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The Good, The Bad, The Coyote Ugly

THE GOOD

*46,000-plus at Giants Stadium -- more than the three previous home games combined -- to watch another stirring match between the Red Bulls and Galaxy.
*The Revs beat two Mexican clubs at home and then earn a tie on the road against Chivas USA to reach the SuperLiga semis with the most points among the eight participants.
*Dallas improving to 16-1-6 when Kenny Cooper scores and 11-0-3 in its last 14 home games with Colorado, a seven-year stretch.
*Dave van den Bergh's 35 30-yarder.
*Toronto 5-0-4 at home with two goals conceded.
*Christian Gomez's one-touch cross to set up on Conor Casey's equalizer.
*Brad Davis's set pieces during Houston's 3-1 SuperLiga victory at DCU.
*Landon Donovan's fortuitous equalizer in added time at New York.
*Francis Doe's third goal in four games for DCU. Why can't New York get guys like that? ;-)
*Joe Cannon preserving San Jose's road point with several saves, including a PK stop on Amado Guevara.
*Juan Pablo Angel's elegant, go-ahead goal.
*Nick Rimando's reflex work to shut out Chicago. Why can't DCU get goalies like that? ;-)
*Edson Buddle's work that set up Carlos Ruiz's goal.
*Bobby Boswell scoring against his former club.

THE BAD

*The combined record of the Western Conference's top four teams is 24-26-18.
*Four league matches, four ties.
*Dallas is 0-1-3 since Schellas Hyndman was named coach.
*New England will face Atlante in the SuperLiga semifinals. When they met four months ago during the Revs' preseason trip to Mexico, there were nine yellow cards and three reds.

THE COYOTE UGLY

*United loses three straight -- all at home -- and quietly departs the SuperLiga. The club is 1-5-1 in two years of SuperLiga play.
*For the third time, Toronto plays a 0-0 tie in a Saturday afternoon home game.
*C.J. Brown's red card for dissent while warming up beyond the endline.
*Columbus and West Ham supporters rumble during a friendly. MLS rules that the Crew must play its next home game in an empty stadium. Nonetheless, attendance is announced as 11,548.

That's it. So what'd I miss?

By Steve Goff  |  July 21, 2008; 10:00 AM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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Comments

re: "MLS rules that the Crew must play its next home game in an empty stadium."

Columbus playing in an empty stadium. Now there is an idea!

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to know how 15 West Ham fans charging 10 rows down into the Columbus Supporter's Section, throwing beers and punches, while Crew Stadium Security watches, is the fan's fault?

Posted by: BG | July 21, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Donovan's goal was a Coyote-ugly HOWLER from the goalkeeping perspective.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

My son is still unhappy that Rimando is gone. At this point, I am too.

Rimando, Gomez, Pridoeux... I'd take all three back right now.

I think Chest Rockwell needs to send his resume to Dallas. They need him.

Posted by: Joe Doc | July 21, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Maybe the empty stadium is more of a penalty for the team for having poor security staff than it is for having wannabe hooligan fans.

Posted by: Glenn | July 21, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I never did understand trading Rimando. Actually, I didn't understand benching Rimando, although Perkins proved to be a pretty good replacement. Nicky may be short, but he's a heckuva 'keeper.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 21, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Glenn, I think Goff's reference to the empty stadium penalty was a joke. Almost every Crew home game is played in a virtually empty stadium.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight: MLS is ruling that Columbus will play a game without all those free-loading fans? Given the costs of distributing all those tickets, this might save the team some money. Of course, the real penalty is supposed to be against the fans....and it it does sound that there might be a drastically different side to this story. Too bad the West Ham can't be penalized for its supporters here. By Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you will be avenged!!

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 21, 2008 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Wait... they seriously have to play in front of NO ONE? How humiliating.

And attendance will miraculously be somewhere around 8,000.

