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*Honduras has changed its mind and decided not to bring in Ivan Guerrero for the two upcoming World Cup qualifiers.

Here is what happened: Honduras formally requested Guerrero and was hoping he would arrive at training camp next Monday. But because of United's U.S. Open Cup final on Wednesday at RFK, he was not planning to join the national team until Thursday at camp in Miami prior to next Saturday's match vs. Canada in Montreal. (The FIFA rule is 48 hours in advance.) Honduras decided it wasn't worth bringing him in so late and told him this morning that he is no longer wanted. So Guerrero will remain with United and be available for next Saturday's match at San Jose.

*Marcelo Gallardo and Fred trained on the side this morning, while Francis Doe and Ben Olsen participated in full workouts. Jeff Carroll is out again after breaking a bone in his foot during Tuesday's reserve match. Gonzalo Peralta and Zach Wells did not practice.

On Olsen, Coach Tom Soehn said: "We've been suiting him up; I don't necessary think it's with an idea of playing. He is stretching one to two to three training sessions together. Some days are better than others, but we haven't been able to do that through the course of his injury at all. ... Hopefully three days in a row of training turns to a week and then maybe a week turns to two weeks. Soccer fitness is something we will have to work on -- that takes time -- but as long as we see improvements, that's a real positive."

Said Olsen: "If you watched me run out there, I don't know if I would say it is full training. Some days are better than others. I seem to be feeling good every other day right now. The thing we are watching is: Is this thing getter better? Is it going to be worse as I stay on it? Or is this where I am going to be at this level? Right now I don't think I am 100 percent game ready, that's for sure, but it is nice to get out there and think about the game a little bit more and be part of the team in that way."

Soehn, on Gallardo: "He's been training, he's getting closer. Again, game fitness is always an issue. We are going to have to evaluate and ease him into things."

Soehn, on Doe: "To go 90 minutes would be near impossible, but he's going to be factored in for possible minutes."

So in summary, don't expect to see Gallardo, Olsen, Fred or Peralta on the field, but Doe seems to be a late-game option.

How would you like to see DCU's starting lineup tomorrow?

By Steve Goff  |  August 29, 2008; 12:29 PM ET
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So many times this season good news (Guerrero staying, players back in training) is tempered by bad news (Carroll's foot).

I anticipate a USOC win, followed by an off-season training regimen with calcium supplements to prepare for all those tournaments next season.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | August 29, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Jeff Carroll being out is hardly a big deal. The dude isn't a regular. I feel bad for him, but he's not one of our key players.

Posted by: Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse


Any news on the guys are trial? Is anyone impressing?

Posted by: me | August 29, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Keeping an eye on the Open Cup, Charleston is playing tonite so we should be able to play a best 11 tomorrow and be rested enough for Wednesday. Not sure if the 352 will work better against the Scum than the 442. Available players look better in the 352.

Posted by: JMR | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Goff, how does Guerrero feel about not playing with his national team? Do you sense he's feeling any resentment? Relief?

Posted by: Dan in FL | August 29, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Depending on what New York does, I'd prefer to see:









Thompson's not the best pick for the wing, but I like the concept of a little consistency.

Posted by: TCompton | August 29, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse


Any word on Mediate? How is he coming along?

Posted by: Brandon | August 29, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

was this Ivan's choice to, in essence, pick the US Open Cup over a cap in a qualifier? cause that's an impressive choice to make.

Posted by: northzax | August 29, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

So if Wells didn't practice, does that mean he's updating his resume...?

Posted by: Juan-John | August 29, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I think Wells is recovering from a knock of some kind.

Posted by: peridigm | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted this in the other thread but charleston is on fsc tonight if you want a usoc final preview. The pigman says ur welcome.

Posted by: pigman sweet | August 29, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

No disrespect to Honduras but they won't qualify anyway so why waste Guerrero travelling beside a little paycheck.
Carroll none factor so no big deal but hope he gets better so there will be a future for him.
Big dissapointment is Peralta is still out and possibily Gallardo and even Fred!

Posted by: td | August 29, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Gallardo won't be playing!

Is that even news anymore? He is going through the world's longest hernia surgery recovery, maybe in 2011 he will be "fit" to play on the field. Most likely he will tear a muscle in his pinkie finger and have to miss out an additional 2-3 seasons.

And Peralta still out with a hamstring injury? Did he injure it during his hernia operation? Are we still sending players to see this German doctor? Sounds like a guy with an operating table in some back ally of East Berlin.

The fact that our players can’t stay healthy during the “light” period of our schedule is not good news for September and October when we will actually need people on the field two times a week.

Old man Moreno and old man Martinez can’t carry this team for two+ months by themselves.

Posted by: news? | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Or perhaps they are being saved for the heavy part of our schedule......
NY Energy Drink presents a challenge but the squad that beat Col should be able to handle them at home.
Important to get some folks like Gallardo some minutes in lead up to USOC and CONCACAF. And try to keep them healthy for the duration of Champ Lg and rest of MLS. No use closing the barn door now.....just get them back into shape and get the guys working together again.

Posted by: marksman | August 29, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

"Old Man" Moreno's been carrying this team all year long...

Posted by: ShowSomeRespect | August 29, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

TD, I think the Catrachos will make it to the hexagon, and from there, anyone can make it to the World Cup Finals.

Northzax, I'd think the Guerrero would give his left arm to play with the Catracho team. The choice between being the hero to millions of his compatriots versus winning a tournament that maybe tens of thousands of people know about is a pretty easy one to make! (no disrespect to the US Open Cup, which I hope one day has a higher visibility)

Posted by: Bill in Md. | August 29, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Wearing your countries colors is the biggest honor a player can receive. The chances of qualifying doesn't factor into the eqaution.

