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Americans Abroad

A sampling of performances this weekend by U.S. players employed abroad.....

*Jeremiah White scored in the 86th minute -- 17 minutes after entering -- during Aarhus's 2-0 victory over AaB in Denmark. Benny Feilhaber did not play and, from what I understand, will have his troublesome knee reevaluated.

*Maurice Edu started and played 65 minutes and DaMarcus Beasley played the first half before being replaced by the wonderfully named Nacho Novo during Rangers' 2-1 victory over Kilmarnock.

*Marcus Hahnemann went 90 and Bobby Convey played the final 15 of Reading's 2-0 loss at Ipswich.

*Clint Dempsey did not play in Fulham's 2-1 win over Bolton.

*The U.S. starters in the back against T&T on Wednesday: Tim Howard went 90 in Everton's 3-2 victory at Stoke, Oguchi Onyewu played 90 as Liege defeated Kortrijk, 2-0, Carlos Bocanegra registered 90 for Rennes in a 1-1 tie with Le Havre and Steve Cherunodolo sat out Hanover's game with Moenchengladbach.

*Among the young guys, Freddy Adu played the final 11 in Monaco's 2-0 victory over Lorient, Michael Bradley was in the 18 but did not play for Moenchengladbach, Jozy Altidore did not played the second half for Villarreal in a 1-0 win over Deportivo La Coruna, Eddie Johnson didn't play for Cardiff City against Bristol and Michael Orozco sat out for San Luis against Club America.

Feel free to add to the list.....

By Steve Goff  |  September 14, 2008; 12:20 PM ET
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Thanks for the update Steve. I wish we could get French League games on TV.

Posted by: FC | September 14, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Correction...Jozy Altidore played the 2nd half of there 1-0 win

Posted by: Ben Canada | September 14, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Altidore played. He looked pretty good, too.

Posted by: Jaime | September 14, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"Jozy Altidore did not play for Villarreal against Deportivo La Coruna"

Ooops, yes he did, and with a near goal and a near assist.

Better check again Mr. Soccer Insider

Posted by: heckler | September 14, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Danny Szeleta went the full 90 for Brescia

Posted by: A Swift | September 14, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Better check again Mr. Soccer Insider

Posted by: heckler | September 14, 2008 12:58 PM

Lighten up, heckler.

Posted by: Smashmouth | September 14, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I updated the Altidore item.

Thanks for the heads up.

Posted by: Goff | September 14, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Davies scored for Hammarby in a 2-1 loss to Kilmar.

Posted by: Phillip | September 14, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Great picture of Davies (#10) on Hammarby's website:

Posted by: Eugene | September 14, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Jozy looked quite composed and the level of play did not appear to be above him. He looked good out there. Plus he made some solid decisions for such a young guy that the home fans loved. Wonder where he learned all that? Liked the way he threw his weight around and burned some talented players in tight spaces. Impressive.

I hope they don't loan him out but instead keep him on as some kind of a super sub. He's got goals in him for that team this year.

Posted by: Kosh | September 14, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Listened to the Moenchengladbach game today. For all those German speakers out there, games are free to listen to on Bundesliga Live Radio. All you have to do is register on and you're set to go. As for M'Gladbach, I have to say that they really coughed up a hairball with that 5-1 loss. As Goff mentioned, Bradley did not get any playing time but did make it to the substitutes bench. M'Gladbach goal was scored by Rob Friend. The score could have easily been 6-1 or 7-1 had it not been for a Heimeroth's great save on the first Hannover penalty...other saves were made by the goalpost. M'Gladbach's back four was literally torn apart today...although the Gladbach defenders made individual mistakes, the Hannover victory was well earned. Now it will be 20 years since M'Gladbach has earned a victory in Hannover. Total Schade heute...hoffentlich kriegen die Fohlen ein Sieg naechste Woche gegen die alte Dame "Hertha Berlin"

Posted by: BigWave | September 14, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Davies is scoring goals? I thumb my nose at him. Davies can score all the goals he wants in that inferior league. As long as he contiunes to fail in NOT SCORING ANY GOALS in a better league he will not earn a call up.

Posted by: Kosh | September 14, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

my impression is that with the exception of a few bright spots, those are some fairly underwhelming results for our foreign based contingent. we have a long way to go before we have stars on the top teams in EPL, La Liga, Serie A, or Bundesliga.

Posted by: Sean G | September 14, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Pretty sad that EJ can't get on the field for Cardiff.

Posted by: voyager | September 14, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Jozy was impressive today...Bob better give him a call!

Posted by: Johnny | September 14, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody watch the Monaco game to see how Adu fared in those last 11 minutes?

Posted by: BigWave | September 14, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

After watching cooper live against dcu and altidore today for villareal I must add my voice to those who are demanding those two get a call up. That's almost 13 feet of attack.

Posted by: pigman sweet | September 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse;_ylt=AgzXoYn5iDX5sqVue5igM_omw7YF?slug=ap-foxsoccerchannel&prov=ap&type=lgns
BSPN wants to get its nose into EPL rights. They better call it foobtall then.
EJ and BF misery continues.

Posted by: td | September 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

td - maybe ESPN will finally convince EPL to air its games in HD...or overcome the technical hurdles...or whatever the holdup is that makes MLS a step AHEAD of La Liga/EPL/Serie A in that respect

Posted by: FC | September 14, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree with everything said about Jozy--he looked composed and even threatening on a few occasions. Not bad at all for his first appearance, even though he had a few nervous touches.