Posted by: kevin | July 21, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Goff,

What did you miss? The hugely important passes that started some of those goals -- Rojas made an incredibly nifty pass to set up van den Bergh and showed great vision and touch in leading Angel on his goal, while Beckham made an excellently placed ball over the defense to start Buddle off on his run.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | July 21, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Just watched CJ Brown's red card incident.

What I found of interest was how Blanco caused the foul by falling over Kovalenko's legs. Dema had all ball until Blanco positioned himself between the Mad Ukranian's legs. Given that the ball was going over the end line, Blanco had nothing to lose.

Brilliantly done. But I still dislike the guy immensely.

Posted by: Joe Doc | July 21, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

See how Blanco went out of his way to jump on top of Kovalenko's legs to get the call?

Good: Another DCU goal from a corner! Jorge Rojas making an instant impact.
Bad: Energie NY finds another to blow a game...
Coyote Ugly: whoever was the defender on the great JPA goal makes Xavier look good.

Posted by: RK | July 21, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

I think Chest Rockwell needs to send his resume to Dallas. They need him.

Posted by: Joe Doc | July 21, 2008 10:30 AM
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This would be a great loss to us, as his comments would then be limited to:
- we are going to take each game day-by-day
- go out and give 100% and dig deep for more
- we feel that this is our year
- acquiring [insert over-the-hill Euro name] would add an extra dimension to the team

RE: Donovan's goal. A perfectly executed header dummy froze the goalkeeper.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 21, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

On the bright side for DCU...
Francis Doe seems to have found his scoring touch and seems to work well with Emilio up top. This has got to be viewed as a positive for the attack giving a solid 3rd option with Emilio and Moreno.

Feel bad for CD Guadalajara losing their #1 GK for the season during this silly SuperLiga tournament. If DC United were sitting 3-0-0 after pool play we may not be calling it a silly competition - although with Goff revealing the pay-out plan for MLS sides the Players Union should make some sort of stand before next year.

SuperLiga is over for DCU and I'm glad; synopsis: looked decent in attack with a rag-tag line-up but unable to finish chances; had absolute failure in defense and GK (WOW!!); worst yet is going 0-3 on home turf!!

Posted by: Redd | July 21, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

We cannot afford to lose Chest Rockwell, even to a lowly Western Conference side. Whatever his salary demands are, pay them.

...Even if it means trading for a DP slot.

Posted by: B.A. | July 21, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Zach Wells name should be in there

Posted by: Diggs | July 21, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

*Columbus and West Ham supporters rumble during a friendly. MLS rules that the Crew must play its next home game in an empty stadium. Nonetheless, attendance is announced as 11,548.

Ha, well played Steve

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Rimando was injured. Perkins stepped and performed very well. Won Keeper of the year award. So then DC has to choose between benching the keeper of the year or paying Rimando lots of money to warm the bench. They made the right decision to let Rimando go and kept Perkins.

Posted by: Bart | July 21, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly: whoever was the defender on the great JPA goal makes Xavier look good.

You didn't recognize that "defending" from last season? That was Greg Vanney.

Posted by: Rich C | July 21, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

We may not care about SupaLiga but losing 3 matches in a row at HOME should be a cause for concern. Especially since we are stuck with this same backline for the next 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: Bart | July 21, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Seriously... empty stadium for Columbus? I would hope MLS is stamping it's authority on an issue that matters.

There is no need for more bad publicity from Columbus fans for this league.

Posted by: Phillip | July 21, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Some of our reader friends can be very slow on the joke uptake

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Bart, did you really expect DCU to win Sat. Night with its "C" team out there against Houston?

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Punishing Columbus by making them play in an empty stadium is like punishing someone by making them breathe nothing but a mixture of 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, and 0.038% carbon dioxide for an entire day.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

That Van den Bergh goal was great. But it was not from 35 yards out. More like 25.

That JPA goal is about as good as it gets in MLS, I think.

Posted by: Dave Nelson | July 21, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Goff - please tell me that United will have a much stronger starting lineup for tomorrow night's game.

