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Qualifying Day

I am off to Chicago for tonight's World Cup qualifier between the United States and Trinidad and Tobago. Lots of European and South American qualifiers taking place this afternoon. Please share your thoughts about those matches and participate in the USA poll.

By Steve Goff  |  September 10, 2008; 12:00 PM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , U.S. men's national team  
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Another 1-0 win, another three points earned, and another round of criticism aimed at Bob Bradley and the team. That's my prediction.

Posted by: SSMD | September 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Pure Speculation on my part, but might United's new Young International be Keon Daniel of T&T? He's 21 and he's had trials with Manchester United and West Ham. Currently plays in the TT Pro League, so it wouldn't be a stretch that he'd come for a developmental deal.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 10, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

if the US only beat Cuba by 1 goal, what makes so many people think they're going to win by 2 or more goals? our offense is weak, or at least ineffectual.

Posted by: de | September 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

@de: that match was also in Cuba, in pouring rain, on a terrible pitch.

Not saying the nats are gonna romp tonight, but conditions are certainly better for it.

Posted by: Howdy | September 10, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

SSMD, if that happens, even I'll be on the FBBB (Fire Bob Bradley Bandwagon).

I'm looking for 3-0 US and a game that doesn't put me to sleep like the Cuba game did.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Prediction: Eddie Johnson scores a hat trick. Michael Bradley gets a brace. Eddie Lewis gets three assists. And we still complain. Win or lose, I guarantee one of the above.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 10, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I will miss at least 3 open goals. But its ok becuase we'll get a goal from our defense like usual.

Posted by: Eddie Johnson | September 10, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

What bar is everyone in DC going to watch the game? Lucky Bar, Fado's?

Posted by: Ameobi | September 10, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Imtired of 1-0 wins, I want 4-0 wins

Posted by: The Jim | September 10, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Did somebody say, "Chicago"?

"As I was walking down the street one day
A man came up to me and asked me
What the time was that was on my watch, yeah
And I said..."

Posted by: Joe Doc | September 10, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Goff's preview in this morning's Post did not mention Dwight Yorke, even though he will also apparently be missing:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKSP31720020080908

Posted by: The Jeff | September 10, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

We'll win something like 3-0, but it won't make a difference because people will still complain (rightfully so), because this team is woefully inconsistent and winning games like this gives a false sense of security.

But no matter, next qualifier Brian Ching will still be our starting striker, Eddie Johnson will still be called in regardless of performance, and Eddie Lewis will still be brought in for "experience" (like he really has any). Meanwhile, our true talents will need to "prove" themselves overseas.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

CHICAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: George Michael (from NBC4 and his DJ days) | September 10, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I guess Roy Keane won't be sending a Christmas card to Jack Warner.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_sports?id=161373899

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 10, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Yorke's recall isn't right.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

re: "What the time was that was on my watch, yeah"

Whoa. Now that is STIRRING poetry. Almost as stirring and inspiring as that classic from Marv Levy,

"Go BILLS!
For we are here to cheer for you"

Posted by: Ron | September 10, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Wales blew a road point...
Go Faroe Islands!
Moldova off to a flying start.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Based on the Guat and Cuba games, I'm thinking 1-1 tie. This particular roster has shown no evidence of being able to create anything through the midfield. The goal vs. Guatemala came b/c the entire Guat D seemed to freeze and let Boca stroll through uncontested on the corner. The Cuba goal came off a very hopeful longball that bounced fortuitously off a back and right to Ching/Dempsey. I know that ugly or golazo, they all count the same, but this roster in the formation that BB is using simply isn't generating much.

Posted by: edgeonyou | September 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Without Dwight Yorke in the lineup, T&T will be less of a threat to score than a Eunich. They will be fast, but ineffective.

Posted by: schmuckatelli | September 10, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

The Germans are playing a bunch of guys I'm unfamiliar with...

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

I just hope we can be bothered to put out an attacking-minded team tonite. Like maybe one without at least 2 defensive midfielders. One where our number 10 actually is expected to run with the ball and pass it to wide players on the wings - or perhaps to onrushing forwards, perhaps even in the box. Maybe even NOT with their back toward goal so they could, like, set up and shoot.
One where neither Dempsey or Donovan, both obvious midfielders, were listed as "forward".
Shocking, I know.

Posted by: Lonnie | September 10, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Romania goes down a man...then goes up a goal. Poor Faroe Islands.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Go USA! Kick Jack Warner's (tuchas)!

Posted by: U. Sam | September 10, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

"Meanwhile, our true talents will need to "prove" themselves overseas."

Yea, I hate it when young players have to demonstrate their abilities against actual competition. Isn't it enough that they've proved their greatness in the minds of their fanboys?

