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Morning Kickaround

*Emiliano Diaz, the 25-year-old right-side midfielder from San Lorenzo in Argentina, has arrived in Washington and will begin his trial with D.C. United today.

*A link to the Gallardo-Peralta story.

*New England moved closer to a SuperLiga semifinal berth with a 1-0 victory over Pachuca, thanks to Khano Smith's penalty kick in the seventh minute of added time before just 9,614 at Foxborough. Click here for video of the handball and the PK.

*Chivas USA remained very much in contention with a 1-0 victory over winless Santos Laguna on Ante Razov's 73rd-minute header in front of 16,343 at Home Depot Center. Click here for video of the goal.

MLS's record in SuperLiga is 4-4-0 heading into this weekend's group finales: Houston at DCU and Chivas vs. Atlante in Santa Clara on Saturday, and NE vs. Chivas in Fullerton and Pachuca vs. Santos in Frisco, Tex., on Sunday.

*The Washington Freedom (10-1-1) concluded its W-League home schedule with a 1-0 victory over Long Island (7-3-2) on Christie Welsh's 89th-minute goal at Maryland SoccerPlex.

*This afternoon, the USA men's Olympic team and MLS all-star replacements will be unveiled. The Insider was first to tell you that Michael Parkhurst, Brad Guzan and Brian McBride were at the top of Peter Nowak's overage list. We were also first to report that the MLS all-star spots held by Olympic-bound Parkhurst, Sacha Kljestan and Robbie Rogers will be filled by Steve Ralston, Jonathan Bornstein and Juan Toja. We'll find out soon enough how good my sources really are. ;-)

*Goalkeeper Dominic Cervi, the unsigned Chicago draftee who has spent time in USA national team and Olympic camp, is on trial at Portsmouth.

*MLS tonight: Kansas City (5-5-5) at Columbus (8-5-3), 8 p.m. ET (ESPN).

*Fox Soccer Channel has secured rights to show the Barcelona-Chivas friendly live Aug. 3 from Chicago. Kickoff is 7 p.m. ET.

By Steve Goff  |  July 17, 2008; 9:13 AM ET
 
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Comments

Steve,

Should we read into the lack of playing time in SuperLiga for Cordeiro, Kirk, and others?

Is there a massive gulf in talent on the bench right now with our razor thin roster?

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 17, 2008 9:50 AM | Report abuse

Goff, any word on the severity of the injury to Pat Phelan, whose nasty looking injury (that knocked him out cold) caused all that injury time?

Posted by: jpeace121 | July 17, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Is there anybody on the bench who is an actual central defender right now? Wasn't Martinez original position central defender...He has to be better than burch at this point. And Burch is good out on the left back position.

Posted by: dcchilidog | July 17, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Cordeiro is a novice in international play, Kirk is young and coming off injury. Stratford is hurt. Zaher, Barlow, Murphy, Thorpe aren't ready for this level yet.


Posted by: Goff | July 17, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

The Mexican teams got robbed last night. The Pachuca defender didn't have time to move his arm out of the direction of the cross that resulted in the handball; the ball played him, rather than vice-versa. The Revs deserved a result from their play last night, but that was a bad call.

In the Santos Laguna match, it's very unclear why the tying goal from Santos Laguna got disallowed. Didn't look like offsides to me. Credit announcer Max Bretos for calling a spade a spade: Santos Laguna got robbed. The Chivas keeper played a great match; don't know how he kept a clean sheet (and why we can get a keeper like that, with all the goalkeeping talent in the US).

I'm no backer of Mexican soccer, but the two Mexican teams got robbed last night. Maybe the Superliga organizers wanted to ensure there will be at least one MLS team in the semifinals?

Posted by: Bill in Md. | July 17, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

VBB, is the sky blue?

Posted by: Ron | July 17, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

At one point in the Pachuca goal area, any seen the goal keeper pounding on Rev's guy's head? How can linesman couldn't see that is beyond me.
Chivas USA some horondus players on their roster specially Nagamura sp.
Chivas USA v Chiva in the final would be a great inviting not quality wise but because both own by the same dude.

Posted by: td | July 17, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

If chivas usa plays chivas in the finals, does the owner have to get his head shaved no matter what happens?

Posted by: stairs | July 17, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

I'll 2nd the request for news on Phelan's injury.

Posted by: TB | July 17, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Phelan concussion, taken to hospital for overnight observation

If anything changes, I'll let ya know

Posted by: Goff | July 17, 2008 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Any news about United looking at any forwards or goalies? I hope some moves are made right away.

