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Matchnight: US Open Cup Quarterfinals

Well, here we go. Tonight, two MLS rivals face off in the US Open Cup quarterfinals at the Maryland SoccerPlex in Boyds at 7:30.

Check in at USOpenCup.Com for previews on the other match-ups going on tonight:

Crystal Palace USA (USL2) vs. New England Revolution
Charleston Battery (USL1) vs. FC Dallas
Kansas City Wizards vs Seattle Sounders (USL1)

You can listen in to the DCU game tonight on WFED (1050 AM), English and WACA (1540 AM), Spanish.

As usual, this is the place for pregame, in-game and postgame thoughts (on any of the games).

UPDATE #1 -- Ben Olsen Out 4-8 Weeks

Out here in Germantown Boyds, and I've learned Olsen's surgery went well, with the recovery expected to be 4-8 weeks. There's a month of +/- there (between 4 weeks and 8 weeks), so we'll see where Olsen's recovery falls.

I will give you the lineups when I get the lineups...hopefully soon but maybe not till about an hour before kickoff. Until then, feel free to speculate on who starts and who sits.

UPDATE #2 - Starting Lineup

UNITED: Wells; Namoff (right), McTavish, Burch, Martinez (left); P. Carroll (right), Simms (DCM), Dyachenko (ACM), Fred (ACM), Cordeiro (left); Emilio; SUBS: Thorpe; Peralta, Zaher; Murphy, Thompson; Doe, Moreno.

CHICAGO: Busch; Prideaux, Conde, Soumare, Woolard; Rolfe, Banner, Pause, Thorrington, King; Barrett. SUBS Noble; Brown, Segares; Blanco, Gutierrez, Mapp; Carr

Official release on Olsen's surgery from the team after the jump...

Washington, D.C. -- D.C. United announced today midfielder Ben Olsen underwent surgery on Monday. Dr. Lew Schon in Baltimore performed the arthroscopic surgery, which looked at lesions on the talus and medial malleolus of Olsen's left ankle. Dr. Schon, who also performed the veteran midfielder's ankle surgeries during the off-season, placed two screws in the medial malleolus to treat a stress reaction there. Olsen is expected to take four to eight weeks to recover.

"We are confident that the procedure Ben underwent yesterday will relieve the pain that he has been experiencing during the past several months," said United General Manager Dave Kasper. "This has been a difficult few months for Ben, but we know that he will fight through this and get back on the field for the final stretch of our season."

Olsen played for the first time this season in the 4-1 beating of the LA Galaxy on June 29, after undergoing bilateral ankle surgery last November. The 31-year old had perhaps the finest season of his career in 2007, despite having to adjust to a position he hadn't regularly played in nearly eight years. The 10-year veteran responded with a career-best seven goals to go along with seven helpers. He tallied his first career hat trick against New York in a 4-2 D.C. win on June 10, earning both Player of the Week and Goal of the Week honors. He earned a second Player of the Week honor for his two-goal performance in United's 4-0 thrashing of FC Dallas on September 1. His three game-winning goals were second most on the team.

By Paul Tenorio  |  July 8, 2008; 3:03 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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Comments

Bummer that there is no TV coverage.

Vamos United!

Posted by: KR in DC | July 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Thanks. Take plenty of lucks with you.

Posted by: td | July 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Paul you're doing a fine job sir!

VAMOS UNITED!!

Posted by: strago | July 8, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm on my way out there now. I'll post the lineup and a Benny Olsen update as soon as I arrive.


By Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008; 3:03 PM ET

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Whaddaya mean - "as soon as I arrive"?!

What about our live I-270 traffic updates?

Posted by: garbaggio | July 8, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

lol @ likve I-270 traffic updates.

Posted by: Bart | July 8, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

here is your live 270 traffic update: it sucks!

Posted by: juanma | July 8, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

What about our live I-270 traffic updates?

Posted by: garbaggio | July 8, 2008 3:52 PM
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Traffic is backed up in the same places that it was yesterday, and every workday before that. It will be backed up in the same places tomorrow as well. Whether you're getting to I-270 from the inner loop or the outer loop, you're screwed. When you finally exit for the soccerplex, traffic will be backed up.

Doo, doo, doo, lookin out my back door.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 8, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Pack your car with DC United fans and use the HOV lanes. You won't bypass the heavy traffic (especially since the HOV restriction is lifted at 6:30), but at least you'll have company while you endure the backups.

Posted by: ho | July 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

4-8 weeks, +/- a month? So he's available tonight?

;)

Posted by: mcn107 | July 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Helpers? Is that you Laughlin?

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

4-8 weeks, +/- a month? So he's available tonight?

;)

Posted by: mcn107 | July 8, 2008 5:13 PM
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Fixed that for you mcn ;)

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of traffic, were the streets in the immediate vicinity of the 'Plex able to handle last week's crowd of about 3,000? Is a similar crowd expected tonight? The reason I ask is that I understand that there are plans to double the capacity of the joint to about 7,000 over the next year, primarily in order to accommodate the new and improved, WPS-compatible version of the Freedom. If the transportation infrastructure can't handle it, why bother?

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The stadium and nearby streets had no trouble handling last weeks crowd.

FYI - Tickets were available on site as of 5:20pm for todays game.

Posted by: The_Whale | July 8, 2008 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Doctor Lotion?

Posted by: Eric in Baltimore | July 8, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm kinda a tard, could someone post that link to the USLLive site.
You know the one with the live feeds? Is the Baltimore/New England game gonna be streaming as well?

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Dadryan: The USOC link in Tenorio's second graf up above will give you all the Internet audio/video that is available for any of tonight's games.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

usl.playonlive.com -- and no, only the Sounders is going to be streamed.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

oops. disregard previous link.

usl.playonsports.tv for USLlive.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Starting lineup is up:

Wells; Namoff (right), McTavish, Burch, Martinez (left); P. Carroll (left), Simms (DCM), Dyachenko (ACM), Fred (ACM), Cordeiro (left); Emilio

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks found it.
And inspite of what it says about the venue for the Sounders/Wiz the game is at Qwest field, not Starfire in Tukwila.
INtereseted to see if the Emerald city Supporters show for this event.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm...Is Peralta being given an "extended rest" or is this lineup an indication that Soehn's wants Burch's left foot out there over Gonzalo? I guess we'll have to wait until Saturday to know for sure.

