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Morning Kickaround

*MLS tonight: Los Angeles, seeking its first winning streak since mid-June, visits Chicago, which hopes to rebound from a 4-1 home loss to Dallas over the weekend. A Fire victory would pull it within a point of second-place New England in the East and create some distance from pursuers New York, D.C. and Kansas City. A Galaxy win would -- gulp! -- move the club into third place in the West and, for the moment, earn a playoff berth. That said, I predict a 2-2 tie. Coverage begins at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN2.

*In Champions League last night, besides United's loss at Marathon, USL Montreal earned a point at home with a 0-0 tie against Atlante of Mexico and Olimpia of Honduras went on the road to defeat Joe Public, 3-1.

*Mexico lost a friendly at home in Los Angeles, 1-0 to Chile on a second-half own goal.

*Top-ranked Wake Forest's seventh straight win this year (and 12th straight overall) sets up a massive match with No. 3 Maryland (6-1) tomorrow night in College Park (8 p.m. ET, Fox Soccer Channel).

*Freddy Adu made his first start for Monaco, going 70 minutes during a 1-0 loss to PSG in the French League Cup's round of 32.

*Croatia's federation was fined by FIFA for racist behavior in the crowd at the World Cup qualifier against England this month.

Anything else worthy of discussion?

By Steve Goff  |  September 25, 2008; 9:49 AM ET
Categories:  CONCACAF , College Soccer , MLS , World  
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Wow! A whopping $30,000 fine for Croatia. That amounts to, what, less than $1 per spectator? Why don't they just put a "swear jar" in the stadium. Weak, FIFA, just weak.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 25, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

WPS annoucned their foreign allocation. I won't ruin it because I know Goff will post on it :)

except to say Freedom got Lisa De Vanna. Speed kills. Wambach + De Vanna might be very cool.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Slightly random thoughts...

Martinez at LB and Burch at CB seems to minimize weaknesses, while Martinez in the middle and Burch outside would maximize strengths. I know it's not an exact analysis, but I can't think of a more complete and simple reason for what seems like playing them both out of their more natural positions. I don't like the decision.

Crayton is fantastic. Yes he may be overly aggression sometimes, but he wins every comparison to Wells. It would be a difficult choice if Perkins were still with the team, but he's not so it isn't.

Fred is a key component, but not a game-changing star.

Rod is not a player the fans want to see on the field, and probably not the player that United hoped he become. One way or another, he will not be in a United jersey next year. Pointing out his multitude of flaws is fun for some, but name-calling and worse is juvinile.

If the team gets healthy...if we make the playoffs...if, if. What's that saying about potential without production is just...

The team is fatigued from the long shows on the field. The fans are tired of watching a fatigued shows on Soccer Insider.

Posted by: Eire Bier | September 25, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Ok I'm a dope. I see it now.

Posted by: OWNTF | September 25, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

The Freedom didn't get anyone, per se. They just got the negotiating rights. Not that Lisa De Vanna wouldn't want to come to America, or any of the other players for that matter, but nothing is certain until the player is actually acquired.

Posted by: DCU_Rick | September 25, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

At what point do the USL teams fold under the pressure of playing those big, bad Mexican clubs who -- one would think -- are more likely to make it through to the next round?

I ask this because I get the feeling they AIN'T gonna fold under the pressure or at least not go out without a fight.

Posted by: Juan-John | September 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Tim | September 25, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

MLS plays too tightly with it's Mexican and better skilled opponents. I'd rather see the team lose going forward with speed and pace, attacking and losing out on a counter rather than bunkering and still losing on the counter. It's like watching the USA play in a World Cup!

Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | September 25, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Did Kyle Sheldon write that FIFA article?

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 25, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse


that fifa article is an infomercial

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 10:34 AM | Report abuse needs an editor. Yoicks.

Posted by: Juan-John | September 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Anyone ever watched matches through, I swear in the chat room that sits along the game view box, people cannot find another thing to do but to dog MLS and DCU.
A constant flow of insults, can I blame them..No.
Thanks to Garber, MLS is now a joke compared to USL division teams based on the performance in the CCL. I just dont understand any more.
Garber planned it all along! How is it that team members are considered professional soccer players while making semi-pro salaries? I unno, just me ranting. Wished MLS was a bit better that it is all.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | September 25, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Any word on how Freey Adu played?

