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Morning Kickaround

John Barnes is in for Jamaica, Jorge Luis Pinto is out in Colombia, but most importantly, another episode of "I'm on Setanta Sports":

Unless something urgent arises this afternoon, I am not planning to rejoin you again until tomorrow. Feel free to use this thread for thoughts on today's CONCACAF and Euro Champions League matches or anything else on Planet Futbol.


By Steve Goff  |  September 17, 2008; 11:08 AM ET
Categories:  World  
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ehhh..first

Posted by: Anonymous | September 17, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

"Since when am I a bloody Dalek?"

Posted by: Alex | September 17, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm down in my basement working on a joke about Man U putting "Federal Reserve" on its jerseys.

Lessee, "uniform" is to "kit" as "jersey" is to _____________

Posted by: gringo | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

If San Jose comes back from their miserable start to knock DC United out of the playoffs, I'm going to babysit dadryan's kids for a week.

Posted by: Joe Doc | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm down in my basement working on a joke about Man U putting "Federal Reserve" on its jerseys.

Lessee, "uniform" is to "kit" as "jersey" is to _____________

Posted by: gringo | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Pinto is a good example of how quickly a coach's fortunes can change. Colombia was undefeated and riding high not long ago, but two quick defeats and he's gone.

Posted by: Gallo Pinto | September 17, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Lessee, "uniform" is to "kit" as "jersey" is to _____________

Posted by: gringo | September 17, 2008 12:48 PM
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"**it." Oh? You weren't talking about the state?

Sorry Jerseyites. It was too ripe and I had to pick it.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 17, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

I wish John Barnes great success with Jamaice but I think that Jamaica pulled the plug too quickly on rene Simoes, considering that his got them to a World Cup.

Anybody remember John Barnes rap in the New Order World in Motion joint??? It wasn't very good (and that is being kind) but he looked like he had a ball doing it and it was classic New Order. The US needs a cool joint like that.

Hey Joe Doc! Compose one and make it kinda funky!!!

Posted by: yankiboy | September 17, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't even want to think about what will happen during Cruz Azul match. It will be out numbered by Cruz fans over United, possibly 3-1. Can't imagine the concept of 6-nil cruz. Oh boy.

Posted by: td | September 17, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

That only applies to coaches who coach teams around the world that does not apply to MLS. Where coaches like Clavijo, Kries, and Soehn can have jobs.

Posted by: forever united | September 17, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Now that the "Special One" has moved on shouldn't his puppet have an Italian accent instead of a Russian one?

Posted by: Glenn | September 17, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I assume by "Dalek" they're referencing "Doctor Who" right?

I don't like the new Doctor, the old "budget Vinnie Jones" Doctor was much better. He was also good in "28 Days Later".

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 17, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

@yankiboy: My friend, if you're looking for a guy to write a rap song, I'm not him! Indeed, I'm still trying to figure out what you mean by "joint."

Posted by: Joe Doc | September 17, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone in Olsen/Grosland (otherwise known as south-central PA) suggest any places that are likely to be showing Saturday night's United-Gals game on FSC? I will be passing through the area at that time. Thanks.

Posted by: The Jeff | September 17, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Anybody remember John Barnes rap in the New Order World in Motion joint??? It wasn't very good (and that is being kind) but he looked like he had a ball doing it and it was classic New Order. The US needs a cool joint like that.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 17, 2008 1:12 PM

Great song! "I ain't no hoooooligan..." :-)

Posted by: Kev | September 17, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Shame no Altidore on the bench at Old Trafford today.

Posted by: Kev | September 17, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Joe Doc, if Kid Rock can top the charts in 2008 by ripping off Lynyrd Skynyrd and "drinkin whiskey out the bottle", I think you can go with a Molly Hatchet kind of thing and bring the rest of the rappers your way . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | September 17, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

It may be good to discuss the merits of bringing Etcheverry out of retirement as a replacement for Gallardo for our playoff run. I hear he's tanned and ready!

Posted by: Ron | September 17, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Just watched about five minutes' worth of the ManU-Villareal game, and those five minutes were head and shoulders above in quality compared to the full 90 of last night's DCU-Saprissa game.

This doesn't change my commitment to watch and support MLS, but still, wow...

Posted by: Juan-John | September 17, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Even Villareal's payroll is likely several multiples of the entire league's payroll...

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 17, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Yep - the hottest young player in American soccer didn't even make their bench today. Different world, different world.

Posted by: Kev | September 17, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

@ OWNTF | September 17, 2008 3:55 PM

You listen to Kid Rock?

Not judging, just wondering.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 17, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Kids?
I better come clean...
I'm actually a 13 year old Kid Rock fan cutting school, listening to Dalek, writing graffitti, and "borrowing" the "joint" from the baggie in my mom's purse.

Posted by: dadryan | September 17, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

After watching the ManUtd-Villareal game, it seems obvious to me that all of soccer's ills would be cured by widening the goal mouth by about a foot.

Just kidding -- I think all those balls striking the post are pretty exciting, even if it means a lot of 0-0 games.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | September 17, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Too funny, OWNTF!

Did I ever tell you guys that I'm one of the singers of the Euro Champions League song?

Posted by: Joe Doc | September 17, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Joe Doc, if Kid Rock can top the charts in 2008 by ripping off Lynyrd Skynyrd and "drinkin whiskey out the bottle", I think you can go with a Molly Hatchet kind of thing and bring the rest of the rappers your way . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF

Kid Rock also rhymed "things" with "things" -- I think that's a violation.

Villarreal's game on Sunday made me forget about MLS, too...

