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Moreno Suspended 2 Games

MLS has determined that DCU captain Jaime Moreno's elbow to Andre Rocha's face Sunday was severe enough to warrant a two-game suspension, the Insider has learned. The red card earned him an automatic one-game ban, but the league's disciplinary committee has added a second match because of the nature of the infraction. He will sit out Saturday's home match against Chivas USA at RFK Stadium and the Oct. 12 encounter at Houston.

Watch the incident by clicking here.

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By Steve Goff  |  October 1, 2008; 1:14 PM ET
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Comments

Bye-Bye Playoffs

Posted by: timmy | October 1, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

lovely, just in keeping with how the character of the entire season has gone.Is it time to begin thinking about next season yet?

Posted by: rob | October 1, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Two game ban is definitely right...at least now we know he's going the full 90 for CCL

Posted by: Skyler | October 1, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Did DCU really deal away their first pick?

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 1, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I think Moreno should know better, well deserved ban even though it screws our chances of making playoffs

Posted by: Mocker | October 1, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

And...l'shana tova

Posted by: FIsch Fry | October 1, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Makes sense. That was a dumb thing for Jamie to do.

Posted by: Jimbo | October 1, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

....sigh

Posted by: AJ | October 1, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The unfortunate part was that it wasn't Blanco/Ruiz on the end of that elbow.

Posted by: swag | October 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Seems to be in line with other suspensions handed out by MLS in the past. Definately not the type of action you'd expect out of your captain (especially with the ref standing right next to you).

Posted by: Crippled Keeper | October 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I think that Moreno got careless more than reckless...Rocha puts his hand on Moreno's shoulder. I'm guessing Moreno probably meant to sweep Rocha away, but got careless -- elbow high. Not only out of character, it doesn't make sense.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 1, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

What HAPPENED to these guys?!? Did bringing in that many new players screw up the team dynamics that much to put them in the situation they're in now? Wow...

Posted by: Juan-John | October 1, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, there's little to say as an argument. Whether it was just careless or intentional, I can't say I'm surprised.

Getting into the playoffs now would actually be amongst the most impressive accomplishments in club history, when taken in context.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 1, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Well, now he's available for the Bolivian team. (For all you conspiracy theorists out there.)

Posted by: Karen | October 1, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Seems to me the Jaime just wanted to go sit on the bench. How does he do that right in front of the ref? C'mon he had enough of the game and season was thinking about the Bolivia call up figuring here's an easy way to avoid League game and be available for Bolivia on 10/11 and 10/15. How else can you rationalize the elbow?

Season is over. Actually this will help firm up Soehn's exit. Now Payne and Kasper need to do their homework early on and get things in place by January with good solid choice in head coach. Any early candidates that strike you as a good choice?

Posted by: glove | October 1, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping this would be about Alejandro Moreno.

Posted by: anotherbodymurdered | October 1, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

"Season is over. Actually this will help firm up Soehn's exit. Now Payne and Kasper need to do their homework early on and get things in place by January with good solid choice in head coach. Any early candidates that strike you as a good choice?

Posted by: glove | October 1, 2008 1:54 PM"

Only one man can bring this team TOGETHER and get them playing football the DC United way.

Marco Etcheverry

Posted by: El Diablo | October 1, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Steve - any word on the extent of Emilio's injury?

Posted by: pat | October 1, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Ben Olsen for Head Coach!

Posted by: Soy United! | October 1, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Well this is just a sheer delight.

Posted by: iammrben | October 1, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What HAPPENED to these guys?!? Did bringing in that many new players screw up the team dynamics that much to put them in the situation they're in now? Wow...

Posted by: Juan-John | October 1, 2008 1:45 PM
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You are absolutely correct.

It's funny that in May/June, a lot of people said this year was just another "slow start". Well guess what? It's October!

This was a train wreck from the beginning. As I mentioned in the past, Gallardo does not fit our system. Most of the surrounding players are not good enough to work off of his plays. It really doesn't matter considering how many games he's missed. As I said, most of the surrounding players aren't good enough.