For next year's Supercup (if it happens), MLS should definitely choose four teams that are NOT in the CONCACAF Champions League. Spread the extra regional games around the entire league - it will be better for the league as a whole.

Posted by: SSMD | July 21, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

*Francis Doe's third goal in four games for DCU. Why can't New York get guys like that? ;-)
By Steve Goff | July 21, 2008; 10:00 AM ET

Zzzzzzzzzz. Wake me when he scores in MLS.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: JayRockers! | July 21, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Columbus-West Ham incident hits AP/ESPN home page, no surprise there!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=556405&sec=mls&cc=5901

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

[...] a mixture of 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, and 0.038% carbon dioxide...

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 11:28 AM
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You just described the majority of Columbus' season ticket holders.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 21, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"*Bobby Boswell scoring against his former club."

Maybe I missed the memo, but in what way is this "Good?" The Washington Post is still a DC paper, right?

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Perkins did perform well. Rimando performed better. We just decided to free up money and kept Perkins. When he left, Troy still did not have pre or post season play figured out. He was better in season. Nick had it all. When we won our last MLS in 04 they turned to Nick for the win and the last part of the season. I would like either of them back. I know Troy and Wells isn't even close.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Another comment. I was at Crew Stadium just after Nick Rimando got hurt in NY. We were a group of 5. Got there late and I couldn't identify our goalie - it was Baumstart. It was a 1-1 tie. The stadium was filled to capacity and everyone was talking, watching and having fun. They didn't always have the reputation they are getting now. We all had an enjoyable time. We have been to Giant Stadium in New York twice. The fans up there are nice as can be to an out-of-town couple.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"What did I miss?"

I think you missed the point that most of the readers of this blog are DC United fans. Brad Davis's free kicks that result in goals against United are not considered "good".

Posted by: Tommie | July 21, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

*Four league matches, four ties.
====================================

Five, including Thursday.

Posted by: tri-village | July 21, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Tuesday... no Gallardo, Peralta, Tino. Burch experiment at CB failed... sounds like a good time for a 3-5-2.

-----------------Wells------------------
Namoff---------McTavish------------Burch
-----------Simms------Martinez----------
Thompson------------------------Cordeiro
-----------------Fred-------------------
------------Moreno---Emilio-------------

Posted by: AlecW81 | July 21, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Francis Doe's third goal in four games for DCU. Why can't New York get guys like that? ;-)
By Steve Goff | July 21, 2008; 10:00 AM ET

Zzzzzzzzzz. Wake me when he scores in MLS.

Thx,

Jay!

Posted by: JayRockers! | July 21, 2008 11:32 AM

*****************************************

The last 5 games have been either Open Cup or SuperLiga so it would be hard for him to score "in MLS".

Doe sucked in the first Open Cup against Rochester - maybe because of jet lag after finally finding his passport and coming back from WC qualifying with Liberia. But he's been pretty good since then and was one of the bright spots of our recent non-league play.

We've gotten some useful knowledge out of the last 3 weeks of non-league play:

Keep Gonzalo Martinez in the middle and Marc Burch on the left.
Francis Doe could be a decent 3rd forward option.
Zach Wells is capable of some good games but will still be criticized for them.
We play better with Gallardo (and probably Peralta, too).
Most of our reserve players (Thompson, Dyachenko, Cordeiro, Pat Carrol, Kirk, Zaher) still don't deserve to start regularly but they got some seasoning and, if needed, they can fill in and hopefully not hurt the team.

Posted by: garbaggio | July 21, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Almost through. The only stadium that was the pitts was the Rose Bowl. We all got there a bit late. Tried to pick up our tickets and had to bang on their gate. The only person interested was the scalper who was trying to sell me his tickets. We finally got in, got the tickets, 5 min to end time. Sat down in an empty section. Got moved to another one. Scalper was sitting there. Lalas played for KC at the time.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly: People that can't appreciate quality soccer, even if it comes at the expense of "your" team

Posted by: RK | July 21, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Some of our reader friends can be very slow on the joke uptake

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 11:24 AM

Maybe we can sell them a bridge in Brooklyn (or Columbus) and use the proceeds to fund some new acquisitions.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Coyote Ugly: People that can't appreciate quality soccer, even if it comes at the expense of "your" team

Posted by: RK | July 21, 2008 12:09 PM
__________________________
"Appreciate" is one thing, but "celebrate" is quite another.

