate, overated South Americans!!!!!
Posted by: Ted Brogan | May 19, 2008 11:04 AM
xxxxxxx
Which is non-existance. If there are U.S. born stars, I am sure every MLS would jump right on to them. When rarely find someone such as Rossi they couldn't recogniz the talent and lose to over seas.

Posted by: sky | May 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree with those posters who've commented on Kasper's South American obsession. Yes, Gallardo has terific talent, and Carvallo may be a good GK (hard to tell as little as he's been used). Peralta is not any better than Boswell and Vanney, Martinez is average (and far below average on Saturday's winning goal - going for the body instead of defending the ball), and my dog could have told Kasper that Niell wouldn't make it in MLS' highly physical game.

Posted by: BillyBob | May 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Below Coyote Ugly would be FUBAR.

Martinez going for that header on the sideline and taking himself out of the play.

No one covering Atiba Harris on all those goals.

Team chemistry.

Posted by: spike_2.0 | May 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

The Coyote Ugly: The WNBA on ABC Saturday rather than any MLS match.

Posted by: Andy | May 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Either "bad" or "coyote ugly" would be defensive malcontent Wilman Conde coming on late in the Fire-Dynamo match and proceeding to commit a really dumb and unnecessary foul, which he then compounded by arguing with the ref while Houston quickly restarted and scored on the play. With that kind of play, Osorio can have him.

Posted by: notabbott | May 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

1) DCU has a lot of good players, but their playing styles and strengths do not mesh, and that is why they suck right now. Gallardo could be absurdly good...if he had more talent around him that could benefit from his skills. If you give Gallardo two forwards with pace in place of Emilio and Moreno, and he could be picking apart defenses. Right now, if he plays a killer through ball, he has to hope the the opponent's backline all gets massive body cramps for Emilio or Moreno to get to the ball first. Its like buying a Porsche without tires. The car may be super fast, but without tires it is going nowhere.
2) Martinez is the best pick-up this offseason. He plays with intensity and pushes the team forward. Peralta and Niell are different stories all together.
3) DCU's FO grossly underestimated the impact Gallardo would have in place of Gomez based on the total quality of the players on the pitch with Gallardo/Gomez. Gomez does not need 10 other good players to play with to be a difference-maker, whereas Gallardo needs more quality players around him to make an impact. Its not that hard to see. For another analogy, Soehn is trying to build a car with parts from five or six different cars. All the parts don't fit together, so there is no car to drive.

Posted by: therealfootball | May 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

The good: Brandon McDonald's sublime assist to Chris Klein for the Galaxy's first goal. One of the best passes I've seen in MLS in a long time.

Posted by: Todd H. | May 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

For another analogy, Soehn is trying to build a car with parts from five or six different cars. All the parts don't fit together, so there is no car to drive.

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As far as I see, that analogy is only partially true. Obviously, he's not Rafa Benitez, with all the parts that he wants to put together the dream car and implement his vision for what style and structures will be used.

How many high school coaches have exactly the players that they want in order to do what they want? Unless they have a nice feeder system and large club environment and many athletes to choose from, they must be creative and do two things.

1. Find out their players' technical strengths and weaknesses, and know the general situation as far as their league's strengths and weaknesses (or presumed rivals).

2. Implement formations and tactics that will fit as best as possible the players they have and will work effectively against their league.

No matter what the technical issues may be, there can be no excuses when it comes to fitness level and gas in the tank. All players must be fit or they will not play -- no matter how technically sound they may be. All players must improve their fitness in a documented environment (beep test, whatever) or they will not play.

High school coaches do this because they must. I guess things are different in MLS?

Posted by: spike_2.0 | May 19, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

The bad continues to include the poor attendance at MLS "Soccer Specific Stadiums". Despite the official attendance figures, HDC looked and sounded deserted. Massive swaths of empty seats in Chicago. Depressing and anything but telegenic. Frisco looked a bit better but still quite a few empty seats right in front of the camera. In fairness, a decent crowd for Dallas, but even when Dallas scored, all I could hear were a few people clapping. The larger problem of course being Dallas got creamed in front of what is for them a good crowd.