Posted by: RK | September 17, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

@270 -- Players are allowed to choose the psych music in my "limo" on game day, what can I say . . . . . sometimes it's a long ride . . . .

but if you like "real" Skynyrd check out the tribute CD "Under The Influence" ---some good covers by John Hiatt and Gov't Mule among others . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | September 17, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

De Ja Vu... Creeped me out with the widening the goal mouth suggestion Fisch Fry...My born and raised "soccer would be so much better if they" Green Bay Packer loving neighbor said exactly the same thing when I dragged him out to that DCU/NYRB draw a few weeks ago...

Posted by: dadryan | September 17, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

You know what I don't like about soccer, when they fall over as if they've been shot. Dude, you weren't even touched!

Posted by: Boring American Sports Fan | September 17, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Scott? Is that you?

Posted by: dadryan | September 17, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Crap! Against my will, I am now a Manchester United patron. In protest, I am not filing a 1040 next year.

I will use my limited internet time in Federal prison to read Soccer Insider.

AIG. Northern Rock. Are (were) any other financial institutions EPL sponsors?

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 17, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Montreal v Joe Public. 17 seconds Montreal got the corner. Since then flurries of corners from Montreal and a goal in 14th minute and constantly threatening Joe who beat New England 4-0. This just tell me the quality of the MLS...I won't go further.
On the other hand, saprrisa has been in business since 1935 and played for 78 years while MLS and DC United only established 1996 - 13 years. So really no need to compare too much here.

Posted by: td | September 17, 2008 8:35 PM | Report abuse

How about Houston's games getting postponed? Don't get me wrong, I completely understand and sympathize, but now they get a much needed break. Where is DC's break, damnit? Why are the soccer-gods out to get this team this year? Why do we have a team made to "compete internationally" and we can't win a single game against an international team. I've almost given up this season. Maybe a win in LA this Saturday will give me some hope. If not, then I'm done and this team is too. I'm about ready to start thinking about next year; a fresh start, lessons learned (hopefully) and Benny back on the field!!!

Posted by: kris | September 17, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

AIG. Northern Rock. Are (were) any other financial institutions EPL sponsors?

Umm BARCLAYS. Who ironically (and perhaps temporarily) just saved Lehman from going bankrupt.

Posted by: Icky | September 17, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Oh yeah. Barclays. Duh. Somehow I was only thinking about shirts. They're not in good company. Sell all stock in Thomas Cook :-).

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 17, 2008 10:01 PM | Report abuse

yep another usl wins, mls loses. let's hope houston can hold something. otherwise, mls is becoming crap competing against the international teams. Montreal won 2-0. congrates!

Posted by: td | September 17, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Volere e potere. Did you apologists watch PR Islanders - Tauro FC, and Montreal - Joe Public ? Most of these A-League players are relative unknowns and MLS rejects, but they attempted to play soccer and were actually to a degree, enjoyable to watch.

You couldn't have said about that from last night's game. Sure our 2nd string/backups lack ability, but it's not like they are worn out from playing week in/week out strenuous reserve matches, much less from warming the bench.
But the fact is they didn't seem to have any desire or heart to even do anything creative.

Don't tell me those A-League dudes are another level from our 2nd string/backups.

Posted by: Charisma_Man | September 17, 2008 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Yo Chest: Still a little early but I like Marathon's chances of stealing points tonight from Cruz Azul. It's only the 17th minute of the second half but they are up 2-0...
The odds are stacked against DCU, but once everyone dries their tears, takes a deep breath, and maybe watches some of what the competition is coming up with, there could still be a shred of hope.

Posted by: dadryan | September 17, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, just close your eyes and remember back to Emilio splitting those Chitown defenders in extra time and burying the game winner. Anything could happen.
Hopefully except for San Jose knocking DCU out of the MLS playoffs... What would I do during that week JD? Something to the tune of ESPN2, with a little Coke Zero, PB&J, chips, remote, and a heavy office door?

Posted by: dadryan | September 17, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but Tauro and Joe Public would have a hard time competing with USL2 teams. The fact is, the Revs and Chivas were both fielding B-C/reserve squads in their qualifying matches with them.

Yes, the starters for PRI and MON are better (and much higher paid) than MLS reserves. That's just the economics of the league at the moment.

When MLS can afford to pay Reserves more than 50k (say 70-80), and developmental players more than 18k (say 30-35), then USL will have a hard time fielding teams worth watching.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 17, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

these games shows who comes out and whats it, who comes out with balls to play

unlike my team last night. lets get some usl players please.jeje

Posted by: dc fan | September 18, 2008 12:15 AM | Report abuse

WANTS IT

Posted by: dc fan | September 18, 2008 12:26 AM | Report abuse

is Watching some much soccer illegal?

Posted by: NORTENO | September 18, 2008 12:27 AM | Report abuse

Now that the "Special One" has moved on shouldn't his puppet have an Italian accent instead of a Russian one?

Posted by: Glenn | September 17, 2008 2:22 PM

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Actually, Jose's accent is Portuguese so it will stay the same wherever he goes. But yeah, it does sound Russian. Unkind folks -- Spaniards -- say that Portuguese is just a drunk Russian speaking Spanish he learned in Cuba.

Posted by: troy | September 18, 2008 3:25 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: Anonymous | September 18, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

When MLS can afford to pay Reserves more than 50k (say 70-80), and developmental players more than 18k (say 30-35), then USL will have a hard time fielding teams worth watching.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 17, 2008 11:57 PM
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If you meant paying higher for the reserves by recruiting better players I agree. Paying more for the existing reserves do nothing. Paying 50k or 75k for McTavish and Bursh wouldn't change their play. They just don't have much show for. Sorry but that's what it is.

Posted by: td | September 18, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Favorite line from the IOSS

"Look at the Time, Look at the Time!!!"

Posted by: Monty | September 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

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