I love how Burch boots the ball up field every time it comes his way to a slow Emilio who has no shot at winning the ball. Does anyone actually believe he's 29? It's a dreadful cycle.

What happened to all the fans that thought blowing up the team was a good idea? Funny how they've disappeared. I'm fed up with Soehn and the FO decisions.

For all you haters, I'm a fan and I'm entitled to be pi$$ed.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Not great video, but you'd have to say it looked like an intentional elbow to the face. So yeah, I'd have to agree with the suspension. What you can't tell from the video is how hard he really hit the guy. I mean, it could have been a longer suspension if the guy really got hurt.

Posted by: Matte | October 1, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And for the record...I'll be one of the 10 United fans at RFK tonight.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Any other respectable league has a 3 match ban for straight reds.

Posted by: season's over | October 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

The team building strategy of overage stars mixed with lesser known but hard-working journey man has failed. The team lost its cohesion due to the skill and pay disparities among the players. The high-roller Gallardo and Emilio do not fit with the rest of the team.

Moreno is just frustrated. He remebers the old days. Now, Moreno is just disgusted with the entire situation. He needs a rest. The franchise needs new managerial blood, including in the coach position.

Build new, young and cheep. Then in a couple of seasons you have a Houston or Columbus. These last two teams are the model for soccer not the US footbal/basebal model. Soccer is a youngmen's game.

Posted by: John | October 1, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I have faith, we will make the playoffs

Posted by: Ian | October 1, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

@John:

first off, Houston does not exactly have a young team, or a cheap one. I don't know if DeRosario is making DP money, but he's got to be in the ball park, as does Ching. And they've definitely got some guys on the pitch who are getting long in the tooth.

Columbus is not a poster child for anything except futility. They're having one great season, but they've suffered through more tragic ones.

Houston, New England and DCU have got to be held up as the class of the league. They consistetnly field competitive teams. New England and Houston rely more on the draft than DCU does, but all three teams have done a good job identifying talent, both foreign and domestic and at varying levels of experience and commensurate compensation.

Bottom line: effective talent evaluation is the only way to be successful in any sport in any league.

Posted by: Matte | October 1, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

We've got 4 picks in the first 2 rounds. Hope it's a strong draft...

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 1, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

That is complete BS. It wasn't that bad of an elbow. He was just trying to get him off. Not what DC needed. Least he will get some rest.

Posted by: Krista | October 1, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

What HAPPENED to these guys?!? Did bringing in that many new players screw up the team dynamics that much to put them in the situation they're in now? Wow...

Posted by: Juan-John | October 1, 2008 1:45 PM

Good point. DCU constantly shifts the roster season-after-season with players outside of the league at a much higher rate that any of the teams currently sitting in the play-off spots.

The cramped schedule and thin roster are definitely explanations for DCU's spotty record this year; however, given that Houston deals with the same roster/salary limitations and has played MORE games than most, Houston's record in all competitions seems to suggest there is more to it.

Look at DCU's roster for the number of players with over 3-years MLS experience - 4 players.

Look at Houston's roster for the number of players with over 3-years MLS experience - 11 players.

Posted by: Mickey | October 1, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Letting Gomez go was a mistake. Was he the team MVP last year? No but he carried the weight and scored goals that won some games when it counted... those instances are things we desperately needed this year.

Posted by: Darth Hater | October 1, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

@N. Daknow
DC on-the-field play has nothing to do with Gallardo. The dude hasn't been on the field that much to cause problems. Now if you say signing him financially crippled the team, I'll agree with you.

What does Emilio's age have to do with anything? He did score all those goals last year, right? You can blame the difference on the quality of service he gets but not on getting 1 year older.

Posted by: Bart | October 1, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

i was hoping this would be about knowshon moreno

Posted by: greginho | October 1, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

can't add anything else to what others have said: this goose is cooked.

Time to start retooling for next year. Here's a motto for 2009: New coach, new attitude, no Superliga!

Posted by: downtown | October 1, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

That foul is indeed worthy of a 2-game suspension. Come on, the ref was right there!

