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Matchday: U.S. Open Cup Final - Battery at United

Greetings from Estadio RFK, where it's hotter out here (currently 92 degrees), than it is in Havana (currently 89), where the person whom I am temporarily spelling, Sr. Goff, is readying for the U.S. qualifier on Saturday evening.

I'll have your DCU lineup as soon as possible...

Feel free to chat about whether D.C. will win its first championship hardware since 2004... and in doing so reserve a spot in next year's CONCACAF Champions League. Can Charleston be the first non-MLS team to take the U.S. Open Cup title since Rochester did it nine years ago?

DCU (4-4-2): GK Louis Crayton; Ds Bryan Namoff, Marc Burch, Devon McTavish, Gonzalo Martinez; MFs Joe Vide, Santino Quaranta, Clyde Simms, Ivan Guerrero; Fs Luciano Emilio, Jaime Moreno. SUBS: Thorpe, Zaher, Fred, Cordeiro, Gallardo, Thompson, Dyachenko

As usual, this is the place for pregame, in-game and postgame discussion.

By Paul Tenorio  |  September 3, 2008; 5:28 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United , USL  
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for those of us who can't make it to the stadium due to continental issues, will Tony and WFED have the game on their webcast? Or anybody know a way to watch FSC online? I'm staying up till 2:30 tonight to watch our boys lift another cup (if I can get the game)

Posted by: The AMT | September 3, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

what size battery crowd is expected?

Posted by: Atl | September 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

for those of us who can't make it to the stadium due to continental issues, will Tony and WFED have the game on their webcast? Or anybody know a way to watch FSC online? I'm staying up till 2:30 tonight to watch our boys lift another cup (if I can get the game)

Posted by: The AMT | September 3, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I was able to watch the last match (vs NY) on tvunetworks.com (channel 21500). I am not sure what went into making that feed available but it worked for me. I had to install an ActiveX component (so IE only).

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Who is i'll

Posted by: The jim | September 3, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, yes, hell no.

Our Cups will runneth over tonight.

Posted by: JMR | September 3, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

what size battery crowd is expected?

Posted by: Atl | September 3, 2008 6:04 PM

Nine Volt

Posted by: delantero | September 3, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Google's Chrome browser runs ActiveX components as well - friends don't let friends use IE.

james

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Mac user. Chrome isn't out for me, and I'm with james on IE. Anything Safari- or Firefox-friendly?

Posted by: The AMT | September 3, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

for those of us who can't make it to the stadium due to continental issues, will Tony and WFED have the game on their webcast?
..........................................

Both the United site and this morning's article in the Post say that Limarzi will be doing his thing:

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/?nid=249

Posted by: The Jeff | September 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Go to mls-rumors.net. I've been able to watch games on FSC there on my MacBook using Safari and they said they may have tonights game live too.

Posted by: MacAbuser | September 3, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

I heard there will be about 300 Charleston fans tonight. Better away support than the MetroBulls have been able to muster.

Posted by: Kev | September 3, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Much obliged, thanks very much. Let's bring home the cup!

Posted by: The AMT | September 3, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Looks pretty empty in the parking kots hopefully more turn out later. The borings are playing so maybe clueless have gone to see them standing in the field. I saw there were few battery fans some wearing red some in traditional replica. Dc must win or it will be oh I won't even go there.

Posted by: td | September 3, 2008 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah red shirt with Satuaration I guess we can easily beat that with nice VW logo

Posted by: td | September 3, 2008 7:01 PM | Report abuse

D.C. U are about to be beaten at home. Soehn is clueless. His starting lineups consist of fringe players from the Petr Nowak era, a couple of players who are frequent fliers on the waiver wire, and a couple of good players who haven't played well. To me, all this smacks of a coach who doesn't get through to his players because he himself doesn't really know what he is doing. DCU epitomizes the sign of a poor team. Inconsistency. The Charleston players don't want for quality in addition to the chip on their shoulder. Coming into RFK is all the more motivation they need. Their coach has the easy job. Soehn has a difficult task in front of him and to me, he has proven he isn't equipped at this time to handle this game.

Posted by: Dave | September 3, 2008 7:06 PM | Report abuse

raul diaz arce scored for the battery in open cup play

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

There's about 100 battery fans here. Very sparse crowd overall.

Posted by: pigman sweet | September 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

starting lineup is up...

