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More Trouble in Columbus

Terrific.....

[The Associated Press story filed immediately following the incident is below. Click here for Shawn Mitchell's story in this morning's Columbus Dispatch.]

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- A halftime brawl between more than 100 fans marred an exhibition match Sunday between West Ham United of the English Premier League club and the MLS' Columbus Crew.

The fights, which overshadowed West Ham United's 3-1 win, began when a handful of West Ham supporters, some wearing the team's claret and blue colors, entered the northeast corner of the stadium where the Crew's most boisterous supporters typically gather.

Crew supporters began directing chants toward the rival fans, and fights quickly broke out between more than 100 Crew fans and at least 30 West Ham fans. Columbus police officers and Crew Stadium security staff eventually separated the groups.

Highway Patrol officers arrested one fan outside the stadium for disorderly conduct, Patrol spokeswoman Anne Ralston said. A dispatcher didn't know whether Columbus police had made any arrests inside the stadium.

By Steve Goff  |  July 20, 2008; 9:37 PM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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Comments

This really is terrific. Now people actually have a reason to watch the All-Star game.

Posted by: SDLJ | July 20, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This really is terrific. Now people actually have a reason to watch the All-Star game.

Posted by: SDLJ | July 20, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

...I wonder if Crew fans watched Green Street Hooligans too many times???

Posted by: gunners4lif | July 20, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like it wasn't contained to just halftime either -- lots of people saying all hell broke loose in the parking lot following the match.

Posted by: Kurt | July 20, 2008 9:54 PM | Report abuse

what happened to crew fans?....it used to seem like such a tame atmosphere at Crew stadium

Posted by: Anonymous | July 20, 2008 9:56 PM | Report abuse

You guys are missing the point. The West Ham fans came into our section looking for a fight. It would have happened exactly the same had they walked into Barra Brava, Section 8, or the Red Patch Boys. This wasn't a "Columbus" problem. This was a " Drunk West Ham Hooligan-wannbe" problem.

Posted by: HardHatMike | July 20, 2008 10:02 PM | Report abuse

You're sort of asking for it when you have a group called the "Hudson Street Hooligans"

Posted by: AlecW81 | July 20, 2008 10:06 PM | Report abuse

hardhat thats what i figured it was. way to stand your ground

Posted by: Chris D | July 20, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

The Hammers - a low rent organization from top to bottom.

It truly is a shame the FA let them cheat their way to Tevez in the '06-'07 season to stay up at the expense of Sheffield Utd. That was a truly awful trade for the Prem.

Posted by: Kyle | July 20, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm shocked and stunned.

There are 100 Crew fans?

Posted by: Dave Lifton | July 20, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

"You're sort of asking for it when you have a group called the "Hudson Street Hooligans"

Posted by: AlecW81 | July 20, 2008 10:06 PM"

seriously - whether it's an homage to Green Street Hooligans or not i can see wannabe west ham hooligans taking it as an affront and a reason to start something. Don't know how MLS/Columbus would think it's a good idea to allow a supporters group that celebrates a hooligan culture that should have zero tolerance here.

Posted by: pat | July 20, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I'd start a fight too if I were a West Ham fan and someone from the Columbus group said I was uglier than a Crewzer.

Posted by: Todd H. | July 20, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

I blame this all on Guillermo Barros-Schelotto because he came to Columbus last year from Argentina and said that the Crew and MLS fans lack the passion of Argentines. So now the Crew's most ardent backers are trying to show Guillermo how passionate they are.

Posted by: Bill in Md. | July 20, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Credit to the Hammers, though, for taking on such long odds. Double credit if the Crew fans had their light-sabers with them tonight.

Posted by: Todd H. | July 20, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

This is very unfortunate -- especially when combined with the earlier story about CP Baltimore and Western Mass. Regardless of who started it and why, the two stories are almost bound to provide ammunition for those who like to denigrate soccer. In short, they're not good for the sport. And that's true even though similar incidents happen in every other sport.

Lets just hope no one was hurt.

Posted by: Curious | July 20, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

tsk. both sides played their respective parts, and both sides are guilty of being stupid and irresponsible. even if west ham fans 'came into [their] section looking for a fight,' the crew supporters have let their reputation go to the skids this season. i, for one, am not impressed by pseudo-hooligan posturing. or racism. or streamers.

figure your s*** out, columbus.