Posted by: Bart | October 1, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

RE; the Draft. What are the chances that Marcus Tracy will be around or DC can trade up for him???

Posted by: DaveyB | October 1, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

i blame the supporter groups...

especially the ones with self esteem issues

Posted by: Anonymous | October 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

A one game suspension is warranted, but two games is way over board. If you watch Rocha he over emblishes the elbow big time. This league is a joke. Blanco assualts people by spitting on them and Ruiz is constantly playing dirty, but they don't get this kind of attention. It's a major joke!

Posted by: Garber | October 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the Elbow was intentional. Unfortunate but the season is already gone.

Check out this site www.minute91.com, it is a new up-and coming soccer site and it is proving a BLOG from the DC game tonight

Posted by: Adam | October 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Straining to see the glass half-full, we have our CCL playmaker (Moreno) and our MLS playmaker (Gallardo) for the next four games.

Seriously though, those of you who want to throw Soehn under the bus, how does Kasper escape your wrath? Didn't he build this mess? As for Soehn, his lot was cast last year when he gave up on Bobby Boswell. If Boswell plays for DCU this year as he's played for Houston, the defense is much better - Boswell would be a better CB than anyone we have, and they might have had to look elsewhere for a keeper besides Wells.

One last thing - let's please stop with the game congession argument. Guess what folks - like it or not we're in the CCL again next year. At least we won't have to worry about SuperLiga.

Posted by: BillyBob | October 1, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

BillyBob - you forgot to add CONCACAF Champions Cup to next season as well... that's two international tournaments that won't be clogging the schedule next season like this season...

Posted by: Mickey | October 1, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not it was intentional, it's a moot point now. What's done is done. With the officiating this season, I'm not surprised that it was a straight red, nor am I surprised that it was a 2 game suspension, although, I do disagree with the two match ban.

I just ran into Soehn, just now. He said "Hi" to all the haters out there. :)

Although I do disagree with some of his decisions (letting Dychenko play) I do not blame him totally. It's just as much the players fault as it is his.

Look at the team and tell me we do not have any talent on the team. Moreno, Gallardo, Peralta, Martinez, Tino, Fred, etc. Those players should make any team look great. Some of these players, on the team, are not playing up to their full potential.

With the injuries that DC has had to deal with, it's not strange, in my eyes at least, that we are struggling so much. Our bench needs to be strengthened. Now, is the perfect time to get some of these younger players out there and prove to the coach/FO what they are made of and why they deserve to wear the United kits.

Posted by: dogboy | October 1, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Mickey:

No CONC Cup anymore. CCL is the only CONC tournament.

Posted by: Todd | October 1, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Gallardo v Donovan @ RFK was much worse (or better, depending on your view of Landycakes).

Two games is a little much as it wasn't that vicious, in my opinion.

Posted by: delantero | October 1, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Park's closed. Moose out front shoulda told ya.

Posted by: John Candy | October 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

What does Emilio's age have to do with anything? He did score all those goals last year, right? You can blame the difference on the quality of service he gets but not on getting 1 year older.

Posted by: Bart | October 1, 2008 2:36 PM

I can't argue with anything you wrote...the knock on his age is just because it's pretty apparent that they've shaved some years.

My actual analysis...he was slow last year! Difference is the ball was around the box a lot more thanks to Gomez and Olsen. Can't argue that Emilio has a knack for the goal. This year our team doesn't have the skill to push up as a unit. We lose the ball to frequently. We end up playing a longball to Emilio, which exposes his lack of speed, lack of passing, inability to hold the ball until support arrives, and his inability to create on his own.

Emilio does not work well in our current system, which exposes his flaws. Just like Gomez doesn't work well in Colorado, where he's required to run a tremendous amount at that altitude.

Regardless, our FO has not done its job in creating a system that leverages the players talents while clearly identifying a style.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Letting Gomez go was a mistake. Was he the team MVP last year? No but he carried the weight and scored goals that won some games when it counted... those instances are things we desperately needed this year.

Posted by: Darth Hater | October 1, 2008 2:36 PM
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I had thought we let this go? Gomez hasn't done much in Colorado, now has he? Gallardo has scored some pretty amazing goals, when he's been out on the field.

