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Show Us the Money!

Salary figures (based on an annual contract) for several of the players who signed with MLS in the past couple months:

Brian McBride, Chicago: $164,000 base/$189,000 guaranteed
Dejair, Chivas USA: 96,000/185,000
Pat Noonan, Columbus: 175,000/175,000
Cory Gibbs, Colorado: 96,000/103,000
Louis Crayton, D.C. United: 168,000/176,000
Tristan Bowen, Los Angeles: 45,000/76,000
Eddie Lewis, Los Angeles: 108,000/114,000
Gabriel Badilla, New England: 138,000/138,000
Macoumda Kandji, New York: 36,000/57,000
Will Johnson, Real Salt Lake: 39,000/52,000

and finally.....

Clint Mathis, RSL: 99,999.96/99,999.96
Update: No funny back story here, unfortunately. His deal is for 100,000, but then broken into monthly payments of 8,333.33, his "salary" comes out to the above figure.

For the complete list, which includes an odd blank spot next to Kasey Keller's name for Seattle (2009), click here.

By Steve Goff  |  October 14, 2008; 1:35 PM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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Surprised about McBride's salary

Posted by: CD | October 14, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

What does Clint Mathis have to do for those 4 extra cents???

Posted by: bob | October 14, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Gibbs a real bargain at that price. Crayton, god live him, not so much.

Posted by: JkR | October 14, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHA! I bet money if that figure for Clint is true its what he asked for as a joke in honor of Ali G when he was interviewing someone and asking if their super computers could calculate 999999999.999999 wait I'm not done 999 5 999999 6 9999 4 9999. The guy kept telling him "yes, it can" and he would continue... "but wait, TIMES 999999999499993999999495999999" lol

Posted by: Felix | October 14, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

McBride deserves a heck of a lot more than that. He must really have wanted to come back to the US. I'd trade any player on my team for him, regardless of the team.

Posted by: Hacksaw | October 14, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Mathis is a goofy, goofy guy.

Posted by: Golazo | October 14, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I think i threw up in my mouth a bit when I saw that Kirk is making more than 100k when Santino is only rocking 35k

Posted by: Kevin | October 14, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Letting Troy Perkins go vs giving him a raise sure looks like a dumb move right now given his appearance in the USMNT camps and the Crayton+Wells salary numbers.

BRING BACK TROY!

Posted by: RP | October 14, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Kasey Keller is obviously gonna take over joe cannon spot as highest paid goal keeper.

Posted by: The Jim | October 14, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Emilio 720k?????
Gallardo 1.5m????

ANd our best and most decorated Moreno 275k?

THis is got to be a fricking JOKE!!!

Posted by: oohhhh he!! NOoo | October 14, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

@ Kevin

THats because Kirk is a Generation Adidas

Posted by: 135 | October 14, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

A few people on that list give new perspective on McFarlane's comments about "We paid to be bad"....and no I am not talking about Gallardo ( Olsen)


Perhaps the front office will more strongly consider paying the 100-200K salaries to Us born players who worked their way up and paid their dues their first few years. A more balanced salry across teh startign 18 would help address the depth issue.


@RP... Troy left becasue he wanted to go to europe... not becasue he couldn't get a raise.

@Kevin. Kirk is Generation Adidias... while he may be overpaid for his contributions... its not by DCU and it doesn't count against the cap. Also Santino has a lot of incentives in his contract...of which I am sure some or several have kicked in, but aren't reflected in the table.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

...Right.

RP, Perkins' move to Norway was not about salary demands.

Posted by: B,A, | October 14, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Every couple of weeks, someone needs to be reminded again that Kirk is Generation Adidas, isn't being paid by DC, and doesn't count against DC's cap to the full tune of his salary. We're explaining it now; but trust me, two weeks from now someone will post "I CAN'T BELIEVE KIRK MAKES SO MUCH !!!!!111111" and it'll need to be explained again.


Anyway, McBride @ just $164k/$189k? Wow.

Posted by: Bootsy | October 14, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Stupid commas.

