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The Good, The Bad, The Coyote Ugly

THE GOOD

*DCU stretching its winning streak to four and its unbeaten streak to six with a rout of the Galaxy before 35,000+ at RFK.
*Steve Ralston's fantastic second goal during the Revs' win over Toronto.
*Emmanuel Ekpo's run from midfield and finish from distance to lift Columbus over Colorado.
*Joe Cannon making several excellent saves for his fifth shutout on the league's worst team.
*Luciano Emilio's nine goals the past six games.
*Edson Buddle's 10th goal in seven games.
*Jon Conway preserving the Red Bulls' tie with two great second-half saves.
*Ben Olsen making his season debut and receiving a lengthy ovation. He was also greeted by huge banners held up by the supporters' groups. "I can't explain how much it meant to me, and it makes me want to get better and give this organization and the fans something for sticking by me for a long time."
*Kevin Hartman's league-best sixth shutout and record 73rd career clean sheet. "I'd like to say that I had more of a role in it. I had two tough saves but most of the saves were just routine."
*Hunter Freeman's desperate goal-line clearance.
*Taylor Twellman returning from a seven-game absence because of an ankle injury. Earlier in the season, he missed seven games recovering from knee surgery.

THE BAD

*RSL rookie Tony Beltran's 89th-minute own goal.
*Colorado's fifth straight road loss (1-6 overall).
*Chicago's 333-minute scoreless streak.
*Brad Guzan misreading Dave van den Bergh's free kick for a goal.
*Dallas allowing two goals in the final eight minutes to lose a friendly with Chivas Guadalajara, 2-1. On the game-winner, Marco Fabian intercepted an errant pass from Anthony Wallace and raced around Dario Sala.
*The noon starting time amid oppressive conditions at RFK (the weather, not the stadium). "It's nuts," Ruud Gullit said.

THE COYOTE UGLY

*The West-leading Galaxy's 1-4-1 record against Eastern clubs.
*Western Conference teams going 0-3-2 against the East this past weekend.
*New York's terrible miscommunication and errant pass that allowed Chivas to score the equalizer just before halftime
*Marcelo Gallardo giving Landon Donovan a bloody nose.
*The Galaxy conceding an average of 2 goals per game after allowing four to DCU.

What else?

By Steve Goff  |  June 30, 2008; 9:19 AM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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Comments

Gallardo's bloodying-up of Donovan is partly offset by the two walking arm-in-arm after the game.

I wonder what the ratings were for this game?

Posted by: Juan-John | June 30, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Triple Dog Coyote Ugly:

Landy's new dreamsicle Nike boots

Posted by: Erick | June 30, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Also coyote ugly was Donovan's reaction and finger-shaking at the referee. And they just take it from him. What is he teaching all the kids watching on national television. Just who does he think he is? Someone needs to show Landon Primadonavan how bad that looks for US soccer.

Posted by: MezzSouthGol | June 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Excellent point by J-J above. Despite an occasionally chippy game, both DCU and the Gals were complete sportsmen afterward and patched up whatever ill will happened during the play. Great stuff.

Coyote Ugly: Afternoon soccer in the summer anywhere MLS currently plays should be outlawed as a crime against humanity and the game.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The Good: ESPN announcers during Euro 2008 final reminding their viewing audience that DC United "schooled" the Galaxy.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

To add onto the good, Goal differential is +9 during the win streak, and +10 over the 6 game unbeaten.

Posted by: Section 130 | June 30, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree with MezzSouthGol. The expression Primadonovan is perfect! I never realized quite realized what a prissy or a whiner he was, but I generally am routing for him (on the U.S. team), not against him. It seemed to me that both he and Beckham virtually disappeared in the second half.
Great day for soccer in D.C.

Posted by: Vamomof3 | June 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

*Marcelo Gallardo giving Landon Donovan a bloody nose.

Who said that was an ugly thing? Landy just got a cheaper face remodeling ;)

Posted by: Douglas | June 30, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Zach Wells having his best game of year.

The Bad: Santino Quaranta leaving the game with a thigh injury.

The Coyote Ugly: Jaime Moreno's tackle on David Beckham.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Donovan tried to get a piggy back ride from Gallardo and deserved whatever retaliation came his way. Seeing him get a bloody nose and a card was just as satisfying as the scoreboard - I am so tired of that punk coming into RFK and taunting the crowd. Maybe it should become a tradition for DCU fans to stick a Tampax in their nostril in tribute to Landon whenever LA is in town...

The huge Olsen banners made me proud to be a DCU fan - particularly when surrounded by people in Beckham jerseys who couldn't name a single other player on the field. Unfortunately, DC is playing so well right now I don't know if it is a good idea to mess with the chemistry by putting Olsen back in the starting lineup. Glad to see that he is OK though...

Posted by: eduardo | June 30, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

The Coyote Ugly

MLS if it doesn't at least fine Landon for his multiple F-Bombs on TV and his treatment of match officials. Even if some of the calls didn't go his way, his display on television was terrible for network television and unacceptable for children who were watching.

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | June 30, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Also coyote ugly was Donovan's reaction and finger-shaking at the referee. And they just take it from him. What is he teaching all the kids watching on national television. Just who does he think he is? Someone needs to show Landon Primadonavan how bad that looks for US soccer.

Posted by: MezzSouthGol | June 30, 2008 9:38 AM
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The ref showed Donovan a canary card. That is hardly "just tak[ing] it."

Posted by: tri-village | June 30, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Worrying about Landon's f-bombs while the DCU supporters were singing "F-Beckham" throughout the match, clearly audible on TV?

Landon bashing on the interweb is tiresome.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Good: The restaurants and bars that were kept hopping by the DCU-LA game and the ensuing Euro final. The word that catering to footie fans is good business is getting out. As I said in a previous thread, I hope the new SSS is in a place that already has, or is likely to develop, nearby places to hang out, even on days when there is nothing going on at the stadium itself.