Posted by: Nick | July 8, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Critical! What is the Chicago lineup?!?


Thanks for the efforts, Paul, great stuff...

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Is this a 4-5-1 or a christmas tree (4-3-2-1)? (or more of a 4-3-3)?

Posted by: Tom | July 8, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Or the dreaded youth formation?

xxx
xxxxx x
xx (Strange Kid)
(Cluster ball)

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

eh, looked better in the preview....

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Revs already up 1-0 on Crystal Palace...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

If you go to the DCUnited site you can click on "line up" and up comes the Match Tracker where you will see Blanco sitting on the Bench...
I hope the United fans make him feel all warm and cuddly cozy sitting there.
Vamos United.
Busch in goal works against us, but we saw what Emilio can do about that...
Thanks for the coverage Paul!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

Full lineups for DC and Chicago up now -- including subs...

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Paul, it may be wise not to treat us so well. We can get a bit demanding when we're late for our nap and have a dry mouth...

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

FYI there is a link to a video feed on the FC Dallas site. NOt working on my Mac right now who needs it anyway?

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

NE Revs 1-1 CP Baltimore, 23rd minute

Limarzi's pregame is on WFED.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

http://www.usopencup.com/imgs/home/revsinct.jpg

Reeeeeeeally big crowd in New London, Conn. for the Revs...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Why no Gallardo? Blanco is on the bench for Chicago.

Posted by: Hey! | July 8, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Gallardo has a groin strain

Posted by: Goose | July 8, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Why no Gallardo? Blanco is on the bench for Chicago.
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The injury situation was covered in a previous thread, as well as in the preview in this morning's Post.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

FYI there is a link to a video feed on the FC Dallas site. NOt working on my Mac right now who needs it anyway?

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 7:20 PM
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That game kicks off at 8:30 p.m. Eastern. The link probably will be activated at about that time.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Limarzi's stream has been solid as a rock so far...

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Gallardo picked up a bit of a knock at some point (Galaxy game? Training last week?) and I think they are trying to rest him for Superliga and 2nd half of the season anyway.

Posted by: the cheat | July 8, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Reeeeeeeally big crowd in New London, Conn. for the Revs...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 7:29 PM
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Is anyone familiar with that venue? I wonder whether seats on the same side as the press box fill up first.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Half: NE Revolution 1-1 CP Baltimore

I know I predicted a 3-1 Revs win, but I'd get a kick out of a Crystal Palace Baltimore win...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Goal Chicago... DCU 0-1 Fire, 36th minute

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Limarzi not being kind to Wells on the goal, or a similar follow up at 40 min.

He's also primarily implicating the defenders, however....

Posted by: JkR | July 8, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

DC United 0-1 Chicago Fire, halftime

NE Revolution 1-1 CP Baltimore, 60th minute

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

come on DC, turn this around...

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

A couple subs for D.C.:

Craig Thompson for Ryan Cordeiro and Francis Doe for Pat Carroll.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

The USOC is a four-sub affair, isn't it?

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

yes, 4 subs...

Posted by: strago | July 8, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Hey DC another bust? Better turn around and win this or you will be oh well

Posted by: td | July 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

With regard to the affair up in CT, are they looking at going the full 120 (i.e., no golden goals or anything like that)?

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Looks like NE-CPB are headed for extra time...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

62nd minute - Moreno in for Dyachenko...

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | July 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Jaime is in for Dyachenko

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Moreno in for Dyachenko.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 8:50 PM | Report abuse

OT but this is how it should look
MLS STANDINGS - FULL TABLE

1. New England - 33
2. Columbus - 27
3. DC UNITED - 22
4. Toronto - 21
5. Los Angeles - 21
6. Chivas - 21
7. Chicago- 21
8. Houston - 20
9. Salt Lake - 20
10. New York - 20
11. Colorado - 19
12. Dallas - 18
13. Kansas City - 17
14. San Jose - 12

Posted by: arlington4united | July 8, 2008 8:52 PM | Report abuse

I HATE THE fire!!! VAAAAMMMOOOOOOOOSSSSSS UNITED!!!

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

NE Revolution 1-1 CP Baltimore -- extra time coming

FC Dallas 0-0 Charleston Battery, 16th minute

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Report abuse

GOAL DC UNITED!! DCU 1-1 Chicago

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

YES!!!!

Posted by: stairs | July 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

is the match over? did we lose?

Posted by: kevinx | July 8, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Francis Doe! 1-1!

Thompson blocked the clearance, it went to Moreno, who crossed for Doe

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

sweeeeeeeet!

Posted by: kevinx | July 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

GooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL!!! Doe. Doe hates the fire too. Hell, even Mother Theresa probably hated/hates the fire.

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Moreno's shot off the post. DCU looking strong

Posted by: Nick | July 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Grandpa Doe!

Revs and Palace are going into the second overtime still tied 1-1

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

uhg! Moreno off the post...

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

FC Dallas 0-1 Charleston, 29th minute

NE Revs 1-1 CP Baltimore, 105th minute

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Does anybody else hate the fire?

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Pizza Hut Park looks as empty as that stadium in Conn. tonight...

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

lightening delay in Texas!
Vamos United!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

usopencup.com reports attendance at New London as 2590.

3 minutes stoppage time for DCU-Chicago.

NER-CPB in the 113th.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

The player-coach for CP Balt. just subbed himself in for the last 6 minutes of the 2nd overtime.

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Thompson shoots wide..

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Full time: DC United 1-1 Chicago. Extra time coming...

NE-Crystal Palace -- PKs, anyone? usopencup says the CP coach, Jim Cherniski, has put himself in the match...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:22 PM | Report abuse

CPB down to 10 men for the last 2 minutes - Flores sent off for a bad tackle.

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

And Nicol just subbed Twellman out 1 minute before PKs!

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:25 PM | Report abuse

that sounds punk rock...
is it?

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

I've been saying New London, Conn. all night -- it's New Britain. Sheesh.