Posted by: B.A. | October 14, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

This is just said. Gallardo makes almost 2 million for 14 games and some of the guys who have played more games, make nothing. I really hope some of these reserves are compensated next year for all the hard work they have done this year.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Louis Crayton, DCU: 168,000/176,000

maybe dcu should charge him when he ventures outside the box. For example:
10 - 19 yards outside the 18 is 1,000
20 - 29 yards is 2000
etc etc

by my calculations Louis owes the team about 16k and he owes tommy about 4 blood pressure pills.

Posted by: bobf | October 14, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

I think Crayton's salary was a measure of DC's desperation at the time of signing...

Posted by: Modibo | October 14, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Gonzala Peralta makes more than Brian McBride.

TRAVESTY.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

don't forget these totals are prorated for only a portion of the season.
last year Collin Samuel had a price around 100K when he arrived at half-season, and then in 2008 it had ballooned to 200K.

Posted by: gherkin | October 14, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

McBride = Class

Posted by: nate | October 14, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Given their performance on the pitch, I'm thinking Cleetus and Will Johnson should be trading paychecks.

Posted by: pate | October 14, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

I cant believe what everyone is complaining about... I think Crayton is defiently worth that money - he has saved our butts numerous times. Yes he had that one miscue - but i think he has repaid it with his leadership in the back and some of his tremendous saves. Comeon people, stop dissin our players and start supporting...

Posted by: Anthony The Great | October 14, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's the comparison to Wells, but I think Crayton is a good buy. I don't think there's any doubt that the last few games would have been much worse with Wells in goal. And although he may be straying from the box too much, I think the weak back line has made that necessary in some cases. Anyway, his decisive playing is much better than Wells' indecision.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Clint Mathis signed? Missed that one.

Posted by: RK | October 14, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

@Bootsy
Good to see you took the high road in clearing up what's apparently a common mistake. If Kirk had at "GA" next to his name, then that type of response might have been warranted. Alas, it didn't, so you just sound like an ass compared to the people that cleared up my confusion politely.

Posted by: Kevin | October 14, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Why is Seattle even on a list of 2008 player salaries? Why is Sanna Nyassi among the Sounders, isn't he with NE? (There's a Sainey (sic) Nyassi listed with NE) And Le Toux, is he already with the players union?

Is that an intentional leak to the press or just poor editing?

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 14, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Kenny Cooper arguably the league's best striker --> $80,000

Posted by: Dave | October 14, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@Kevin:
if you thought Bootsy's reply wasn't polite, it's probably a good thing for you that BigSoccer is down today. ;-)

Posted by: EdTheRed | October 14, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Re: Kirk and Generation Adidas

He does make way too much money. I don't care if United or Adidas is picking up the tab.

Re: Gallardo

At 14 games he had 4 goals and 3 assists. Stretch that out over a full season and it's a respectable 8/9 and 6/7---not bad. Injuries are inevitable and shouldn't be held against a club or player's salary.

Re: Crayton

His salary has to include an entertainment clause as the guy is fun too watch . . minus his recent gaffe . .

Posted by: delantero | October 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I-270:
Sanna and Sainey Nyassi are two different players. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are brothers.

Posted by: bob | October 14, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Sanna is Sainey's twin brother. Was the 3rd player signed by Seattle's MLS club (after Le Toux and Keller) and then loaned to Seattle's USL club.

Posted by: Troy | October 14, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Crayton: Just drink a shot everytime he bezerks from the box and soon you'll not care.

Posted by: spike_2.1 | October 14, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Troy and bob. That clears it up.

Posted by: I-270, Exit 1 | October 14, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

@ GOff, on the math:

If Mathis gets three payments of $33,333.33, he makes $99,999.99 -- not $99,999.96

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 14, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

@ Goff -- Never mind. I read too quickly -- monthly payments.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 14, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if Kirk is part of the Pepsi generation. He's still overpaid in this league.

If he doesn't wake up he'll be out of the league once his patron stops paying.

Posted by: Tk | October 14, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Why would anyone care that someone else is 'overpaid' if they are not adversely affecting the cap? I'm not sure I understand the sentiment?

As fans, we can play along with the GM's and manage the cap in our basements. But beyond that, why would anyone care what a player makes? You don't get to keep the money if they don't get it.

Posted by: JkR | October 14, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Martinez and Peralta make WAY too much for what they [haven't] contributed this year. Cut them!