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

No gallardo no fred

Posted by: pigman sweet | September 3, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo!!! Thanks, Bart. 21500 on tvunetworks.com it is.

Posted by: Nick | September 3, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Dave,

Or we haven't been fully healthy since the Iowa Caucus?

Posted by: B.A. | September 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anthony The Great | September 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

It's in the net. Goal. Emilio!

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 7:41 PM | Report abuse

I believe assist from Santino. But Santino and Emilio are hurt.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Cheeky backheel from Moreno freed Santino, who after one touch was taken down in the box. Ball rolled to Emilio, who placed it in the rightside upper 90 to make it 1-0.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Ouch. Emilio is looking really bad. Even worse, Dyastinko is coming in for him. Lets hope he doesnt give away a crucial FK.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Goal - L. Emilio
Sub - Dyachenko for L. Emilio

Posted by: B.A. | September 3, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Goal, Fuller.

Posted by: RK | September 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Oh golly... Dyachenko is our teams curse...

Posted by: Antonio | September 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

first bad tackle by Dyastinko. This guy sucks. And his FK resulted in the goal. I said it just 5 minutes ago.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko in for Emilio...

10th minute goal Charleston. Long diagonal ball from left back to Chris Williams on left wing. From right side of box touched it back to Ian Fuller who blasted a shot to the near post. 1-1.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Was that Burch on "D" for that goal? ug.

Posted by: RK | September 3, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Check that - on right wing, not left.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko must have compromising pictures of Tom Soehn or Kevin Payne. He simply must.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Great ball into Ivan but a bad first touch creates a bad shot.

Posted by: RK | September 3, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Wish CHS were in their yellow & black...not another red team!

Posted by: RK | September 3, 2008 7:55 PM | Report abuse

WOW! CHS off the inside of the post and out!

Posted by: RK | September 3, 2008 7:56 PM | Report abuse

1-1
Charleston is dominating, had one go off the post for them.

Emilio scores in the 6mn and gets taken out a few minutes later, apparently he's still knocked up. Dyachenko to replace him.

Posted by: Thora | September 3, 2008 8:02 PM | Report abuse

I assume only 3 subs are allowed for this one?

Posted by: mjk | September 3, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

BTW, why would Soehn replace Emilio with Dyachenko? Isn't Dyachenko a MF?

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Nothing connecting in the attacking 3rd.

Dyachenko is a Dyasaster!

Posted by: Eric | September 3, 2008 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Bart: Dyachenko is actually a better forward than he is a MF. At least he can be a target player. His passing is not always the best and he gives up possession too often to put him in at MF. Still I would have rather seen Thompson in and move Tino up to Striker

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Why is Dyachenko still on this team?

Posted by: bristol | September 3, 2008 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Moreno should have done better with that.

Posted by: Paddy O'Casey | September 3, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

You're Welcome

Posted by: Joe Public | September 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

40th minute: Fred in for Joe Vide, who limped off field.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

How could you took 15 minutes to take me out when I was obviously favoring my hamstring? Eh, Tommy Soehn?


Posted by: Joe Vide | September 3, 2008 8:16 PM | Report abuse

I assume only 3 subs are allowed for this one?

Posted by: mjk | September 3, 2008 8:05 PM
...........................................

I believe four subs were allowed in all previous rounds of this tournament.

Posted by: The Jeff | September 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

I think saying Dyachenko is a better F than MF is being very generous. You might say he sucks less as a F than as a MF.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Joe Vide you are not the caveman of the team Benny still holds that title. Brush up on you english ;)

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Bart: fair enough he is less detrimental to the team there

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

what is dyachenko doing on the field? We are playing without a striker. Our midfield possession will not amount to much as all of moreno, quaranta and now fred all attack from behind, expecting dyachenko to be a target is unrealistic. This one substitution is potentially disasterous.

Posted by: rob | September 3, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

To all: I was trying to make the best of a bad situation with the Dyachenko sub. Most of us agree that he does not belong on the pitch but I have to believe that there is something that the team sees in him. To me the 15 min of good play is not enough to outweigh the couple hundred min of bad to terrible play. And yes my heart sinks when I see him come into the game.

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:33 PM | Report abuse

Rod DyaSTINKO is the worst player ever.

Posted by: | September 3, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know for sure how many subs each team's allowed??

Posted by: pigman sweet | September 3, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

4 subs

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Fred
GOOOOOOOOAALL!!!!!!!