Posted by: Ron | May 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

disclaimer: this is not to explain or excuse the loss to CUSA.

regarding the hack-a-Gallardo, or to be more general, the hack-a-#10, is the league concerned about this at all? Before Saturday's game disintegrated (from DCU fans' point of view), I thought the two stories were Gallardo's amazing goal, and the relentless hacking of Gallardo.

Does the league worry about players not wanting to come to a league where they will not be protected? Now I'm not saying a #10 can't ever be fouled, or that the ref should have a special standard for fouls against #10s, but the game Saturday seemed particularly cynical, and the ref seemed not be interested in changing that.

Posted by: Rob | May 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Peralta isn't as good as Boswell. Bobby made more than his fair share of mistakes, but he could handle the ball a little.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

In the battle between officials and coaches? The officials will always win. USSF has been aggressively telling 4ths and referees to deal with improper bench behavior, and we're seeing the fruits of it this week.

By the way, coaches don't get red cards. They are "dismissed."

Posted by: Sean M. | May 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

If only USSF would dedicate half as much attention to simulation as they do with this whole bench behavior deal. I am not suggesting that benches get away with who knows what they are doing, but I would like to see more punishments being handed out to the divers and cheaters on the field.

Posted by: Kosh | May 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

sh*t...james riley's got nothing on me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im_sME-zlQA

Posted by: iain dowie | May 19, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly: Payne is still here. Please just leave . . .

Posted by: PleaseGoYellSomewhere | May 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

The Coyote Ugly: My fantasy team after neither Dallas, Columbus nor Chicago come away with wins.

Posted by: Beaker | May 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Payne's part owner, he isn't going anywhere.

Posted by: GetOverIt | May 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Whoever mentioned it taking so long for Blanco to finally get a yellow, same goes Schelloto. He was in the ref's face pretty much from the 20th minute on. How it took 70 minutes for him to get a yellow is beyond me.

Honestly, it looked like the refs went into this weekend's games with a mandate across the board to let the players play. Unfortunately, MLS refs aren't good enough to manage a game that way, and so we saw a ton of rough fouls and hacking, and not much in the way of pretty soccer. Even LA's offensive clinic in Dallas had some ugly fouls and cards that never should have happened had the ref been more in control.

Posted by: Kenobi | May 19, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

More 90 percent (rough estimate) of the MLS players have no foot skill. That's why you see the type of hacking to Gallardo. But of course refs are dumb enough to not notice that type of play because they are clueless except to show off their ugly angry side.

Posted by: td | May 19, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately, for the law and order types, MLS and USSF also have a mandate this year (among their many) to let the games "flow" more and to call fewer fouls. Last week's "lessons learned" memo crowed about one match that only had something like 13 or 14 fouls called which was a near record for fewest fouls in a game. Unfortunately as the players catch on to this I think we will see more hack fests until the pendulum swings back and Tamberino and Hall start telling the referees to crack down on all the fouling that is not being called.

Posted by: Glenn | May 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Good: The New York Red Bulls fan who managed to not drop or spill his beer when he ran onto the field to hug Danleigh Borman after the game-tying goal in the KC-NY game.

Posted by: John Doe | May 19, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

There world is ending.

No, not really. DC has plenty of talent; but how many times are guys going to loose their markups in the final third? I mean, that has nothing to do with talent and everything to do with discipline. It has to come from the senior players and the coach, but it seems like most of the older guys on United are not leaders, or they don't speak sufficient english to be able to lead on the field. Maybe the key to this team was Olson, and without him, DC is lost.

Posted by: Hacksaw | May 19, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the key to this team was Olson, and without him, DC is lost.

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The only thing worse than losing is losing and not learning anything from it. This slide could be the best thing that could happen to DCU: no more complacency, no more "we win because it's our tradition" bs.

