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Gallardo, Peralta Possible Surgery

This just in.....

Both Marcelo Gallardo and Gonzalo Peralta will see a specialist in Munich to determine whether they will need surgery for sports hernia injuries. The Argentine duo was scheduled to fly to Germany today. A prognosis is not expected until Thursday or Friday. If surgery is necessary, the players would probably be sidelined three weeks.

Without Gallardo the last four games, United has had to rely on Rod Dyachenko and forward Jaime Moreno in the playmaking role. Without Peralta, United's backline has struggled against Mexican attacks in SuperLiga.

Thoughts?

By Steve Goff  |  July 16, 2008; 10:57 AM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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Gallardo: $1.9 million/year
Dyachenko: $35k/year

...and it shows.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

This isn't good. While Gallardo is a huge loss, our defense seems to have alot less depth, so losing Peralta for a while could be catastrophic. Last nights backline definately didn't work, so I wonder if a backline of

Namoff McT Martinez Burch

would work? Burch in the middle just didn't seem to work at all. Martinez would seem to add some stability to the middle, while Burch seems to fit in well at wing back.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I hope for the best. Without Gallardo, I would like to see DCU try Fred as AM. NO MORE DYACHENKO....please.

Posted by: Sucks! | July 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If Burch is our best option to replace Peralta can we just end our season now? Three weeks of Wells and Burch in back would be painful to watch.

I think we can live without Gallardo and we have already shown that we can win without him.

Olsen...maybe not. Him and Gros were our key injury losses this season.

Posted by: Southeasterner | July 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

To somewhat quote Bender:

"WE'RE BONED!"

Posted by: Kosh | July 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Going, going, gone. That's United's season that just knocked out of the ball park. Glad the front office did all that work to reinforce the team for this year. It's really showed well in the international tournaments. I can't be any more sarcastic. Seriously, Burch and McTavish look like Beavis and Butt-head playing defense. Just awful. What a truly bad team this is, worse than 2001. I bed Armani the Capuchin monkey could a better job with player personnel than Payne and Kasper.

Posted by: Grandma Makes Millions | July 16, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Geez, they aren't out for the year! Maybe three weeks, if they even need surgery. Relax.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it aggravating that DC united continues to stock up on attacking players and midfielders only to continually play them out of position? We've been short on depth at defense for 2 seasons now and our only solution is to try to convert some midfielders to play on the backline. The result last night and the fact we haven't recorded a regular season shutout proves this is a weakness. Why can't we get some actual defenders to start in the back? We all know Wells needs all the help he can get right now.

Posted by: Brian | July 16, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Sucks! and think Fred might be the best option for the playmaker role. For defense, why not pair Martinez with McTavish as center backs, and have Namoff and Burch as the outside backs? Martinez played there earlier this season and did fine (i.e., wasn't the source of our early defensive woes). Seems fairly straightforward to me, given the personnel we have available.

Posted by: entropy | July 16, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Well, that's certainly not the news I had hoped to hear this morning.

Goff,
During the game, it looked as though Quaranta may have reinjured himself. Do you know what his status is?

Posted by: TCompton | July 16, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Those last several years in France, Gallardo was hurt more often than not. I told you so: signing him to the DP slot was pretty risky. We'll see if he heals up okay after the surgery.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | July 16, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Maybe this line-up vs Houston:

-----------Wells--------------
Namoff-McT------Martinez-Burch
-----------Simms--------------
Fred/Quaranta-------------Thompson/Cordeiro
---------Quaranta/Fred--------
-------Doe--------Emilio------

Give Jaime a much needed break.

I think Santino or Fred can be real productive as an attacking midfielder.

Posted by: United fury | July 16, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Namoff had the same surgery last season if I recall correctly and was back and playing inside of a month.

If the same can occur with both Peralta and Gallardo, you obviously do it now.

While this seems pretty bad at the moment, getting it taken care of now will benefit this team later.

Posted by: A Rickey | July 16, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Too many normal starters in that lineup, Fury.

Play the fringe players. Time to Focus on the CCL, MLS and USOC. We need to score 4 goals (I'm assuming we let in at least 1, fair assumption) to advance and have the other result go our way. Eff it.

Posted by: Colm | July 16, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

We might as well just put 10 attackers out there and hope we outscore the other team.

Posted by: Sean | July 16, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

United Fury

Thats a very good line up..

From your keyboard to Soehn's screen.

DC knows just what they need to do to advance on Saturday. I hope they roll our the strongest line up to do it and this appears to be it.