Posted by: CL | October 14, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

If we cut everyone who has had a disappointing season this year, Namoff would have to face the Revs alone...

What's that you say? Namoff can't play due to a disappointingly timed (yet bullmuffin) red card?

That free's up our Thursday night...

Posted by: JkR | October 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

@Kevin: There's all kinds of relevant information not contained in that salary list; it's not sensible to imagine it'd tell one everything relevant. Take a look at the DCU roster, at www.dcunited.com. That's always the place to find out about people's senior / developmental / international / GA / etc. status. Note the "GA" next to Kirk's name.

You may not appreciate the tone of my response (I actually thought it wasn't too harsh!); but after you've responded politely on some similar topic about 1,425,691,917,804,327 times, you'll understand where it comes from.

Posted by: Bootsy | October 14, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Sorry gherkin, those #'s are McBride's yearly total according to Goff's wording they are based on the annual contract. Noonan has been here about as long as McBride and is listed at $175K so they are based on a full season and are not prorated

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don't forget these totals are prorated for only a portion of the season.
last year Collin Samuel had a price around 100K when he arrived at half-season, and then in 2008 it had ballooned to 200K.

Posted by: gherkin | October 14, 2008 2:38 PM

Posted by: GLD431 | October 14, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Well I'd say the biggest bargain in that group is Edie Lewis. $108 for a top of the line left winger who has played at the highest levels; consistently contributes to the national team and can really impact a game?

Put's DC's salaries to shame. The only one I don't begruge is Olsen's after the year he had and how long it took him to get decent money. I only hope he can return to earn it. He deserves it.

Posted by: Beckster | October 14, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

wow, mcbride most likely turned down million(s) offer to resign with Fulham for less than 200K? He's really family man. wow!

Posted by: john | October 14, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Just out of curiousity, how much do guys on the Balto Blast make in MISL?

I think DCU should take a look at #21 from Kazahkstan. Dude nutmegged Rio Ferdinand in Wembley -- that's worth FO looking at the tape, no? How much can the guy be making in the Kazakh league? Is he better than Frnaco Niell? Also their #9 was a stud.

Posted by: OWNTF | October 14, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

gherkin,

Goff stated it was annual contract.

Posted by: john | October 14, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"
Someone said: "Perhaps the front office will more strongly consider paying the 100-200K salaries to Us born players who worked their way up and paid their dues their first few years. A more balanced salry across teh startign 18 would help address the depth issue."

Oh really? like who? The fact is there aren't a lot of these guys around that can help you.

Do you want us to be the Kansas City Wizards?

We have good players, they just have been injured had have not had time to really gel as a unit. What wins in MLS is consistency. All you people calling for United to blow up the roster need only look at what happened the last time they did that. Or look up I-95 at New York.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

By the way if you can find US born replacements at 100-200K for Fred, Emilio, Martinez, and a healthy Gallardo, by all means, drop some names.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Show me the article proving that Perkins move was based solely upon his desire to "test" himself in Europe and not about money, from either his perspective or the club's, and then I'll believe it wasn't about money, because Wells is making 53K this year and Troy made 88K last year.

Do you think Perkins wouldn't have stayed if the club had raised his salary 50% (from 88K to 132k, 43K less then Crayton)?


Posted by: RP | October 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Troy got 5x his salary with the move. The Norwegian club put in a bid to buy. DC could have been jerks and turned it down, and kept him at his 88k (or whatever), instead they negotiated a fair price and wished him well. It's the right thing to do. The player had a great opportunity, and DC (AND mls) asked for, and received a fair transfer fee. That's how it works.

There aren't any $500k gks in MLS (pending Keller)

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

@RP: All we have to go on are Troy's words; he never mentioned money in any article I ever read. If you've read otherwise, by all means, show us your evidence. It's you that's making an assertion here, so the burden of proof lies upon you.

If the lack of any cite of him saying money was a big factor isn't enough, then you're asking people to prove a negative, which is a logical impossibility, and thus a fallacy of argument.

Posted by: Bootsy | October 14, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

As an aside, this has been one of the longer 30 minutes I've ever experienced.

