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Morning Kickaround

*Read my print-edition story about the U.S. national team's Mexican-Americans.

*As we told you the other day, USA defender Jay DeMerit hasn't been training. The diagnosis is a hamstring strain and he will not be available for the two qualifiers.

*John Terry will miss England's qualifier against Kazakhstan tomorrow, while Belarus star Alexander Hleb might not be ready for his nation's qualifier against England on Wednesday.

*DCU-Saprissa video:

*Firpo 1, Pumas 1:

*RSL opens its new stadium with a 1-1 tie against New York, further muddling the MLS playoff picture:

*In case you were wondering, entering last night's RSL game, here's how the Galaxy could have been eliminated from MLS playoff contention this weekend:

-- LA loses to Colorado on Sunday AND Real Salt Lake and New York tie OR Real Salt Lake defeats New York OR Dallas defeats Toronto on Saturday OR if D.C. United, Kansas City and New York win AND Dallas ties Toronto.
-- LA ties Colorado on Sunday AND Real Salt Lake wins AND Dallas wins.

Got it? Bottom line: The Galaxy needs to beat the Rapids on Sunday to keep alive its slim hopes.

*College soccer of note today: No. 1 Notre Dame women (12-0) at No. 16 Georgetown (8-0-2) at 3 p.m., the No. 12 Maryland men (8-3, 2-2 ACC) at Virginia Tech (4-6-1, 0-4) at 7 p.m. and No. 18 Virginia, which is 7-3 overall and tied with Wake Forest atop the ACC at 3-0, hosts Clemson (3-4-2, 2-1-1), at 7 p.m.

By Steve Goff  |  October 10, 2008; 9:53 AM ET
Categories:  2010 World Cup , CONCACAF , College Soccer , D.C. United , MLS  
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Comments

Country First? Doesn't the selection of Torres and Orozco signal a Change in USSF player selection? :-)

Thanks for giving us the facts on his "non-selection" for the Olympic team.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 10, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

It's about time the USSF started heavily recruiting Mexican-American players. I don't think U.S. soccer will hit the big time until we develop talented players from all walks of life in the U.S.

Posted by: SSMD | October 10, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps we can get Christian Miles to offer his insight/clarify LA's playoff picture...

Posted by: dcarmy | October 10, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The Dodgers need to beat the Phillies on the road home and then win out at home.

Posted by: Christian Miles | October 10, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

@ I-270 -- not sure what you mean. The Mexican-Americans are hyphenated-Americans like any other. Like Giuseppe Rossi -- except that we were able to keep them in the fold. The only change is that the huge numbers of the Mexican migration mean we will be seeing more of this border-hopping. Unless, you are only just trying to be politically cute...

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 10, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Unless, you are only just trying to be politically cute...

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 10, 2008 11:37 AM
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I was shootin' for Sarah Palin adorable, but youbetcha I'll take cute.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Umm, Saprissa was way, way off on the second goal. How did that flag not go up? Astounding. He was even behind Wells! Unless two United defenders were standing off screen on the end line, then that's an outrageous no-call. Awful.

All in all, at least it's a result.

Posted by: Reston, Va. | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Make no mistake, these guys are American. They were born here and grew up here. Not many people complained about Dooley, Stewart, and Regis (until they saw him play) and their connection was far more tenuous.

Posted by: ck | October 10, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Get out and support the Hoya Women and their excellent coach Dave Nolan (a fellow Liverpool supporter)

Posted by: Liverbird | October 10, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

The last quote from Torres really struck me. This is not an easy decision for these guys and I obviously hope more make the same choice.

Thanks to both Torres and Orozco for taking the leap and hopefully changing things for the better of US Soccer. Its never easy being the first at anything, so thank you.

Posted by: Thank you JFT | October 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

ck - I see nothing the least bit "tenuous" about the US eligibility of any of the players you mention. They are all US citizens. Nothing else does, or should, matter.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think Regis circa 98-00 wouldn't at least be fighting for a starting spot on the current US team.

Posted by: JDO | October 10, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Reston,

watching the computer feed last night I was pretty sure the 2nd Saprissa goal should have been offsides, but now I think it was legit.

The key thing is that the scorer was even or behind the ball when his teammate headed the ball. Although there were probably not 2 defenders between the scorer and the goalline at this point he was onside because he was even or behind the ball.

Posted by: garbaggio | October 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Cheech & Chong | October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Jay DeMerit is always in trouble?

Posted by: Joe Doc | October 10, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: garbaggio | October 10, 2008 12:26 PM


Absolutely spot on....


It took a number of views to realize that this is the correct read on the call.