Posted by: tri-village | June 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

What do you folks think about the upcoming USOC vs. the struggling Rochester Rhinos?

Posted by: RA CHA CHA | June 30, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

re: USOC

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Let the reserves play. Let's keep our starters fresh for games that means something.

Posted by: Ron | June 30, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

I was at the match, but did not DVR it...

Did the sex doll with Sharpie-colored five o'clock shadow and "BECKHAM 23" on the back made numerous appearances during the game. Was it visible on TV?

Posted by: Erick | June 30, 2008 10:15 AM | Report abuse

The "F-U Beckham" was a bit too far but whatever. Landon did have a pretty good reason to react as he did with Gallardo getting off clean. Gallardo continues to show his Argie roots and hardcore play. I actually like seeing controversy on the field like that more often cause just about any Argentinian Primera game has just as many hard fouls if not MORE. Nobody complains to the ref more than Mr. Beckham, Landon is just learning from him and thats not a good thing for the USMNT. I thought the game was an excellent show for MLS but noon games should be BANNED!

Posted by: Felix | June 30, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Good: DCU already up to 3rd, and leading MLS in scoring

Ugly: all of the own goals this week

Coyote Ugly: Energie NY's backpass for Razov's easy goal.

JkR, I couldn't hear any of that. Crowd chants sound like noise to me -- unless you are listening for it. ABC dropped the volume out on LD's tirades, too. I liked the feminine product that he had up his nose like a rubber hose, though.

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Disgusting, moronic, muppet Ruud Gullit doesn't like the start time vs a perfect national TV showcase of the most interesting clubs in MLS. No debate there - in fact I'd move it to the "Good" column.

Posted by: Kev | June 30, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

re: USOC

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Let the reserves play. Let's keep our starters fresh for games that means something.

Posted by: Ron | June 30, 2008 10:14 AM
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I disagree.

First of all, it was embarrassing to lose to Harrisburg last year. If we're going to fall on our face in the USOC, lets at least do it in the 4th round against an MLS team.

Second, winning the USOC Cup is our surest bet for participating in international competition next season. Our return to form of late aside, we're still a long way from the Supporter's Shield and the MLS Playoffs are never a sure thing, especially this year with our CCL commitments.

I don't think we need to (or should) throw our full starting lineup out there, but we need to field a serious (read: no more than 1/2 reserves) side.

Posted by: Matt in Silver Spring | June 30, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Erick, I saw it at least once (didn't read anything).

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Zach Wells having his best game of year.

The Bad: Santino Quaranta leaving the game with a thigh injury.

The Coyote Ugly: Jaime Moreno's tackle on David Beckham.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2008 9:48 AM

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The Moreno foul on Beckham early in the game was a case of retaliation and counter-retaliation.

Beckham thought he had been fouled and came in from behind with a really high kick across Moreno's chest that knocked Jaime down. This was on the left sideline away from Beckham's normal side of the field and the players' bodies may have screened the ref from seeing Beckham's high boot. No foul called but Jaime immediately got up and charged back in to submarine Beckham.

LA shouldn't complain as they got a decent freekick out of it but Donovan couldn't read Beckham's cross to the far post (on the ensuing kick).

Posted by: garbaggio | June 30, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

In light of the fact that the winner of USOC is guaranteed a spot in the CONCACAF Champions League (next fall 2009), I'd have to disagree.

It's now a big prize.

As it's the longest continuously run Cup in the United States, it's nice to see it be recognized.

I'd rather see United rest starters at Superliga. We need to see what bench players will be there for the Fall campaign.

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re: USOC

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Let the reserves play. Let's keep our starters fresh for games that means something.""

Posted by: delantero | June 30, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Landon Donovan receiving a bloody nose.

The Bad: Beckham escapes without receiving a bloody nose.

The Ugly: Carlos Ruiz not playing, therefore not eligible to receive a bloody nose.

(No, I'm not serious, just a little black humor folks)

Posted by: La Batalla | June 30, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

I thought we should have done a "We Want Rochester!" chant at the end of the game.

Not out of respect for Rochester but to taunt the Galaxy.

I'll be at the plex tomorrow night and hope we start close to a full team. DC doesn't play for 11 games after Tuesday (against Guadalajara in Super Liga) so the players who aren't banged up should be able to play after some rest and hydration.

Rochester should be considerably better than the lower division Harrisburg team that eliminate our mostly reserve team last summer in this competition.

Posted by: garbaggio | June 30, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

re: USOC

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Let the reserves play. Let's keep our starters fresh for games that means something.

Posted by: Ron | June 30, 2008 10:14 AM

Hmm - the Open Cup is a) a very interesting, historic Cup competition b) matching up two interesting clubs (in this scenario) c) which leads to another piece of hardware for the trophy cabinet if we win and d) entry in to international play for the winner.

I'd argue that it's far more important than a single MLS match - where more than half the league makes the playoffs.

And re: the "F U Beckham" stuff. Why all the animosity? Are we mad at him for bringing sell-outs to the league we support? And representing American soccer in a dignified fashion. So he gave a little gesture to the supporters sections after his goal - big deal, he is a competitor as well as a poster boy. He also gave the sections a little clap after giving Martinez his shirt to show his appreciation for the atmosphere created.

I'm all for jeering a player if he's being an ass, but Beckham is a likeable player, even when on the opposing team.

Posted by: Kev | June 30, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

@Erick

Yes the doll was visible on number of occasions and the camera had to quickly move away from otherwise beautiful shot of cheering fans. Its stupid and low class. Shame on those who brought it in.

Otherwise, a wonderful game. DCU guys were running well off the ball, creating more opportunities for themselves. Should have been 7:1 or more. I expected more from LA.

Posted by: Tolik | June 30, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

SuperLiga starts in 2 weeks - the website is still from last year.

Coyote Ugly

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | June 30, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

What about Beckham making a rude gesture to the ref after no call from the foul by Martinez? Thought that could go in Ugly

Posted by: Gianniculus Jones | June 30, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Why the Donovan-hating? The only problem I had with him was he was a chronic underperformer. But he's stepped up this season. So what if he drops a few f-bombs? That's the producer's fault for ISO'ing him.