Posted by: schmuckatelli | July 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

-----------------Wells------------------
Namoff---------McTavish------------Burch
-----------Simms------Martinez----------
Thompson------------------------Cordeiro
-----------------Fred-------------------
------------Moreno---Emilio-------------

Posted by: AlecW81 | July 21, 2008 12:05 PM

Martinez clearly does not want to play center back (now we can argue that he NEEDS to). I certainly don't see him playing in front of a back 3 either. We need another central defender badly.

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I swear Angel ROASTED Vanney so bad, he's still on fire. That was sick. The Review Committee needs to review the tape on that play and severely fine and ban JPA for destroying a fellow player like that!

Posted by: Kosh | July 21, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

We have been to Giant Stadium in New York twice. The fans up there are nice as can be to an out-of-town couple.

Posted by: | July 21, 2008 11:58 AM

Not to me. I was mauled by 4 drunk Red Bull twits. Luckily, two of my friends ran over and we managed to send them away.(With a little help from a friendly usher of course.) :)

Posted by: United fury | July 21, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances in the next year that someone in MLS makes an offer to Rafa Marquez?

Coyote Ugly for me will be Chivas USA's fan support. I feel really badly for those players giving all they've got in front of NO ONE!

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 21, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

For Boswell, scoring a goal against his former team is a good thing.

Davis's set pieces were of top quality, no matter who you're supporting.

This is not DCU's official blog and website. I'd like to think we offer wider perspective.

Posted by: Goff | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

That cross by Gomez was sweet. Too bad we don't see more from Christian. It's hard to get him involved when the defense is constantly passing up the midfield with 40 yard boots.

Posted by: ClavijoNeedsToGo | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

VBB you are all too right about Chivas fan support. They have some good players out there, and Preki is not a bad coach, but as a franchise Chivas USA is DEAD. Re-branding and relocation is in the offing for them sooner rather than later. Montreal, you want a team? I think MLS has one. Cheap.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

You could get the Christian Gomez wall clock that was on sale around Xmas. Hang it up and you will see him every day. They might still have some. Call the guy who stocks DC's store.

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

For Boswell, scoring a goal against his former team is a good thing.

Davis's set pieces were of top quality, no matter who you're supporting.

This is not DCU's official blog and website. I'd like to think we offer wider perspective.


Posted by: Goff | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM

It's not, maybe I'm in the wrong blog but most of your articles are dedicated to dc united

Posted by: I don't get it | July 21, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Chivas is Jorge Vergara. Not because he runs the team wrong, no he already did that and ceded that until there are enough Mexican-Americans at the professional level, he can't really have Chivas in the USA (which really makes you wonder, what's the value of the brand then, since Chivas = Mexico - or what's that brands value in China of all places??)

You can't make them a team that doesn't field anyone other than Americans - like Saprissa and their domestic only ideas. I'm sure that would offer no competitive advantage, some US labor group would look into it's practices, and well the NASL had the US National team as a franchise (right?).

SO - does Vergara cede Los Angeles and his US Branding partner and allow Gillet to bring the team north to Montreal? Would Steve Nash like to move the team to Vancouver for the Pacific NW rivalry? Would InBev like to help out St. Louis? Or is this team that finally gets the NYC proper location?

All-in-all, something drastic has to be done.

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | July 21, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Can fans be in the parking lot when they're banned from the stadium? I could see a bunch of Crew fans hanging out in the parking lot of Crew Stadium during the "empty" match.

Posted by: Josh | July 21, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

It's not, maybe I'm in the wrong blog but most of your articles are dedicated to dc united

Posted by: I don't get it | July 21, 2008 1:21 PM

C'mon - it was a meaningless match that was made even more meaningless with Clark's goal. Boz is a good egg and well liked around here, even by the homers. Well done to him for getting a goal and (from the sounds of it) playing pretty well of late.