Posted by: Down goes H-town | July 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

At most United has a chance at the USOC but even that is looking bad. The European season starts in August. At least I have something to look forward to.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Namoff had the same surgery last season if I recall correctly and was back and playing inside of a month.

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Yeah, that's why Goff said that they'd be sidelined for three weeks if surgery was required...

Posted by: DE | July 16, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

We might as well just put 10 attackers out there and hope we outscore the other team.

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Not a bad idea for Saturday.

We needs us 3 gols.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I second entropy. Martinez as left back was a luxury to take advantage of his offensive skills, he should switch with Burch with Peralta out. And putting Rod in the playmaker role doesn't make him a playmaker. (Anybody else think of the Inanimate Carbon Rod from the Simpsons whenever Dyachenko subs in?) I'd be happy with Jaime and Fred in the middle.

Posted by: danj | July 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

We still have a long season to go. and we wont be the only team going through these injury problems, relax everyone.
we can still go sign a good player or 2 we have the money and the spots. mls cup here we come

Posted by: Chris D | July 16, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Dyachenko played AWFUL. Worse than anyone out there. Worse than Wells, perhaps worse than Niell?

Posted by: Baltimorian | July 16, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm on the Fred-in-the-middle bandwagon. This is where he shined in Australia and I think it's too much to ask of Jamie to play there. If Santino is back, that'll help repopulate our flanks. I love how Martinez gets into the attack when he plays wide, but I think we need him to shore up the middle with Burch on the left.

Posted by: Postmaster | July 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Having them take care of the surgery now would be a good mood considering our next league match after the All Star break is August 2nd...in 2 and a half weeks.

Posted by: BigWave | July 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Goff,
During the game, it looked as though Quaranta may have reinjured himself. Do you know what his status is?

Posted by: TCompton | July 16, 2008 11:31 AM

I saw that too, Tino pulled up short around midfield and took a couple skipping steps that did not look good.

Posted by: Tweaked | July 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

oh noes!

while certainly not good, at least DCU can try to shore up some problems in the transfer market - even if temporary fixes to get us through the year.

Posted by: downtown | July 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Ack! I meant to say "good thing" not "good mood":)

Posted by: BigWave | July 16, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

In all seriousness, MLS has got to up the cap. The very American concept of a salary cap is a good thing. Amoung its benefits are fairness, parity and the promotion of proper management of resources. But having a SMALL cap for a MAJOR league is quite the oxymoron, or better yet is just plain stupid. If this were some obscure league, like, oh I dunno...Major Unicycle Hockey League then maybe a small cap won't matter much because you would probably be getting the best in the world for pennies (no offense to Unicycle Hockey fans). But in soccer? I don't care how you view MLS they are competing with the entire world for talent. So a $2.7 million dollar cap is going to buy you just that: a $2.7 million dollar team.

Now that that would not be such a bad thing (so much) if you only had these $2.7 million teams playing each other. But NO. MLS has the rocks to dare to think that a $2.7 million team can compete with other teams that don't have caps in MULTIPLE competitions. Why? Because we want to prove to the rest of the world that $2.7 million teams are just as good (if not better) than teams that do not operate under a cap system, and oh yeah our guys have hustle and athleticism and heart and...

Don't get me wrong I love the international exposure, and while some have questionable value (Superliga) as compared to others (CCL) the benefits of playing the best should not be understated. These competitions help increase the profile of our young league and help develop better players. But asking a $2.7 million dollar team to play up to 50 games in multiple competitions is reall asking too much in my opinion.

Look all this fan is asking for is some quality depth. MLS, give us the means to make our teams deeper, to have more quality, to make the opposing coaches worry about what's sitting on our benches for a change. UP THE FREAKIN CAP, MLS!!

I'm not asking for a BPL-sized budget here, just enough to get our sides to have 15 to 17 solid players on a 28-man squad fighting for starting spots and good enough to cover for their fallen teammates. I think we can add that kind of depth with another $1 to $2 million on the cap.

Knowing that Dyachenko is the answer to an injured Gallardo is laughable, even for MLS.

Posted by: Kosh | July 16, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Perspective needed. Team is 12-10-1 this year in all competitions (3-1 CCC, 7-7-1 MLS, 2-0 USOC, 0-2 SL).Only truly meaningful game in next few weeks is Aug 12 (USOC Semi). If team gets healthy by end August or early September, they can still make a run for playoffs and focus on CCL. With CCL creation, Superliga is superfluous. A bad game or 2 in a meaningless competition while missing starters for injury does not make the team 2001 bad.