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Frejj!!

Posted by: MK | September 3, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad Bretos has the female viewer in mind in his description of Tino's discomfort...

Posted by: MK | September 3, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

50th minute: Goal Fred. Long pass from Simms, dummied by Dyanchenko to lead Fred alone in the box. Slotted to near post. 2-1 United.

Posted by: Paul Tenorio | September 3, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko dummies into a nice play, isn't that ironic.

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 8:48 PM | Report abuse

at least dyachenko is in the position (top forward) where he can do the least harm. He can't really help things in any manner but he can't do too much harm. It's like playing with 10 players.

whoo hoo! dyachenko is out!

Posted by: diego r. | September 3, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I think the applause isn't for Gallardo coming in but Dyastinko going out.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations to DC United on gaining their 12th trophy.

DCU 2-1 CHR

Posted by: SportzNut21 | September 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

DC UNITED!!! Open Cup Champions
Way to go guys

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

DC United !

international football in 2009 !

luciano emilio is giving an interview in english - talk about most valuable linguist - his ability to give interviews in a brand new language less than 2 years in is remarkable

Posted by: diego r. | September 3, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

DC wins it. On the Fred goal. At least some hardware from this cursed season.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Mission Accomplished?

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Next Step: Qualifying for MLS Cup Playoffs

Posted by: B.A. | September 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Also, we win the Coffee Pot Cup! Again!

Posted by: B.A. | September 3, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

This might be the boost that the team needed. If we make a strong run into the playoffs we could go deep and maybe even go on to be MLS champions.

Posted by: dc in asheville | September 3, 2008 9:36 PM | Report abuse

**I think the applause isn't for Gallardo coming in but Dyastinko going out.

Posted by: Bart | September 3, 2008 9:15 PM**

I know I was applauding for Dyastinko leaving.

Just realized tonight why he looks familiar. He's a poor man's John Wolyniec.

Posted by: Ben | September 3, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse

dc in asheville - dude dyachenko sucks no matter where he plays. except as a spectator... Dump him and pick up the dude from the battery! hello!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 3, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

To the 400 Charleston supporters who made the trip. Thank you for the trophy!

Posted by: THANK YOU | September 3, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

That's was a pretty cool win.

Posted by: pigman sweet | September 3, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko had a solid game tonight. He was very active and played a huge role in our 2nd goal. OPEN YOUR EYES AND WATCH THE DAMN GAME. Screw the haters.

Posted by: GoUnited | September 3, 2008 10:26 PM | Report abuse

Awesome that we won a cup!!

I thought the Battery fans made a good showing, a USL1 team gets 400+ fans to travel 8 hours mid-week, bravo.

Posted by: Rocko | September 3, 2008 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Aaaahhhhhhhh........

Posted by: Kire | September 3, 2008 10:33 PM | Report abuse

louis crayton is crazy! i think he enjoyed winning the us open cup more than anyone has ever enjoyed winning the us open cup. new dcu folk hero? he needs to start getting some sports bog hype, though. paging steinberg!

was there some sort of clearance sale at the smoke bomb outlet this week?

Posted by: stairs | September 3, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, GoUnited, for actually watching Dyachenko play instead of buying into the received opinion that he sucks. He is not close to being the worst player on the pitch. Tonight, in addition to a good shot, he fooled his defender into thinking he was going to trap Clyde's pass, then dummied it to Fred, who was on the run. That defender otherwise would have been goalside of Fred, who probably would not have scored the winning goal.

Posted by: Hedbal | September 3, 2008 10:54 PM | Report abuse

Dyastenko sucks! :)

Posted by: Glaucon | September 3, 2008 11:08 PM | Report abuse

When will Dyanchenko leave this team. He is absolutely horrible.

Posted by: For Gods Sake | September 3, 2008 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Wizards acquire Gomez for playoff push!

Posted by: Curious | September 3, 2008 11:25 PM | Report abuse

For those of you claiming to be DC United fans and continually slamming, mocking and poking fun at players, look at your own lives, for just a moment. Do you really think that because you're in a dead end job, making less than you're REALLY worth, and can't seem to make a significant impact on your job, life or friends' opinions, that you "suck"? Seriously, take a LONG hard look in the mirror before you go throwing stones in glass houses.