Posted by: Bart | June 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Landycakes is a b"tch! Just goes to show if you get him out of his mindset, you can defeat him. I thought he should have gotten a red card for "f bombing" the refs like that. He really is a b*tch! I am disappointed that we need him so much on the NATS!

Posted by: Alan | June 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Have to agree that the FU Beckham was classless and poorly timed.

The supporters clubs do themselves an injustice when the slither that low . . .

I prefer the "HOSERS" banner that was shown to the Toronto fans or the positive player chants for Ben and Jaime, etc

""On top of old Smokey, all covered in cheese, We've got Dema, he'll break your knees . . .""

Re: Beckham ----an extra 15,000 + were at a game because of him. He's a good ambassador for the sport.

Plus, United was destroying him on the pitch! That should speak volumes.

Posted by: delantero | June 30, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

the funny as sh.t:

Becks bodyguards all over the field and one was right in front of the Barra all game long.

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

The Barra Brava and their ilk represent the Good and Coyote Ugly of soccer:

The Good is their enthusiasm.

The Coyote Ugly is their non-stop, classless vulgarity. I always pity the families who happen to buy tickets on that side of the stadium. Families at the SoccerPlex tomorrow beware!

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re:The "F-U Beckham" was a bit too far

Posted by: Joe Fan | June 30, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Felix, if you think Landy just learned that complaining/crying to the ref thing, you've missed MLS this whole century.

Beckham may have actually learned a thing or two from Donovan in this regard.

Posted by: Kim | June 30, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Worrying about Landon's f-bombs while the DCU supporters were singing "F-Beckham" throughout the match, clearly audible on TV?

Landon bashing on the interweb is tiresome.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 10:04 AM

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Amen. Add the notion that supporting your team with a 3-1 lead involves chanting obscenities at an opposing player to list of why I have removed myself from the supporter's group. Too bad the immaturity and classlessness of one is giving all the others a bad name.

Posted by: Happy at Home | June 30, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

My point exactly (re: supporter club comments!).

Posted by: Joe Fan | June 30, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Ugly is Donovan behavior MLS refs let him get away it a lot dissent. I'm sure ABC loved him dropping 3 F bombs in HD on Sunday.

Posted by: Ike | June 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Hey Goff, what do the DC United execs think (truly) about the behavior of Barra Brava et al. - and do they have the nads to do anything about it?

Posted by: Joe Fan | June 30, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Ugly is Donovan behavior MLS refs let him get away it a lot dissent.
Posted by: Ike

Is that you, Yoda?

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

You can't be serious, "supporter club," can you!? What do you see when you look in the mirror?

Posted by: Joe Fan | June 30, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

what a bunch of f@gs !!

kids in this country are killing having sex and doing drugs @ age 8 now a days and because i scream FU beckham i dont have class? this is soccer not f.cking golf people !

remember that !!

Posted by: supporter club | June 30, 2008 11:08 AM

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Yes, because some of us think the swearing was over the top that means we're not worried about drugs. Considering the funny smell emenating from the Barra cookout, that's pretty ironic. And some homophobia to complete the trifecta of ignorance.

Posted by: Happy at Home | June 30, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Slightly off topic, but Emilio's first goal is a GotW nominee, so fire away:

http://web.mlsnet.com/sights/goal_of_the_week/

Posted by: Section 130 | June 30, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Ben Olsen's quote: "I can't explain how much it meant to me, and it makes me want to get better and give this organization and the fans something for sticking by me for a long time."

That just shows what kind of guy he is, that he actually thinks he owes us something for "sticking by" him. The guy is the heart & soul of DCU, and anyone who wouldn't stick by him should be shot.

Posted by: jrnail23 | June 30, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

@supporter club

as much as i dont understand your comment about the kids i have to agree that this is Soccer ..... socccer fans are fanatics and absolutly hate the team playing against them specialy if its a great player like Beckham . We go all out at all times and all the FU chants are part of the game and the support .... it hasnt hurt any leagues or teams ore anybody as far as im concerned ..... now when you start being racist is discriminatory (crew) thats another subject.

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Ralston winning with 100%.

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

hey hey hey why are you all bashing the Barra now!! this supporter club could be and eagle or la norte !!!!

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

oh man..how sad all this is becoming - half the fun of a galaxy game is bashing lady-cakes aka Cupcake.

Do ya thing Becks has ever heard anything like that from fans before?? UMM HELLO the red card death threats - all the fans over there in Europe?? jeeez people - pull up your big girl panties and suck it up Cupcakes!

Posted by: bobf | June 30, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I watched the game on TV and didn't catch any of the language -- thank goodness, as all three of my kids were there with me.

It's disappointing to hear all of the ugliness toward Beckham. Resorting to cussing simply demonstrates a lack of imagination. Early in the game ABC played a clip of Beckham saying how great the DC fans were when he played his first game here. I doubt he feels the same way today.

All the same, RFK is not church. But I for one would be much obliged if everyone left the crude language in the stands and didn't bring it to Soccer Insider.

Posted by: Joe Doc | June 30, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

@135,
I appreciate fan support as much as anyone but i do not hate the opposing team or any of it's players, particularly the ones that do so much for our national team, our league, and our sport.

I think you are focusing on too narrow a view of how to support a team.

Respectfully submitted.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

hey hey hey why are you all bashing the Barra now!! this supporter club could be and eagle or la norte !!!!

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:19 AM

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How anyone who has been involved in the clubs can say that a very loud chant with the F word in it started anywhere other than the Barra is really funny.

The Barra can be a great thing, but sometimes their passion is overtaken by their ego and the misguided notion that junior high attempts at humor equals support for the team.

Posted by: Come on now | June 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I guess we're working our way back to the Roman Colosseum (Amphitheatrum Flavium).