Posted by: longfellow | July 20, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

GSE! GSE! GSE!

Posted by: Anonymous | July 20, 2008 10:59 PM | Report abuse

This will either make for interesting reading in tomorrow's Dispatch -- or it'll be completely glossed over.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 20, 2008 11:01 PM | Report abuse

thanks columbus for giving my anti soccer friends more ammunition

Posted by: really?! | July 20, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

HardHatMike:

No, this wouldn't happen everywhere else. In New England, we have had to deal with fans looking for fights, and we don't fight them, we talk to security and let the pro's take away the drunk fight-seekers.

Posted by: Will Speck | July 20, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

I hate how close this comes to defending the Crew. I don't like them any more than anyone else who bleeds black and red.

But seriously folks-
Stop directing blame at just one group. There's plenty to go around.

Having been a visiting fan to Crew stadium many times, I have always been struck at how little common sense the stadium "security" displays. There is no prevention, only reaction. This is just plain stupid and easily preventable.

Crew "security" regularly allow rival factions to intermingle until something /does/ break out, rather than keeping groups seperate. It's high time the security teams wised up to the idea that trouble can happen when you have two rival factions intermingling.

There is not enough information at this point. Just be fair about passing around the blame if you're determined to be up in arms, that's all.

Posted by: spectre | July 20, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Nothing wrong with a little passion . . .

Posted by: bring it | July 20, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/07/20/brawl21.html?sid=101

I'm sure we will hear more, but it sounds like there were traveling West Ham fans that actually baited this....wow....

Posted by: frankie boy | July 20, 2008 11:42 PM | Report abuse

If a tree falls in a woods...

Posted by: unfortunately | July 20, 2008 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Why is drunken, bloated west ham hooligans battling it out with idiotic ohio rednecks so funny? This is globalization folks. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Please, please, please let there be youtube footage of this.

Posted by: pigman sweet | July 20, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

I was there. We met them after the match at the dairy queen near the stadium and murderized them. We are the kings of mayhem.

Posted by: crewzer luvr | July 20, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

All should fear entering the domains of crew stadium for it is the very pits of hell.

Posted by: crewzer luvr | July 21, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

All should fear entering the domains of crew stadium for it is the very pits of hell.

Posted by: crewzer luvr | July 21, 2008 12:14 AM | Report abuse

"I was there. We met them after the match at the dairy queen near the stadium and murderized them. We are the kings of mayhem."

Congratulations, you solved your problem with fist rather than words. Seriously, you are an idiot.

Posted by: Will Speck | July 21, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

Will,

Uh, I'm gonna guess "crewzer luvr" isn't actually a Crew fan...

Posted by: Jon | July 21, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Congratulations You have just met the ICF.

Posted by: littles | July 21, 2008 12:58 AM | Report abuse

30 West Ham Fans VS Crew Fans: I'll take the West Ham Fans.

Posted by: Butch | July 21, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Psh, so some drunken guys wandered into the supporters sections and got popped and this is worthy of media coverage?

Posted by: Brian | July 21, 2008 1:18 AM | Report abuse

I blame this all on Guillermo Barros-Schelotto because he came to Columbus last year from Argentina and said that the Crew and MLS fans lack the passion of Argentines. So now the Crew's most ardent backers are trying to show Guillermo how passionate they are.

Posted by: Bill in Md. | July 20, 2008 10:37 PM
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Bro, do I hope that your theory is wrong. Really wrong. I'd like to hope that intelligent people (please save the Crew supporters wisecracks people--I'm being serious)--intelligent people shouldn't be so emotionally insecure and in search of validation just to try and earn the love and respect of a miilionaire that was pretty muvh playing a public relations game.

Even after their TO visit and seeing Red Patch/U-Sector and Tribal Nation, ect. "take over their house".

On second thought, I do suspect that their may be some inferiority complex at work here.

undoubtedly, some of the Hammers fans were looking for trouble.

"passion" great. Stupidity and criminal behavior are just stupid and criminal.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 21, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

This is very unfortunate -- especially when combined with the earlier story about CP Baltimore and Western Mass. Regardless of who started it and why, the two stories are almost bound to provide ammunition for those who like to denigrate soccer. In short, they're not good for the sport. And that's true even though similar incidents happen in every other sport.