Posted by: DC United Fan | July 17, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Mexican teams didn't get robbed.

1) NE had a perfectly-executed offsides-trap-breaking free kick called back in the first few minutes. Phelan was on the ground from the 38th minute, so the added time was legitimate. And who cares if the guy didn't have time to move his arm? That's the lamest excuse yet.

2) Santos Laguna's player pulled a Chad Barrett on a breakaway, and even had the new keeper on the ground. Speaking of which, how does the Guzan replacement get a shutout before DCU does all season?

Posted by: RK | July 17, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

@Ron,

Just wondering if anyone else is seeing stuff that I'm not.

I think watching Thompson spasm up and down the sidelines is as painful as seeing Landon Donovan before a PK try.

So, why a Cordeiro and a Kirk doesn't get that time is a little suprising to me.

I know it's my opinion, but Thompson can see some more reserve games first.

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 17, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I dont know if it could be heard on the SuperLiga broadcast, but the Mexican fans at Gillette stadium whistled, cheered, and chanted 'You Suck' as Phelan was down, and being loaded onto a stretcher.

Zero class from the Pachuca fans, a disgusting display. Unacceptable.

Posted by: AndrewK | July 17, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

I understand that Oklahoma-born Dominic Cervi's grandparents were Italian, but I don't believe that he yet has a euro passport. Spending time with the national team (while not yet having a professional career) wouldn't seem enough to be grated a work permit. Is there some other reason that he might get one?

Posted by: Postmaster | July 17, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

I meant the Telefutura broadcast*

Posted by: AndrewK | July 17, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I have to say that I am really impressed with Razov's play this year. He is playing some quality attacking and has always been a fairly consistent player. I have to wonder if Razov's US nation team days are over because the way he has been linking up with Sacha Kljestan is really fun to watch. I would rather see Razov olay forward for the USNT than Johnson anyday lately.

Posted by: Felix | July 17, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Cordeiro is a novice in international play, Kirk is young and coming off injury. Stratford is hurt. Zaher, Barlow, Murphy, Thorpe aren't ready for this level yet.

Posted by: Goff | July 17, 2008 9:53 AM

Then Saturday is a perfect chance to play those who aren't injured and give them experience with the first team, particularly since it's not against an international opponent and is a virtually meaningless game.

Posted by: BillyBob | July 17, 2008 10:42 AM | Report abuse

And who cares if the guy didn't have time to move his arm? That's the lamest excuse yet.
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Isn't that anything but a lame excuse, in terms of official guidance from FIFA types? I'd like to hear from experienced refs on that one.

Posted by: tri-village | July 17, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I just want to emphasize that tonight's game is on BSPN, *not* BSPN2. If you're a creature of habit like many of us, you run the risk of programming your recording devices incorrectly.

Posted by: tri-village | July 17, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Re: Dominic Cervi Trial
It appears he may have played the second half of a friendly between Portsmouth and Exeter allowing the goal in a 1-1 draw. Named only as "Trialist" in an article @ http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cms_ref=news.

Posted by: Postmaster | July 17, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Any call which relies on the referee to judge intent (deliberate handling of the ball in this case) is difficult. It happens in a split second, and the referee has to decide right then whether it was deliberate. In the opinion of this referee, it was.

Posted by: DCU_Rick | July 17, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Is Diaz aware that if he signs with DC in 2008, that as an Argentine, he'd likely require a sports hernia surgery at some point this season?

Posted by: To Munich | July 17, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

If chivas usa plays chivas in the finals, does the owner have to get his head shaved no matter what happens?

Posted by: stairs | July 17, 2008 10:18 AM
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A corollary to that: If Chivas de EEUU plays Chivas de Guadalajara, some genius in sales will ensure that both teams wear their home jerseys.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 17, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Not a bad crowd for Chivas USA.

For once.

Posted by: Ron | July 17, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

It happens in a split second, and the referee has to decide right then whether it was deliberate.
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If it truly happened in a split second, that in itself suggests that it was not deliberate. Think back to what we learned in driver education about human reaction times.

Posted by: tri-village | July 17, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Why the apparent MLS snub Luciano? Sorry if I missed an earlier discussion.

Posted by: Albert Hall | July 17, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

To say the guy couldn't move his arm isn't an excuse. In this case the ball played him, he didn't play the ball. He had his arms near/in front of his body in a natural playing position. The ball was blasted from a short distance away into his arm. Terrible call.