Looks like that one is going to go to penalty kicks.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Blanco enters for Chicago in extra time.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Namoff GOAL!!! DCU 2-1 Chicago

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Namoff?!!?

Posted by: stairs | July 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

I scored!!!!

Posted by: Byan Namoff | July 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Revs and CPB scored their first PKs

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Namoff in 93rd min.

Posted by: Alan | July 8, 2008 9:31 PM | Report abuse

NAMOFF!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

GOALLLLLLLLL United Namoff.

Namoff hates the fire too!!!!

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Wells' clumsiness nearly equalizes on behalf of Chicago - what else is new?

Posted by: Hmmm | July 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

I think Dyachenko has had enough chances, next time they should try Kirk.

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

If there's anything comical about Wells' performance its hearing Limarzi's exasperation describing it.

Posted by: Nick | July 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Peralta in for Moreno...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Revs keeper made a save and the 5th shot was one of those dumb chip shots. Revs win.

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

Final: NE Revolution 1(5)-1(3) CP Baltimore

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 9:37 PM | Report abuse

So much for the CPB-DCU match up...
Dang Revs!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

I hate New England. Does anybody else hate New England and Chicago?

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

wtf dual red cards?

Posted by: strago | July 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Burch and Blanco see red.

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

I didn't see it, but that sounds like an awful decision by this ref.

Posted by: stairs | July 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Double Red Card for Blanco and Burch. 10 men for both teams.

Posted by: Alan | July 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

judging by the commentary on the radio, it was a horrid call. Just give yellows sir!

Posted by: strago | July 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

I hate Blanco!!! Does anybody else hate Blanco?

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Sucks to not have Burch for the semis, but nice not to have to deal with Blanco for the next 15.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else hate Blanco?

He knows he isn't advancing - such a low-class player.

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Where do you go at Soccerplex with a red, the parking lot?

Posted by: Hmmm | July 8, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

that sounded pretty stupid...

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Blanco saves his most ridiculous stuff for when it's not on TV and it doesn't really matter (shhh)

Posted by: Logan Circle | July 8, 2008 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Whatever happened I hope Burch slapped the crap out of Blanco.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

If Wells blows this I think Olsen should lock him in the basement...

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I missed when it was discussed during the radio bradcast, but who (besides Burch) are out for the semis should we hold on?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

DCU had a disciplinary clean sheet against Rochester last week, so as things stand now, only Burch will have to miss the next round.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Go Charleston...1 - 0 over Dallas!
I hate Dall-ASS!

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

The match tracker is acting funny, maybe just time added for Reds...
Unrelated now by the looks of them. Someone please fill us in when they can.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Fred injured? What happened to him? We will really need him against he Mexicans

Posted by: Glenn | July 8, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

re fred:

Either a cramp or groin as far as I can tell

Posted by: strago | July 8, 2008 9:57 PM | Report abuse

@ JAP If Wells blows this one Olsen should play in goal!

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Martinez almost added another.

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Someone had a link for the Dallas-Charleston game? It's not on USLlive.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

3:50 to go.

free kick DC

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

What is the WX on the score line for the Dall-ASS Charelston match on USOpenCup.com Scoreboard?

http://www.usopencup.com/score/index_E.html

VAMOS 3 more mins.

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

WX=weather delay.

Posted by: tri-village | July 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Hold on, DC!

Posted by: Dsmac | July 8, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

4 min stoppage?

Posted by: JAP | July 8, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

4 minutes of stoppage time?

Posted by: Dsmac | July 8, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

You can watch the FCD-Battery game on mlslivetv - the 6 people that were originally in the stands before the lightning strike are back in their seats so they may be getting things started again in a bit.

Posted by: MK | July 8, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

No, we don't. Superliga is for show only. Rest any injured players. Get your bench as much playing time as possible.!!!!

>>>
Fred injured? What happened to him? We will really need him against he Mexicans

Posted by: Glenn | July 8, 2008 9:56 PM

Posted by: delantero | July 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Carr injured in DC game

Posted by: Dsmac | July 8, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

YESSSS

Posted by: mizage | July 8, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Yesssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Final: DC United 2-1 Chicago Fire.

Dallas-Charleston still in a weather delay.

WAY TO GO UNITED.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse


I scored!!!!

Posted by: Byan Namoff | July 8, 2008 9:31 PM
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You did it Bryan! You won the game!

Posted by: andrew | July 8, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh, another bad loss for DC against the Revs, sorry

Posted by: The Twellman Fan | July 8, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

@ Glenn
I agree. Super Liga is a complete waste of time. Nobody better get injured during the Superliga.

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 8, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

WTG United!

I was also pretty freakin' psyched that Palace went as far as they did. Go Palace!

Posted by: Trav | July 8, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Sweet! Left it at 1-0 Chicago, come back to find it 2-1 for the rolling United!

Love it. The team is learning to come from behind and take the game too. That's twice United has been down 1-0 to Miss O'Leary's Cows but pulls it out.

Nice job managing the minutes, Soehn and company.

Now it's time to take revenge on Chivas, however trifling it might be.

Posted by: delantero | July 8, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Oh, another bad loss for DC against the Revs, sorry

Posted by: The Twellman Fan | July 8, 2008 10:11 PM ----------------------------------------
screw you!! twellman is a little brat that sucks at soccer
he got subbed 30 seconds before the pk's!
screw you kevin g!!

Posted by: adf | July 8, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

FC Dallas 0-2 Charleston, 44th minute

Seattle-Kansas City should be under way soon.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 10:19 PM | Report abuse

seattle and kc just started 2 seconds underway

Posted by: cmon DC!! | July 8, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Field turf don't look soooo bad...
At least without the gridiron.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

FC Dallas 0-2 Charleston, half

Seattle 0-0 Kansas City, just started. Sounders are playing their full regular lineup against the Wizards' younger developmental guys. Nice crowd at Qwest too.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow, great job for United to come back and move on. But Marc Burch was looking like a contender for tournament MVP, so losing him on a red card is a big problem. Hoping for Peralta to step back into his usual role.

Posted by: DCUMD | July 8, 2008 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Are we gonna get the late night match report Ala Goff from Paul?
What was the Drama with Blanco and then Burch?
Nice save by Sounders Goalie!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Hasta la vista, Chicago...

