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Streamers on Probation

Are you listening, Toronto supporters?

In the wake of the Columbus incident and the on-going issue at BMO Field, here's MLS's ruling:

"MLS teams will communicate to their supporter groups MLS's existing policy - that streamers are not to be used to impact on-field competition or thrown toward a player, referee or stadium staff member. While the spontaneous use of streamers and confetti as an expression of fan enthusiasm will not be prohibited, the continued practice will be kept under review. Should issues continue regarding the use of streamers, MLS will have no option but to prohibit streamers."

You've been warned.....

Opinions?

By Steve Goff  |  June 6, 2008; 3:19 PM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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Comments

YAY! Give some fans an inch and they take a ruler. I hope they don't ruin it for the rest of us who would like to use streamers in a controlled and celebritory manor.

Posted by: Cole | June 6, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I completely agree.

Posted by: andrew | June 6, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Gotta go dump all that Streamer stock NOW!!

Posted by: Kosh | June 6, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I have already stated that they are silly but harmless.

What I don't get is why the shift from Garber publicly defending the "uniqueness" and "intimacy" of said silly and harmless action to "Hmmm, we'll get back to you on that one". he did a lot of posturing and with this move, while given the current backdrop of all of the career threatening injuries that have been sustained as the result of the previously stated fan behavior now seems sort of, well-- for lack of a better words-- incredibly "lame".

Posted by: yankiboy | June 6, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I like the way MLS is handling this. they are stepping in to stop the use of streamers that could interfer with play. i like that MLS is giving this warning instead of just going straight to a ban of streamers.

Posted by: adam | June 6, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Finally!!!!!!!!!

After goals/game celebration - acceptable
During the run of play - never

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | June 6, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

the toronto fans won't like it one bit, but I think it was the right call.

Posted by: downtown | June 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Only the first step. Can flags and drums be far behind?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Garber, you hoser. Take off, eh.

Posted by: GWN | June 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Thank God Garber came to his senses. That was a farce.

Posted by: Kev | June 6, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Good, needed to happen it was beyond annoying now.

Posted by: downthebyline | June 6, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Flags? When they pry it from my cold dead hand.

Posted by: BarraBoliviano | June 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

June 6, I'd imagine only if you start throwing them at the corner kickers--which in the case of drums is a very amusing image.

Posted by: Celebratory | June 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Wilbon got what he wanted.

Posted by: The Jim | June 6, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Only the first step. Can flags and drums be far behind?

Posted by: | June 6, 2008 3:33 PM

I don't know - do you throw your flags and drums at players while they take a corner? The league and fans equating streamers being hurled at players while they are in action with "an international atmosphere" was ridiculous.

Posted by: Kev | June 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Garber's a dillbag. What's up with his blog? Does he really wanna know?
I agree that throwing the streamers at people taking corner kicks is stupid. Celebration(Goooooooooooooooooool) is awesome and should always continue!
I saw video on you tube of a guy( I think in Argentina) having to take a PK outside of the 18 yard box just to keep himself from getting hit by bottles. I know we are no where near there but it's time for the dorks in Toronto to come up with something better.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 6, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

How much of this do you think is a result of Columbus fans throwing other things (bottles, ice, coins, etc.) at Ralston during the Revs game the other week?

Posted by: Geoff | June 6, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

i don't get it.
streamers are usually made of light weight, easily torn paper. so where's the danger?

Posted by: de | June 6, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Columbus just brought new attention to it by also throwing bottles, coins, ice and oh yeah...the N bomb out there too.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 6, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I go through metal detectors at NBA games - will MLS be coming up with a fruit detector to root out those ruffians who bring produce to the game? I can see MLS training their security forces with this John Cleese Python classic:

'Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless.'

Posted by: AM | June 6, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"Streamers on Probation"

I saw them at the 9:30 Club. Good band, a lot like The Connells.

Posted by: Joe Doc | June 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

good move and good decision.

Posted by: td | June 6, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"Streamers on Probation"

I saw them at the 9:30 Club. Good band, a lot like The Connells.

Posted by: Joe Doc | June 6, 2008 3:54 PM

did they sing "The Cup of Life"?

