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Matchday Europe

The bad news: With group play over, only one match to watch.

The good news: Now there's something truly at stake.

First up, Portugal vs. Germany, 2:45 ET (ESPN). Based on first-round form, Cristiano Ronaldo and Portugal have got to be favored, but never count out the Germans in the elimination stage of a major tournament.

This is the place for your match observations.

Enjoy!

By Steve Goff  |  June 19, 2008; 2:29 PM ET
Categories:  European Championship  
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Comments

Portugal all the way. Am staying home and watching it.

Posted by: arlington4united | June 19, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Frings hasn't gotten any better for the Germans.....


:)

Posted by: JkR | June 19, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I dunno, they're not at top form, but I think they're getting Klose.

Posted by: OWNTF | June 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Portugal 2-1.

Posted by: Vic | June 19, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

And never get involved in a land war in Asia.

Posted by: Terp | June 19, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Deutschland wird die beste Fußballmannschaft in Europa

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | June 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Pigf**er with the goal!

Posted by: Matthai | June 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I got to a television just in time for the second goal. Nice shoulder...

Posted by: sitruc | June 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I was going to predict a big win for Germany, but they scored twice too quickly for me...

Posted by: AlecW81 | June 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

ok, never mind. it's over now. Portugal shot themselve in the foot by passing too much. Selfish play by Simao.

Posted by: arlington4united | June 19, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

German engineering is so Sexy!

Posted by: Heidi Klum | June 19, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I love seeing Portugal lose.

Posted by: Matthai | June 19, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

This match is not over.

Posted by: sitruc | June 19, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Great game, great atmosphere...Portugal pulled one back, fortunately. CRonaldo had disappeared after giving up the 2nd German goal, but his move down the side created their goal.

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I'd be surprised if Portugal doesn't get another goal. Can Portugal stop Germany from scoring more though?

Posted by: sitruc | June 19, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Andy Gray seems very unexcited today -- or maybe I'm just used to the color guy being a bit more crazy.

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Ballack give Germany their 3rd goal -- very similar to the 2nd, via a direct kick from way out, and an unmarked header.

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

So far I'm half right about my thoughts...

Posted by: sitruc | June 19, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

As I was saying...

Posted by: Matthai | June 19, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It's not that Germans are winning because they play great but because of Portugese horondus defense, goal keeper's mistake, choke in front of the other side and desasterous shooting displays. All the Portugese players look very subdued.
I can see Spain choking like this.

Posted by: td | June 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Bosingwa -- who has been excellent today -- swings one in to an open Nani who heads it in. 3 left in regulation.

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

td, I think you're spot on about spain and portugal. nonetheless, portugal pulled one back and it is still possible. if they could survive a scare like this, they might realize that you have to play all 90 minutes of the match and not take five minutes off here and there.

Posted by: troy | June 19, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

nani scored? i thought it was postiga?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Portugal does it again. Chokes.

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

In the end my thoughts at half were correct. Portugal eventually scored, but they couldn't stop Germany from scoring.

Posted by: sitruc | June 19, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

3-2 Portugals bogey scoreline

@td

It isn't how you win, more that you just win, baby.

Posted by: Matthai | June 19, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

They were saying Nani, but I could be wrong.

Hey, CRonaldo isn't crying. Maybe because he blew his mark on the second goal, and then whined about it as if it were someone else's fault?

Posted by: RK | June 19, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Now let the bidding war for Christiano Ronaldo begin!

I wonder if Real Madrid's folks have called his agent or ManU already, or will they at least wait a day?

Posted by: Juan-John | June 19, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

ugh, we had our chances too, its the euro's, its not the world cup, so im not too depressed, if this was the world cup, and not the 3rd place match, the quarters of the world cup, depression would set in very quickly

Posted by: portugal4ever | June 19, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Nani put the cross in for Postiga to head in.

Can't understand why Scolari did not use his third sub to put in Quaresma. Simao was useless, Deco invisible and when the going got tough, Cristiano Ronaldo again became a baby.

Sadly, for all the skill in their team, Portuguese defenders and keepers are no better in the air than they were on the first day of Japan Korea 02, aka the McHead Show.

In contrast, Germany was solid enough in back and had three players -- Ballack, Schweinsteiger and Podolski -- who are as skilled and tough as any. Although I hated how Ballack feigned that injury. Don't tell me a guy who can hit the ball like a cannonball and win any header goes down so easily from a tap to the chest.