Vamos DCU

Posted by: spike_2.0 | July 8, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know whether the DC-NE game on August 12th (I guess the champion's cup semi-final) will be at RFK? I seriously hope so for those of us w/o cars. Thanks!

Posted by: DC | July 8, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

The Chicago goal was just awful. The defenders blew their coverage and Wells came out, sort of - you know how he does it - and the Chicago player looped the ball over him.

{i missed Doe's goal]

Namoff's goal was sweet. DC won a corner on the right side and Moreno's CK was headed out for another corner. Moreno's second corner was driven to Namoff at the near post, who turned it in to the net.

Nice crowd tonight. It looked about twice as big as last week's.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 8, 2008 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Wells came out, sort of - you know how he does it -
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Only too well.

Keepers need to do their business or get off the pot, same as strikers. Kid needs to either bite his tongue and go bezerker a la Perkins or keep between the pipes unless he has a clear mandate.

At this point though, if he doesn't get it, he just doesn't get it.

Friggin defense needs to be more cutthroat, no doubt.

Posted by: spike_2.0 | July 8, 2008 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Semis at RFK.
Blanco kept coming up to Burch trying to piss him off. Finally, Burch just bumped him real hard and he fell on his butt. Pretty funny, really. Blanco whining and then refs confer and give the red cards - probably for instigation and Burch's bump!

Posted by: Albert Hall | July 8, 2008 11:15 PM | Report abuse

One more thing, and this is to Tommy:

DO NOT PUT DYACHENKO IN THE MIDDLE!!

EVER!!

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 8, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Ok match recap on DCU .com of course...
I was just confused about the Red cards, sucks that Burch got ejected but I am glad to see the team sticking up for each other and grinding out some important wins.
I have a lot of Respect for most of Blanco's game but I don't get where he thinks he can raise hands on anyone. Clyde Simms is not your old lady dude!
OT but yo cyclists stay out of garbage trucks blind spots and hey folks driving check your blind spots and use your turn signals before turning!
The reason most smart cyclists move towards left or center of the road at intersections is to avoid being cut off...
Slow down everyone and rookies stay the hell out of gutter! Take up as much of the lane that you need to be safe and make sure idiots talking on cellphones, and reaching for bags of chips dont run your sorry bum over!
Goooooooooooooo Seattle!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Seattle 0-0 Kansas City, half

FC Dallas 0-2 Charleston, 86th minute

Looks like they've fallen asleep at the US Open Cup blog...no updates since 10:29 Eastern. MLSnet hasn't updated the SEA-KC game to in-progress status, either.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I can't catch a break on this blog. I mean, we won, didn't we? So I let in another soft goal. BFD. Try and find another goalie that's better looking than me

Posted by: zach wells | July 8, 2008 11:21 PM | Report abuse

CHS 3-0 now

Posted by: RK | July 8, 2008 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm better looking than you, Zach. And I could've saved that goal.

Posted by: hope solo | July 8, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Cooper late goal, 3-1 CHS final

Posted by: RK | July 8, 2008 11:24 PM | Report abuse

FC Dallas 1-3 Charleston, final. Means the Battery get to host whoever wins the Seattle-KC tilt.

Seattle 0-0 Kansas City, 2nd

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

"Burch just bumped him real hard..."

Bit of an understatement... from where I was sitting, Burch got a couple of steps start and threw a shoulder worthy of an NFL cornerback (not a linebacker, mind you, but pretty impressive nonetheless), sending Blanco to the ground in a heap. Clearly a red card. Of course, it also looked as though Blanco may have been headed for a teammate, so it was possibly well deserved. Entertaining regardless... one of the highlights of the season thus far for me.

"Where do you go at Soccerplex with a red, the parking lot?"

Close... you walk up a hill and into a high-school gym looking building. Unless you're Blanco of course, in which case you start up the hill, come halfway back down to argue with the fans, get into a shouting match with Burch at 20 paces, and then get escorted out. Possibly the first time I've ever cheered for the MD State Police. ;)

Posted by: StickmanInDC | July 8, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

""go bezerker a la Perkins""

Right, Wells needs to commit all out or stay on the line.

Yell, BANSAI!! and attack them!

Posted by: delantero | July 8, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Anyone catch that tool Tim Brandt, our local DC channel 7 sportscaster, tonight?

Per usual the Skins (not playing for two months), the return of Nadal to Spain, Brett Favre's un retirment, and tiddlywinks beats out the "no highlight" mention of United's score---

And then the silly man butcher's Namoff -- calling him NEM off.

Posted by: delantero | July 8, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

""Unless you're Blanco of course, in which case you start up the hill, come halfway back down to argue with the fans, get into a shouting match with Burch at 20 paces, and then get escorted out. Possibly the first time I've ever cheered for the MD State Police. ;)""

Awesome!

Posted by: Welcome to Germantown, Blanco | July 8, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Back from Boyds. Clearly, having Zack Wells in goal is better than having no goalie at all. That's about all I can say about that. Except that, why the hell does he take so damn long to come out and challenge when there's a long ball over the defense? He got burned on one goal -- should have been burned a second time not long after that, but the shot somehow slid wide. I'll give him some credit for two or three big stops, but he was late coming out on those, too.

Moreno's shot was a thing of beauty. Too bad he hit the post. Once again, Fred's touch betrayed him on a breakaway. Good thing we already had the lead. McTavish got badly beat once by Mapp, but he got a little help from Burch and then he recovered to make the stop. He made a lot of stops in the second half and in the OT. I feel like it was the best performance I've seen from a DC central defender all year, but I'd have to see replays to see who was getting beat on the long balls. He did a good job on Carr, who usually eats us alive.

Doe was nicely set up -- can't even remember who delivered the pass. Was it Emilio? I remember some nice work in the corner by Fred and Namoff. Namoff's shot was sweet. I was really sweating it out in the second half. The DC bench was a joke, and the Fire were warming up Carr, then Mapp, and then Brown, Gutierrez and Blanco. Seemed like a mismatch heading into the OT. Namoff's goal changed everything.