In particular, Rod didn't buy himself back, play himself, or rate himself from practice. If you've the pedigree and current on the job work experience to rate him like you do, prove it. At least he's trying to live a dream (and, he has some chance to do it, unlike you, who can only hate.)

Posted by: tired of "fans" - root for someone else. | September 3, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

dyastinko is horrible how could anyone think otherwise ? the one good moment doesnt make up for the 5 bad im sorry .

Posted by: chris D | September 3, 2008 11:31 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko played a decent game and he had good moments, but to argue that he is not the worst player on the pitch is absurd. He was the worst player in a United shirt on the pitch tonight. He has been the worst player in a United shirt on the pitch in multiple matches this season.

But, with that said, he exceeded expectations tonight, played a great dummy to Fred for the winner, and only gave up possession in dangerous positions twice (and only made yellow card worthy two-footed tackles twice). The folks in my section gave him a standing ovation as he left because he contributed positively to the team.

Posted by: Calm Down | September 3, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 3, 2008 11:37 PM | Report abuse

All losers and haters, your hate and jelousy has no limits.Open your eyes, children of the cold war.Soccer is an international game , and nowhere in the world fans are so prejudiced and ignorant as in the US. IT REALLY STINKS AN SUCKS.

Posted by: human | September 3, 2008 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Agree that the smoke bombs were out of control tonight. So pointless.

Posted by: mjk | September 3, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I will indeed take a hard look at my dead end job but I was also never selected by Toronto in the expansion draft and then dealt back to DC United for a first round draft pick.

It's not like Rod's a developmental player that DCU is hoping to bring along (say: Jeff Carroll). They have put many years and a lot of resources into developing Dyachenko and, at least in my opinion, has done nothing to contribute to DCU's success.

Certainly, Rod should not be the scapegoat for DC's lackluster season. I think it is more an indictment of the lack of roster depth and having him be, at least at times, our first choice off of the bench for attacking support

Posted by: diego r. | September 3, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand the emotion fueling the Dyachenko apologists. Here are the facts: he fouls entirely too much; he passes the ball to the guys wearing the wrong jerseys; he doesn't play with the killer instinct a target forward requires. Indeed when he entered the game United essentially began to play one man down. How can he possibly be a better option than Cordeiro, Kirk, or one of the feral cats living in the bowels of RFK?

Posted by: dcarmy | September 3, 2008 11:40 PM | Report abuse

Just curious, curious...You know it's Hercules and not Christ right?

Totally honestly, aside from that first BAD foul by Rod, he was not that bad. The poor mans, poor man, target man! Like Tino I think his thinking on the ball is a liability... Pushed further forward you gain an advantage with his height, and are probably better off than him being in the middle.
What a game!
For all the Fred Haters:Bite it!
I knew there was something ominous about Goff quoting him as saying he wanted to play in this final. GWG Baby!!!!
Sure am glad that "fortress RFK" didn't crumble in our faces....!
I can't give a complete rundown, but Guerrero, McT, Martinez, Simms!! Gallardo! I like how number 10 kinda hung back on the presentation stage... But he is so ILL on the ball folks!
Let's keep it up United!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: dadryan | September 3, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Seriously? How craven are these arguments going to get? Fans cannot be critical of an underachieving player because of his ethnic background? How about you spend a little time thinking and try and come up with a solid, reasoned analysis for why the player is under-appreciated before throwing up some heinous and weak ad hominen attack that goes after the frigging people that make the squad possible (the fans)?

Posted by: Prejudiced? | September 3, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

The attendance figure of 8200 is pretty poor - really proportionally no worse than what the Revs got less, considering the DCU game meant something more and DCU has a much better fan base.

The crowd was loud though for its size.

Posted by: Nogra Rover | September 3, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I agree, compared to Jaime or Marcello, Rod doesn't look good. He's not a playmaker, he just isn't, but due to injuries, we've had to use him as one. After watching him today, I think he may have a future as a target striker. He did pretty well in the air, he took defense from fred and played well with his back to the goal. If he can work on his snap headers, learn to turn a defender using his size and look to goal, he can be a good player in this league for a long time. Unfortunately, due to injuries, he's been asked to do things he is not as well suited for.

Posted by: Northzax | September 3, 2008 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Interesting about the attendance. I'm a very casual soccer fan, but I thought about going to this game and checked out the prices - I surprised how expensive even the cheapest tickets were. Just one data point.

Congrats to DCU!