Posted by: Ash | September 10, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Yea, I hate it when young players have to demonstrate their abilities against actual competition. Isn't it enough that they've proved their greatness in the minds of their fanboys?

Posted by: Ash | September 10, 2008 2:09 PM

I agree. Just like Eddie Lewis has demonstrated his "ability" against actual competition. Or Brian Ching. Or Eddie Johnson. Or Michael Orozco. Or Frankie Hejduk.

Gosh, glad you opened my eyes to that one.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Germans have their hands full in Finland. 2-2 nearing HT

England team for Croatia

James; Brown, Ferdinand, Terry, A Cole; Walcott, Barry, Lampard, J Cole; Rooney, Heskey.

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I predict Michael Bradley plays all 90.


Posted by: Bob Bradley | September 10, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Germans?

Forget it, he's rolling....

Posted by: AM | September 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess Roy Keane won't be sending a Christmas card to Jack Warner.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_sports?id=161373899

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 10, 2008 1:28 PM

----------------------------------------------

That can't be the complete text of the letter. They left out the part where Warner asks Roy for a large sum of money to ease his personal suffering...

Posted by: Kenobi | September 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I really would like to see more than results. Against the CONCACAF minnows, I'd like to see attractive, flowing, attacking soccer. That's what a lot of people are talking about here. And sure, it sounds a little whiney, but isn't it great that our program has progressed to the point where an ugly win is not cause for wild celebration?

And a thought on BB. When he first came in I was excited by the fresh faces he brought into camp. Now it seems that he has pretty much honed down the roster that he thinks is the best, and these are most likely the guys we can expect to see in 2010. But whether or not I agree with all his selections it was at least nice to see the size of the pool in the beginning. So I'll give it to him, that was something he did right.

The problem I'm having with what I'm seeing now is that the formation we're playing doesn't allow for goal scoring. You can complain about EJ or Ching or LD or anybody else all you want, but until we can build a ball through the midfield and get numbers into the front third nobody is going to be successful as a striker on this team. It seems that BB has the mindset that we are in some jeopardy of not qualifying if we allow games to be a little more open by committing numbers. I would contend that, though scores might be higher and clean sheets might go out the window, the results would pretty much stay the same.

Posted by: Matte | September 10, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

"I agree. Just like Eddie Lewis has demonstrated his "ability" against actual competition. Or Brian Ching. Or Eddie Johnson. Or Michael Orozco. Or Frankie Hejduk."

If you seriously believe players like Lewis and Hejduk have never demonstrated their ability in direct competition, then there's little anyone can do for you. Sadly, fanboy syndrome, if caught too late, can be irreversible.

Please, everyone, don't send any donations to help fight this tragic disorder. It wouldn't do any good anyway, so buy something nice for yourself instead.

Posted by: Ash | September 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Slovenia 1 Slovakia nil

Schlemeel nil Schlemazel nil

Posted by: Laverne & Shirley | September 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

what happen to David Bentley? He is supposed to be the figure for David Beckham's absense. Capelo at least giving Walcott a chance although he ignore Agbonnolllllarrrr (sp) and Ash young.

Posted by: td | September 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

td, sometimes I understand posts in German more than your posts.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

@RK:
Now, that's funny.

Posted by: Matte | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I predict Michael Bradley plays all 90.


Posted by: Bob Bradley | September 10, 2008 2:31 PM
________________________________________

Why wouldn't he. Papi has allways let his hijo play cause if not mami isnt going to let papi sleep when she is nagging him.

lol

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | September 10, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Capello is on record lavishing praise on Walcott, clear favorite. I agree that the Villa youngsters deserve a look, they break forward so effectively.

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Finland 3 - Germany 3 (nearly over)

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

@AM

"Germans?

Forget it, he's rolling...."

I'm usually a shameless lurker here but that Animal House quote can't go unapplauded.

bravo AM!

jw

Posted by: jw | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

And Walcott scores! 1-nil, wow

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Klose hat trick in the 90th ties it!

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Thank you, Laverne and Shirley, for making me spit coffee on my monitor.

New prediction: USA 3-T&T 0. Goals by the keyboard speed bumps Cherundolo, Onyewu, and Kljestan.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

If you seriously believe players like Lewis and Hejduk have never demonstrated their ability in direct competition, then there's little anyone can do for you. Sadly, fanboy syndrome, if caught too late, can be irreversible.

Please, everyone, don't send any donations to help fight this tragic disorder. It wouldn't do any good anyway, so buy something nice for yourself instead.

Posted by: Ash | September 10, 2008 3:07 PM

I don't even know how to respond to this. You obviously don't get that the quotation marks are meant to be sarcastic. Either that, or you're not understanding which words I'm being sarcastic about.