Posted by: furia yanqui | June 19, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

frankly, i can't wait to see ronaldo suit up for real maryland.

Posted by: longfellow | June 19, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Now I see in the semis Germany v Turkey (huge upset against Croatia. Russia upsets the Dutch and Spain would choke and give Italy the free pass. And then guess what...usual suspects in the final Germany v Italy. I predected this from the beginning and now it may become reality.

Posted by: td | June 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

So much for Ronaldo being the best in the world.

Posted by: Garret | June 19, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It's what the people want.

:)

Ich liebe Deustchland!

Posted by: TCompton | June 19, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

furia yangqui - completely agree.

Posted by: td | June 19, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

it is a pity that the match winning goal by Ballack resulted from an obvious pushing foul from Ballack. The push from behind is the reason Ballack appeared so unmarked in the box.

Posted by: rob | June 19, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

again ronaldo doesn't get it done on the national level. there's lots of players thru history that just can't get it done. put portugal with england and spain(we'll see sun.) as national teams with talent that just don't play good as a team.

Posted by: frank from sf | June 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

That's where the refs come in to change the game. And Ferreira was not smart enough to go down from Ballack's pushing.

Posted by: td | June 19, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Scolari doesn't know how to use Ronaldo effectively, Sir Alex would have given him the option to switch with Simao on the right and connect with Bosingwa who showed more attacking tendencies than Ferreira.

To be fair, the Germans were simply better in this game, more confident with the ball and distribution, better understanding of where their teammates were and showed more hunger throughout the game without desperation.

Posted by: Red Devil | June 19, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Portugal's Most Wanted: Bastian Schweinsteiger

Posted by: Lucky Number 7 | June 19, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

frankly, i can't wait to see ronaldo suit up for real maryland.

Posted by: longfellow | June 19, 2008 4:50 PM

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I'd rather have him suit up for the Nationals. He'd be better than most of the schlubs they run out there now.

Posted by: Teddy R. | June 19, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

On that third German goal, I think that Ricardo should have made it to the ball first. It was a clear push-off by Ballack, but as a goalkeeper, you can't sprint 10 yards off your line towards a free kick and then simply stop.

Zee Germans proved today why so many had tipped them to win before the tournament started.

Posted by: tmc | June 19, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Important result from the South.

Humberto Suazo's 92nd minute goal gets Chile a 3-2 win at Venezuela and keeps the standings pretty interesting.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/matches/round=250491/match=300035298/index.html

I think the result moves Chile up 3 spots passing Brazil, Uruguay and Venezuela to get up to 4th place.

Many more months of qualifiers still to come...

Posted by: garbaggio | June 19, 2008 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Forgot to include the Conmebol standings:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/standings/index.html

Top 4 qualify and #5 plays off against Concacaf #4 for another berth.

Posted by: garbaggio | June 19, 2008 10:57 PM | Report abuse

You know the old football saying - "Football is a game played over 90minutes, and at the end the Germans win"
Fair result last night, better team won. I love how for all the fancy pants stuff of portugal, when it comes to the art of winning, the Germans have got it down to a T. Michael Ballack exemplifies this - he always seems to come up with the goals when it counts. Expect to see them in the final, where they *just* might squeeze out the Dutch again. (Holland being the perennial choker team)

Posted by: BLeF | June 20, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

First, Deutschland was efficeint; as good as they needed to be, very german.

For those complaining about a push, Booo!
How many times does a ball get served in the box and defenders are grabbing arms,shirts, checking oil. Its about time the advantage went to the attacker. The pks called earlier in the tournament and the goal allowed today should be the new precedent. The games is about scoring goals, not molesting attackers on every set piece in the attacking third.
How many games have you seen where a team has five corners and no goals from them? Most of them??? Attackers have to learn to shape and time thier runs, how to locate and deliver the ball with different surfaces. How might the game change, if the defenders learn to defend crosses without fouling?

More Goals???

Posted by: Just Saying | June 20, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

I felt like I was watching a US-Mexico match. Eleven stars on one side (well, nine in Portugal's case) against one team on the other. The team played organized, solid defense and relied on quick dangerous counters and well-designed set plays. The eleven (or nine) stars fall into a hole, start bickering, and each individual decides he alone will be the hero.

Moment of the match: Ronaldo goes down on what may or may not have been a foul, lays calmly on the ground looking around for at least three seconds, and then, when the referee looks over, starts writhing and screaming in "agony." Given that I can't stand Real Madrid, I hope they do spend 100 million on the guy.

yeah, I'm still mad this morning.