Lets just hope no one was hurt.

Posted by: Curious | July 20, 2008 10:43 PM
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I agree with you. I hope that no one was hurt. Especially no one looking for trouble, someone who just wanted to go to a soccer match and wasn't trying to go the thug route.

As far as the haters go, I don't worry about giving them ammunition. It is Ohio. I'm sure that at Cleveland Brown and Ohio State games that they have idiots. Anyone who would kill soccer because of some stupid fans and then turn around and watch the NFL or any of the other major sports in this country (including NCAA D1 football or basketball) and not see the hypocirsy in talking about the clowns into soccer in this country need a serious reality check.

No one following soccer in this county riots after their team wins the MLS Cup or beats up unofficial mascots old enough to be your grandfather like the Eagles fans did to Chief Zee. Has anyone broken any senior citizen's legs and/or left them hospitalized? When was the last time that an MLS or USL supporter turned over a police car to celebrate or "vent" over a result. Or looted?

Posted by: yankiboy | July 21, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

Since Crew fans are obviously the problem, can the other teams get their streamer-tossing rights back, please?

Posted by: KB | July 21, 2008 1:31 AM | Report abuse

The Crew supporters section is MASSIVE. The West Ham fans were drawn there by its gravitational force. So the only thing that can be said about this whole incident is that nobody can be blamed. The Hammers couldn't help it.

Posted by: Crew fan | July 21, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

"

tsk. both sides played their respective parts, and both sides are guilty of being stupid and irresponsible. even if west ham fans 'came into [their] section looking for a fight,' the crew supporters have let their reputation go to the skids this season. i, for one, am not impressed by pseudo-hooligan posturing. or racism. or streamers.

figure your s*** out, columbus.

Posted by: longfellow | July 20, 2008 10:53 PM "

Hmm, umm, what to say. I was there. I saw the incident. Seen the AP pic? Yeah, dumb tattooed idiot comes rambling into section with some fellows in tow. Gets IN THE FACE of a few Crew supporters. Talks trash. Crew supporters get pissed. Security holds our people back, and goes to escort the fat idiot out of our support section. He and his wanker mates decide to pitch their beers all over our people. Madness ensues. They get escorted out.

The whole point is, that unless you act like an idiot, you are welcome in Crew Stadium. Ask the TFC fans, or any other traveling fans. Do we play around with you? Certainly, but it's all in good fun. But if you bring a fight, there are always going to be some factions who want to fight back. Deal with it. There are morons everywhere, Crew fans, West Ham fans, etc. Nothing can be done except for a higher security presence. But instead, CSC is too busy worrying about who they saw throw a streamer during a goal celebration so they can throw him out (despite being within the league's wishes) rather than keeping the lowlier West Ham fans out of our rabid supporter's section.

So take your silly opinion and stuff it.

Posted by: eboe | July 21, 2008 2:26 AM | Report abuse

@Posted by: gunners4lif | July 20, 2008 9:53 PM

Did you actually read the post? Hammes fans came to the Columbus section; Columbus fans directed mocking chants/songs in their direction (nothing wrong so far) Hammers fans start fight (wrong) Columbus fans stand up for themselves and fight back (nothing wrong with that, you shouldn't sit their while someone is beating the hell out of you)

This is 100% and English problem. Anywhere those low rent, no dental insurance having idiots travel they start fights because they can't hold their liquor.

Far be it for me to defend C-bus fans, but everything I've read and from info on this post, they are 100% in the right and did NOTHING wrong. Mocking opposing fans is expected. Fighting back when someone goes to dukes is merely self preservation.

On a side note, who knew Crew Stadium would become the hardest stadium in MLS? I am sure the MMA crowd who attend OSU will start coming out thinking it's a test of skills to go to a Crew game, their security better stay on the ball.
Oh and it's really time for MLS to make all away fans sit in assigned sections. This isn't the only time this has happened at an MLS game.

Posted by: papa bear | July 21, 2008 5:53 AM | Report abuse

@Posted by: gunners4lif | July 20, 2008 9:53 PM

Did you actually read the post? Hammes fans came to the Columbus section; Columbus fans directed mocking chants/songs in their direction (nothing wrong so far) Hammers fans start fight (wrong) Columbus fans stand up for themselves and fight back (nothing wrong with that, you shouldn't sit their while someone is beating the hell out of you)

This is 100% and English problem. Anywhere those low rent, no dental insurance having idiots travel they start fights because they can't hold their liquor.