Posted by: Kev | July 21, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

C.J. Brown sent off for dissent when he isn't even on the field? Now I can see why Gomez got mad at his (buttocks) a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Yeen! | July 21, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

That cross by Gomez was sweet. Too bad we don't see more from Christian. It's hard to get him involved when the defense is constantly passing up the midfield with 40 yard boots.


Posted by: ClavijoNeedsToGo | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM

I was amazed by Colorado's repeated long stretches of bypassing Gomez. Not to mention that most of those stupid long balls went to no one in particular.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Sorry this is all in response form.

Joe Doc:

If Dallas hired me, I would go old school and bring back either the WM formation or the 235. I would also oblige my players to wear caps, encourage smoking, and use no substitutes under any circumstance. And 270 is wrong. I would do my very best Ray Hudson impression to the media. Does MLS allow coaches to drink on the bench?

AlecW81:

In a vacuum, going to a 352 might work. However, McTavish's recent form means he can't be trusted to play in the center. Martinez is the fit player on the team that I'd trust in that spot right now, but I don't think that's his best spot either. I think a change to a back three will just magnify the lack of good center backs in this United squad.

garbaggio:

I think you are, for the most part, dead on about what we've learned. I think we can scale our reserves, with Thompson and Cordeiro (mostly if we're losing...he plays too far up to help defensively as a wide player) can come into real games and not embarrass themselves. Dyachenko as an attacking midfielder should never happen again, but as a forward he might be able to reach that Thompson/Cordeiro category (think about it: Dyachenko's main weakness is decision making, and as a forward his decisions would be much less harmful than they are when he's the playmaker). Kirk actually did an alright job in a game that was essentially dead on Saturday, and not just because he hit that banger off the post. I really hope Soehn and co. can harness his obvious athletic gifts into something more than a reserve team regular.

***

How about this for Coyote Ugly: Bretos calling Donovan's fluke goal against NY a "wonder goal". I would have thought that even the most devoted Galaxy fan would be able to admit that was a cross that accidentally found its way into the goal, but I have underestimated Galaxy superfan Max Bretos once again.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | July 21, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This is not DCU's official blog and website. I'd like to think we offer wider perspective.


Posted by: Goff | July 21, 2008 12:54 PM


Good job Goff. I think that point was obvious.

You're still the bestest blogger there is. Even if your your skin is Wilbon thin.

Posted by: Ives | July 21, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Well, it was a wonder that it went in...

Posted by: RK | July 21, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Alec...

Burch is not a back in a three man back line... or at least not as effective.


My guess
is Namoff, McTavish, P. Carrol, Gonzo M.

Thompson, Simms, Burch
Moreno

Doe, Emilio


Thanks to overusing him the last 8 games I don't think McTavish should be left exposed as a single back. Hopefully he's gotten his legs back under him, becasue he is a smart player and a good organizer. Carrol looked decent. I suppose if they wanted to start Martinez on the right and Burch at left back they could move Namoff to the middle too.

Being able to start Martinez and Moreno should make a big difference IMHO. That and working on set piece deffending and getting some rest.


Tuesday... no Gallardo, Peralta, Tino. Burch experiment at CB failed... sounds like a good time for a 3-5-2.

-----------------Wells------------------
Namoff---------McTavish------------Burch
-----------Simms------Martinez----------
Thompson------------------------Cordeiro
-----------------Fred-------------------
------------Moreno---Emilio-------------

Posted by: AlecW81 | July 21, 2008 12:05 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | July 21, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

MLS penalizing Columbus is a joke of the highest order. Is it to make themselves look legitimate in the eyes of West Ham and the EPL in general? Would they react the same way if it was Dallas and RSL punching out? Doubtful. Pull down your skirt Garber, your slip is showing.

