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Thursday Kickaround

*A goal for USA defender Oguchi Onyewu in the UEFA Cup, a loss and an injury for compatriot Jay DeMerit in the Carling Cup, a hat trick for Carlos Tevez against former MLSer Ryan Nelsen and beleaguered Blackburn, and an exit from Sunderland for Roy Keane. Which prompts us to offer up this collection of Keane rants, courtesy of

*Suffering DCU withdrawal? Fear not, for I am told training camp is tentatively set to open Jan. 21. After a few days in Washington, the club will spend a couple weeks in Bradenton, Fla. The remainder of the preseason schedule has yet to be finalized.

*The USA women will face Germany today in the semifinals of the U-20 World Cup in Chile. Kickoff is 5 p.m. ET on ESPNU. The France-North Korea match will also be shown live at 2 p.m. Today's factoid: USA women's soccer has advanced to the semis of every FIFA event -- ever. The list comprises five World Cups, four Olympics, two U-19 World Cups, two U-20 World Cups and one U-17 World Cup.

*Not much else on TV today, so let's look ahead to Friday:
Germany, Bayern Munich (2nd place) vs. Hoffenheim (1st) 2:30 p.m. GolTV
NCAA women's semis, Stanford vs. Notre Dame 4:30 p.m. ESPN2, ESPNU
NCAA women's semis, UNC vs. UCLA 7 p.m. ESPNU

*Internacional (Brazil) wins the Copa Sudamericana (South America's UEFA Cup) with a 2-1 aggregate victory over Estudiantes (Argentina), the winning goal coming in overtime. Read about it here, watch it down there:

*Lazio scores twice late to beat 10-man AC Milan, 2-1, and advance to the Italian Cup quarterfinals:

By Steve Goff  |  December 4, 2008; 9:28 AM ET
Categories:  College Soccer , Copa Sudamericana , D.C. United , England , Italy , TV , U.S. men's national team , Women  
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You failed to mention that the U17 MNT will be playing on tv on Friday and Sunday against Brazil and Australia.

Posted by: 17GnatFan | December 4, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Shame about Ryan and the Rovers. They started downhill, IMHO, with the permanent partnering of Nelsen with 'Walkabout' Christopher Samba, who is deathly afraid of proper positioning for a CB.

You don't jettison David Bentley, Brad Freidel, and Mark Hughes and expect to move up...

Posted by: JkR- | December 4, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

NOOOOOOOO!!!! I just learned about Roy Keane when he stood up to Jack Warner. The worst part about this is that that thieving Jack Warner will gloat about it.

Posted by: Reignking | December 4, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Steve: Any injury updates? Apparently Ben is healthy enough for a kickaround on the Mall (according to The Reliable Source):

"Ethan Zohn, long-ago "Survivor" winner, dribbling a soccer ball around the Mall on Monday -- final stretch of a three-month journey from Boston raising money for AIDS and youth soccer in Africa. He suffered a knee injury last month, so D.C. soccer stars Ben Olsen and Rebecca Moros helped dribble to the end."

Rebecca Moros a "D.C. soccer star"? Google says she's from NY and played at Duke. What's the local connection? Someone help me out here.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | December 4, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Ben has always been able to kick it around a bit during this injury. His playing career, however, remains very much in doubt. We'll know soon enough.

I have never heard of Rebecca Moros. Clearly, she is a big star.

Posted by: Steve Goff | December 4, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

In case you must watch live soccer on television today...

Setanta - 02:40PM UEFA Cup - KKS Lech Poznan vs RC Deportivo La Coruna

ESPN360 - 2:45PM UEFA Cup UEFA Cup - Aston Villa vs. Zilina

Posted by: Kev29 | December 4, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

From that photo, Gooch could have headed the crossbar, if he so desired. The man has ups.

Wasn't Rebecca Moros with Tom Cruise in "Risky Business"?

Posted by: joedoc | December 4, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I have never heard of Rebecca Moros. Clearly, she is a big star.