Blanco should be really embarrassed about his performance. He wasn't in that long and he took three dives. Pitiful. Fire's #11 should've gotten a red card for his foul on Moreno, but it was nice to see (and hear) Jaime whack him back later.

Too bad Cordeiro didn't get much of a chance in this game. He had one beautiful touch on the side, and then a nice run that earned a throw-in deep. I really like this kid. I think he's got a future with the first team.

All-in-all, a good effort with a patchwork lineup. Isn't there a better goalie in search of playing time somewhere in the world? No offense, Zack, but you just don't seem to have a feel for the position. Not at this level, anyway.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 8, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Never mind the win, United scored off a header! Now honestly, who saw that coming!

Posted by: Kire | July 8, 2008 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Delantro I just saw the same less than awesome report...
Oh well, hopefully some more video of the game will turn up on you tube or BTB or something.
Really the recount of Blanco's exit is Awesome! That had to be worth the ticket price alone!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 8, 2008 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. We had a coterie of fans lined up, waiting for Blanco to make the march to the locker room. Some fans, but also DCU fans there to razz him. What a jerk.

Why is that I never understand what Dadyran writes? Is he writing in English? Does anyone know what he's going on about?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 8, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

And here I post that remark right after Dadyran's first coherent post ever.....

Posted by: Anonymous | July 8, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Seattle 0-0 Kansas City, 70th minute

Seattle seems to be playing better than KC, but just missing chances.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Whoops, I meant off a corner!! We do get headers. I plead tiredness.

Posted by: Kire | July 8, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

It helps to know the background to understand Dadryan - sometimes. His rant was because of the DC cyclist who ran into, or was run into by, a garbage truck. She did not survive.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 8, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Fred injured? What happened to him? We will really need him against he Mexicans

Posted by: Glenn | July 8, 2008 9:56 PM
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Namoff had cramps in his leg. I think Fred just got a good ding. He was sent clear on a great lead pass, but he took an awful first touch in towards the defender-- then the defender swept the ball clear and clipped Fred's leg (foot or ankle or shin). He got up limping. Don't think it was cramps though.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 8, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Charleston's got a good thing going. That's two years in a row for this USL team. Maybe they should be in the MLS, instead of the Red Bulls***.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 12:01 AM | Report abuse

Never mind the win, United scored off a header! Now honestly, who saw that coming!

Posted by: Kire | July 8, 2008 11:46 PM
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I was sitting just about even with the 18 yd. line. I feel like I saw it coming, as I was striking up a lonely DC United chant on the quiet side.....I certainly felt it coming. I guess my instincts overwhelmed my soccer sense -- or else I would have dismissed the idea of DCU scoring on a corner kick.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 12:07 AM | Report abuse

Full time: Seattle 0-0 Kansas City

Extra time coming...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 9, 2008 12:13 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of traffic. I just want to make the following observation. I know there were many more people there tonight -- perhaps almost twice as many as last week. However, there was a policeman directing traffic at the intersection of the two lines of traffic exiting the complex. He seemed to be directing one line for a time, then the other, creating long back-ups in both lines. Last week, without police direction, traffic form the two lines executed merges perfectly, one after the other, and traffic flowed, without stopping.

Perhaps, there's a lesson there?

Then, there was a second policeman right at the exit, who seemed to be doing nothing more than waving the line of traffic out. I can't understand what his role was, unless it was to slow down exiting traffic that had to steer around him. Unless he was there to stop traffic should the back-up from the light at 118 extended all the way to Schaeffer Rd., I really have no clue what he was supposed to be doing.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Seattle 0-0 Kansas City, 105 minutes gone...something tells me this one will go to PK's too.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 9, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Sounders look much better than the Wiz.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

PKs. Wheeeee!

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 9, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Yeah my bad, I did say OT when mentioning the young lady who got creamed in Dupont...
But I think FF was maybe talking about my post right before his recount of the taunting they gave Blanco...
who cares
I am a drunk idiot with nothing good to say but please folks be careful out there on the road, have some compassion, and be safe.
Most cyclists are not seasoned enough to intuit where they should be in the road, and it's not worth getting pissed off at the ones who do and are " all over the road".
Flames painted on garbage trucks are STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Full extra time: Seattle 0-0 Kansas City. The Sounders keeper made a nice save at the end of the second added period.

PKs coming up.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 9, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Sounders win.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 9, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Traffic?
Are you kidding FF?
I hope so dude.
Why is it that so many of these pricks on this blog are such stuck up prima-donna a$$h*les?
I'll be expecting the last of the regulars to finish me off tomorrow.
Sounders Win!

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

So how do we go about getting Seattle's keeper to replace Wells???

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Seattle v. Charleston. Mega-props to the USL sides.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Tonight's final scores:

New England Revolution 1(5)-1(3) Crystal Palace Baltimore
DC United 2-1 Chicago Fire
FC Dallas 1-3 Charleston Battery
Seattle Sounders 0(6)-0(5) Kansas City Wizards

USOC semifinals, 8/12:

NE Revolution at DC United
Seattle at Charleston

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 9, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see the Schmid dude get a chance on the MLS squad next year if he doesn't find greener pastures.
The Frog didn't look so good with his finishing tonight. Maybe he's tired?
Speaking of Traffic...
God forbid anyone else loses any friends or family to a stinking garbage truck.
Classy Fisch Fry, real classy.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of Traffic?
Are you kidding FF?
I hope so dude.
Why is it that so many of these pricks on this blog are such stuck up prima-donna a$$h*les?

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:04 AM
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If you're done ranting, I was making the point that traffic moved out of the stadium much more smoothly, without a hitch or real back-ups, last week...when there wasn't a traffic cop to muck it up. I don't think that point makes me out to be a prima donna or an a$$h@le. And my "speaking of traffic" reference was to the comments at the top of this thread, about traffic on I-270. So, what's not classy about my comment?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:11 AM | Report abuse

If there's a jerk or an "a$$h@le" here tonight, I don't think it's me.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:13 AM | Report abuse

My thoughts on the game:

DC started well for the first 10-15 minutes, but then lost their way. I think Chicago managed to frustrate us enough to cause us to attempt approximately 3000 long balls, none of which came anywhere close to causing any kind of trouble. Chicago didn't get much possession, but were able to create better chances. On the first goal, I think people are (as always, it seems) being harsh on Wells. The goal was 90% on the poorly timed attempt to step forward and catch Rolfe offside. Once our back four stepped forward too late to catch him, Wells was screwed. He could have come out faster, sure, but I personally blame the defenders.