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

I've been out of the country -- what's the Columbus incident?

Posted by: RK | June 6, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

But Columbus is already on probation sir.

Posted by: Marmalard | June 6, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Steve I realize this is a blog and not actual reporting but what is with all the pointing at Toronto supporters when the commissioners statement clearly states this is entirely a result of the actions of Columbus fans on May 24th NOT Toronto fans during ANY of their actions at BMO Field. Your cut and paste job is worthy of FOX News!

Posted by: Chris | June 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Agree!!!! I like Toronto but when you are hitting a player with streamers that is interfering physically with the game. I am in total support of streamers for celebration.

Posted by: Elvis | June 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: TapocoL | June 6, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Oh, that incident -- thought this was something streamer-related.

Posted by: RK | June 6, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Chris Goff didn't say a thing about Toronto. It just locals talking trash on you lame Canandians. This blog is straight outta Washington Post isn't it?
Toronto still sucks, and I'm not talking about the standings.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Hate to say "I told you so," Garber. Why was this so difficult to foresee? Now Garber looks like quite a fool given his defense of the practice not even a month ago. Way to go, Don!

Posted by: BK | June 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Chris Goff didn't say a thing about Toronto. It just locals talking trash on you lame Canandians. This blog is straight outta Washington Post isn't it?
Toronto still sucks, and I'm not talking about the standings.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 6, 2008 4:38 PM
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Bro, You're obviously not feelin' Toronto.

I freakin love TO. Actually thought about emigrating there back in the mid-90's. If I have a change of heart I guess that there's no point in inviting you along, huh?


Posted by: yankiboy | June 6, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

TOTALLY agree with the ban on streamers thrown at players. Absolutely NOTHING should be thrown at any player any time. Its a short leap from streamers to batteries. That is why the Mexican fields have high fences around the field. We do NOT need to go there.

Posted by: Mike | June 6, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

"Streamers on Probation"

I saw them at the 9:30 Club. Good band, a lot like The Connells.

Posted by: Joe Doc | June 6, 2008 3:54 PM

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A Connells reference. Kudos to you, Sir. Who da thunk it on the US's best soccer blog. Maybe the best soccer blog in the world. The universe as we know it.

Always liked their use of the trumpet in their oh so ambitious pop songs.

Where's my Let's Active tape with Every Dog Has It's Day? Gotta look for that...

Posted by: yankiboy | June 6, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Can't believe Jozy's transfer hasn't gotten a mention on PTI. I bet this streamer issue will get mentioned again before Jozy.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | June 6, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure Toronto is a blast yankiboy, this is all probably just latent bitterness over the fact I don't have the means to head up to the Cycle Messenger World Championships in Toronto next week...
As a United fan I can't have any love for their soccer team or their supporters especially trying to cop the front of being the best fans in MLS. Look where their streamers got them when they came to RFK.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 6, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Garber: "While the spontaneous use of streamers and confetti as an expression of fan enthusiasm will not be prohibited, the continued practice will be kept under review."

Is this a typo? The sentence before it says streamers are not to be directed at people. This sentence, if it's not a typo and the "not" is truly supposed to be there, says streamers are banned. The connotation I get from the quote (assuming the "not" is wrong") is that streamers are OK if they fly during celebration, but not if they're directed at a person.

Posted by: Beaker | June 6, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

not be prohibited = allowed

So streamers during celebrations pre-game and post-goals are okay (although they will continue to monitor and review it)

Posted by: "translation" | June 6, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

i don't get it.
streamers are usually made of light weight, easily torn paper. so where's the danger?

Posted by: de | June 6, 2008 3:45 PM

As a fellow fan, here's how I see it. When you put on boots and take the pitch, you can have an effect on my team's play.

Otherwise keep your stinkin' pieces of paper off my players when they are trying to kick the ball.

Posted by: scott47a | June 6, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

so basically they are banning streamers.
Just come out and say so MLS, stop pussyfooting around. I hope this pleases the crybabies.

Posted by: Ossington Mental Youth | June 6, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Bravo!
Throwing (even streamers) at the players - bad, you might get ejected.

Throwing in the air to celebrate - probably okay, but no promises.