Far be it for me to defend C-bus fans, but everything I've read and from info on this post, they are 100% in the right and did NOTHING wrong. Mocking opposing fans is expected. Fighting back when someone goes to dukes is merely self preservation.

On a side note, who knew Crew Stadium would become the hardest stadium in MLS? I am sure the MMA crowd who attend OSU will start coming out thinking it's a test of skills to go to a Crew game, their security better stay on the ball.
Oh and it's really time for MLS to make all away fans sit in assigned sections. This isn't the only time this has happened at an MLS game.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 5:53 AM | Report abuse

Why don't the All-Stars just duke it out? It will be more competitive than playing West Ham

Posted by: bristol | July 21, 2008 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, somewhere in foggy London town, Dougie Brimson chuckles as he opens up his laptop and types the first words of a sequel...

Posted by: EdTheRed | July 21, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

Hard to type these words but well done Crew fans. Gotta defend your house. We did it against the Leon fans way back in the day when nobody cared enough about soccer to put it in the paper. Of course that one was on the genius that decided to put an entire mexican section right next to the Barra.

Posted by: BarraBrava | July 21, 2008 7:20 AM | Report abuse

This is not bad, people. This is the best news EVER!!!!! Who wouldn't want to throw a punch at a Brit with rotting teeth and horrible breath?

That said, I hope those West Ham supporters knock some TFC fans around on Thursday.

USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: Hoost | July 21, 2008 7:49 AM | Report abuse

WHo died and left COlumbus in charge of USA hooliganism?

Posted by: Jack | July 21, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

We are the masters of disaster. We are the terror lords of the MLS. We are the 1# hooligans. We are the "Novios de Las Vacas". The "NLV" will defend our house against all comers. We will sell you used office furniture against your will. You will learn to fear the yellow and black as you have learned to fear the greasy ringlets of franke hejduk.

Posted by: crewzer luvr | July 21, 2008 8:06 AM | Report abuse

It's just a soccer game. Walk away if some nut starts hassling you. Not worth a fight or a possible night in jail for assault charges. Simply walk away and go somewhere else to catch the game. That's all it is, a game that we as fans have no control over. why do people get so worked up over this?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 9:00 AM | Report abuse

I am not one for tagging an entire group, but the evidence is there plain to see: English fans are permanently scarred by a minority group of their lesser inteligent brothers and sisters - the English hooligan. Every soccer nation has it's share of idiots, but the English variety takes the cake. Which is sad for them, because no one wants to be bandied with that bunch of idiots. Remember these kinds of incidents - which continue to negatively impact the perception of the English fan - when the decision goes the other way come World Cup bidding time.

Pitiful, really.

Posted by: Kosh | July 21, 2008 9:03 AM | Report abuse

The only important part of the story is the following:

"Shortly after halftime, West Ham fans unfurled a banner in the stadium's south end that read " ICF, 30 Years Undefeated."

The Inter City Firm, or ICF, is one of the most notorious hooligan groups in England."

Let's see - a group travels all the way across the Atlantic just to cause trouble and some are trying to blame Crew fans???

Get real.

One hopes these thugs don't have tickets at BMO or all hell will break loose, because the Toronto crowd will not be as forgiving as those in Crewville.

Posted by: Zero Tolerance | July 21, 2008 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Gotta say that getting into a fight--no matter who instigated--at a soccer GAME, is one of the: silliest, stupidest, most-moronic, least manly, most inane, most infantile, least intelligent, least respect-garnering, most useless endeavors I've ever heard about. If some idiots yell at you, punching them only makes you an idiot.

Posted by: Laugh@ViolentCowards | July 21, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

if only the new england revolution had been there to restore order....

seriously though, I thought it was dumb as hell when harkes was calling the cbus fans in that corner 'hooligans' on espn last week. Not that the word 'hooligan' has anything to do with this fight (sounds like it was a drunken idiot thing - drunken idiots being the cause of 99% of fights at all sporting events across the world), but I'd rather not hear the word 'hooligan' associated with mls in any sort of non-ironic context.