After halftime, we got a bit better. Doe looked much better than last week, and Thompson continued to look like a good acquisition(very feisty despite being so small). Moreno then came on, and the game completely changed. It continually amazes me how much better every other player on the team plays when Moreno is in as opposed to when he is not. Doe got his goal, and then Moreno hit the post with what would have been a glorious goal. Chicago looked gassed but stayed organized enough to get through regulation. Namoff got the winner, and Chicago offered little else in response (especially once Blanco got sent off).

Ratings:
Wells - 5 (a couple shaky moments, but saved 2 1v1s after being hung out to dry by poor defending)
Namoff - 6 (did OK aside from a 1st half slip that let up a 1v1 Wells saved; scored the winner)
McTavish - 3 (Probably his worst game in a DC jersey. He just couldn't time anything right, and struggled distributing. Hopefully a one-off)
Burch - 5 (Did well to cover for McTavish's struggles, tackled well, but got sent off)
Martinez - 5 (Subdued performance by his standards)
P. Carroll - 4 (Struggled to be a factor; looked uncomfortable)
Simms - 5 (Decent job, though not quite as good as usual)
Dyachenko - 4 (Improved while Moreno was in, but was the chief architect of rudderless attack before Moreno's entry)
Cordeiro - 5 (Seems to be the class of our reserves; would have liked to see him make more of an impact)
Fred - 4 (Seems out of sorts right now; some bad decisions with the ball cancelled out his good moments)
Emilio - 5 (Gave a good effort despite being on an island until Moreno came in)

Subs:
Thompson - 5 (Good pickup; he looks like a very unpleasant player to be up against)
Doe - 7 (Good finish; looked much more comfortable than last week)
Moreno - 8 (the major factor in our win, as otherwise Chicago was arguably the better team)
Peralta - 6 (Shored up back four; helped prevent any real tense moments during last 15 minutes)

I-270, north of exit 10: 2 (I'm going to refer to this region of MD as Siberia from now on)

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | July 9, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

'Scuse me -- I guess that should be "a$$h*le"

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

From the previous thread -- the scores were a little off but my basic predictions were spot on :)

How about that?

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Predictions:

NE Revs 3-1 CP Baltimore
FC Dallas 0-1 Charleston
Seattle 2-1 Kansas City

and finally...

DC 2-1 Chicago

(Still looking for that Fire jersey to wear, so's I can help the DCU winning cause! ;) )

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 8, 2008 3:01 PM

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 9, 2008 1:19 AM | Report abuse

Honestly I thought you were speaking of traffic in reference to the fact that a 22 year old girl got mashed by a garbage truck in Dupont.
I think that singling me out, without knowing what I was talking about especially when I pointed out that it was off the topic was lame and stuck the f-up.
If you are going to dis me or make a comment on my posts you must expect me to say something if I'm still up lookin, right?
Don't bother CCin' my post, just let it out.
This isn't a gosh darn "look who can speak and spell better contest" it's a sports blog.
You're analysis of the game was boring. Your mention of taunting Blanco was fun. You calling me out because I don't make sense is as stale as THE PB calling DC United:The United.
I have fun here, if you don't like it you could always just ignore me like most probably do.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:25 AM | Report abuse

My comments on I-270's comments:

"Chicago didn't get much possession, but were able to create better chances"

Doesn't that describe every DCU-Chicago game?

"Doe looked much better than last week"

Indeed.

"Once our back four stepped forward too late to catch him, Wells was screwed. He could have come out faster, sure, but I personally blame the defenders."

I wasn't giving the defense a pass on that play. However, if you get chipped like that, it means you got yourself into no man's land. The defense didn't leave Wells much of a chance on the play, but I wasn't even singling out that play as his worst.

Though I concur with much of your ratings, I think you're way harsh on McTavish. I saw Burch save him once, when Mapp schooled him, but McTavish was the one who got up off the ground, ran back and got the ball away, in the end. He also broke up a number of chances late in the second half, and in the first overtime. I thought he was our best defender, not our worst.

I also think you're selling Martinez short. He played a good game in a new position. He even made some fine stops when he fell back into the defense. He made one great run in overtime that might have produced a goal if Doe had responded to my screams for him to pass to the wing.

As for Jaime, though he played limited minutes, this may have been his best effort of the season.

I'd bump up Burch, who sent in one great free kick and played some good defense, Martinez, who did well enough to earn better than a 5, and I'd bump McTavish way up. I'd knock Doe down a peg -- way better than last week, but I'm not sure the goal earns him a 7 - he really botched a header on a perfect corner by Moreno, and gave away to many balls on the attack, including a poorly-conceived shot late.

Otherwise, I concur in your ratings and observations.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

Sorry FF your analysis along with some of the others are exactly what I come here looking for when I can't see the game myself.
Picking on people when you have not figured out something interesting to write is a little lame though, and although no one would probably peg you as a A$$h*le, you treated me like one.
I know waaah, waaah. I'm just saying. No real hard feelings from me at this late hour dude. I hope steve will have like a SI pool party or something sometime this summer so we can all get together and have a group hug. Or at least laugh at Mastodon Juan's speedo...

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:50 AM | Report abuse

To Dadyran:

I know what you thought. Did that make any sense to you? HOw owuld that be "speaking of traffic"? But, as long as we're on people not being entirely clear -- you didn't say it was off-topic" -- you typed OT. Who the hell knows what that means? My point was that your posts are always so stream of consciousness and full of references that are unclear, that I often wonder what you're talking about. You don't need to have perfect grammar or spelling, but if you're trying to communicate with others, shouldn't you actually try to write so others can know what you mean? What's the point of posts that make sense to you and no one else?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:51 AM | Report abuse

MJ has a speedo? Oh no....

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:52 AM | Report abuse

Group mosh pit when DCU brings home the Cup...Any cup.