Slightly related, I wish MLS would consolidate Superliga and PanPacific Cup to be the 2nd tier tourney for the 5 and 6 teams (out of 16). They could then have 3 groups of 3 (In Japan, Australia, US) with group winner and 1 Wildcard going to Hawaii for semis and finals. 2 MLS, 2 Mex, 2 J League, 1 Aus, 1 Korea, 1 other.

Posted by: soyinocente | July 16, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

In my house he is called Dyastinko!

Posted by: DC U Fan | July 16, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

this german guy has the sports hernia surgery market on lock down. he needs to start opening up franchises so we can save on airfare....

While Gallardo is out, the only two options at that position should be Moreno and Fred. I would probably prefer Moreno in that role. Maybe we can start playing Quaranta in the 'second striker' role, supporting Emilio, and keep Fred and Thompson on the wings.

Defense? Yeah, I got nothing. We're probably screwed.

Posted by: stairs | July 16, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

my house also

Posted by: Chris D | July 16, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

One good thing about Lalas and the Glaxatives is that they are trying to become the superclub of MLS. At some point, MLS will have to raise the cap to accommodate them.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Defense? Yeah, I got nothing. We're probably screwed.
Posted by: stairs | July 16, 2008 12:06 PM
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Anyone know how "out-of-place" Mike Zaher would look if he played on Saturday?

Posted by: emanon | July 16, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Both Peralta and Gallardo have been out of action a couple of weeks. Why are they just now flying out to see the specialist???

Posted by: Who's running this show? | July 16, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Moreno looks great in the playmaker role.

However, our D looks like a bunch of clowns. Even Namoff is getting done. They need to move Martinez to center back..play McTavish in front of him with Burch on the left.

Or...screw it and just play a back three with McTavish, Martinez and Namoff. Seems that we are pissing goals with a back four anyway so we might as well piss goals with a back three and hope to outscore the opponents....

I like Wells...I think he's a solid keeper but he's not a fit for a team that plays this style. Perkins and Rimando were successful because they were athletic and agressive...and could cover up defensive breakdowns easier by coming off their line quicker.

DC sends everyone into the attack...sometimes almost comically and needs a quick keeper.

Wells is a good fit for a team that stays organized, plays more defensive. He's totally out of sorts having to play this agressive.

Posted by: Matt Y | July 16, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

There is not problem with the players there
is coaching inefficient.

Posted by: OrlandoGator | July 16, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

This team is just not capable of winning anything. Defense wins championships and we are weak down the middle of the team.

Lets face it we have problems at Keeper,Central Defense, Wing Midfield and a second forward. Plus we have zero depth.

I am convinced this team is not as good as last year's addition depite all the changes and money spent.

Posted by: Nick from Big Soccer | July 16, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I agree Soehn should try Martinez at central back. Perhaps with McTavish 'cos Burch was HORRIBLE last night. Of course putting Martinez back there assumes he can restrain himself from going forward AT ALL. All in all, we are in trouble.

Posted by: Bart | July 16, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

What about getting Pat Carrol in the game saturday and see what he can do with some minutes? I haven't seen any of his games but I heard he may be servicable.

With that in mind, here's my two cents:

--Wells--
Namoff, Carroll, MCT, Matrinez
--Simms--
Quaranta RW (Mediate if Q is hurt), Mediate/Thompson/Doe
--Fred AM--
Emilio, Moreno

Posted by: moreno4prez | July 16, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

ok i am also on the fred bandwagon. PUT HIM IN THE CENTER. how long will it take soehn to realize that he creates excellent chances when he drifts inward. he did that everygame when gallardo is out.
Another this is our defense, we really need to go out onto the market and get some quality defensive help. swap martinez in the center for the time being. also martinez could be dangerous on the wing. id not be opposed to that.

wells
namoff-mctavish-martinez-burch
simms
thompson-cordiero/whoever
FRED
tino/doe-luci

Posted by: fisty | July 16, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

So they'll be back for the USOC? Good.

Posted by: RK | July 16, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

First of all the "guy" in Munich is Dr Ulrike Muschaweck - a woman. When she does surgery she really does two kinds: the "Minimal Repair" method of repairing a hernia is done under a local anaesthetic, meaning the patient is awake during the short procedure and can walk out of the operating room. These are the players who are back on the field in three weeks. She also does a more invasive technique for more serious injuries and the player is out a lot longer

Posted by: congguy | July 16, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Fred needs space to be most effective. Just because he does good work when he drifts into the middle doesn't mean that he should be a CM.