But I also agree that the offside call that denied that little punk Heaps a goal in the first half was also a terrible call. So perhaps in the end the soccer gods arranged justice.

If Santos could have finished a chance in the first half the game would have been put away. The shock in the voices of the announcers when that dude with the breakaway smacked his shot off the crossbar was very funny.

I notice that Carvallo is no longer featured on the game day roster. Does that mean he is basically no longer on the team at this point? He used to participate in the warmups but the last two matches at least it has been Thorpe.

Posted by: Glenn | July 17, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Carvallo released.

Posted by: RK | July 17, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Chivas USA v Chiva in the final would be a great inviting not quality wise but because both own by the same dude.

Posted by: td | July 17, 2008 10:11 AM

Vergara is already on record (sort of) as favoring the Guadalajara Goats:

"Está claro que Chivas va a estar en la final de la SuperLiga 2008 y su rival será Chivas USA; ya en ese encuentro mi favorito será el de Guadalajara, pero estoy seguro de que tendremos una gran final entre nuestros equipos", concluyó con una sonrisa en el rostro.

("It's clear that Chivas is going to be in the final of SuperLiga 2008 and their rival will be Chivas USA; in this encounter my favorite will be Guadalajara, but I'm sure that we will have a grand final between our teams", he concluded with a smile on his face.)

http://www.chivascampeon.com/noticia/4331/

A corollary to that: If Chivas de EEUU plays Chivas de Guadalajara, some genius in sales will ensure that both teams wear their home jerseys.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 17, 2008 11:14 AM

This may have been a tongue in cheek observation, but my guess is that the Carson Goats will end up wearing their solid-blue third jerseys if it happens.

The two Striped Flocks wear different variations on their red and white stripes, different enough to tell apart for the average guy but would definitely cause confusion on the pitch. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 17, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Both of the Pachuca defenders had their arms out to their side (probably not intentional)in the box. First lesson you teach defenders is to keep your hands down to your side on a cross, especially inside the box. The ref had no choice as it stopped a potential cross and scoring oppurtunity.

Posted by: donkey king | July 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

...although, upon further rumination, there is one easy way to tell them apart:

If the jersey says "BIMBO" on the front, it's from Guadalajara. (snarky comments to follow in three...two...one...)

:)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 17, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Glenn,

I like Max Bretos as an announcer. He's not as much a homer as many of the other announcers (e.g. Tony Lamarzi) I hear, and he brings a good level of candor to his work. I also couldn't believe the Santos Laguna striker smacked the crossbar after rounding the keeper.

Most refs in first divisions around the world aren't going to call that handball in the Pachuca-Revs match. If the defender's arms are at his side in a natural playing position, and he's defending the cross, he just doesn't have enough time to get his arm out of the way. His team loses because of a lousy desperate gringo cross.

Posted by: Bill in Md. | July 17, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

The two Striped Flocks wear different variations on their red and white stripes, different enough to tell apart for the average guy but would definitely cause confusion on the pitch. :)

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 17, 2008 11:35 AM :
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Bimbo v Comex. Insert (pun definitely intended) your own joke.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Could anything be worse than that US game a few months ago versus Argentina? There were 22 white shirts out there.

Posted by: RK | July 17, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of which, how does the Guzan replacement get a shutout before DCU does all season?
Posted by: RK | July 17, 2008 10:31 AM
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DCU or Wells got shutout for the Champions Cub against Harbour View FC 5-0 and US Open up 2-0 Chicago. It's in the MLS that DC still hasn't had one.

Posted by: td | July 17, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

It was Rochester, not Chicago that we shut out in the US Open Cup.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 17, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Wasn't there a handball on a cross called in the World Cup that was played in the US? I seem to remember it involving Italy. I think/thought it was the right call then and now.

I pretty much agree that Santos got robbed. Though, their constant whining at correct offsides calls kind of tempers my empathy.

I'm enjoying watching these games (except the DC ones!). I think it's very clear that these teams are all very close. Chivas USA has had the best moments that I've seen of the MLS teams. There's been some shockingly nice flowing play from them. But with Jim Curtain in the back, they're a little exposed.

Posted by: SuperLigaFan | July 17, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Max Bretos unbiased????!!!! Clearly you have never seen Bretos call a Galaxy game on FSC (where he should be neutral) against any other opponent. I cant say that he is better or worse than Limarzi, but I cant imagine a more biased announcer than Bretos.

At least Limarzi is employed *locally* to call games for a local team on local channels. Bretos flagrantly flaunts his LAG biases on a national stage (FSC).