Posted by: hacksaw | September 25, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

He was the only bright spot on a hapless team.

Posted by: RK | September 25, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

That was a horrendous showing by United last night. Nothing more needs to be said.

I'm all for Lieweke's proposition of DPs not counting against the cap. That extra 750k we'd have available would mean we could replace dead-weight like Dyachenko, and sign a decent, pacey, CB to pair with Peralta.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 25, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Dyachenko makes 33K per year. That's MINIMUM SALARY for a senior roster player. He has almost no effect on the salary cap. You can argue about him taking a senior roster spot, but his dollars are almost moot. Get a clue AlecW81.

Posted by: Reality | September 25, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse


Really?! You think it's better for DP's to not to weigh on the overall construction of the rosters?

I mean, sure, if that's what you want, but I'd rather see the whole cap increased and minimum salaries put into effect. The Galaxy's issue is not that they are being punished for Becks' salary cap space - they are being hit without having a real direction. They are being punished for trying to be the Lakers when the supporters never wanted them to be the Lakers. They are being punished for going through Managers with reckless abandon and for hiring a GM that has the eye for talent and business accumen of sub-prime borrower.

Becks' and Landon are worth their salary cap space - but it's Ruiz who took up a big space.

They've let promising youngsters go and brought in veterans who could "handle Beckham". Well they handle the off-field stuff, but on-field they're getting what they paid for.

Phil Anshutz likes soccer - Tim Liewieke likes money. I feel sorry for Phil but Tim is the one who is swinging AEG like a wrecking ball through that club.

Taking Gallardo off our books wouldn't help DC United out. Having a consistent starting 11 that isn't swapping anywhere from 3-5 guys out every game based on injury or exhaustion would help. And the only way we could even EXPECT TO SCRAPE by in our given scenario is if good, cheaper talent isn't flooding USL, Scandanavia, the Spanish and Italian second division and the Colaship in England.

It's high time I was commissioner of MLS. Heck - I'd take 45% of Don's salary to do it and put the other 55% right into my on-field product right away.


Posted by: Virginia Blue Blood | September 25, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I have no problem with Rodion making his little bit of money. He'll be gone soon enough anyway. What about Ben Olsen making 200K and not realizing his career is over??? Or is he sacred?! Thanks for the memories Benny but it's time to go and give the team more flexibility with the cap next year.

Posted by: Reality | September 25, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

At what point do the USL teams fold under the pressure of playing those big, bad Mexican clubs who -- one would think -- are more likely to make it through to the next round?

I ask this because I get the feeling they AIN'T gonna fold under the pressure or at least not go out without a fight.

Posted by: Juan-John | September 25, 2008 10:23 AM
-------------------------------------------Both of the USL managers are doing a really good job so far managing their rosters for the USL league play and playoffs while they are competing in the CCL. But the results of all of the flying and playing 4 games in a week are starting to show.

Montreal looked pretty gassed at the end of their game last night (they have to turn around and play a playoff game tomorrow night).

Puerto Rico looked pretty tired playing Atlanta and Montreal last weekend. By winning the USL Commisioner's Cup, the Islanders got themselves a few days off before having their next CCL match early next week.

Only a few games in, with a lot to play for and both still have a real shot at getting to the next round. Freaking impressive.

Posted by: yankiboy | September 25, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

UVA women (ranked 15th in the Soccer America poll) at 8th-ranked Florida State tonight. The game can be followed at the UVA site:

Posted by: The Jeff | September 25, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Good for Freddy.

Posted by: Dave | September 25, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Looks like UEFA's Euro Championship is going to a 24-team tournament in 2016:

Posted by: Juan-John | September 25, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Troy Perkins has led VIF to the championship game for the Norwegian Cup by Defeating OD Grenland 2-1 today in the semi-finals

Posted by: soccer fan | September 25, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Maryland is not #3; they are #2 in the nation.

1 v. 2, it doesn't get any better.

Posted by: JB Skynet | September 26, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

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