I had to explain this to a couple of NE yahoos at MLS Cup 07. Surprisingly, they seemed to have listened to me.

Posted by: Jester64 | June 6, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

i don't get it.
streamers are usually made of light weight, easily torn paper. so where's the danger?

Posted by: de | June 6, 2008 3:45 PM
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Among other things, people could exploit the situation by throwing batteries and other things, figuring that they would be less easily detected in the cloud of flying paper.

Posted by: tri-village | June 6, 2008 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Haha. Everyone wanting streamers banned has no streamers at their home stadium.

Posted by: Paul in Columbus | June 6, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

MLS is shooting themselves in the foot by alienating their most ardent supporters. Mr. Garber, who do you want to attend your matches, devoted and passionate fans who will spend $$$ on their team every week and bring atmosphere to your stadiums or soccer moms and kids who go to 1 or 2 matches a year and sit on their hands?

Posted by: Andrew | June 6, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Props to Yankiboy for the Let's Active reference. However, there are "words that don't 'Ring True'". Streamers being thrown at players to deliberately disrupt play is bogus. Don't diss the Commish just for having a change of heart. He's finally got "A Room With A View". I say "Flags for Everthing", but stow the streamers during play. I think it's about darn time. I thought it was bush league in Houston when they started to throw streamers at the opposing goalie. About time the MLS is calling out supporters to cut out this kind of nonsense.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 6, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey Paul in Columbus are you the guy they're looking to ban for life?

Posted by: Dadryan | June 6, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

so basically they are banning streamers.
Just come out and say so MLS, stop pussyfooting around. I hope this pleases the crybabies.

Posted by: Ossington Mental Youth | June 6, 2008 7:44 PM

Why don't you Toronto fans just come out and admit it. Ever seen Beckham or Deco have to push streamers aside to find the corner flag? NO. y

You haven't because the fans in Europe respect the game enough to realize that the players should only have to deal with the 11 players on the other team trying to disrupt their game and the away crowds making noise.

I dont see any sensible reason why people should be allowed to trow streamers towards the playing surface during active gameplay. Its stupid and the fans defending it are just like kids trying to eat candy for breakfast.

Yes its a slippery slope towards no streamers for the rest of the supporters groups, but Toronto refused to listen the the rest of the worlds complaining and now we get something taken away, and rightly so.

Posted by: BBFunnyMan | June 6, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

MLS is shooting themselves in the foot by alienating their most ardent supporters. Mr. Garber, who do you want to attend your matches, devoted and passionate fans who will spend $$$ on their team every week and bring atmosphere to your stadiums or soccer moms and kids who go to 1 or 2 matches a year and sit on their hands?

Posted by: Andrew | June 6, 2008 9:04 PM
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This sort of argument scores an autogol. Soccer moms and their kids are so much more numerous in the general population that even if they only come to an occasional game, they easily outnumber the "passionate fans" at any given game. Furthermore, if you're now averaging 18,000 fans per game, and you want to up that to, say, 22,000, you have to bring in people who are not currently coming out to the park. Almost by definition, this does not include "passionate fans."

Posted by: tri-village | June 7, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

"so basically they are banning streamers.
Just come out and say so MLS, stop pussyfooting around. I hope this pleases the crybabies."

No, basically they are banning the throwing of streamers at players while they're playing. Bring all the streamers you want, throw them around when something cool happens -- just keep your crap off the field. Not that hard to figure out.

Posted by: Jon | June 7, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

better late than never. throwing junk at players isn't great in any way.

@Posted by: Andrew | June 6, 2008 9:04 PM
they will take the soccer moms all day (just ask the Prem, that's what they are doing now) Soccer moms/dads have far more money and little jr and little miss always get thirsty and hungry and cold and too hot which means repeated trips to the concession stand and team shop.
Basically they spend a crapload more than the usually poorer 'passionate fan' ever does. Many 'passionate fans' find themselves being so passionate because they have little else going on in their lives. Just look at what happens to the 'passionate' fanbase when ticket prices go up (see Premier league) they stay away from the stadiums except for the biggest of matches.

Posted by: papa bear | June 8, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

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