He'd get wacked a ton...doesn't have a good enough first touch...and his fitness and speed wouldn't be quite as useful.

Just my two cents....

Posted by: Matt Y | July 16, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, congguy, I was about to say that the German dude is a chick.

Also, I thought Namoff had his procedure several years ago. He told me about it at my kids' soccer practice that he was conducting. And we haven't practiced in 2 years (kids off to college, and such).

Unless he had another one?

Posted by: JkR | July 16, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

doesn't this team seem to have an inordinate number of groin and hernia issues? Over the years this seems to be the number 1 injury problem. I wonder what causes that to be the case. Training staff? facilities? just bad luck?

Dyachenko should never be allowed on the field again. He is worse than useless. If necessary we should play with 10 instead.

Posted by: Glenn | July 16, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I think either Moreno or Santino should play the second striker cause even though doe got the goal he doesnt pass the pass well and always seems to run into the defense

Posted by: CH | July 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko is pretty ineffective. There was a time a couple of years ago when I thought he would be a good back up for Gomez based on his possession skills, but he has regressed. He gives the ball up too many times, he is slow, and he fouls a ton. Last night, he was a detriment to our team because kept giving the ball away. It was very frustrating. I'd rather have seen Quaranta come in for his position and Kirk instead of Dyachenko. Hopefully, he is playing his way to Niell status.

Posted by: moreno4prez | July 16, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It looked like Santino pulled up again. Things get better and better.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a problem with Fred as AM, per se, but I would just like to point out that Jaime got the assist on our second goal and was involved in the first one, as well.

I agree that we should put out the scrubs Saturday - it's not like anyone is going to be buying tickets for this match, anyway.

Posted by: ff | July 16, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think that Sven took the Mexico job because he'll spend more time in the US than in Mexico?

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I've been reading some knocks on Burch. Burch isn't at all a CB. Who can really blame him for the defensive lapses. Play the guy at left midfield.

Posted by: Dave | July 16, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Fire the conditioning coach. Does our team even stretch? I'd like to see someone add up how many games players have lost in the last few seasons w/random muscle pulls and tears.

Posted by: Dema | July 16, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

1) for all of those who say let's just try and outscore the other team, that's what we've been doing. We're second in MLS in goals scored, and second in goals allowed. The Galaxians are first in both categories. They have an ever lamer goalie than we do.

2) I think Quaranta had an injury caused by excess tatoo ink leaking into his quads (can't see those tatoos, but they must be there...no room anywhere else for new ones.)

Posted by: macheath | July 16, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It looked like Santino pulled up again. Things get better and better.

Posted by: | July 16, 2008 1:17 PM

I saw that too. We really need him in there.

Posted by: Dave | July 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

A couple things...

Santino did pull up for a bit, but I thought he got back in the swing of things pretty quickly. I'd rest him Sat. Bring him in as a late substitute on Tuesday for condition and make sure he fully heals.

Namoff is OK for MLS, but he was clearly outclassed against Chivas and Atlante. Plus, he makes some truly horrible decisions in his positioning and moving the ball forward.

And as to Saturday night, I'd vote for wholesale replacement and resting folks where possible. Soehn seems constitutionally incapable of effectively subbing folks during the match and too-often risks further wear and tear on our players that are showing bumps & bruises. Our chances of getting a 3 goal margin against Dynamo are very slim. In the long-term, I'd rather give some of the reserves the opportunity to play against Dynamo on Saturday night and husband our key guys for Tuesday--when it now counts.

Oh, Fred's crosses at the end last night were not good. Are we sure he isn't playing injured? The oomph was gone on his crosses and he took an awful long time setting up for a couple.

Posted by: Joe | July 16, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

this german guy has the sports hernia surgery market on lock down. he needs to start opening up franchises so we can save on airfare....

While Gallardo is out, the only two options at that position should be Moreno and Fred. I would probably prefer Moreno in that role. Maybe we can start playing Quaranta in the 'second striker' role, supporting Emilio, and keep Fred and Thompson on the wings.

Defense? Yeah, I got nothing. We're probably screwed.

Posted by: stairs | July 16, 2008 12:06 PM

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Excellent comment, Stairs.....spot on....

Posted by: Benny Smith | July 16, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't believe the sports hernia is due to lack of fitness or training or stretching.