Posted by: Big Bill | June 30, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Do ya thing Becks has ever heard anything like that from fans before?? UMM HELLO the red card death threats - all the fans over there in Europe?? jeeez people - pull up your big girl panties and suck it up Cupcakes!

Posted by: bobf | June 30, 2008 11:19 AM

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I don't think anyone is saying that it was bad because it hurt his feelings. It's just not very clever and shows a complete misunderstanding for what the word support means.

We were winning 3-1. Why were they more focused on swearing at him instead of cheering the total domination we were showing?

Posted by: Missing the point | June 30, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Felix. Gallardo got the yellow card, too. The only reason Landy got nailed was because Marcelo was throwing his arms up in frustration that he didn't hear the whistle for Primadonavan being on his back. Wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Posted by: MezzSouthGol | June 30, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Whomever came up with the David Beckham/England banner that read
"SHOULDN'T YOU BE IN AUSTRIA?"

Posted by: delantero | June 30, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

It probably didn't make it to tv - but at least one of the FU Beckham chants was in response to him making a "gesture" towards the supporters section

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

@JkR

its not about the narrow view of supportinh the team its the support that i personally give one game at a time. cursing in soccer stands have been and will continue to happen for eternity you have got to understand that this is never going to change.

all this post bashing the BB have never happened before !! This goes on Game in and game out. is it because of Beckham?

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I don't think anyone is saying that it was bad because it hurt his feelings. It's just not very clever and shows a complete misunderstanding for what the word support means.

We were winning 3-1. Why were they more focused on swearing at him instead of cheering the total domination we were showing?

Posted by: Missing the point | June 30, 2008 11:24 AM

Agreed - and I don't care about the F word and kids. Not a big deal. But chanting at a guy like that is unoriginal and makes our otherwise fantastic fans look like pent up, frustrated nerds. Show support and a sense of humor - save the ridicule for the many GROWN MEN wearing Beckham replica shirts.

Posted by: Kev | June 30, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Washingtonpost staff removing multiple posts in three, two, one...

Lets stop the supporters group pissing match. Round and round we go... Yes the cursing probably isn't necessary but its part of the game. If you're going to complain about the supporters groups cursing why not complain about Landycakes' foul mouth?

If you don't like the way a certain group supports the team join another or head to the quiet side. Everyone can support the team in their own way.

Posted by: Doze | June 30, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

>>>It's just not very clever >>>

Exactly!

What episode was it where Jerry stated "I'm offended as a comedian."??

Jerry Seinfeld.

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld. | June 30, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

The Good: Whomever came up with the David Beckham/England banner that read
"SHOULDN'T YOU BE IN AUSTRIA?"

Posted by: delantero | June 30, 2008 11:27 AM

Although I think that insinuates that England would somehow be in the final yesterday. Not likely!

Should have read, "Shouldn't you be in Germany?" - directed toward Landycakes ;-)

Posted by: Kev | June 30, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

THE LANGUAGE USED BY SOME OF YOU WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. KNOCK IT OFF IMMEDIATELY. I AM DELETING SOME OF THE COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

Posted by: Goff | June 30, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Really, this is what you people have to complain about? Remember what you deem is unclassy and vulgar is your own opinion and just like a certain body part, everyone has one.

We aren't there to be role models for anyone, unlike how the players on the field should be. It's amazing how one little word can get people here in a tizzy. Really? It's a harmless word, get over it! If you had to remove yourself from a supporters group because of it, you didn't probably didn't belong there in the first place.

The only thing I will agree with you on is that homophobia or any kind of bigotry (i.e. Red Bulls banner or the Columbus incident) have NO place anywhere and are not condoned by any supporters group.

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

It probably didn't make it to tv - but at least one of the FU Beckham chants was in response to him making a "gesture" towards the supporters section

Posted by: | June 30, 2008 11:27 AM

SO???

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

The "F-U Beckham" was lame. It also didn't make any sense. Does he ever taunt the fans? I haven't seen him taunt the fans. He doesn't even appear cocky on the field. He doesn't seem to be living off of his amazing past and his huge paycheck. He seems to be trying to raise the bar for the sport and his team. It seems like he is generally working hard on the field.

Hopefully Barra will get some more creative cheers in the future.

Posted by: Cole | June 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The Austria banner was hysterical. Too bad it was partially covered up. I had a hard time figuring out what it said for a few minutes.

Posted by: Brian | June 30, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

"Agreed - and I don't care about the F word and kids. Not a big deal."

Nice. Parenting is hard enough, and along comes Kev.

Though I do agree that a man wearing a Beckham shirt deserves a long, unfriendly stare.

Posted by: Joe Doc | June 30, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

The FU style chants are regular against most teams. However they are usually concealed as an off beat saying between "DC Uniteds" during 'clap-clap-clap' and don't have full participation because a number of people concentrate on the other cheer and ignore it. To make it the center piece cheer instead of the imbedded cheer should be saved for reaction to the truly awful and mostly Blanco and refs.

Posted by: bluemeanies | June 30, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

the 'f word' doesn't bother me except for when it's the homophobic one posted up there. that has no place in the stadium, supporters groups or not.

also - think how good we would be if we had made our first choice trade and gotten cannon from the galaxy!

Posted by: pat | June 30, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I'll be at the plex tomorrow night and hope we start close to a full team.

Posted by: garbaggio | June 30, 2008 10:32 AM
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Althopugh the Rhinos are not in United's class this year, I fully expect United to field 11 players at the start of the game. Fear not.

Question for offsides rule experts:

It seemed to me (and I had a great vantage point in the upper deck almost on line with the play) that Emilio was offsides on the fourth goal. He was beyond the final defender when the pass came to Fred, and I believe he stayed beyond the last defender, even as the play went deeper. If Emilio had let the ball go through ot Gallardo for the put in, El Muneco was clearly onsides. But, Emilio was offsides, unless there is some exception based on Fred being even deeper. (I might add he was as least as offsides as Donovan was on the goal that was waved off....)