Posted by: stairs | July 21, 2008 9:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm concerned about the match in Toronto too. Of course these same jacka$$s have tix there too. They don't just come over for one friendly against Columbus. Garber and MLS should find a way to void their tickets or keep them in Cowlumbus lock up through Thursday. Funny thing though, this might make the all star game worth watching.

Posted by: David | July 21, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure Columbus has enough security -- but you can't find them, since they wear the same bright yellow color.

Posted by: RK | July 21, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The Crew and West Ham fans are lucky that Craig Tornberg was not there to regulate. he is bad ass.

Posted by: Naked Guy | July 21, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The United fans would dump sodas on the ICF from the upper deck.

Posted by: PB | July 21, 2008 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Did any of the people involved get arrested? Perhaps the Columbus Police could pass the names of these clowns to the Canadian Border patrol and maybe the Canadians will not let them in? Why would you want people with a recent track record of starting (or even being involved with) trouble at soccer games coming entering your country. Especially when their response to the question "Purpose of your visit?" is "We're going to the MLS All Star soccer game."

Posted by: tsingletonvt | July 21, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

There's you famous...
there's your famous...
there's your famous GSE!

Posted by: Elijah Wood | July 21, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: mizage | July 21, 2008 10:06 AM | Report abuse

I have it on good authority that it all kicked off when the Crew fans told their visitors that Eastenders is sh*t and they much prefer Coronation Street.

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

To those blaming the English, please stop it. It's West Ham. They are a useless club and this is exactly what you should expect from them. There are plenty of good English clubs just like there are plenty of (well, not plenty) bad US clubs. To blame West Ham on England is akin to blaming Columbus on the USA.

In fact, it sounds like the two deserve each other.

Posted by: Kyle | July 21, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

@Kev

What?!?!

Eastenders kills coronation street!!!

Keep disrepectin it and might have to come round and show you what for...

Don't you know that when Phil and Grant's dad proposed to Peggy that it was on the terrace at Upton Park?

:D

Posted by: yankiboy | July 21, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

The important question is did Elijah Wood get arrested?

Posted by: Ameobi | July 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Back to the serious...

The more info that comes out the more it really looks like some thugs travelled a long way and were looking for trouble.

My sincerest apologies to the Crew fans...

I'm not endorsing violent behavior but I make a distinction between genuine self-defense and looking for a fight. Self-defense is a right and a survival mechanism. Of course whenever possible, it is better to try and have security intervene.

The Canucks had better be paying some serious attention and have a security plan. I would really hate to see a similar siutation in TO. That could end even uglier.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 21, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

To those blaming the Crew fans - yeah, someone comes looking to hit you and you just are supposed to let it happen?

We don't know exactly what happened, but the Crew security that let West Ham fans enter the Crew section are first to blame and the West Ham fans are the ones to blame. Maybe the Crew fans threw some lighter fluid on the fire to make things worse, but that is an accellerant, not the instigation.

Posted by: James | July 21, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Man of the match goes to the Crew supporter with the yellow bandanna in the middle of the fracas. He is the calm in the midst of the storm. See kids, it's ok too not be an idiot and fight at sporting events.

Yellow bandanna guy...we salute you.

Posted by: CD | July 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I was at the game sitting one section over from the Crew's supporter's section. This whole situation is getting over blown. I mean, nobody in the stadium thought it was that big of a deal. A fight lasting about 1 minute. This should not be news.

A fight broke out at a sporting event. Big Shocker. This happens almost 16 different times in 32 different cities every Sunday when an NFL team plays.

Posted by: Jeff | July 21, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I forgot to add that maybe us Columbus fans would be less on edge if they would have at least played half of their starting 11. I drove up from Cincy to watch a bunch of USL2 players. That was the real crime.

Posted by: Jeff | July 21, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Boys, are we going to stand for this English aggression? Is the fight over? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

Posted by: Bluto | July 21, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Thought this story needed a bit of balance!

As a Season ticket holder at Upton Park, I can say that West ham have there share of problems in the past, but in reality all of the "hooligans" are now out of action and most in their forties and fifties.

Some of the younger lads I know are still involved in the hoologan element, but tend to keep their activity away from the grounds and almost definately never start trouble in the grounds, due to CCTV policing games so well these days. A lot of them are trying to recreate the atmosphere of days gone by I am afraid though as little happens now.

Do they turn up at Spurs, Chelsea, Millwall - Yep, Ohio? Ermmmmmmm nope.