I have heard, don't quote me on this, but I've heard that the FO is trying to force Gallardo to play a different style of football than he's used/played all his career.

If this is, in fact, true, then there does need to be some head's rolling.

Posted by: dogboy | October 1, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

You don't think that elbow was intentional. So Jaime saying it was stupid doesn't mean anything?? It was stupid and now he sits for two games (out of four). Great move for a captain to make. Well what am I saying, he gives Gallardo the armband when he goes out of games so taht is enough to tell me that captain on this team means nothing.

And Soehn may have to go but I know for sure that Kaspar should go. He is an IDIOT.

Posted by: Seriously | October 1, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

For all you haters/whiners/

This team was never supposed to have Santino Starting as a CENTER MID (he's an MLS cast off who was supposed to be a coming off the bench type). . . with Dyachenko getting tons of minutes and a revolving door on defense and midfield because of injuries to key players . . .

This is not the time to fire the coach and rid United of players . . .

Remember our slow start was followed by a great run ending with a thrashing of LA and an Open Cup victory against Chicago . . . then Peralta/Gallardo had surgeries and Superliga/August lead to more injuries (Fred, Vide, Moreno, etc) . . .

If by luck of the Irish we make the playoffs and the team gets healthy, I'd hate to play us.

Posted by: delantero | October 1, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I had thought we let this go? Gomez hasn't done much in Colorado, now has he? Gallardo has scored some pretty amazing goals, when he's been out on the field.

I have heard, don't quote me on this, but I've heard that the FO is trying to force Gallardo to play a different style of football than he's used/played all his career.

If this is, in fact, true, then there does need to be some head's rolling.

Posted by: dogboy | October 1, 2008 3:25 PM

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Take a look at my post at 3:23.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Remember our slow start was followed by a great run ending with a thrashing of LA and an Open Cup victory against Chicago . . . then Peralta/Gallardo had surgeries and Superliga/August lead to more injuries (Fred, Vide, Moreno, etc) . . .

If by luck of the Irish we make the playoffs and the team gets healthy, I'd hate to play us.

Posted by: delantero | October 1, 2008 3:29 PM

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@delantero

LMAO...you're joking right???

Same LA team that didn't win in 14 or so games???

Same US Open Cup where most MLS teams benched their starters???

You're an easy fan to please.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

@delantero:
I agree with everything except hanging onto Soehn. I've not seen the team, in two years, play anything like the way they played for Nowak. Soehn hasn't been terrible, but I want to see "outstanding".

Posted by: Matte | October 1, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@N. Daknow:
Gallardo and Moreno and Fred were really starting to play well together when the injury bug struck. Add Guererro into that picture, and I think you've got a pretty fearsome attack.

Delantero isn't saying that he's pleased with this year, but rather that the solution isn't to scrap the whole roster and start over.

If we can get a solid net minder (maybe that's Crayton) and shore up the central D, we should be ok next year. In fact, I'd say more than ok. Probably excellent.

Posted by: Matte | October 1, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

N Daknow,

Sorry, I'm just not the sky is falling type. Name a team that has had as many injuries to key players as we've had and has played as many games . . . not so many are there?

If Houston loses DeRo, Ching, Robinson and Holden and etc like we've lost Gallardo, Moreno, Olsen, Peralta . . they'd have a hard time beating anyone.

And Chicago (whom we beat 2-1 at Chicago in MLS play in June) rested as many starters against us as we did (Dyachenko started that USOC). Check your facts.

So, yeah, we're all disappointed in our September play, but let's be realistic.

At this point, all you throw in the towel types should recognize that you are fair weather fans and skip the next month of matches.

Posted by: delantero | October 1, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

@delantero

Don't get upset because i expect more from them than you do. It doesn't make me fairweather. They're still my team and I'll continue to support them.

We've got talent but we don't have a style conducive to our success. You're only fooling yourself if you think that bringing back the same coach and the same players next year will lead to a 180. Something has to give.