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

After the match one of my friends commented that he really thought the fu beckham chant was too much. We agreed that really the issue is, as others have said, it's just not at all clever. You guys in the supporters groups are talented people. Surely you can come up with something original, insulting, and funny without just chanting vulgarities.

Posted by: Glenn | June 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

@fisch frsorry i didnt see the play i was too busy saying FU Beackham with the Barra

ill pay more attention next time

Posted by: old fart | June 30, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure the Barra doesn't have a set list of chants to do in a particular order. It's all random and spontaneous. If you go to the website you can see the FU chant isn't listed. Lame or not, it happens.

I take it the "We sing better than your wife" chant wasn't creative enough for you guys?

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I absolutely don't like Donovan. He is classic underacheiver. He kills the nobody and disappears when we need him (ex. WC 2006). He's not anywhere near our best player. If we didn't even have such a glaring lack of forwards, I wouldn't even want him starting for the USMNT. At LA, he is the recipient of beautiful passes by Beckham. Anybody could finish half of those set ups.
As for Beckham, I have nothing abgainst him. I am all for growing the sport in this counrty and he is doing this better than anybody has been able to. Thats what makes beating him so much better! Vamos United!

Posted by: moreno4prez | June 30, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

@ Ron
Have you checked the schedule for July?
United plays Rochester and if I'm not mistaken don't have another scheduled match until Chivas comes to town on the 12th.
Maybe I'm missing more matches I assume if they beat Rochester?
United isn't doing anything in July except playing in Super Liga and making up the rained out Houston game. Open Cup winner gets a Champs League berth...What "more' important games are you talking about?
I can see this thread getting shut down for all the naughty language.
Soccer in North America isn't futball elsewhere, and just because it's filled with violent half-wits all over the world does not make it cool to act like one @RFK. It may not be "f-in' golf but it is just soccer. You know that are plenty of people out there that think soccer is a rich kid wimps sport right? stop pretending your so tuff. It's corny.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Hey, what a shock. United wins, 4-1, has 16 points from their last 6, so in order to find something to moan about, it's time to bash the supporters' clubs.

And yet, Donovan is the moaning little 5-year-old in the room.

It'll be great when United rolls off about three more wins in a row in league (when league play starts up again), and people can resort to complaining about Jaime Moreno not smiling enough.

Posted by: Eddie C | June 30, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I take it the "We sing better than your wife" chant wasn't creative enough for you guys?

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 11:47 AM


THAT'S GOLD, JERRY!

Posted by: Bania | June 30, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

hey hey hey why are you all bashing the Barra now!! this supporter club could be and eagle or la norte !!!!

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Well, if they weren't chanting "F-U Beckham", then it's clearly advantage La Norte.

OK, he's getting paid a lot, and it also fed his ego about playing for Hollywood -- but Becks deserves mega-props for coming here when no one else of international stature was doing it.

Really, this is just a fascistic mob mentality, with the crowd relishing the chance to shout obscenities at a (more) accomplished public figure. If he did flip off the Barra, they deserved it.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

@ 135 | June 30, 2008 11:28 AM

I don't care about cursing in the stands until someone here started whining about Landon cursing the officials.

I fully appreciate the support from the loud side, but find it completely disingenuous when people start calling the players classless for responding in kind.

And I also resent the notion that the only way to support the team is the BB or SE way. It's a fun way, it adds a lot, but it's not the only way; and it's not only about the groups, as great as they are.

But the Landon bashing is easily the most tiresome blogging trend of the last few years.

/rant off.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

and the homeless workless guy is back

come on dadryan get a job please!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: bum | June 30, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

My goodness, they are just words!

Compared to what is sometimes chanted in Europe the FU Beckham could almost be seen as complimentary!

As a football fan I want (nay, demand!) that the players on my team are 1000% commitment, and the will to win the game no matter what! There is nothing more disaffecting than players not living and breathing the game and result like the paying fans!

Beckham, for one, could simply cruise through MLS if he wanted to, but it clearly bothers him (as it does Donovan) how the team is playing and what the result is. As a fan, I would appreciate that A LOT!

When Liverpool play I always look to see the attitude of the players and I want to see a "none shall pass" mentality. That's why Javier mascherano and Martin Skrtel both achieved almost cult status among Red fans so quickly. Gerrard and Carragher also are 100% there and if they let a few expletives pass their lips so what?

Posted by: BerlinIsRed | June 30, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

@Fisch Fry

Your observation about Emilio being in an offside position when Gallardo made the initial pass is correct. But when Fred subsequently crossed the ball, he passed BACK to Emilio (and/or Gallardo). They were onside because they were both behind the ball at that point. I'm guessing we have Insider posters who are referees who could chime in on this, but I think I've got this correct.

Posted by: DCUInWheaton | June 30, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

@ Ron
Have you checked the schedule for July?
United plays Rochester and if I'm not mistaken don't have another scheduled match until Chivas comes to town on the 12th.
Maybe I'm missing more matches I assume if they beat Rochester?

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 11:48 AM
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After thrashing the Rhinos, DCU advances to another USOC game at the Soccerplex next Tuesday. Still, it's a week off. They ought to be able to find guys ready to play.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

...He was beyond the final defender when the pass came to Fred, and I believe he stayed beyond the last defender, even as the play went deeper. If Emilio had let the ball go through ot Gallardo for the put in, El Muneco was clearly onsides. But, Emilio was offsides, unless there is some exception based on Fred being even deeper.

Law 11 includes:

A player is in an offside [no "s"] position if:

*he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent

Luci and Gallardo were behind Fred and the ball at the time of the pass.

Posted by: Mr. Krys | June 30, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

OH wow a public figure to me he is just another soccer player , he is getting pais to play soccer .... if brat pitt played soccer for any team that played against dc united then i would chant FU Pitt .. its not a matter of yelling profanities to a public figure as i said he is just another soccer player nothing else..