Train hard, don't be stupid, work together, show up and fight for ninety-odd minutes, and you'll be a success in my book, whatever the score. Do it right, and the score will take care of itself.

Sometimes getting pimp-slapped is a necessary part of the learning process.

Get Back To Basics

Posted by: spike_2.0 | May 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

You too beaker?
Who could have seen that coming right?
Good thing Landon scored again...

Posted by: Dadryan | May 19, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Goff,

How can you defend Carver, that's terrible!

Schelloto was hacked on multiple occasions and the TFC players should have gotten cautions. You can't blame Schelloto for going down easy and at the same time say nothing about TFC's thuggish defending.

Posted by: DC_fan | May 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

You too beaker?
Who could have seen that coming right?
Good thing Landon scored again...

Posted by: Dadryan | May 19, 2008 5:38 PM

I just haven't been able to bring myself to put him on my team. It's a block of some sort;-)

Posted by: Beaker | May 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

The good Gallardo's goal of the week soon vote here
http://web.mlsnet.com/sights/goal_of_the_week/

Posted by: FC Arlington | May 19, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA, hit the nail on the head!! For one thing, let's do what we can to get just ONE young U.S.-born star on the team who is in the USMNT player pool. Is that too much to ask? I guess it is.

Let's go get some more third-rate, overated South Americans!!!!!

Posted by: Ted Brogan | May 19, 2008 11:04 AM
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To be fair, history has shown that the DC front office has an awfully good record when it comes to getting players from South America. Say, for example, DC's three MLS MVPs (Marco, Gomez, Emilislow) and three time MVP finalist and all-time MLS leading scorer Moreno. Sure there have been some dogs, but those are relatively easy to get rid of and not that significant in the long term. It might just be that this year's "crop" is a dud and/or for whatever reason, isn't suited to playing well with each other.

And as for having "home-grown" (ie. US) talent with national team skillz, well, DC's got a pretty good long-term track record of that. Or did you forget Pope, Agoos, Harkes, Convey, Adu, and even Ben Olsen? Sure, there's no one of that caliber on the squad right now, but the reality is that in the last few years, MLS teams have had a much much harder time retaining quality US players, not to mention those with marginal national team impact (such as Perkins).

So, it's all well and good to vent about what's gone wrong this season, but it's not like the front office has been employing some insane personnel strategy that's never worked in the past.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 19, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

DC_fan: wake up. You CAN say something about Schelloto's diving and NOT say anything about TFC's thuggish defending, because there was a whole lot of one and not much of the other.

Posted by: Skinn | May 19, 2008 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Beaker I hear ya, but if I continued starting players that I "liked" I would be doing even worse than I am now.

Posted by: Dadryan | May 19, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

@Posted by: HulhHogan | May 19, 2008 9:48 AM

not to sound like too huge a jerk, I mean, credit for showing up and in probably greater numbers than RBNY gets for home games, but it's not ALL that much of a badge of honor that you were able to 'convince' a bunch of people to go to one of the vacation capitols of the world for a weekend beach getaway. C'mon. If it was Vancouver in the dead of winter it'd be something else, but showing up in LA for a beach getaway isn't HUGE.

Re Dallas' defense on Buddle's goal. Perhaps I'm mixing up the goals in my head since he had a billion, but if we are talking about the one he had 30 stepovers and other ball tricks on, it's a bit harsh to totally blame FCD's defense. That was a hell of a run and finish. When Cristiano Ronaldo does that people rarely say 'oh horrible defending' they actually give him a litle bit of credit. Let's stop the self loathing train.

Posted by: papa bear | May 20, 2008 6:03 AM | Report abuse

Good (but not for D.C.): Atiba Harris' energy and impact in those 10 minutes that killed United. He forces Wells to spill the ball (Marsch finishes for tying goal) and then crosses for Kljestan's and Flores' goals.


Posted by: Lance Armstrong | May 20, 2008 8:11 AM | Report abuse

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