Posted by: Tank | September 3, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

Dork a$$ Nats fans on the train who left in the 7th inning because of the color of their hair had no idea what just happened at RFK...
PLease don't start with the attendance figures... Even The PB himself was sure United would draw 10-11k...!
United won!
Hoisted the trophy in front of their real supporters!
I honestly heard some folks behind me asking "what is up with the open cup". Vamos United!
Vamos United!
Yeee Hawwww!

Posted by: dadryan | September 3, 2008 11:50 PM | Report abuse

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.

Posted by: dadryan | September 3, 2008 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko had a solid game tonight. He was very active and played a huge role in our 2nd goal. OPEN YOUR EYES AND WATCH THE DAMN GAME. Screw the haters.

Posted by: GoUnited | September 3, 2008 10:26 PM

Dyachenko played a decent game and he had good moments, but to argue that he is not the worst player on the pitch is absurd. He was the worst player in a United shirt on the pitch tonight. He has been the worst player in a United shirt on the pitch in multiple matches this season.

But, with that said, he exceeded expectations tonight, played a great dummy to Fred for the winner, and only gave up possession in dangerous positions twice (and only made yellow card worthy two-footed tackles twice). The folks in my section gave him a standing ovation as he left because he contributed positively to the team.

Posted by: Calm Down | September 3, 2008 11:33 PM

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I have to admit I was booing Rod as loudly as anyone -- so loudly maybe you even heard me on TV or the net. For much of the game he was totally ineffective up top.

That said, Rod did play a pivotal role on the winning goal -- making an intelligent play. My biggest criticisms about Rod focus on his feel for the game and his soccer I.Q. That was a nice play that showed me something. He also almost scored a goal out of nothing...taking a shot he had no business taking. He left the goalie flatfooted and he hit the post. After Fred's goal, it was probably the best shot anyone on DCU took all night. So, ya'll dissing him need to look at the entire picture.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | September 3, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

CALM DOWN, calm down the WORST writer and thinker. Do you want to substitute Rod on the field? GO ahead and show what you can do.It would be at least fun if not a disgust to watch you PLAY.

Posted by: unknown | September 3, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

Man, that was fun.
Fred was great - they could not answer his speed and ability.
Gallardo was also a cut above. Glad TS limited his minutes.
Charleston was decent. Just not good enough though.
I thought we missed Namoff wide. It gives us a different look when both Namoff and Martinez are wide and making strong overlapping runs. Burch just doesn't seem as active on LB. Peralta's return should show a more well balanced attack.
Louis Crayton is a ton of fun, isn't he? Great guy to have around. But, I could do without the flopping around the ground on corners - my heart con't take but so many of those.

Posted by: marksman | September 3, 2008 11:55 PM | Report abuse

For those who watched on the boob tube, with the advantage of replays, I have to ask about the final play. The ref whistled the play dead less than a second before Charleston scored the tying goal. What was the foul? I guess it was some kind of interference against Crayton? Was it a good call, or did we get extremely lucky?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | September 3, 2008 11:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey Paul.

What's this mean:

"Charleston threatened with a header in the 86th minute that was flicked over the top and challenged on the win a minute later, but..."

"and challenged on the win" ???

Maybe some editing need must be done before the final print edition goes out?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:08 AM | Report abuse

I'd say Tank is probably right. DCU probably charged too much at the gate. However, they were offering considerable discounts to plan holders and those who picked up flyers at the last game... Wish I knew why more people didn't turn up for this game. However, I think the crowd in the bowl wasn't that much smaller than most. Makes me think the regular season crowd figures may be inflated with a bunch of no-shows and comps in the boxes. The Barra side was fairly well-represented -- certainly not half-empty. It was the other side where the crowd was much thinner than usual. The FO has to find a way to turn them into more than casual fans. I realize that going up against the GOP convention for a soccer game in DC is a tough sell. Things should improve if Democrats rule the roost long enough to create new fans.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | September 4, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE.

Posted by: dadryan | September 3, 2008 11:52 PM

Not sure who this is aimed at - but I was there.

For games like these - meaningful yet mid week ones with potentially small crowds, DC should allow for exchanges and the use of the two for one charity vouchers. I think this game could have won over some new fans.

Posted by: Nogra Rover | September 4, 2008 12:20 AM | Report abuse

I for one was glad to see the smoke bombs make a return. The last six weeks or so there's only been like one a game. I'd rather have a few less, sure, but it was nice nonetheless to see them back in force.