Posted by: JkR | July 16, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

man, i called this in the Update post you made on the 14th:

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could't Gallardo have been sent to that doctor in Germany and be back on the field by now? I remember Namoff a bunch of other people playing like 2 weeks after his groin surgery there.

Posted by: pat | July 14, 2008 1:54 PM
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this stinks. they should have sent them to germany two weeks ago when they sat out the US Open Cup, then they'd be ready to come back before we get back to MLS games.

Posted by: pat | July 16, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

They couldn't find a specialist in the U.S.? C'mon, that's bogus

Posted by: Eugene | July 16, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

The German doctor is the best in the world. That's where you go for sports hernia injuries, no matter where you are from.

Posted by: Goff | July 16, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Eugene,

The leading sports hernia specialists in the world are in Germany.

Posted by: B.A. | July 16, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the defense, we should all remember that we had one of the best in the league last year, then FO started "tweaking" to make it better. Martinez, McT, and Namoff have been basically solid. Peralta sometimes very loose. Last night EVERYONE looked tired, listless and there was no intensity. Our crosses were HORRIBLE. Hope we get it together before league play resumes, otherwise this season will end early. How much is Gallardo costing per game played???

Posted by: Mike | July 16, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

the season is over. play the reserves and start trading all of our top guys for future better top guys.

Posted by: mizage | July 16, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Sign a defender and put Fred in the AM role. That was what he play in the A-League.

Rod is just not good enough - yet. He gets lost in the midfield so easily. He might be a good wing??? so just swap him and Fred.

where is vanney when you need him...HAHAHA

Posted by: bobf | July 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Eugene, if she's good enough for Alan Shearer and Michael Owen, I think she's good enough for our boys. Or were you concerned about the dollar to Euro exchange rate?

Posted by: Karen | July 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell the Skins about this lady. When Shawn Springs went down with a sports hernia a few years back it basically dragged out all season and he barely saw the field.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 16, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Put Fred in the Middle. Put Jaime and Emilio up front, and bring Doe on for Jaime at the hour mark. I have no answer for our defensive thinness. We may have to go with the Galaxy approach of trying to outscore opponents until we get Paralta back.

Posted by: Ron | July 16, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Without Gallardo we do not have a creative midfield engine capable of playing at the level required to compete with your Atlantes and Chivases of the world. We've got a pretty darn solid starting 11, and that's about it. When you take away our #10 and replace him with what passes for a decent MLS substitute, we're never going to be able to hang with the Mexican teams. Raise the damn cap so these absences aren't so earth shattering!!

Posted by: Mike | July 16, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Someone needs to tell the Skins about this lady. When Shawn Springs went down with a sports hernia a few years back it basically dragged out all season and he barely saw the field.

Posted by: | July 16, 2008 3:05 PM

NFL guys try to gut it out and not get the surgery right away (McNabb comes to mind). I guess they don't want to lose any of their shorter season. Think the best thing for sports hernias is to get them cleared up via surgery ASAP.

Posted by: Kev | July 16, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

United is in need of a savior, someone to capture the imagination of the fans and lift the team to glory. With Ben Olsen virtually done and an ageing Jaime Moreno, it seems to be an end of an era. I must say I do still love the character of this team with Fred, Luciano and now the emergence of Gonzalo, but still something is missing. We need an artist, someone with attitude, maybe even a chip on his shoulder.. someone with something to prove, a desperado... Man we are really missing Olsen

Posted by: Jack B. Johnson | July 16, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Sucks about Gallardo and Peralta, but people need to have some perspective. This isn't the end of the season. Many other teams in MLS have had injuries to some of their stars this year and have kept pace. United will be no different.

I'm also wondering why so many people are now convinced that Burch is not an option at center back. Obviously he's not our top option, but the Burch/McTavish combination played adequately against Chivas and Chicago. If Soehn thinks that Martinez on the left and Burch in the middle leaves us with the best lineup available, then I have a tendency to trust him. Burch made mistakes last night, but he has made mistakes at left back before too. If every player was permanently removed after one poor game at that position, then Emilio would be riding our bench right now.