Posted by: 135 | June 30, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

@Fisch Fry

Your observation about Emilio being in an offside position when Gallardo made the initial pass is correct. But when Fred subsequently crossed the ball, he passed BACK to Emilio (and/or Gallardo). They were onside because they were both behind the ball at that point. I'm guessing we have Insider posters who are referees who could chime in on this, but I think I've got this correct.

Posted by: DCUInWheaton | June 30, 2008 11:57 AM

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That was the substance of my question. Is there on offsides because Fred passed from a deeper position? Is it enough if Fred's pass started from a deeper position, or must it also travel backwards? Or, did the refs blow the call?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

@Fisch Fry

Your observation about Emilio being in an offside position when Gallardo made the initial pass is correct. But when Fred subsequently crossed the ball, he passed BACK to Emilio (and/or Gallardo). They were onside because they were both behind the ball at that point. I'm guessing we have Insider posters who are referees who could chime in on this, but I think I've got this correct.

Posted by: DCUInWheaton | June 30, 2008 11:57 AM

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That was the substance of my question. Is there no offsides because Fred passed from a deeper position? Is it enough if Fred's pass started from a deeper position, or must it also travel backwards? Or, did the refs blow the call?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

"The noon starting time amid oppressive conditions at RFK (the weather, not the stadium). It's nuts" Ruud Gullit said
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Gullit and Donovan and Ruiz should be great friends because they are all Dudes getting nice paychecks who love to whine.

Gullit loves crying about things here. The fact that MLS doesn't take a break for the FIFA international calender (yeah, I know that is lame), the weather, the game times, ya know what Rudi--that is what you signed on for. You signed a deal, so "just deal". Did you research the MLS at all before taking that AEG money??? I mean to someone other than just your boy, Becks. "Opressive"?!?! Enough already. I can just imagine it now "Alexis, Cobi--WHat is this 'draft' thing that you speak of?? What!?!? Picking footballers how? I will not be exhausting too much energy with that--that is ridulous!!! We would never think of such a thing in Europe. I have other more pressing things to attend to (like picking a nice new "crib", preferabbly in Hollywood)"....

Posted by: yankiboy | June 30, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Law 11 includes:

A player is in an offside [no "s"] position if:

*he is nearer to his opponents' goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent

Luci and Gallardo were behind Fred and the ball at the time of the pass.

Posted by: Mr. Krys | June 30, 2008 11:58 AM

Thanks, Mr. Krys

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

@Dadryan -

Just about any match is more important than the Who Cares Open Cup. I mean, US Open Cup.

The Superliga matches are marginally more important, but DCU, even though playing well in MLS is not going to do beans in Superliga becuase we do not have the roster depth to compete seriously in tournaments like that. No MLS team does. So Superliga and tournaments like that just don't matter much.

Because primarily of the salary cap structure, MLS matches are about all that matters to an MLS team, including DC United.

Posted by: Ron | June 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

That was the substance of my question. Is there no offsides because Fred passed from a deeper position? Is it enough if Fred's pass started from a deeper position, or must it also travel backwards? Or, did the refs blow the call?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | June 30, 2008 12:01 PM

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Emilio needed only to be behind the ball at the instant Fred made his pass.

Posted by: DCUInWheaton | June 30, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

who cares what we chant, its what we chant, you dont like it, go to a nats game, there noone cheers, chants or anything, you should feel safe in your sheltered world.

we all have alot of cheers with f, s, b, any of those words in it, so y get mad now?
fu ref doesnt piss you off, y becks?
we all did that cause of his gesture.

so get over yourself on your high pedestal, and learn about passionate supporters about a sport we all love for a team we would all die for.

Posted by: bbseln | June 30, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

If the GREAT Steven Gerrard curses then I would expect that everyone can. Did you see that guy in Euor 2008?? Fantastic!!!

Gallardo is playing better but is a punk. I would expect he gets a fine and suspension from the league office.

Donovan should too and should have been red carded for what he said directly to the 4th official. I have complained to the MLS office about that before. There is no need for direct cursing at the refs.

And if our supporters clubs had not used the FU chants I would only have expected us to win 2-1. The Supporters groups are the reasons for the victories.

Posted by: Wow | June 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Ron:

roster depth isn't crucial for Superliga right now, it's not an extra tournament, where you are playing two plus games a week, since the league gives us the month off, we don't need to worry about that.

CCL is a different story, of course.

Posted by: northzax | June 30, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Ron I personally am pretty excited about the new Champs League, regardless of how well any MLS teams do in the thing. Same reason I love watching the EUFA champions league.
I love the extracurricular play. Actually kind of sad I won't be in town to catch any of DCU's Super Liga matches in person.

YO BUM! I thought the tournament was over dog, time to pack up the ol' rucksack and stick out the thumb and get ghost bro brah!!!

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Ugly: Beckham's line drive kick into Gonzalo's huevos

Coyote Ugly: ABC's tight shot of the trainer hosing him down with a water bottle... so unnecessary...

Posted by: AM | June 30, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm not killing anyone, I'm just sharing my personal 2cents (probably worth even less thn that):

The doll thing was over the top. Way over the top. I'm not putting anyone down. It was creative, I just think that it was way too much--not just because of Becks or the time of day. Something about the doll creeps me out (Even when it isn't being threatened with violation like in the Chicago White Sox locker room a couple months ago). I am sure that no harm was intended and that it was supposed to be funny but it wasn't working for me.

The F-U Beckham chants--I wasn't feeling them either. That was over the top. I know that this is "socccer/futbol/football/calcio/whatever" and there is a lot of passion and that I could have been at the O's-Nat's game yesterday and heard similiar thing but I still don't feel that makes it right. That's how I feel. It's outside of my presonal code of conduct. The fact that kids are exposed to so much vile stuff alreay or that a woman a few rows back might be dropping bombs doesn't make me feel like that gives me a pass to curse in front of kids and ladies.
Some of you guys who curse are so of my favorite fellow fans, so I'm not calling anyone "bad" or putting anyone "down". I'm just saying that I don't plan on doing it and that I personally, it really upsets me, I can't stand it. It is a very strong difference of opinion.