Posted by: spectre | September 4, 2008 12:21 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Nogra that the FO should have found some innovative ways to put more fannies in the seats for tonight's game. The chance to celebrate a championship really could have generated a lot of good will.

Posted by: FIsch Fry | September 4, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse

don't be so sensitive... It was aimed at everyone who was not there. Including Steve Goff...:)

Posted by: dadryan | September 4, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

Both DC United AND the Nationals win on the same night?!? Dat don' happen very often... :-)

Posted by: Juan-John | September 4, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

I actually think the Front Office did as much as they could to get fans in the stands. I got several e-mails and even a pair of recorded calls from #99 himself. You don't want to devalue tickets too much - at a certain point the fans have to step up.

On a separate note, how about the new LED lights ringing the stadium next to the scoreboard and the flat panel TV on the quiet side? (or at least new to me)

Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 12:44 AM | Report abuse

Actually, I got that call from Jaime, as well. The bugs need working out. I followed directions to get connected and buy tickets, but there was no answer.

I did notice a fancier ring of advertisements -- looked like the technology they have at Nationals Park. Made me wonder why the investment, now....?

I also noticed a bunch of spotlights out on the quiet side, above the side of the field United was defending. Were they trying to emulate the Guatemalan national stadium?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | September 4, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that United wins a championship and The Post puts the story on the third page of the sports section.

Guess the story regarding the Nats lowering the prices on some seats was deemed more newsworthy.

Amazing.

Posted by: seahawkdad | September 4, 2008 6:14 AM | Report abuse

Seriously? How craven are these arguments going to get? Fans cannot be critical of an underachieving player because of his ethnic background? How about you spend a little time thinking and try and come up with a solid, reasoned analysis for why the player is under-appreciated before throwing up some heinous and weak ad hominen attack that goes after the frigging people that make the squad possible (the fans)?

Posted by: Prejudiced? | September 3, 2008 11:44 PM

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If you want craven arguments and ad-hominem attacks, look no further than the character assasination, vituperation, and bile directed at Dyachenko, including but by no means limited to mocking his *name*.

I agree on the facts that Dyachenko is in over his head in MLS. But given the salary structure in MLS where they pay half the bench wages that are at or below poverty level, sometimes you have to throw warm bodies out there. Fact of MLS life.

Critique Dychanko's play if you want, there is certainly room to do so, but the infantile name-calling directed at Dyachenko undermines your case.

Posted by: Ron | September 4, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

What a night!!! DC United wins the US cup, and the Islanders beat Alajuense 2-1 in the last 2 minutes of the game. Please relegate New England and Chivas and bring the good USL teams to the MLS!!!!

Posted by: Lucky Fan | September 4, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Victory is sweet!

But that effort will not win MLS Cup nor get us through the Champion's League.

Put the trophy in the case and keep working on organization (at time the defensive marking was horrendous) and moving the ball more quickly on offense (why the need to take so many touches?).

Posted by: delantero | September 4, 2008 7:47 AM | Report abuse

YES!! Another piece of hardware in the cabinet. Not an easy game though, so congrats to the Battery for bringing it and making an exciting game of it.

The USOC title should help ease some pressure and allow DC to play even better ball. We all know that they can do it. If we can get these guys off of their injuries and keep them healthy we can do enough to get through the group stage of the CCL then make the playoffs and have a healthy run through them also.

We need to play a bit sharper, but I like our chances going forward. With a full squad (touch to have these days for pretty much everyone in MLS) we are more than good enough to compete for MLS Cup.

Congratulations DC United!!

VAMOS UNITED!

Posted by: Kosh | September 4, 2008 7:59 AM | Report abuse

Through 116 posts no one has mentioned #8 for the Battery . . . I was kind of surprised to hear that Lazo Alavagna played for DC United . . . why did United let him go? He looked like a tremendous player last night. Of all the attacking players that have shuffled through over the past year, including the Lilliputian who United signed for $150,000, I am hard pressed to think of one who I'd rather see in black and red.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 4, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

The Barra Brava again shows why they're the best supporter group in MLS. I love sitting across the stadium and watching those crazies. They alone are worth the price of admission.

Posted by: QuietSider | September 4, 2008 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, bring back Lazo! Man, for $150K, we could get him and Richardson from Joe Public. Or lots more of the flat screen TVs.

Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

The Barra and SE do put on a great show. From the quiet side, it felt like watching theater, with the Fortress RFK set design and all.

Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

I've been a critic of Dyachenko as an attacking midfielder. He had a decent, but not outstanding, game up top. He is better suited to that position. If he played there more often, he would have a better rapport with the others in the offense.

I'm still hoarse and tired. I missed the action at times because I couldn't see through the smoke, the flags, and the giant replica (I was under the left armpit in section 232). But I had a great time! Thanks to all the singing, chanting fans in the BB/SE.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 4, 2008 8:32 AM | Report abuse

"I was kind of surprised to hear that Lazo Alavagna played for DC United . . . why did United let him go?"

OWNTF
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Somebody correct me if I am wrong but back around '04 or '05 while with United, he had an accident on the 495 Beltway (shocker, right?). United let him go. He hadn't really broken into the lineup after getting traded here. Since then dude has consistently been playing well for Charleston and he played MISL during the winter. In my opinion, he is definitely ood enough to be merit a minimum MLS senior roster salary and come off the bench or start some games (depending on the squad and circumstances). Dude always brings it.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 4, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Hooray beer!

Posted by: Joe S. | September 4, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

All losers and haters, your hate and jelousy has no limits.Open your eyes, children of the cold war.Soccer is an international game , and nowhere in the world fans are so prejudiced and ignorant as in the US. IT REALLY STINKS AN SUCKS.

Posted by: human | September 3, 2008 11:38 PM
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Human--Are you just trying to crack us up. Or are you really serious. Come on-There is a lot of prejudice in the world. You lose all credibility when you claim that the US is the worst when it comes to prejudice in soccer. And I do mean all.

The "children of cold war" line was hilarious though. Check the listings but I think that the Cold War Kids are gonna be playing the 9:30 club some Saturday in October. I kinda like some of their songs and they are an interesting group.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 4, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Wow, the Rod bashing is freakin' ponderous...

He did a decent job last night, and always works hard. The hate is out of line.

I had a great time last night. Also, kudos to the Battery who played an organized, confident game, kept their heads in it, and carried themselves well. Kudos also to their traveling support.

Posted by: JkR | September 4, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

@ human | September 3, 2008 11:38 PM

The Cold War is over. We won.

If you don't believe me, ask the billionaire Roman Abramovich.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 4, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

I noticed 8 from the get go and thought the same thing, he's got some touch and would be a much better off the bench option than Rod.

6 didn't look to bad either . . .

Wilson? Another DC U veteran, handled Vide well enough, but should have been called for a pk on Tino early . . but Emilio put it away . .. and then gets beat by Rod's dummy ball . . not a good night for him.

Posted by: delantero | September 4, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

To the 400 Charleston supporters who made the trip. Thank you for the trophy!

Posted by: THANK YOU | September 3, 2008 10:04 PM
-------------------------------------------Classless and corny. I hear similar lame comments and bragging last night while some Battery supporters were leaving.

They travelled by the hundreds to support their club in an uphill battle at a time when many of us are unnder economic strains.

Props to them.

We beat a 2nd division club with 1/5 of the payroll. For those of you who like bragging like this, don't cry when the Mexican club fans clown us. It's lame. We were "supposed" to beat them. It's like a 5th grader braggin about beating a fiesty 3rd grader that gets in a few good shots. Bragging looks lame and silly.

Don't get me wrong: I'm thrilled that we won. Another trophy, automatic berth for international play--it's all good. I with that it had been by more but all that matters is the result.

Charleston Battery gave us a very competetive match and they reprezented themselves and the USL very proudly. They have great fans and a very nice soccer specific stadium and great preseason tournament. they have always been ahead of the curve, even with their very limited resources. From their fns to their management, they are class. Straight up class.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 4, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Yes, major props to the Battery and their fans. They have an awesome stadium with a sweet all-soccer pub attached. And for those of you still playing, check out the adult tournament the City hosts every Memorial Day weekend: http://www.charlestoncity.info/dept/content.aspx?nid=646
You may recognize the player in the photo!

Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 8:54 AM | Report abuse

I gotta third the motion on the props train to Charleston's supporters. I also agree that being smug about this victory is stupid, United made some serious mistakes and looked terrible on the play when Charleston scored...Burch got shook out his shoes, and this game was not over till the final whistle for sure.
We've all seen United poop the bed in the dying minutes of a game, and I think we should thank our lucky Brazilian stars for getting the win.
I was really hoping for a thrashing like HV got in preseason, but Charleston fought hard and their defense for the most part was very substantial. Better than the Galaxy that's for sure.