My lineup for Saturday against Houston:
--------Thorpe--------
Kirk-Carroll-Murphy-Zaher
Thompson-Barlow-Dyachenko-Cordeiro
----Doe---Quaranta if healthy-----

My lineup for next Tuesday against Houston:
-------Wells------
Namoff-McTavish-Burch-Martinez
Quaranta-Simms-Moreno-Fred
----Doe------Emilio----

Posted by: DCUMD | July 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko is no Gallardo, or even Moreno, but he is not the worthless cipher so many posters say he is. He was not the worst player on the pitch last night. Not even close. Had his final shot (he took two) not been saved we would be praising him. He is one of the better passers on the squad (better than Fred, IMO) and his ball control is superb. He needs to make quicker decisions and stop the unnecessary fouls (the one I remember from Tuesday night was a "professional" foul to foil a possible breakaway). I know it's tempting to pick a scapegoat or two - Dyachenko and Wells, for example - and thereby imply that but for them the squad would be doing well. But the problems go much deeper than that.

Posted by: Hedbal | July 16, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Well, well well. where are all the Peralta haters now? I have always thought peralta was a quality center back during the whole season.

If Peralta is out, we MUST switch Martinez to center back. Honestly, I prefer Martinez at center back as opposed to left back, not to mention that Burch as a center back is a joke.

---------------Wells-------------
Namoff--MacTavish--Martinez--Burch
---------------Simms-------------
Thompson-------------------Quaranta
-------------Dyachenko------------
-------Moreno---------------------
-------------------Emilio----------

*waits for the dyachenko haters to belittle me*

Posted by: GoUnited | July 16, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

missed the game Tuesday, but I thought I read that we went with a three man back - is that right? If it is, I think we were doing fine with four in the back, even when Peralta was out hurt. Don' get me wrong, I don't think McT and Burch in the middle is a long term solution, but I think they can make do in MLS games til Peralta comes back (or we clone Ryan Nelsen). Weren't they the middle two in part of that last winning streak?

Gallardo - it's a drag, but most of what folks are saying above about either Moreno or Fred at A-mid makes sense to me. Not ideal, but we'll be ok.

Have healthy folks and good trades by the end of the summer. If we're still flailing, then it might be time to stress.

Posted by: e | July 16, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

As for the meaningless game with Houston:
-----------Thorpe-------------
Carrol--Zaher--MacTavish--Burch
------------Simms---------------
Thompso----Cordeiro--------Kirk-
-------Dyachenko-----------------
-----------------Doe-------------

Posted by: GoUnited | July 16, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

""they should have sent them to germany two weeks ago when they sat out the US Open Cup, then they'd be ready to come back before we get back to MLS games.

Posted by: pat | July 16, 2008 2:06 PM ""

Remind me not to go to your doctor, as rushing off to surgery with every presumed groin strain that turns out to be a hernia is way off . .

Posted by: delantero | July 16, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Isn't that the point, delantero? If they had gone 2 weeks ago, one would think that they would've been able to determine at that point the severity of the injury rather than just sitting back the past 2 weeks with a wait and see approach. Maybe a trip to Germany didn't seem necessary at that point, but this whole situation just reeks of wasted time.

Posted by: Nick | July 16, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

SG - Any truth that DCU is signing Joe Vide, ex-UVA/Red Bull/Earthquake?

Posted by: Oliver | July 16, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

GoUnited- You're benching Fred in both games?

e- United started the game with 4 in the back, then after giving up a goal in the 15th minute they moved McTavish up next to Simms. But I think they moved him back again after tying the game, and then played with a 3-man back for most of the second half after pulling Burch for Dyachenko.

Posted by: DCUMD | July 16, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else still steamed that we wasted a first round draft pick to get Dyachenko back from Toronto (I believe that's who took him in the expansion draft)? Then again, with the way DC drafts, our chosen first rounder probably would've gone overseas or been a bust.

Posted by: FHS | July 16, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

The Peralta lovers are suffering from dementia.

Do you not remember his slow feet and his whiff leading to the Galaxy goal? Or the fact that we have still let in 26 goals in MLS with him on the pitch?

Posted by: delantero | July 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Not steamed at all. Draft picks aren't usually ready to play, and despite the grouching on this board, I think Dyachenko is a useful squad / reserve player.

Posted by: JkR | July 16, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this line-up vs Houston:

-----------Wells--------------
Namoff-McT------Martinez-Burch
-----------Simms--------------
Fred/Quaranta-------------Thompson/Cordeiro
---------Quaranta/Fred--------
-------Doe--------Emilio------

Give Jaime a much needed break.

I think Santino or Fred can be real productive as an attacking midfielder.

Posted by: United fury | July 16, 2008 11:33 AM

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Couldn't agree more. Great way to manage the players.

Posted by: Good Stuff! | July 16, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

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