Don't make me start talking about Gallardo being a distributor and not an attacking mid. Gallardo and Emilio will never work.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Also, LA was riding a six(?) game unbeaten streak before we disassembled them back in June to go on ours. The LA Galaxy, which were actually leading the Western Conference when we met. The LA Galaxy which lead the league in goals for (and against).

Yes, that LA Galaxy

Posted by: AJ | October 1, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Im sure Colorado will be happy to return both Gomez and Erpen, for a bit of a fee... of course.

Too many games, too many old players, and too few talented young players. Also, a coach that doesn't seem to really have it.

Posted by: Hacksaw | October 1, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

@AJ

So you're saying they're the class of the league???
Alright then. That's what I thought.

I'm honestly tired of arguing with you all about this. A season is not measured in a stretch of games (some may argue Oct&Nov until we see a single table with no playoffs). We've been terrible this season. I'm not happy that they blew up this team last off season. We are only speculating on where we'll be next season and what will be done to get there.

If you think we're good because we had one good stretch then I'd rather not argue with you. Catch you on the next post. 2 fingers.

Posted by: N. Daknow | October 1, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

1. I have no problem with the suspension. I doubt it was intentional or aimed to hurt (ala much of Ruiz' actions). But an elbow at face height is an elbow and deserves extra time out beyond the 1 game suspension. Jaime himself indicated that he lost his cool.

2. I can't believe the simplistic arguments that other teams are more successful because they're younger or have more MLS experience--bah! I think our situation boils down to this:
--our defense has been terrible all season. Lots of MLS experience and youth there (Carroll, Namoff, McTavish, Wells, Simms, and Burch are all MLS vets, none are old and if MLS had 4 Best XI, none of them would make one). Our best defender this year was probably Gonzalo Martinez. I think the defensive problems are a combination of poor coaching, Wells deflating the rest of the team and probably under-investing in the backline (much of the season we were starting a back 6 of all MLS minimum or near minimum salaries).
--team leadership. We missed Olsen. A lot.
--the combination of many games led to injuries which led to bad form. At probably 3 points this season (beginning, when Superliga started and right now) were might have been the worst team in the league in terms of how we played (sloppy defense, incoherent attack, no runs off the ball, players losing patience).

For those who hold up Houston as the gold standard, remember that first, they've not won a SS. I commend them for their championships but they've shown themselves to be a good team that is both fortunate and turns it on come playoff time. And the most defining element of Houston is they've always had a great defense. They're always in EVERY game, you never beat them 3 or 4-zip (unlike some matches we've had, especially this year). A great defense that limits the other team to 1 score means you can still wins against the run of play. And as for Columbus, they've got the MVP (Schelotto) who has truly been a tour de force this season. And success breeds more success so they make runs off the ball, defend sharply, punish teams for mistakes. They're not winning because they're young, they're winning because they play GREAT team soccer.

And as for the folks who argue we should have re-signed Gomez, please stop with the revisionist history. Goff reported it all. Gomez got angry because his teammates picked Emilio above him. The team kept extending the deadline for signing him. But Gomez burned his bridges, said terrible things and left badly. The team would have re-signed him if they could. As it is, he functions best in a 5 man midfield and we don't have the personnel to make that work well now. Our problems haven't come from A-mid and it does no good to make Gallardo a scapegoat either. We're 3rd in the league in goals scored despite the injuries to Gallardo, Moreno, Emilio, Olsen, Fred, Quaranta, and Doe (and the failure of Niel). We're where we are this year because our defense has continually let us down to the point where the team has fallen apart trying to compensate.

Posted by: JoeW | October 1, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

N. Daknow:

I have to disagree on a couple of points. Declaring this "a train wreck from the beginning" means you are either discounting or have forgotten this stretch:

5/24 - Toronto (Win, 3-2)
5/29 - @ NE (Tie, 2-2)
6/7 - @ Chicago (Win, 2-1)
6/14 - NY (Win, 4-1)
6/22 - San Jose (Win, 3-1)
6/29 - LA (Win, 4-1)
7/1 - Rochester (Win, 2-0)
7/8 - Chicago (Win, 2-1 AET)

Things fell apart when injuries started to take hold and it was revealed that our reserve players were a) not good enough with possession or decision-making to play the attractive style of the first-choice guys and b) they were not particularly good at a defensive style, either.