I said Eddie Lewis, Brian Ching, Eddie Johnson, and Frankie Hejduk have proven their "ability" against actual competition. "Ability" is meant to be sarcastic, meaning they have none. I don't want proven players on the field if all they've proven is they're giant pieces of sh!t (as players).

Earlier I said, "Meanwhile, our true talents will need to 'prove' themselves overseas". "Prove" is meant to be sarcastic, in that (1) they've already proven themselves to be better than all 4 mentioned above, and (2) none of the above have ever proven they can consistently get it done against actual competition.

But I guess you're the guy that says something to the tune of 'Frankie Hejduk was a part of 3 World Cup rosters and has 72 caps, of course he's a quality player.' Yea, and Jeff Agoos was the best American CB option in 2002. Riiight.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have Eddie Lewis and Hey-dude on the Roster than Ching or EJ.

Posted by: AlecW81 | September 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

re: European qualifications:

Tonight, France finally comes to the realization that they need a new coach.

Brazil's Dunga lives to see another day. but he is getting oh so close to the edge of the clift.

US dream of dominating CONCACAF comes crashing down when they realize that NOBODY on their team can score.

Posted by: justsaying | September 10, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Superstitious about predictions after a disaster involving Columbus during the Hudson era.

I'm with Matte on the fact that it's not really the formation or even the personnel, it's the strategy within all that. We have 6 people who are told to stay home and play extremely conservatively. With only 4 people free to ever attack, of course we struggle to create chances. Is our defense so bad that they need the help? Are we so bad on offense that it's not even worth attempting to attack consistently? In either case, Bradley comes off as much more pessimistic than your average USA supporter (and let's be honest, we're not exactly the most optimistic bunch).

T&T is missing their captain, who is also their midfield inspiration. Their attacks are not going to be clever. I can see playing conservatively with our outside backs because of the speed factor, but our central midfield needs to join the attack today. This means Bradley letting Michael off the leash. I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | September 10, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

@ psps23: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSE!

Sorry, Pavlovian...

Posted by: Howdy | September 10, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

All you naysayers are grass blown by the wind, and the current wind is the "we suck under bradley" crywagon.

3-0 USA, goals by Donovan, Ching and Dempsey, and you'll still complain.

Posted by: saladyears | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I got an idea!
Instead of speculating, and complaining about tonight's game, why don't we direct our attention to the game at RFK, and wether or not it would be "better or worse" to get 3,1, or 0 points tonight for the ticket buying RFK going fan.
You think you're disappointed now? Uhhm, maybe Cooper will finally make the roster...zzzzzzzz.

NO?
GO USA!
Hope Emo, and the Flyin' Hawaiian score tonight!

Posted by: dadryan | September 10, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

All you naysayers are grass blown by the wind, and the current wind is the "we suck under bradley" crywagon.

3-0 USA, goals by Donovan, Ching and Dempsey, and you'll still complain.

Posted by: saladyears | September 10, 2008 3:55 PM

I already predicted this score (see my post at 1:20pm). And I already predicted your reaction (one of satisfaction). Of course it will mean nothing, and just be a false sense of security to hide under until we get tossed around by "true" competition. When Bradley actually gets some guts and sees beyond the Steve Sampson/'06 Arena way of gameplanning and selecting a roster, then I'll be on board. Until then, he'll be just another conservative US coach trying to save face and failing to see the big picture.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Bosnia-Herzegovina puts the beat down on Estonia! 7-0!

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Nightmare for Croatia, sending off for an elbow on Joe Cole. 2-nil England, Walcott again.

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Rooney, 3-nil

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Now it's Croatia 0-3 England, no Gerrard, no Owen and no Beckham. Capello may just be starting to shape this English squad to his liking and not by the press or sentiment.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Henry puts France up 1-0, and Spain has 2 already through 17.

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Anelka doubles the France lead. Good night for the UEFA big boys (oh, 'cept you Germany)

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Luxemborg 2-1 Switzerland

Posted by: RK | September 10, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Some thoughts on today's scorelines:

- Scotland goal scored by Broadfoot. Didn't see it - could've been a header.

- Bosnia-Herzegovina hat-trick scored by Zviezdan Misimovic. Everybody sing! I like to Misimovic. I like to Misimovic.

- Greece brace scored by Gekas - appearing in the next auto insurance commercial.

- Goals scored today by Ostpenko, Nazarenko, Shevchenko, and Pavluchenko.

- No goals by Dyachenko.

- Moldova's coach advises Victor Golovatenco to take quicker shots.