Yesterday, my 3 year old was with me for her first full team match (she's been to reserve and USL matches) and the thought did go through my head "Wow. The first time that she use some of those words, I'm gonna have to 'check' (correct) her and explain to her that I'm not havin' it". I don't expose her to that sort of language but at sporting events (not just "soccer"), it is very prevalent and that I find disturbing. Kinda like Gullit and the "oppressive conditions" of RFK minus the nice paycheck that he's clockin'.

Posted by: yankiboy | June 30, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

hey bbsein:

I am happy you are able to find an outlet for your extensive vocabulary, it's just a bit boring to the rest of us sometimes. This was a nationally televised game, at our place, against a high profile opponent, and "FU" is the best you could come up with? we blow out a team, on national tv, and the most dedicated supporters in the league don't make much TV time because of such asinine chanting. Here's a tip: you don't need to yell obscenities at someone you are already humiliating on national television. I am glad you enjoy it, though.

Posted by: northzax | June 30, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

The Good: Martinez and Burch tearing apart Becks and Klien's side of the field. What terrible defending.

The Bad: DC United's numerous missed 1 v 1 opportunities.

The Coyote Ugly: Beckham's early cross that was blocked by Martinez's uhm... lower abdomen.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The Good: The respect David Beckham showed Jaime Moreno in the 23rd minute.

Posted by: TCompton | June 30, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

hey bbsein:

I am happy you are able to find an outlet for your extensive vocabulary, it's just a bit boring to the rest of us sometimes. This was a nationally televised game, at our place, against a high profile opponent, and "FU" is the best you could come up with? we blow out a team, on national tv, and the most dedicated supporters in the league don't make much TV time because of such asinine chanting. Here's a tip: you don't need to yell obscenities at someone you are already humiliating on national television. I am glad you enjoy it, though.

Posted by: northzax | June 30, 2008 12:25 PM
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You know what cracks me up about you guys are that nobody comments on the other 89 minutes of singing we do. One 30 second chant is getting everyone hot around the collar. Really people, you act like that's all we did for the whole game.

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

You know, as a longtime (i.e., pre-Beckham) Galaxy fan, I just want to say:

THE EXCELLENT: A nationally-televised soccer match in the USA that could hold its own with most European club matches -- a good amount of scoring (even though not enough of it was by the Galaxy for my taste, I can appreciate Emilio's efforts), tough play, a little controversy, and a passionate, sizable crowd adding atmosphere.

Thank goodness for MLS.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | June 30, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what George Carlin might have added to this conversation.

asitis

Posted by: asitis | June 30, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Eh, I can't understand any of the chanting/singing, anyway.

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what George Carlin might have added to this conversation.

Posted by: asitis | June 30, 2008 12:44 PM
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Six more chants.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 30, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I wonder what George Carlin might have added to this conversation.

asitis

Posted by: asitis | June 30, 2008 12:44 PM
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:) Thank you!

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

The Good: DC United destroyed a rival and most hated foe on national TV.

The Bad: Loved the passion and the environment created by the supporters groups. Did not care for the "F-U Beckham" chants (and yes they were loud and clear on TV) and the doll (which they tried to keep out of the camera's view, which robbed the TV viewing masses of the chance to really soak in the crowds and atmosphere).

The Coyote Ugly: Not only did we (the fans) display ourselves unfavorably on national TV of all places, but now that foul behavior and language has spilled over into some of the posts I have read in this thread. We are better than that.

My view? As much as I hate the Galaxy (and lord knows that I hate them) I have no problems with Donovan and Beckham or any of their players (beyond their wearing those colors).

In Beck's case I cannot begin to understand the animosity sent his way, he has been nothing short of awesome for our young league. Plus it's not like he's here on Holiday, dogging it or anything. The guy brings it (well except yesterday), plays hurt and is an honest and devoted ambassador for what we call "soccer". I can't place all the hate and I cannot understand what he did to earn it. Within the context of the game a bit of tauting and teasing is nice. Insults are a totally different ball of wax. If we can't be nice and say thank you to a guy that has done great wonders for our league then perhaps it's best not to say anything at all.

Same goes for Landon. My beef with him is his lack of consistent performances with the Nats, but that's just because I know he can do the business - and that's just a beef and in no way means I have any hate for the guy. I like Donovan. He sweats, bleeds and wears our national team colors with pride. Also say what you want about him, but he also believes in our league. So he's lit us up for a few goals and has taunted us...like I said taunting and teasing is part of the deal. Venomous insults and personal attacks are crossing the line, and I think we may have crossed the line on this one.

VAMOS UNITED!!

Posted by: Kosh | June 30, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

UEFA not EUFA, my bad.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

UEFA not EUFA, my bad.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 1:10 PM
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I keep hearing "F you Efa!" Who's Efa?

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 30, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

The Good: Beckham's cross to LD was really nice -- and luckily just offsides. Wells really got stuck on his line on that one, and I think it was a wake-up call.

Posted by: RK | June 30, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Kosh,

At least for me, I have nothing against Beckham as a person. As a player, he wears the wrong uniform. Period.

The animosity comes mainly from the media. He has done a lot for our league, it's just that no matter what match you watch on TV, his name is brought up. They over-hype him and the Galaxy over the actual sport itself.

Posted by: kasdc | June 30, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Donovan had it coming. It's a lot harder for that elbow to find your nose if you're not riding the guy piggyback.

Also Coyote UGLY -- QUITTING. If Donovan was going to quit playing at 55 minutes, why didn't he raise his had to get subbed out and go sit at the end of the bench with a juice box?

For all you who hate the Donovan bashing, did you watch him y'day? The disallowed goal on which he was off -- he never got back on after United's first clearance. If he had made a minimal effort to get on, it would have been a perfect through ball and might have changed the complexion of the game.

In the final 15 minutes he so evidently quit it was disgraceful. Nice effort from a "professional."

Posted by: OWNTF | June 30, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Disagree completely OWNTF. Respectfully.