Posted by: Chico | August 29, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Namoff McT Martinez
Thompson Vide Simms Guerrero
Moreno Luci

This lineup has looked the best of every variation we've played without Gallardo and Fred. We actually generated decent chances while being fairly composed on defense.

Posted by: Matte | August 29, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Can McTavish "man up" on Angel? I think a 3 man backline might work better because Vide and Simms might be able to clog up the midfield and Thompson and Guerrero could defend the wings and deny Angel service.

Posted by: griffin1108 | August 29, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with:





I think it is good to have Burch on the field for free kicks, especially without Gallardo.

Posted by: JAP | August 29, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"How would you like to see DCU's starting lineup tomorrow?"

In a ditch?

Posted by: Mastodon Juan | August 29, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

At RM, Thompson hustles a lot but I do not see much else in his game at this point in his career - he turns the ball over too much and then results to just making back pass after back pass. Kirk seems like a decent option with his pace but Soehn's seems to have him locked in as a late forward sub.

Posted by: Roger Van Gool | August 29, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Following Mastodon Juan:

"How would you like to see DCU's starting lineup tomorrow?"


Posted by: B.A. | August 29, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

oh, I know it seems like he'd prefer to get the cap, but it doesn't seem like he was willing to annoy DCU enough to do it. he could have played 90 tomorrow and gotten on a plane to Miami if he'd really wanted to. As much as we like him, he's not THAT key to DCU's chances of success on Wednesday night, not as key as say, Jaime is.

the question is, was this his decision to play WEdnesday and then leave, or did the club refuse to let him go?

Posted by: northzax | August 29, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Marcelo Gallardo=Carl Pavano

Posted by: Lloyd Heilbrunn | August 29, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse


Peralta picked up the hamstring strain because he had been out for a few weeks and then had to play 90 minutes due to the fact that so many other people were out. You could say the hernia, because it kept him inactive, contributed to the hamstring strain. The surgery, however, had nothing to do with it.


Soehn has a tricky decision to make this week. The team did well out of the 3412 last week, but there was little choice going into that game due to Burch's suspension.

I think we'll go back to the 442, it would be Burch at CB and Martinez on the left. Martinez is the only player we have that has a prayer if he gets caught in a footrace with Dane Richards, who is usually a thorn in our side. Burch's height would make Angel's life more difficult. This would also give Guerrero the chance to isolate Leitch or Freeman (Osorio always plays 5 in midfield, but just as reliably plays only 1 forward away), and I like our chances in that particular 1v1 matchup.

NY is coming in without any injuries, in good form, and with high confidence. I have a hunch that the first goal in this one will be even more important than usual. Osorio knows that we have too many injuries to claim much depth, so if the Red Bulls can get to the hour mark with a draw or lead on the board, it will play into their hands. We can't afford to let the game stay up for grabs as long as we did against the Rapids, who thankfully were too inept to do much other than defend.

This is a critical game for us. With Chicago playing at Houston, we could get within 1 point of 3rd place. Meanwhile, a win could leave the gap between us 5-7 points ahead of the best team out (it can't go up to 8 due to the Chivas-Toronto game). If we're going to have any hope of doing well in both MLS and CONCACAF, we're going to need to get a cushion in MLS so we can afford to rest guys like Moreno.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | August 29, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Please no Burch in the middle . . . please!!

Posted by: Greenbelt United | August 29, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Goff - would you mind commenting on the Ives report that MLS blocked a $200K transfer of a USL player to the Red Bulls?

Posted by: Joe | August 29, 2008 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Are we still sending players to see this German doctor? Sounds like a guy with an operating table in some back ally of East Berlin.

Posted by: news? | August 29, 2008 1:29 PM

This is what the Post reported about her last month:

"The specialist, Ulrike Muschaweck, is surgical chief at Hernia Center Munich and has performed a breakthrough procedure that has allowed injured MLS players and other athletes to return to competition in significantly less time than in the past."

Posted by: The Jeff | August 29, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

honestly, it seems like some bunk surgery, or these Argies are lost causes with the rehab.
I guess it's not protocol to put guys on stationary bicycle to maintain fitness? That seems like a poor call. maintaining aerobic fitness would seem crucial to playing a full 90 minutes in a professional soccer match. HOw many guys do, actually do any thing other than juggling around the stupid ball? The Revs, and the Dynamo? Get in the game pipsqueek!
While they are at it, have them rock some curls. These soccer nerds need to get ripped and fit to win anything.

Posted by: dadryan | August 30, 2008 12:11 AM | Report abuse

hit the weights, or hit your wife I always say...
just kidding dudes, I am questioning these guys training practices though for sure.
Do people think Lampard looks the way he does because he sits around crossing his fingers he's going to be the man of the match?
Get Olsen hitting the heavy bag and he'll forget all about how much his ankles hurt...
By the way when is his kid due?

Posted by: dadryan | August 30, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Do you think DC United can win the US Treble -- USOC, MLS Cup, CONCACAF Champions League?

Posted by: Brokenbil | August 30, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Sure Brokenbil, why not?

DISREGARD last nights posts... I've been trying to chill out on the inebriated late night rants...I seemed to have relapsed. Excuse me please.
Vamos United!
I think it's good news we'll have Guerrero and Jaime in the mix.

Posted by: dadryan | August 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

"Get Olsen hitting the heavy bag and he'll forget all about how much his ankles hurt..."


Posted by: viv | August 30, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

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