Posted by: BarraBrava | July 21, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Or Sullivan saying Conway got a yellow card for an "innoculous" comment. Guess he was "needling" the ref.

Posted by: Karen | July 21, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Well played, Karen.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | July 21, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"That Van den Bergh goal was great. But it was not from 35 yards out. More like 25."

The distance doesn't matter. What matters is the Rojas assist, one of the most Cruyff-like moves on US soil since the man himself ran the show for the Dips.

I don't tend to be optimistic about my Donks, but Rojas could well turn this season around. We'll see how the other signings work out.

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | July 21, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

The Bad: Few people getting Goff's joke.

Posted by: sitruc | July 21, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay, because these people drive me nuts:

* There is no empty stadium policy. It was joke by Goff based on how some teams overseas are punished for violence, to set up the punchline that they still managed to report healthy attendance.

* Columbus fakes it attendance numbers, as evidenced in a COlumbus Dispatch series last week,citing internal documents showing they average less than 10,000 per game actually attending.

Pylons. The whole freakin' lot of ya. Go read a book, would you?

Incidentally, why move Chivas when they're outdrawing Columbus? Hell, KC is almost outdrawing Columbus in a clapped-out baseball stadium. Couple that with the fact that Columbus is a less-than-prominent destination/grade c large city, and "first sss" notwithstanding, it's the Crew who should move.

The Columbus Few: empty seats, and occasionally empty heads.

Posted by: jloome | July 21, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

I've got an idea--let's move the teams that have proven that they can't make money because they can't get a stadium built.

That would be DC United.

Columbus makes money. They play in a SSS so they control revenue streams. I wouldn't expect you to understand the economics of sports, but seriously, Columbus is making money as an organization (able to use the stadium to generate revenue from concerts) and meanwhile DC is still playing in old RFK, losing money game after game.

Oh yeah, Columbus is also a good team, and doesn't consistently embarrass MLS in int'l competitions, either.

Posted by: johnny | July 21, 2008 9:01 PM | Report abuse

jloome--you are a complete moron if you are basing which teams should move based solely on attendance.

Columbus just got more on a Thursday night, over 16,000, then KC or San Jose will be getting for the next few YEARS, at least.

And 16,000 in a stadium you own is a very profitable business plan. Heck, 10,000 in a SSS is profitable. 23,000 in a rented stadium is not profitable and 10,000 in a rented minor league baseball stadium is absurdly unprofitable.

PS I'm sorry that Crew handed DC their asses when they played in RFK earlier this year.

Posted by: johnny | July 21, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

The Crew playing in a near empty stadium week after week after week despite being a good team makes them, and by extension MLS, a laughingstock. Who cares if they are making a $3.00 annual profit by renting out their high school stadium to tractor pulls. The Crew probably should move, They have flopped in Columbus, and the locals have given up on them and are not coming back as paying customers. If they dont move, maybe the crew should be the first MLS team to be relegated to a minor league more befitting their crowd size. MLS does not need franchises no one gives two rips about, and such do NOTHING for the growth of the game in this country.

Posted by: Ron | July 21, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Not intending to be hung up on the LoTG, however, CJ was surely sent off for Foul and Abusive language. At the professional level, I can assure you those refs are not thin skinned & CJ earned his walking papers/plastic.

Posted by: Jim | July 22, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

Oh yeah, Columbus is also a good team, and doesn't consistently embarrass MLS in int'l competitions, either.

Posted by: johnny | July 21, 2008 9:01 PM

That would be because Columbus doesn't actually PLAY in international competition. Ever.

Once?

Posted by: viv | July 22, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Seriously... empty stadium for Columbus? I would hope MLS is stamping it's authority on an issue that matters.

There is no need for more bad publicity from Columbus fans for this league.

Posted by: Phillip | July 21, 2008 11:23 AM

Wait, wait. Columbus has fans? Since when?

Posted by: GoUnited | July 22, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

@Ron - Actually the tractor pulls are held next to the stadium at the state fairgrounds :-)

Posted by: Brian | July 22, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

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