IMO, the reason he was pitying the call against S.L. is b/c, as a Galaxy superhomer, subconsciously he's not jumping up and down to see good things happen to Chivas USA.

I may be taking it too far, but I wouldnt be surprised if that was true.

Posted by: KT | July 17, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Puhleeze! Transplant Razov's brain in Johnson's body and you get a superstar. The international kind, not the Landon Donovan kind.

Don't mess with the goats of Carson.

Posted by: ELAC | July 17, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"'I'm enjoying watching these games (except the DC ones!). I think it's very clear that these teams are all very close.""

Would agree, in part, but I think the teams (in particular United) don't have much to play for as the overall competition is meaningless.

I am, though, looking forward to our version of the Champion's League, which should have some great pairings.

Posted by: delantero | July 17, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I agree with those who say that wasn't an intentional handball in the NE Pachuca game. So game should have been a scoreless draw. However, kudos to NE for playing one of the best Mexican club teams very competitively the whole game with 6 or 7 NE regulars not in the line-up. Shows how deep NE is this year. And a lot of their back-ups are pretty young so bodes well for their immediate future unlike DCU, though I'm a fan of DCU. Regarding the jeers and whistles when Phelan was being treated, incrediblly disgusting behavior and these people want to be or are US citizens? Maybe we have to include in the citizen test, along with basic US history etc, some values questions regarding how to behave at soccer matches.

Posted by: cuzco03 | July 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

"Transplant Razov's brain in Johnson's body and you get a superstar."

Do we have the technology? Can we make him better? Stronger? Faster?

Posted by: SteveAustin | July 17, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Getting a stong sense of 'catch22' as to the rookie reservists getting time! Aren't these the games where they were supposed to get some experience? If not now when? And how can they get ready for this level if they aren't given the opportunity? Cordeiro has gotten some time Carroll a sniff but Thorpe, Barlow, Murphy and Zaher zilch. The last three were 3yr starters for nationally ranked teams that made the Final Four of the Nat'l Championship with Zahers team going on to the Finals. Point being they have played in pressure situations before.
Have seen a number of the Reserve games and these guys certainly deserve at least the respect that has been given to Craig Thompson! Murphy and Zaher are both defenders for Pete's sake! Let's see what they can do.

Posted by: fanx317 | July 17, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

It was Rochester, not Chicago that we shut out in the US Open Cup.
Posted by: | July 17, 2008 11:56 AM
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my bad, that's right.

Posted by: td | July 17, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

An interesting case of "one hand, other hand" from the Columbus Discharge errrr Dispatch (thanks tri-village).

On the one hand, Shawn Mitchell takes a close and interesting look at the Crew's attendance figures so far this year:

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2008/07/17/crew17.ART_ART_07-17-08_C1_O2AP95Q.html?sid=101

On the other hand, there hasn't been a single word said about SuperLiga in the Dispatch's sports section, not even in the agate. It's as if it doesn't exist and those four MLS teams have fallen into a black hole.

Posted by: SportzNut21 | July 17, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

there are alot of mexican teams that use bimbo as there sponser

Posted by: Chris D | July 17, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

I'm with those that think the Mexican teams wound up getting screwed over by the last minute calls. As a ref (with only rec league level experience) I definitely would not have called Pachuca's Manzur for the handball.

What reason was given for calling back Santos last minute equalizer? I thought they called a pretty questionable offside (on a player who wasn't involved) but the player that headed it in was clearly onsides.

New England is winning ugly. Unlike DC United, we lose with style!

Posted by: garbaggio | July 17, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

@ Goff:
Would it be fair to interpret the absence of United players on the All-Star roster as a snub by the coach? For example, Angel v. Emilio or Rogers v. Gallardo - in terms of production, I don't see a good justification other then that.

Posted by: Carnack the Curious | July 17, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

It is pretty pathetic that New England had only 9000 fans to watch a meaningful game in Super Liga. In Portland Tuesday night, the Portland Timbers had the same amount of fans to watch a meaningless Exhibition between the Timbers and Tigris. You should be embarrased Rev fans. You guys are approaching Red Bull fans as the most apathetic in all of MLS.

Posted by: Furball | July 17, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

To all those who are shocked, dismayed, angry, etc. at the New England attendance, consider the fact the the Revolution had minimal (at-best) advertising for this game. In addition, we have never had good attendance on a weeknight throught our history - traffic concerns being the most notable of reasons.

Blame the Revs front office, not the fans.

Posted by: Beantown33 | July 18, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

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