That's a minor quibble, since the team was fit before that and took forever to get going. The more major disagreement I have with you pertains to the following statement:

"As I mentioned in the past, Gallardo does not fit our system. Most of the surrounding players are not good enough to work off of his plays."

What this argument says to me is that the solution is to get a player of lower ability as our playmaker. It also implies that Soehn has a specific system, and that the only players that can play with good players are other good players.

I don't think Soehn has a system. He just wants to get the best out of the available players. If our best 2 central midfielders happened to both be defensive midfielders, they would start. If we were best suited to play a Wimbledon-style 433 with long balls galore, Soehn would send out that team. He's shifted tactics several times, and on a number of occasions it's improved things markedly. I'd say his rate of success with tactical shifts has been above average within MLS.

The point I'm getting at is that there is no system that you can say we always play with, which makes the claim that Gallardo doesn't fit it bunk. There is a loose set of ideas the team aspires to (possession-based attack, look to break teams down through combinations, relatively little wing play compared to the rest of MLS), but they're hardly a rigid system. If there's one obvious and key difference between Soehn and Nowak, it's that Soehn is much more willing to change things.

After the lengthy adjustment period to begin the season, the other players began getting on the same wavelength as Gallardo and the results bore that out. It's difficult to argue that the players were not good enough to understand Gallardo during this horrible run (our record from after that last win above is 5-11-2 in all competitions), because Gallardo has played only 15 minutes during that time. That would be like blaming our poor play on Thorpe.

The only argument against Gallardo that I've seen that's reasonable is that his $400K on the cap could have been spread out into 3 or 4 high-end but not brilliant players. That much is true, though there's no guarantee that our $100K-$200K signings would have been a success. It would probably have been a wise thing to do given the crushing schedule.

Your later points on Emilio are a pretty accurate reading of Lucigol, though I'd again point out that when the team was firing on all cylinders, we were moving forward as a unit and he was scoring as often as he was last year. You're right when you say Emilio will never thrive in a long ball environment; he's not fast, not particularly imposing physically, and his first touch exposes the ball too much for him to ever do well playing like that.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 1, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@N.Daknow: Not trying to pile on, but for someone who thought DCU beat Rochester to win the Open Cup, you couldn't possibly feel your in a position to provide analysis on who was on the bench in any round of the tournament. Could you?

Posted by: dadryan | October 1, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"Gomez hasn't done much in Colorado, now has he?"

He had a goal and an assist in the game versus DCU. I think we would like to have those points right now.

I don't think you should compare his form at Colorado with the form he would display here. I think the Rapids decided that kicking the ball over the midfield was their best option. That strategy does not include someone as talented as Gomez.

The Gomez saga still mystifies me. I can't figure out how the front office let the best player on the team get to the point where he wouldn't sign a contract under any conditions.

A diminished (from last years performance) would still be much better that what we got out of Gallardo or Veron. Gomez made this team go. His last game against Chicago should be testament enough to his heart and character.

Posted by: Hey Dogboy | October 1, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Steven Gerrard hit's the century mark!

Posted by: dadryan | October 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

My mistake for trying to discuss things with someone who holds a different view. Have I learned nothing from our national political discourse?

I don't want to pile on, but I just don't get someone coming in, holding strongly-stated opinions, and then declaring that anyone who disagrees is not worth talking to.

Posted by: Chest Rockwell | October 1, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

New players, high priced DP, injuries in a busy schedule, and so on, are easy to identify in hind sight. I don't think any of us were harping on these at the beginning of the season (well probably someone on this blog did).

What worries me more than the two game suspension is the fact that it came from a veteran player known for his composure. There must be a huge amount of frustration that's eating away at the team for Moreno to have reacted like that. Moreno's unavailabilty won't kill our chance of being in the playoffs - the frustration will.