- Finally [cheers and applause] Miroslav closes the door on Finland's hopes of a win.


New Prediction: USA 1-0. Goal in 2nd half ET by 87th minute sub Natasha Kai.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | September 10, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Croatia 1-4 England Walcott w/ a hat-trick


Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Now it's Croatia 0-3 England, no Gerrard, no Owen and no Beckham. Capello may just be starting to shape this English squad to his liking and not by the press or sentiment.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Shocking. Capello figures out that if something doesn't work, shake it up. Takes out his "proven" guys and inserts "unproven" commodities (Walcott). What a novel idea. Maybe Bob Bradley can learn a thing or two. Or maybe the USSF can find a coach with some imagination. Either would work for me.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Chicago?

"It's a hundred and six miles to Chicago, we got a full tank o' gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark...and we're wearing sunglasses."

"Hit it."

Six an' three is nine
Nine an' nine is eighteen
Look there brother baby and-ah
See what I see
Hi-de-heyyyy, tell me don't you wanna go
Back to that same ol' place
Sweet home, Chicagoooooo...

Posted by: Jake and Elwood | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Takes out his "proven" guys and inserts "unproven" commodities (Walcott). What a novel idea. Maybe Bob Bradley can learn a thing or two.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 4:41 PM

Really? Which young American phenom shall Bradley pluck from the Arsenal starting 11?

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Really? Which young American phenom shall Bradley pluck from the Arsenal starting 11?

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 4:46 PM

In comparison to the man he's replacing, the "young American phenom" doesn't need to be plucked from Arsenal's starting 11. If Brian Ching were Michael Owen's caliber, you wouldn't be hearing me call for his head.

Walcott had 20 starts for Arsenal last year, and 1 start for England in his career. That's "unproven" in comparison to Owen...by a mile.

Meanwhile, Freddy Adu, Charlie Davies, Josy Altidore, etc. have gone further already in their club careers than Brian Ching - the darling of the MLS. There's a reason those guys aren't still playing there and Ching is. Apparently Bradley hasn't figured that out yet.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Michael Owen is a forward and not exactly 100% at the moment. Hardly competition for the winger Walcott, who started in place of David Beckham.

Capello also started Emile "England fans can't stand me because I'm seen as a has-been and underachiever" Heskey. So I don't think your analogy holds.

I think that Adu and Altidore should be given chances as well, but their accomplishments at club level are negligible when compared to the likes of Walcott right now. Fact is, our national side is stale at the moment because the players have not developed at a rate that we would like. But put me in the camp of being happy that they are grinding out results and get the easiest pass in the world to 2010. Let's see what Freddy and Jozy can do there.

Posted by: Kev | September 10, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Alright I wasn't watching the game so I didn't know who Walcott replaced, but the point remains the same. Owen and Beckham are interchangeable in that analogy.

And it's not about comparing Adu/Altidore to Walcott. It's about comparing Adu/Altidore vs. Ching to Walcott vs. Beckham.

At some point, you have to care about more than just getting to the World Cup. The US should be worrying about developing the best team possible. The reward far outweighs the risk - and that includes immediate rewards as well.

Posted by: psps23 | September 10, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

No phenoms necessary at the moment, however, how about Bradley get the stones to switch up formations, put players in their proper positions or even throw in someone who's actually playing (Eddie Johnson?) or playing well (Clint Dempsey?) every now and again?

Canfora is right, our men's team seems to be taking a step back, and the fault lies at the top...Gulati and Bradley Sr.

Posted by: apqjr | September 10, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

I see the comments here about the US as if they were in a crisis. The US have 6 points out of 6, all coming from the road. I agree that their are questionable choices (specifically Ching), but so far they have a perfect record in this phase. Take it easy.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Whoa!!!

Portugal 1-1 Denmark 85'
Portugal have missed many chances and now look to pay for it.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Portugal 2-1 Denmark 87'

Deco Penalty

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Portugal 2-2 Denmark 90'

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

OMG!!


Portugal 2-3 Denmark 90+

Jensen lashes one from 25 yards and it deflects in.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Portugal 2-3 Denmark FT.

Portugal missed many chances and should have put it away; credit to the Danish who never gave up.

Posted by: Red Devil | September 10, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Dude don't be talking about JLC and Redskins Insider on the Soccer Blog God DANG IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIKE, NO ONE CARES ABOUT HIS OPINION ON HERE!

Posted by: dadryan the Redskins Insider player hater. | September 10, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

@ dadryan - LOL!!!!

Posted by: apqjr | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

glad you got it apqjr...
I've got my UGLY USA HOME jerz on and I'm slipping on my mickey mouse ears right NOW!
GO USA!

Posted by: dadryan | September 10, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

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