Posted by: JkR | October 10, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Here's an interesting tidbit from today's online Post:

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty said during an appearance on "Washington Post Live" Thursday evening on Comcast SportsNet that he wants to have the Washington Redskins back playing in D.C. "as fast as humanly possible."

Fenty (D) said it "was a big mistake" when the city allowed the team to leave for its stadium in Landover, now named FedEx Field, where it began playing in 1997. Fenty said discussions have begun with the Redskins but refused to attach a timetable to the franchise's potential move back to the city.

"We want to get that done," Fenty said. "But that is an expensive, longer-term project, but one we're working on. The Redskins should play in Washington, D.C. I think it would be great to have a brand-new stadium, one that could accommodate a Super Bowl. So stay tuned."

http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2008/10/fenty-vows-to-have-redskins-back-in-city.html


Sounds oddly familiar to this:

"Thank you Kevin for this D.C. United jersey and congratulations on your terrific season. It is great to see over 20,000 fans here at RFK supporting D.C. United. It is my hope that your fans will soon be coming to your brand new soccer stadium at Poplar Point in Anacostia. World class fans, and a world class team like D.C. United, deserve a world class stadium. And I am going to make it a priority to help you build that stadium. Thank you -- congratulations and good luck to the Black-and-Red!"

-Adrian Fenty on Oct 29 2006 (right before a mayoral election mind you)

link to full article: http://www.mlsnet.com/news/team_news.jsp?ymd=20061031&content_id=77524&vkey=news_dcu&fext=.jsp&team=t103


All this Fenty guy does is blow smoke to try to get more votes. What a pathetic clown. Though not typical of elected officials.

Posted by: Media Watch Dog Guy | October 10, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Fenty is a moran.
What the hell RSL fans waiving white hankies when their team scored? In other parts of the world that's dissapproving the team or action on the fiedl.

Posted by: td | October 10, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Get out and support the Hoya Women and their excellent coach Dave Nolan (a fellow Liverpool supporter)

Posted by: Liverbird | October 10, 2008 11:57 AM
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I am trying to!!! They had to postpone two games last week due to Norovirus...

Posted by: yankiboy | October 10, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Hey Goff,

In an earlier post you brought up the sportsmanship issue with Kirk on the ground with an injury when Saprissa scored the tying goal.

At least from the video, Kirk is nowhere to be seen. Could it be that he was behind the play and then it become an issue of gamesmanship when a player behind the play claims they have an injury?

In the Dynamo game last week, the other team dribble past a player on the ground(!!!!) to score a goal. That was poor sportsmanship!

Posted by: Sushant | October 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Make no mistake, these guys are American. They were born here and grew up here. Not many people complained about Dooley, Stewart, and Regis (until they saw him play) and their connection was far more tenuous.

Posted by: ck | October 10, 2008 11:46 AM
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It always cracks me up when people go down this road about those particualr guys.

Dooley's dad was a Yank. Ernie's dad is a Yank. That makes them Yanks.

What is so tricky about that?

There is nothing "tenuos" about your blood or a valid (as opposed to for shady/alterior motives) marriage.

Orozca and Torres are ours. TheyIt's all good.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Make no mistake, these guys are American. They were born here and grew up here. Not many people complained about Dooley, Stewart, and Regis (until they saw him play) and their connection was far more tenuous.

Posted by: ck | October 10, 2008 11:46 AM
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It always cracks me up when people go down this road about those particualr guys.

Dooley's dad was a Yank. Ernie's dad is a Yank. That makes them Yanks.

What is so tricky about that?

There is nothing "tenuos" about your blood or a valid (as opposed to for shady/alterior motives) marriage.

Orozca and Torres are ours. TheyIt's all good.

Posted by: yanki | October 10, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Could it be that he was behind the play and then it become an issue of gamesmanship when a player behind the play claims they have an injury?

Posted by: Sushant | October 10, 2008 1:20 PM

Saprissa took 2 attacks with Kirk lying there, the seond one that scored was directly into his area of responsibility.

Understandable (a little) that they maintained the attack the first time, but after the mini clearance, they looked at him, and played it into his area. Pretty low.

More so, the ref needs to stop when the injury was to the head, which I think was the case here. Neither happened.

Posted by: JkR | October 10, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

In the Dynamo game last week, the other team dribble past a player on the ground(!!!!) to score a goal. That was poor sportsmanship!

Posted by: Sushant | October 10, 2008 1:20 PM
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If the injured player is lying in his own penalty area, you should kick the ball into his arm to get a PK. If he is not lying in the area, drag him in.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 10, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Do you think Jay DeMerit is always in trouble?

Posted by: Joe Doc | October 10, 2008 12:39 PM
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Groan.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I didn't get that until I-270's response...

Posted by: RK | October 10, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

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