Americans Abroad

can we get a playoff picture update, what does dc need to get in, also, what is the injury status for next sunday, thanks

Clarence Goodson's team IK Start won promotion to the Tppeligaen on Saturday in Norway amd he played the final 20 minutes coming back from his bout with Mono.

Bradley played 90?! I guess that change of managers really did make a difference. I was worried he was gonna end up like Benny last seeason.

I wonder if "Gringo Torres" will actually stay in Mexico for much longer. Would it be unheard of for him to fall out of favor there just because he's chosen the US?

Michael Orozco?

San Luis (orozco) didn't play

Moenchengladbach has I believe hired their old manager from before. Not sure if Bradley will see time with him. Hopefully he impressed enough in this one match to warrant more time.

How about:

Neven Subotic (90) in Borussia Dortmund's 3-3 tie with Werder Bremen.

@ atl -- DC has 37 points. KC and NY stand ahead of them for the 4th and 5th spots, with 39 points. Ergo, DC needs to beat Columbus and also needs a loss by either KC or NY. I'm pretty sure DC loses the tiebreakers if they finish tied @ 40 points with either team.

I agree with Fisch Fry.

Since Real and Colorado play each other in their final game, today's win by Colorado had no bearing on DC's playoff situation. DC only needs a win in their final game and a loss by either KC or NY.

As I read it, DC is tied with both NY and KC on the first tie breaker (head-to-head) but behind on the second tie breaker (goal differential). So a large (4 or 5 point) win by DC and a tie by KC or NY would also work. DC plays Sunday after NY plays on Thursday and KC on Saturday, so United will know if they need to go this route.

I wonder if "Gringo Torres" will actually stay in Mexico for much longer. Would it be unheard of for him to fall out of favor there just because he's chosen the US?

Posted by: dadryan | October 19, 2008 9:30 PM
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Where would he go? MLS?
I'm pretty sure that's the last thing he'd wanna do.

Coach and players did try to convince him up til the 11th hour to not choose the US though, so anythings possible. He's stated however that he wants his pro career in Mexico and would like to play in europe. I think he sees MLS much like the rest of the world, as an inferior league.

Where would he go? MLS?
I'm pretty sure that's the last thing he'd wanna do.

Coach and players did try to convince him up til the 11th hour to not choose the US though, so anythings possible...

Posted by: Thora | October 20, 2008 3:24 AM
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The interview Torres did with Goff said his club coach told him to do what he felt best, as did his family, so I'm not sure where this "11th hour" business is coming from. Besides, getting 45 minutes with a club like Pachuca isn't too bad, and it certainly does not mean he's on the outs.

Szetela didn't go 90. He came in at the 53' and scored what would be the winning (third) goal to put Brescia up 3-1.

Good to see the progress made by American players like Dempsey, Adu, Altidore and Bradley in getting some playing time. I'm surprised that Adu's had such a struggle getting significant playing time. Glad to hear about Szetela's goal for Brescia!

Highlights for most of these games including the Szetela goal can be seen at watchsocceronline.blogspot.com . You may want to close your eyes when watching Hahnemann and Cherundolo highlights though.

Convey did not dress or play for Reading.

How about Ryan Guy's second half hat trick for St. Patrick's Athletic?

Besides, getting 45 minutes with a club like Pachuca isn't too bad, and it certainly does not mean he's on the outs.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 20, 2008 6:47 AM
I am far from spanish speaking, and just wonder about the tone and context when they're literally calling him "Gringo Torres" every time he touches the ball. Then again that's the dude calling the game and not his coach and fellow players.
I'm just trying to get a read on the general attitude toward him in Mexico at the moment.

Any idea of how Sal Zizzo is doing? he was great for the under 20's.

ive heard other players in mexico called gringo in use with their name, it means nothing. its just a nickname.

Agree with "anonymous" above. The word Gringo has no real negative connotations in Mexican Spanish.

It can be used negatively, positively or (most often) neutrally depending on the context and tone of the statement.

I had a feeling that was the deal. Still curious to see if he continues in a positive direction. This gringo will definitely be more inclined to watch a Pachucha match now that he's pulled on the stars and stripes, I mean white, silver and red...