Posted by: FIsch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:54 AM | Report abuse

I don't know if I'll have the last word tonight, but I wanted to give a shout-out to Paul Tenorio. Great piece on tonight's game. You put the game's essence into print. Not an easy task.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

There was another DC United squad in action Tuesday. In the SUM U-17 tournament, DC United was playing Chivas in the semifinals. The DC boys won their first three games by a combined 9-1 score. If you watch the clip of the first game, you'll see nice play by forward Chris Hegngi, who reminds me of Emilio, with a bit of Luca Toni thrown in. The DC 'keeper is also quite impressive. Wonder if he might want to play for the senior team? Tuesday's result isn't posted yet to the MLS site, but I'm looking forward to seeing it tomorrow. A win would put the DCU team in position to defend their title on Thursday. So, DC United did win a tournament last year.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 2:43 AM | Report abuse

I was really bumbed that CPB lost in PK. I didn't feel good when it went to pk knowing Revs keeper...what's his name? the bold head? Otherwise, who could have predicted CPB giong all the way to almost beat supposedly - temporarily the leading MLS team to reach the semis? Maybe the coach/player made mistake by putting himself and not given a regular player who could have done miracle last minute! Nevertheless, I am more than happy for United's won. It's almost like winning the championship knowing beating NE is easier than the Fire.

Posted by: arlington4united | July 9, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Blanco = classless. How many folks still remember him trying to instigate something with Pablo Mastroeni during the World Cup, kicking him while he was down? Never, never let this be forgotten. Let Blanco hear it until he crawls back south of the border for good.

Posted by: FHS | July 9, 2008 7:43 AM | Report abuse

If Seattle or Charleston win the cup, will they qualify for the Champions League or will it go to the next MLS team? How would that work in England and the FA Cup which gets them into the UEFA Cup?

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 9, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

Would Seattle Sounders FC get the Champions League berth for next year if they USL version wins the US Open Cup?

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 9, 2008 8:10 AM | Report abuse

@ Blue Blood
That's a great question.

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 9, 2008 8:13 AM | Report abuse

@ Blue Blood
That's a great question.

Posted by: Harpo #9 | July 9, 2008 8:13 AM
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@ Harpo.

That is a freaking great question.
I never thought of it that way.

Seattle Sounders and Seattle FC are not exactly the same franchise.

Wow. I can't believe that Blood was the first person I have seen ask that question.

Let the speculation begin (until the USSF feels the need to clarify--they might just wait to see if Charleston takes out the Sounders before making any sort of public statements)!!!

Would the spot be transferable to Seattle FC?

Would the tournament runner up get the automatic bid?

If Seattle Sounders morph into another USL1 franchise and move to Kitsap, WA (which could very well happen) would they get to keep the spot (seriously, I just had to throw that out there--we all no that ain't gonna happen. Let's be real. The USSF ain't gonna do that and MLS ain't gonna let that happen)..

VBB-with a golazo of a question.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

^I was the clown giving Blue Blood and Harpo the props.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 9, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I am pretty sure that the Sounders, MLS version are technically a different entity that Sounders, USL version, so they wouldn't keep the CCL space, which would go to the runner up. I also think, but am not sure, the the space goes to the winner of the cup, no matter what division they play in, otherwise, why would Canada even have a playoff for the spot?

Posted by: northzax | July 9, 2008 9:09 AM | Report abuse

FF: I can never understand him, and usually ignore him. The other day, when he wrote "Tour Day France", I just shrugged.

It sucks that Charleston and Seattle have to play in the semis...

Posted by: RK | July 9, 2008 9:10 AM | Report abuse

Big ups to my Crystal Palace boys and our franchise for battling. and ror representing Charm City and the USL2 in a big way.

We came close (I know that "close" don't count when all is said and done).

We let the MLSers know who we be!

Our ownership and management kept their promises and gave us a club that can compete with MLS reserves and USL1 clubs.
And I thank them for it.

If an MLS side is going to come play us, and they decide to use their reserves then they had better be good reserves or we will hurt their feelings. New England has good reserves. That is no shock. Say what you want about the perennial MLS Cup runneruppers--they find good economical talent. Kraft has people on staff who know what they are doing.

At least now I don't have to feel any emotional conflict over a United-Palace matchup in a real game that matters.

It will take something just short of a miracle for Puerto Rico Islanders to advance to meet DC United in this year's Champions so I should be AOK from here...

Posted by: yankiboy | July 9, 2008 9:15 AM | Report abuse

I like dadryan, and since I like Bob Roll too, I know exactly what he's talking about with Tour Day France . . . . at least I think I do . . . .

On the other hand, dadryan may just be Goff's alter ego, his way of messing with y'all

Harpo #9, I hate Blanco too. Didn't Burch knock him on his can last Fire game too?

Posted by: OWNTF | July 9, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse

@northzax

Very true that it is a different entity, but, and let's go down this road, you have the same owner (Hanauer) and the USL Sounders are gone forever after this year.

Also, say that either DC United or New England makes it and gets the spot for Champions League via Supporter's Shield or MLS Cup appearance - does it go to Seattle then? Does it go to Charleston?

It's definitely something that CONCACAF, MLS, USL, and the USSF need to come out and shore up.

Steven - can you update us on this situation from Blackberry or iPhone-land?

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 9, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"With the win, United advanced past Chicago for the first time in nine matches in knockout competition."

I had no idea Chicago had our number that badly.

Thank you again, Jaime, for all that you do.

Posted by: Joe Doc | July 9, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like Blanco head butted DC United staff and someone mentioned to sue Blanco. While it's not the way to do it but the league should fine him good if that's true. Anyone seen it?

Posted by: td | July 9, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Also, say that either DC United or New England makes it and gets the spot for Champions League via Supporter's Shield or MLS Cup appearance - does it go to Seattle then? Does it go to Charleston?

It's definitely something that CONCACAF, MLS, USL, and the USSF need to come out and shore up.
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@ Da Ole VBB

Wow!?! You are really trying to make a Brutha excercise the cranium this morning, huh? I hadn't even made it that far into the process.

In the even of the scenario that you described, I would expect both the MLS & USL to lobby for the spot in protection of their members' interests.