All in all, pretty much the complete opposite of any appearance I've ever seen E.J. make abroad...

Posted by: jason | September 14, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

I watched Altidore's debut on GolTV and he fit in very well with his teammates. I guess I had low expectations because when Altidore passed the ball to Robert Pires I was shocked that Pires passed it back to Jozy.

Posted by: garbaggio | September 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Great to hear that Jozy is starting well. From what I've read, he outperformed Franco (who is basically his direct competition for the target forward role). After last night's tie-that-feels-like-a-loss, we needed some good news.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | September 14, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Chest, I don't mean to be a downer but it seems more likely and I just want to bring my frustration. Last night was a lost and it is not promissing afterwards.

Posted by: td | September 14, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

This is exactly I am dreaming for. Hopefully soon. Home and away games, single table. Promotion and relegation, so much to fight for. If it works in all parts of europe why not here. Consult with their owners how it's done.
Q: If you were commish of MLS, what would be the first couple of things you would change within the league?
A: Increase the senior roster size from 18 to 24. Go to a single table and have every team play each other twice (home and away).

Posted by: td | September 14, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Goff, thanks for the "americans abroad" thread. I hope it'll be a staple of the site through the season.

Posted by: soccer nerd | September 14, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

What do you think are the chances we weill see jozy against Man U on wed in CCL action?

Posted by: pino | September 14, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Promotion and Relegation won't happen here. Why would you possibly want your team to play in an inferior league after a bad season?

The current "owners" have been losing LOTS of money for a long time, the next teams who join are paying a hefty price to join the league. All of them would stand to lose A LOT more money if they were to be relegated to an "MLS 2" or whatever you'd have it called, and many would likely fold because of such a move.

Promotion and relegation came about in Europe as a necessity, we don't share that necessity.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 14, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Pino, the chances are absolutely zero. Jozy isn't on the Champions League roster.

Posted by: CACuzcatlan | September 15, 2008 1:16 AM | Report abuse

The one bright sign for Moenchengladbach yesterday was striker Rob Friend. I have to say I've been a little out of the loop with the Canadian national team. How is Friend doing there, what's his status, etc. etc.?

Posted by: Tres | September 15, 2008 8:21 AM | Report abuse

@ AlecW81

Yeah but without promotion/relegation we won't be like the rest of the world (read Europe) and if we are not like the rest of the world then MLS has to be inferior on all levels, right? Which will result to a plethora of haters of MLS who profess to have never watched it (or ever plan to do so) to waste the ever so precious moments of their lives to say something negative about it on the internets, TV, or where ever.

So you see we MUST have promotion/relegation for the good of the league, for the good of the sport and for the good of my emotionally challenged man-ness and esteem, and for the planet, heck the universe even...

Posted by: Kosh | September 15, 2008 8:27 AM | Report abuse

"Yeah but without promotion/relegation we won't be like the rest of the world (read Europe) and if we are not like the rest of the world then MLS has to be inferior on all levels, right?"

Kosh, your logic completely escapes me. Difference does not equal inferiority. If MLS went to promo/releg, and folded because of it, I don't think we would say "well at least it was like Europe."

Posted by: Dan in FL | September 15, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

@ Dan in FL

I was taking a shot at what my son used to call Carsagm.

Posted by: Kosh | September 15, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Jozy looked great in his debut for the yellow submarine. He repeatedly smoked defenders along the end line and down the sideline, and took a great shot when he was surprised to receive the ball from a teammate in tight quarters at the top of the box. He spun to hit a hard shot first time that the goalie could only parry it away.

I'd say he and Rossi show the improving quality of American soccer. If only we could improve the national team selection process ...

Posted by: aging gk | September 15, 2008 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Villarreal is w/o Nihat and Rossi for the ManU match this week, as well.

Jozy is a very different striker out there for Villarreal, but man, did he look confident and intelligent. His ease of play almost made him look bored. He didn't show for the ball much, but that's not what he was out there for (unlike the man he replaced, Franco). Maybe even more importantly, the Spanish press was impressed.

Posted by: RK | September 15, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

Watched the Villareal game and came away impressed with Jozy's performance.

I wouldn't go as far as some clowns here saying he was brilliant but he did make some plays happen.

He beat his marker on the wing twice, once on each side, and then once more but flubbed the final pass.

After that, the Depor defenders realized that Llorente was garbage and Jozy was able to do some damage so they focused on him and he became less and less visible.

I like what he brings to La Liga and once he gets a constant string of minutes, it'll be hard to stop him. He still needs to work on his touch though but all in all, a very solid debut for Jozy. He's still towards the bottom of the depth chart and I wouldn't put him ahead of Nihat, Rossi or Franco but he deffinitely deserves minutes ahead of Llorente.

Posted by: Christian | September 15, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

You can watch video highlights for just about all of these with this link:

Posted by: Matt | September 15, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

More needs to be made of Jozy's performance. He was dangerous and clearly at the level required by La Liga. Didnt look over matched once and was always looking to attack. He is clearly the most promising player for the US right now. Bradley needs to start putting him in the mix as frequently as possible.

Posted by: Eric | September 15, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

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