Posted by: Steve Goff | December 4, 2008 10:00 AM

Easy on the negative waves Moriarity.

She's a Washington Freedom player, that's the local connection. Soccer America reports today that she's one of several Freedom players invited in to the WPS combine in December.

Posted by: OWNTF | December 4, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

behind the badge has posted video of the moros and olsen event

Posted by: OWNTF | December 4, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Rebecca DeMornay, if that's how she spells it, might be who you are thinking of.

Posted by: forpat | December 4, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

I think the point being made earlier was that she should not have been described as a D.C. soccer "star".

Posted by: Steve Goff | December 4, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

If we didn't know she was involved with soccer in DC, I think it is safe to say she is not a DC soccer stay.

Posted by: Reignking | December 4, 2008 11:01 AM | Report abuse

That's the Post's description, I'm sure she didn't describe herself that way. She's just out there doing something good for a larger cause. And now you have heard of her, which is also good.

Posted by: OWNTF | December 4, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Or a star.

Posted by: Reignking | December 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

She must be in the non-WPS incarnation of the Freedom, because I couldn't find her on the WPS site.

Changing the subject: Feds approve Metro's Silver Line to Dulles. Ridership may be high if there is a soccer stadium within walking distance of one of the new stations.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | December 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Uhhhm, how bout' that 3rd Jersey?

Posted by: DadRyan | December 4, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Keane signed a boatload of players, the Sunderland squad is absolutely huge, he's got a whole first team on loan practically. One would think the club will want to offload some of these players, does anyone think MLS should go after the likes of Ross Wallace, David Healy, Russell Anderson, Graham Kavanaugh, David Connolly?

Posted by: pimpdaddy2000 | December 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

@I-270: Just say "No" to a Virginia stadium site. Unless I move out there, but this is highly unlikely...

@17Gnatfan -- It's worse than you described. The US U17s are playing both Brazil and Australia on Friday -- and then they play two more games on Sunday. I guess the U17s will play be split into 2 teams, and switch off so each lineup plays each opponent...

The problem is that the Friday matches are on FSC at the same time as GolTV airs the Bayern-Hoffenheim clash (first live, and then the rebroadcast -- do we not say "on tape" anymore?). What's a footy fan to do?

Posted by: fischy | December 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

If Rebecca De Mornay makes the Freedom roster, I just might check out some games...

United could bring in Andrew Shue to get all these teeny-bopper gals...I mean the ones who were teeny-boppers in the 80s....

Posted by: fischy | December 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Since there has been a Rovers exodus of good players (and manager), could we have Ryan back, please?

Some Blackburn fans think he's not in good form, anyway, so those folks, at least, wouldn't miss him.

Posted by: seahawkdad | December 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I doubt that Rebecca De Mornay at age 50(?) has much of a shot at making the Freedom roster.

Andrew Shue is Gracie's brother . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | December 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Fischy, the u17 "A" team will be playing at 2pm PST Friday against Australia, expect about the same lineup to play Sunday in the the big match against Brazil. If you don't see Friday, you must see Sunday's game!

Posted by: 17GnatFan | December 4, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

17GnatFan -- Is it an "A" and "B" team, or are they split into the '90s and '91s? I ask because Renken would surely be on an "A" team, but might lineup with the '91s.

Posted by: fischy | December 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

That might be old info -- the USSF site refers to '90s and '91s. Most of the '09s would now be 18. Still, it's possible that they're split into '91s and '92s?

Posted by: fischy | December 4, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

It is an A and B team. Most kids on the A team with be 92's but Luis Gil is starting and he is a 93. All kids in residency now are 92, 93 or 94. Renkin will be playing with the "B" team. It may be because he has recovered from the ACL but has a nagging tendonitis problem.

Posted by: 17GnatFan | December 4, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Great play by Washington, but what did the actual goal come off of?

Posted by: sitruc | December 4, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

The A-Team? I love it when a plan comes together.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | December 4, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

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