Sadly, the "Green Street" film was a truly awful depiction of football hooliganism and distorted the facts and what its actually like being a football hoolgan. Trust me, the Hobbit would have been filled in by his own supporters if he he acted like he did in that film!

The problem is that this film has created a band of wannabe "hooligans" across the globe, who are probably the beered up, fat idiots that run around town centres in the UK. Its a shame that they have chosen our club to associate theirselves with as these are typically the people that normally follow Millwall or Tottenham!

If you want to see what real football fans are like, look out for the new "Cass" movie or watch "Football Factory". These are a lot better portrayals of football hooligans in the UK. (You will also see that they never wear colours!!)

Posted by: East London Hammer | July 21, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I would bet someone a small Boardwalk fries that this does not even get mentioned on ESPN's broadcast on Thursday.

Never happened. La la la la la la la - I can't hear you.... la la la la la la la!

Posted by: AM | July 21, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The Crew supporters section is MASSIVE. The West Ham fans were drawn there by its gravitational force.

Posted by: Crew fan | July 21, 2008 1:58 AM
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Really?

Posted by: Andy | July 21, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

@ Andy.

I could be wrong but I realy think the "gravitational" bit was said with tongue planted firmly in cheek, Bro.

Posted by: yankiboy | July 21, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

COLUMBUS TILL I DIE!! COLUMBUS TILL I DIE!! I KNOW I AM, IM SURE I AM, COLUMBUS TILL I DIE!!!

Posted by: curtis | July 21, 2008 6:43 PM | Report abuse

All I have to say is: Columbus is the same city that sets itself on fire and riots after EVERY OSU game (win or lose). What in the world did those West Ham fans think was going to happen? Better do your homework next time you think Columbus fans are not just looking for something to set them off. Right or wrong...Columbus fans are just nuts. West Ham supporters are just lucky its spring break at OSU or it would have gotten really ugly for them...

Posted by: The Duke | July 21, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

...Summer Break...Sorry

Posted by: The Duke | July 21, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"All I have to say is: Columbus is the same city that sets itself on fire and riots after EVERY OSU game (win or lose). What in the world did those West Ham fans think was going to happen? Better do your homework next time you think Columbus fans are not just looking for something to set them off. Right or wrong...Columbus fans are just nuts. West Ham supporters are just lucky its spring break at OSU or it would have gotten really ugly for them...

Posted by: The Duke | July 21, 2008 9:41 PM"

Umm, Duke - that activity is contained to a basically 5 block area of OSU campus. Columbus is a bit bigger than a 5 block area made up of 19-21 year olds who are drunk and away from home for the first time and have no-one telling them what they can or cannot do. They are stupid youth showing that they can do what they want, and burning couches is something people seem to think is cool. Just like they think HAVING old couches on their porches is cool. It's all dumb kid stuff. The brush does not extend to everyone, and those idiots are not usually at Crew games, trust me.

Posted by: eboe | July 22, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

just to let all you americans know that your opinion on english football(aka soccer) is probably one of fans just rioting all the time and that wasnt helped by a few idiot west ham fans but it is far from the truth, yes it happens once or twice but it is a rare thing these days, i am a Middlesbrough supporter and i have never seen any fighting and in most games not only at Middlesbrough but throughout england there isnt even police attending games(stewards at the most). Try Italy now that is a place that is high on hooliganism, you cant get out of a car park without someone cracking a bottle over your head.

Just think of this incident as a few west hams so jubilant that the fact they get out of that dump that is the east end of London and dont paint all English with the same brush

Posted by: Nick Hill | July 22, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

These are the same ****ing idiots that yelled racist taunts.

Kick Columbus scum out of the league.

Posted by: Tyler | July 22, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Take a chill pill everyone. It was a fight at a football match. Having lived in the states for 6 years soccer does lack passion from supporters for the most part. The Argentinian guy got it spot on. And the passion from fans translates directly to the players. I wonder where Amercian soccer would be if all supporters were like Oakland Raiders fans...hmmmn... No-one likes fights but we can see here the passion coming now. Good on Colombus for standing up to the Cockneys. It was good publicity for MLS since no-one got hurt. I'm afraid passion + beer = fights, some people can't control it. Its hard to get one and not the other. that's just the way life is.

Posted by: Mr Green | July 25, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

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