This is where a great coach will make the difference. If Sohen wants to put all us nay sayers in our place, he will have to step in and rally the troops. Otherwise, this is the one time he will have really failed the team.

Vamos Sohen! Vamos United!

Posted by: ML | October 1, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

@N. Daknow

I understand where your coming from, however, comparing the stats from last season to this season, Emillio has scored 11 goals so far this season. Gomez 3. Gomez has 6 assists this season. Last season, Gomez was 10 goals and 9 assist, whereas Emillio had 20 goals, can't remember for the life of me how many assists.

By comparison, I would think that Emillio is having a better season than Gomez is. Yes, Gomez was one who placed the ball, perfectly, for Emillio, however, the fact remains. Gomez does not play for DC United. What's done is done. Gomez didnt want to stay.

Yes, Gallardo's style is different than Gomez's style, but does it mean that Gallardo's an ineffective player for DC? I dont think so. He's not been healthy. In 14 games he's played in for DC, he's scored 4 goals, with 3 assists. Gomez, 20 games, 3 goals 6 assists.

That being said, the one thing I do believe in, consistancy. How will the team get better if we continue to change things around. Look at the capitals for a moment. They have kept, essentially, the same team for the past few years. Have gone from a crappy team that was the joke of the NHL to a team that is to be feared.

It takes time to get the consistancy that is needed. With all the injuries we've had, it's hard to work on that consistancy.

Those are just my thoughts. :)

Posted by: dogboy | October 1, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

My one huge gripe about this season is that Soehn is consistently saying "We came out flat" in the first, second halves or maybe it was just a few minutes . . .

That can be an excuse for mid-July heat after a stretch, but against FC Dallas in a must win game? BS. If this team doesn't realize by now that 90 minutes is 90 minutes and you have to go full on, then they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

And I put that blame squarely on Soehn.

Right now it's 3 games against playoff teams and 1 against Chivs

Posted by: delantero | October 1, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I wish we could've kept Kasal and Arguez- maybe we could try developing players for once.

Posted by: Taylor | October 1, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

How about just conceding that the rest of the league has caught up with United, and they haven't done a very good job of adjusting. The one thing i've noticed that DC has not done very well at over the last two years is the draft. I know bringing in overseas talent is important, but you got to have good role players, and thats where having a good eye for the college kids helps. Hopefully, DCU will be back next year. To me, the league is better when they are playing at a high level.

Posted by: SonicDeathMonkey | October 1, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Chest I actually didn't read what you wrote at all, I was just messing with N. Daknow about a funny comment he made a month ago about DCU beating Rochester. My comment was on the screen for a while before I submitted it.
N. Daknow is a DCU fan for sure, he just gets some of the facts a little skewed. That doesn't mean he's not fun to talk to.
I was just giving him one of those, haven't seen you around in a while back slaps.
Vamos United!!
Let's Go!

Posted by: dadryan | October 1, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

I don't think you should compare his form at Colorado with the form he would display here. I think the Rapids decided that kicking the ball over the midfield was their best option. That strategy does not include someone as talented as Gomez.

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Have you watched a Rapids game since they benched Gomez? Not exactly playing longball. He just sucks. Hopefully it's not a health or drug issue, but he provides no more than a half of work and then he disappears. At least Donovan - who also disappears - scores some goals.

Posted by: Hacksaw | October 1, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

It was probably a deserved red, I won't give up hope until we are mathematically out of the playoffs :)

Posted by: GoUnited | October 1, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

@ Taylor, and apropos of my earlier comment on the draft -- DCU will have a great opportunity to mine some young talent in the offseason -- with two 1st rd picks, and two 2nd rd. picks. The first pick might even be one of the top 3 or 4 picks. Consequently, our coaching staff should be geared to teaching and developing these young players, to develop a foundation for the future. Also, a greater emphasis needs to be placed on player fitness.

I'm not saying that Soehn is or is not the answer -- just voicing my views on the parameters that the FO should be considering.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 1, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Fisch Fry,

Good thinking.

Posted by: B.A. | October 1, 2008 8:21 PM | Report abuse

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