Nice sentiments, Kosh.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Dadryan hey if you enjoy them more power to ya and all that, but it was extracurricular games that have contributed to our MLS playoff-undoing more than once. So we end up overextending our (MLS-imposed due to salary cap) shallow roster in competitions we have virtually either no chance of winning ( see SL, CCL) or who cares if we do win (see USOC), only to end up banged up and burned out for the MLS playoffs from which we are ignominiously dispatched by the likes of the Chicago Fire.

Until such time as we have the minimal resources necessary to compete meaningfully in these Cups, such competitions are dead to me.

Posted by: Ron | June 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if anyone who was at the game was of the opinion that Donovan didn't quit on the match. As for the emphasis on hating "the colors" but not the players, what is this, the Crips and Bloods? I like the game, I appreciate other teams that come in a play hard and skillfully, I don't hate them, I enjoy them. I think a player dishonors the game by quitting in the middle of it. Regardless what uniform he's wearing. I think the reason for the Donovan bashing is the perception that his mentality does not match his evident superior technical ability.

Posted by: OWNTF | June 30, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

If Gallardo's bloodying of Donovan's nose is Coyote Ugly, then you need to add Donovan's kick at Gallardo's right knee while riding him piggyback. It doesn't justify, but it sure does explain.

Posted by: S. Gadfly | June 30, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I'll post my thoughts rather than confirming others having said them: to heck with Donovan. He was all over Gallardo's back. Whiny baby.

Posted by: ERic | June 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I coulda sworn I clicked on "Washington Insider" not "Big Soccer".....

We won...we owned LAG. Bennie's before game tribute was awesome, Bennie on the feild was even better. 35,000 fans was fantastic! The loud soud putting on a great show was inspiring. Standing behind the "Lion" banner gave me chills and a lump in my throat. Kudos to BB! The experience would not be the same w/o BB, LN, and SE! I didnt like the F-Y Beckham chant, my daughter kinda gave me a look, but I chalk it up to part of the game and moved on. It was over after 30 seconds..(insert joke here)..that's less than 1% of time of the game. And to top it off, my daughter got her McT jersey signed after the game! Best day June for sure!

Posted by: boda united | June 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: OWNTF | June 30, 2008 1:59 PM

I was at the game, watched it again on DVR in Hi Def, and I don't think Donovan quit on the match.

Posted by: JkR | June 30, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@ SportzNut21 | June 30, 2008 12:43 PM

Good points. I hope that any "casual fan" tuning in for Beckham was turned on by the game and will attend local matches. Turn on, tune in, drop by.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | June 30, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I hear ya Ron, DC's playoff performance was dreadful last year and I do hope we don't peak to early to make a strong run. I honestly don't believe we are out of the SS race either at this point.
I'm gonna back the team regardless of the standings, playoffs, etc.
MLS will hopefully get better in the long run and maybe we'll see a bit more Roster depth in time, but until then I would still rather see United play some Mexican, Costa Rican, or Jamaican teams than watch them play the Red Bulls three times!!!
It'll be nice when we Philly starts playing and we add that to the mix!

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I mean it will be nice when Philly starts playing and we can add that rivalry to the mix.

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Ron:

I've got to disagree about one point of your initial post about non-league competitions.

You said that no MLS team has the depth to compete for the Superliga title. I can't help but note that last year's Superliga saw 3 of the 4 MLS teams get to the semifinal, and LA (the worst MLS team in the tournament) taking Pachuca to penalties in the final. That's the narrowest possible defeat in a final (it actually goes down as an offical draw, since penalties are actually a simple tiebreaker). I think you're really reaching to say no MLS team has any hope of winning it with current rosters.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | June 30, 2008 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I swear I saw Red Bulls beat Chivas in a not so friendly last week.
I will assume that wasn't the Goats A team.
I don't think United have the worst odds in Super Liga this year.
Who doesn't need a million bucks?
Who says United can't win the Open Cup, Super Liga, SS, and the MLS Cup?
United is a pretty dangerous and fun team to watch right now.
Go ahead and try to argue that.
Wish we had Joe Cannon. If we had his clean sheets we'd be at the top of the table right now.
June was a great month though wasn't it?

Posted by: Dadryan | June 30, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey bbsein,

I have to say your passion is admirable but "for a team we would all die for" is a bit much. I've been a DC UTD fan since their first home game in '96 and though my wife calls me a "psycho fan" I would never entertain the thought of sacrificing my life for the club.

I actually can't think of a situation in which such a dramatic event would be called upon. Perhaps if NY Red Bull fans form a militia and decide to invade RFK by force and steal everything in United's trophy case? If that happened I might just jump in the back of my friend's Toyota pick-up truck with an AK and roll up on them fools Taliban style.

Anyhow the FU Beckham chants and the FU Ref (this one has annoyed me in the past) chants lacked class, imagination and restraint. I have no problem with the "word" in the right company but I damn sure don't want my kids to hear it at a DC UTD game being song by hundreds of over zealous supporters. Passionate dedication to the team is no excuse. Neither is being piss drunk.

Posted by: Bsharah | June 30, 2008 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Donovan didn't quit. It was hot and we ran them into the ground with our possession game. That was Soehn's strategy going into the second half, apparently it worked. Their entire team was exhausted by the 60th minute. Beckhma looked like he had a pound of cement in each cleat.

Noontime soccer in the DC summer is borderline suicidal.

Posted by: uranderson | July 1, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

As for the good. KC did get it's 3rd sellout of the season. Granted, it's just over a 10K capacity, but they're doing something right there.

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Posted by: alice | July 1, 2008 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Ekpo's goal was tons better than the clip.

For some reason, mls.net cut the part where he headed the ball over the defender at his back and beat him to the ball, thus creating all the open space he ran into for 50 yards.

Then the goal.

As usual, MLS short changes the Crew (Noonan deal anyone).

Posted by: Jason | July 2, 2008 12:55 AM | Report abuse

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