Posted by: troy | June 20, 2008 3:37 AM | Report abuse

Forgot to include the Conmebol standings:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/standings/index.html

Top 4 qualify and #5 plays off against Concacaf #4 for another berth.

Posted by: garbaggio | June 19, 2008 10:57 PM
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I know they're only 1/3 of the way through, but as it stands today, mighty Brazil would have to win a play-in vs. the fourth place CONCACAF team. No huge feat for the five-time-champion, but quite a bring-down for a team that often coasts to first or second in their region.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 20, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Forgot to include the Conmebol standings:

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/southamerica/standings/index.html

Top 4 qualify and #5 plays off against Concacaf #4 for another berth.

Posted by: garbaggio | June 19, 2008 10:57 PM
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I know they're only 1/3 of the way through, but as it stands today, mighty Brazil would have to win a play-in vs. the fourth place CONCACAF team. No huge feat for the five-time-champion, but quite a bring-down for a team that often coasts to first or second in their region.

Posted by: schmuckatelli | June 20, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Moment of the match: Ronaldo goes down on what may or may not have been a foul, lays calmly on the ground looking around for at least three seconds, and then, when the referee looks over, starts writhing and screaming in "agony." Given that I can't stand Real Madrid, I hope they do spend 100 million on the guy.
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After ref called the faul, the German guy stepped on Ronaldo's foot point blank. Ref didn't see it, it would've been a red card for sure. The replay showed why Ronaldo screamed.

Posted by: arlington4united | June 20, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

After ref called the faul, the German guy stepped on Ronaldo's foot point blank. Ref didn't see it, it would've been a red card for sure. The replay showed why Ronaldo screamed.

Posted by: arlington4united | June 20, 2008 7:46 AM


Yes but some people deserve to be stepped on. Christy Ronaldo is clearly one of those people, even his teammate wanted to do that to him at the WC.

Posted by: Matthai. | June 20, 2008 8:35 AM | Report abuse

I know they're only 1/3 of the way through, but as it stands today, mighty Brazil would have to win a play-in vs. the fourth place CONCACAF team. No huge feat for the five-time-champion, but quite a bring-down for a team that often coasts to first or second in their region.


Posted by: schmuckatelli | June 20, 2008 7:25 AM


It's way early and the bad news for everyone else is in spite of how bad Brazil is playing they're still tying people. I'd imagine the wins will come when they get a new coach.

But if for arguments sake they are #5 and play our #4 what if our #4 turned out to be Honduras or [shock] Mexico or the US? Would it still be a cakewalk?

Posted by: Matthai | June 20, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

But if for arguments sake they are #5 and play our #4 what if our #4 turned out to be Honduras or [shock] Mexico or the US? Would it still be a cakewalk?

Posted by: Matthai | June 20, 2008 8:40 AM
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I'm guessing yes. (but I get your point)

Posted by: troy | June 20, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Yes but some people deserve to be stepped on. Christy Ronaldo is clearly one of those people, even his teammate wanted to do that to him at the WC.
Posted by: Matthai. | June 20, 2008 8:35 AM
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Is that a Hitlar logic or simply can't stand the best skills he display?

Posted by: facts over hatred | June 20, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it's true. I'm Portuguese and don't like Ronaldo. Also true... he's a cry baby, cocky, and gives the Port Natn'l team a bad name (tearing off his captain's armband, stomping off the field without shakng hands. What's that??! Represent our country with class, would you. Stop disappointing us!!! Glad you could do sooo much for Man U but too bad you didn't show when it counted for YOUR country. Yeah, you love your hometown on that island called Madeira but what about showing the rest of us some respect. Oh, that's right, your Madeirains befor your Portuguese, typical.

Posted by: portmad | June 20, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so i'm overdoing it alittle. I'm still not over the loss. But that part that Ronaldo does hav to show some more class and show up to oUr games too is what I really feel. Never mind Man U Real... what about us. Concentrate on us.

Defense completely fell apart (if they even had one to start with)Ricardo... you stink. Port just proved that defence is just as important as forward and this team just doesn't have it. How could they even expect to play against the Big boys like Germany, Netherlands and Italy who know all about that!!!

Ronaldo, Ricardo...go home. I give up on this team (there are alot of my family that think the same as me). It's ok...your mother's still love you!!

Posted by: portmad | June 20, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

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