Posted by: dadryan | September 4, 2008 10:03 AM | Report abuse

"I was kind of surprised to hear that Lazo Alavagna played for DC United . . . why did United let him go?"

OWNTF
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Somebody correct me if I am wrong but back around '04 or '05 while with United, he had an accident on the 495 Beltway (shocker, right?). United let him go. He hadn't really broken into the lineup after getting traded here. Since then dude has consistently been playing well for Charleston and he played MISL during the winter. In my opinion, he is definitely ood enough to be merit a minimum MLS senior roster salary and come off the bench or start some games (depending on the squad and circumstances). Dude always brings it.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 4, 2008 8:33 AM

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Wasn't Lazo's nickname when he was with United "Lazy Alvanja"? If I recall, he was widely derided during his time with the club -- he was more or less a forerunner of Rod Dyastenko.

Posted by: J | September 4, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Rog Dychenko is a poor player by MLS standards. He should not be playing for the first team for a number of reasons that people knowledgable of the game can cite. These include,

1. Inability to maintain possession of the ball
2. Inability to make positive passes to teamates both under pressure and sometimes without pressure
3. Reckless tackling
4. Poor positional play
5. Poor decision making particularly in the attacking third of the field
6. Poor shooting on goal

Rod is not up to MLS first team standards; he just isn't.

While I agree that its silly to make analysis of his skills into some sort of personal vendetta, it is fair game for a PROFESSIONAL player to be cheered or booed as his play warrents.

When Rod came off, the "applause" was clearly sarcastic and demonstrated the need for him to leave the field.

Posted by: Nick from Big Soccer | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

The Barra and SE do put on a great show. From the quiet side, it felt like watching theater, with the Fortress RFK set design and all.


Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 8:29 AM

Screaming Eagles didnt do sh!t for the fortress RFK that was all BArra Brava!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Nick from Big Soccer | September 4, 2008 1:16 PM

Whatever point you might have had is completely negated by this nonsense:

"..people knowledgable of the game can cite"

Don't try to pass off your opinion as fact known to "people knowledgable of the game"

Back to bigsoccer with you....

Posted by: JkR | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

"..people knowledgable of the game can cite"

Don't try to pass off your opinion as fact known to "people knowledgable of the game"
*************

I suppose your a Nationally licenced USSF Coach like myself.

Posted by: Nick from Big Soccer | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Was anybody upset that DC winning the open cup wasn't front of the sports page? I'm sorry, Washington Post, but you need to get your priorities straight. The best team in DC is constantly being ignored.
At least the inside story was fairly big.

Posted by: andrew | September 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I suppose your a Nationally licenced USSF Coach like myself.

Posted by: Nick from Big Soccer | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM

Congrats on your accreditation and your service to the game, but it's still only an opinion, Coach.

We've all questioned coaches opinions before, haven't we?

Posted by: JkR | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

The Barra and SE do put on a great show. From the quiet side, it felt like watching theater, with the Fortress RFK set design and all.

Posted by: FC | September 4, 2008 8:29 AM

Screaming Eagles didnt do sh!t for the fortress RFK that was all BArra Brava!!
Posted by: Anonymous

Read the sentence .......
it says AND ALL!!
You boys really need to get over yourselves.

Otherwise, agree # 8 was pretty good.
I commented early in first half to my son that #6 was a good talent.
I was walking in about the same time as the Charleston group. I tried to compliment them on their travelling so well. They really did not seem interested in talking to a DCU fan. Oh well.Regardless, they showed well for their team, especially with the charter flight and an 8-hour bus ride.
Also was VERY nervous in the last 10 minutes that we were headed for OT.
DC was fortunate that it ended at 93 minutes, not 120.

Posted by: marksman | September 4, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Re:Dyachenko--the namecalling is inappropriate,criticism is legitimate.Remember his first season out of UNLV:he came as a record goal scorer,yet Petr Novak criticized him heavily and kept pushing him hard(while promoting rookies Boswell and Troy Perkins to starters).He was moved to MF b/c of personnel at that time.As much fault must go to FO for bringing in mostly poor field players (and Wells) as to Rod D's inability to convert from F to MF.

Posted by: Coach Peter | September 7, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

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