Posted by: Bootsy | October 14, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't know where to start. Bobby Boswell is still making only $33k? I guess he still is refusing more than one-year extensions, hoping to go to Europe. And Brian Namoff, a starter for many years, is still below $100k! It was scandalous how underpaid he was 2-3 years ago, but it's still not right. And Brian Carroll makes twice as much as Simms. Granted, he's had a very good year, but Simms outplayed him in 2007. And on and on....

Posted by: Hedbal | October 14, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

On Perkins -- recent article cited in this blog reported that he was considering changing his citizenship to get a shot at playing in international football. Hopefully, he'll get capped here, before that happens. However, I'd have to say that shows Perkins has aspirations in football that can't be measured by dollars earned. No doubt, the money was big for him, but he's got bigger goals than that.

Posted by: Fisch Fry | October 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Can you guys please stop praising a man for turning down millions who makes 100+k still. Not to mention he is already a MILLIONAIRE. Give me a break, these men are not heroes, for that reason too.

Posted by: EricJ | October 14, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I think the salary figures are bogus. I don't believe that McBride and Lewis are making only the salary indicated. They must be receiving some sort of "personal services" deal that is off the books. That is the problem with single entity, everything is a "Potemkin Village" in that it looks OK from the outside, but if you stop and take a closer look, you go "WTF?" At some point in time, the lack of transparency in the operations of MLS will cause fans to drop away, not because of the product on the field, but because they will have doubts about the legitimacy of the salaries-competition-rules being applied in an even-handed manner.

Posted by: griffin1108 | October 14, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

McBride wanted to come back to the U.S. in the worst sort of way for the sake of his family. He's at the end of his career, he's set financially for the rest of his life. Lewis does seem a bit low - maybe this is what the Galaxy had left under the cap who knows. Again he's at the end of his career too, maybe he'll get more next year if the Galaxy want to keep him.

Posted by: sbg | October 14, 2008 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Just looking at the basics, most money DC has spent on a keeper. Most money on a DP and most money on a striker. Ouch.

Posted by: JMR | October 14, 2008 11:54 PM | Report abuse

@Bootsy
Good to see you took the high road in clearing up what's apparently a common mistake. If Kirk had at "GA" next to his name, then that type of response might have been warranted. Alas, it didn't, so you just sound like an ass compared to the people that cleared up my confusion politely.

Posted by: Kevin | October 14, 2008 3:03 PM
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get used to this guy. he's a jerk that thinks he knows it all.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 15, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

I thought this was a building year anyway wasn't it?
Next year should be solid, with plenty of foundation already built.
Probably some tough and touchy with the fans decisions to be made in the offseason, but there probably won't be any excuses involving fixture congestion, pregnant wives(don't forget the jimmy hats), or stone cold Gelin'.
I kind of have to agree that worrying about wether or not someone earned their scratch is kind of weak. The fans deserve to be heard but the players sign contracts, and things don't always work out the way everyone is hoping it will.
I don't think anyone wants someone looking over their shoulder and telling them they don't deserve their nut, even less folks with the rocks to tell someone that to their face.
Maybe we should start talking about what the ladies are going to be making in WPS?
Peace.

Posted by: dadryan | October 15, 2008 1:22 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we should start talking about what the ladies are going to be making in WPS?
Peace.

Posted by: dadryan | October 15, 2008 1:22 AM
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Dad that would be a really short conversation. It would be me, you anw OWNTF. Coz it's just not that interesting (or "sexy" if you prefer). A lot of us ans like assessing value on what a player or manager make. It's kinda like arguing who is the best in what ever position that they play or which team is best. Or Ginger or Marianne or even Mrs. Howell. It can be fun for some of us--It is all subjective and for purely entertainment purposes. And especially when your team is in the basement, I find it a bit of a distraction...

Posted by: yankiboy | October 15, 2008 8:39 AM | Report abuse

McBride had an offer from the Crew last year to be the DP at close to $1mil a season, I believe for 2 years. He has been quoted that he requested an amount from Fulham that he thought they would not accept and he would have been with the Crew. Only thing is, Fulham accepted his demand so he stayed 1 more year there. Crew sign Schelotto, McBride goes to the Fire the next year. Chicago is getting a bargain though, but his #'s next year may be alot higher. We will see

Posted by: GLD123 | October 15, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

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