I don't think that the decision would be CONCACAF's. It would be exclusively the USSF's. They leave it up to the countries' feds to get the qualification process for the their respective spots.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 9, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

mentioned on behindthebadge...sorry unclear.

Posted by: td | July 9, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: moses | July 9, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Blanco = classless. How many folks still remember him trying to instigate something with Pablo Mastroeni during the World Cup, kicking him while he was down? Never, never let this be forgotten. Let Blanco hear it until he crawls back south of the border for good.

Posted by: FHS | July 9, 2008 7:43 AM
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Are you freaking kidding me?!?! That image is forever burned on my brain's hard drive.
Until I go senile, long after he has retired from the sport, I will remember that image.

I freaking can't stand him. He represents the worst in low class sportsmanship to me.
I'm so glad that he isn't wearing the jersey of any team that I support--that is how much I can't stand him. Talent is great, talent+class+humility the killer tri-fecta. Dude's missing 2 out of the 3.

I wouldn't walk across the street to meet him if I had the chance. If I passed him in a hotel lobby or sitting five feet away I wouldn't waste my time.

He could start an orphanage and I would still remember the Mastroeni thing or the riot that he heled trigger in Azteca against the Brazilian club several years back. That is how much I can't stand him.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 9, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

My comments on I-270's comments:
Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 9, 2008 1:39 AM
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That was Chest Rockwell. Please don't confuse us. He provides a thoughtful and eloquent analysis of the match. I'm comic relief.

I agree with Mr. Rockwell on Martinez. He (Gonzo, not Chest) seemed to misjudge a number of balls last night - quite uncharacteristic of him. Cordiero was average at best. He wasted a lot of passes right in front of where I was sitting. If he did anything redeemable away from me, I could not tell (I have a hard time recognizing these new players when I can't read their jerseys or recognize their shoes - my son called Fred's orange shoes "duck feet")

I think the order of succession for the Champions league spots has been discussed exhaustively on this blog. I'm not inclined to look it up, but I recall it favoring MLS in the event that a team meets two of the qualifying criteria, i.e. I don't think that the USOC runner up is eligible for a spot in case an MLS team wins the USOC and the MLS Cup and/or the SS. If in doubt, the Galaxy qualify.

Traffic on I-270 sucks. So what else is new? Where in this area does traffic not suck? And Siberia has better restaurants.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 9, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Two comments:

1) Without any humility, I'd like to remind y'all that I pointed out Burch's backbone from the last match at the SoccerPlex. Nice to have a guy that won't take crap and stands up for teammates.

2) Nice to see Thompson's effort on the first goal fully recognized. Without it, chances are United (and me) go home unhappy. Thompson looks to be a great pickup - can add value to the game as a substitute rather than most of our bench which takes value away (unless Jaime is on it - he was awsome last night)

Posted by: Old Colt | July 9, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

@ Dadryan:

If I had a dollar for every typo or difference of opinion with some of my brethren and sisteren here, I'd be getting paid.

I should probably proofread but ya know what, I'm not submitting a request for a federal grant or a job application or a PHD thesis. Those activities all require attention to detail and precise execution.

The truth is that being a classic "underachiever", I just don't care enough to invest the time to strive for "perfection". I just try to make my points. My opinions aren't worth very much and I don't take myself seriously so if anyone here doesn't take me seriously, my feelings aren't going to get hurt.

Keep doing your thing.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 9, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

After Blanco was red carded, he walked into the bench, and the DC United head game liason followed him into the bench to tell him he had to leave the field.

Blanco said "No, *bleep* you" and leaned in and headbutted him.

Liason shouldn't have been so close to him to get caught like that. Probably shouldn't have been in the technical area wearing a DC United shirt either.

But that doesn't excuse Blanco headbutting him. Or the outburst up the hill.

Posted by: Behind the Fire Bench | July 9, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

We played a great game. The team fought hard to get a win, I didnt like the decision the reff had on giving Burch the red card, a yellow was going to be enough. Besides that I wasnt playing at my top level had to come out in the second OT, but my presence was enough to give the team a little lift. I really think we are coming along, we are working better, having the our young guys get some minutes in this kind of games really helps our team to improve. Hope you all come and support us this sat vs chivas. It should a good game, hope we get a lot of pople out to rfk. VAMOS UNITED!!!!

Posted by: Jaime Moreno #99 | July 9, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Forgot another thing that the ref missed - Moreno cleanly beat someone approaching the box and was taken down from behind. Violently. Clear red card. Only resulted in yellow.

Posted by: Old Colt | July 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Yankiboy, I thought I was the first to ask the question of the Sounders fate if they win the USOC....
I can't remember which thread it was, but when I was looking around for info on the Wiz/Sounders match last week I stumbled upon the question that the new owners group(which includes the current owner)were asking.
Sounders FC have already signed the French guy, I wonder if this maybe puts even more pressure on the new club to sign some of the current Sounders to strengthen their case for the berth...
That is of course if they win.

Good to see I am not the Only Bob Roll fan on here...
It's obvious that my abstract take on life doesn't entertain everyone, but it's nice to hear that my spew of consciousness isn't a total loss.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Sorry I-270. and Chest. I was up past my bedtime. Synapses weren't working properly.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

@ RK: To clarify, the Tour Day France thing was a reference to Bob Roll's commentary. It's all in fun...
I don't get bent out of shape when I hear EVERYONE pronounce Gallardo's name wrong, but I do think it's kind of comical that almost everyone says NIL. Tomato, Toematoe, have some fun, you'll be dead soon.

Posted by: Dadryan | July 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Yankiboy, I thought I was the first to ask the question of the Sounders fate if they win the USOC....
-------------------------------------------@ Dadryan

My apologies sir. You are brilliant. I didn't see that. Day late, dollar short. There is enough genius to go around here.

Posted by: yankboy | July 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I think 270 is just being nice. My comments are based on the idea that if I say enough things, one of them is bound to be true (or at least truthy).

Fisch Fry:

Fair enough. In retrospect, there are a couple times I probably mistook McTavish and P. Carroll or even Namoff...my eyesight at that distance isn't particularly good. Maybe it's time we asked the players to get distinctive haircuts so I can figure out who's who.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | July 10, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

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