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Friday Kickaround

*As part of its bid to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, Chicago will submit a proposal to use 90,000-seat FedEx Field, home of the Washington Redskins, as one of six venues for the preliminary rounds of men's and women's soccer. The others are the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, the Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis, the new football stadium being built at the Meadowlands in New Jersey, Lincoln Financial Field in Philadelphia and the Metrodome new U. of Minnesota stadium in Minneapolis. The other Olympic finalists are Rio de Janeiro, Toyko and Madrid. The winner will be named Oct. 2 in Copenhagen.

In 1984 (Los Angeles), Olympic soccer was played at Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium in Annapolis. In 1996 (Atlanta), matches were played at RFK Stadium.

*USA midfielder DaMarcus Beasley will miss this weekend's match for Glasgow Rangers but escaped serious injury after a harsh challenge in the Scottish Cup on Wednesday. Read more here.

*Video interview concerning D.C. United's stadium situation:

*Video of Cruzeiro's 3-0 victory over Estudiantes in Copa Libertadores:

By Steve Goff  |  February 20, 2009; 5:00 AM ET
Categories:  D.C. United , Libertadores , Olympics , U.S. men's national team  
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An interesting couple of days regarding the proposed stadium. David Nakamura follows up the balanced piece about the stadium situation with a fair assessment of the situation.

Today's second editorial says not necessarily a bad idea, but let's be real about what the benefits and costs are. Hopefully people will read past the headline of the editorial: A Gift In Prince Georges? Yes, and the free stadium comes with the Brooklyn Bridge, at no extra cost.


Posted by: seahawkdad | February 20, 2009 6:26 AM | Report abuse

Up a little early, aren't we Goff? I'm about to go to sleep over here in LA, and I never expected to see an update this late/early.

Posted by: elrene017 | February 20, 2009 6:42 AM | Report abuse

Some pretty juicy quotes out there now being attributed to Leiweke. Google it.

Posted by: Wendell_Gee | February 20, 2009 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Re the Leiwcke quotes, very interesting. Do the Google search in Google News. Given all of the publications world-wide that are carrying the story, the Galaxy and MLS will not be unknown entities in the future. Whether that's worth much is a question.

Posted by: seahawkdad | February 20, 2009 7:18 AM | Report abuse

I still haven't read or heard anything from the usual suspects that leads me to believe there will be vehement opposition to the PG stadium project. Selling out the first season would go a long way to proving the critics wrong.

Posted by: mbetka23 | February 20, 2009 7:28 AM | Report abuse

Yeah. There does seem to be a general silence about this from what you'd suspect would be a vehement opposition.

So far The Post seems to be taking the journalistic straight road regarding the newest stadium proposal, not the clearly biased one-sided presentation of the issues that I've seen in other media regarding public/private stadium development.

Posted by: seahawkdad | February 20, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Pedalada | February 20, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Re: the tackle on Beasley, the opposing manager said: "It was definitely a red card. I have looked at it again and I have no complaints. There was nothing sinister in it though. Elliot is a bank manager and he is not that type of player."

Is "bank manager" some kind of Scots slang? Or is that club literally low-enough on the totem pole that its players have day jobs?

Posted by: edgeonyou | February 20, 2009 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Hahah, the editorial quotes a professor I had at UMBC for sports econ class I ever had. Anyhow, moral of that story was that after looking at the numbers, the costs to build a stadium outweighed the benefits. I think even hosting mega events like the Superbowl don't even bring in as much as one thinks (most host citys actually make between break even and 30 million after its all accounted for).

Posted by: doh1 | February 20, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Stadium supporters should hope that economics doesn't figure too heavily in the analysis. Bread and circus is the aim, as long as it's our circus . . . .

Posted by: OWNTF | February 20, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

We interrupt this discussion to bring you an important announcement:

If Ives can have a mafia, then Goff needs one as well. First, we need a title. Any suggestions?

Posted by: SSMD1 | February 20, 2009 9:29 AM | Report abuse

I think it's always easier to count the costs of a poorly executed stadium / team / community partnership than it is to value the benefits of a successful one.

Posted by: JkR- | February 20, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Insider Loyalists... SBI Mafia is stupid. Trying to put some sinister tuff guy crime world twist on being a nerdy, internet soccer blog commenter is hella corny.

Posted by: DadRyan | February 20, 2009 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Just a heads up but the Metrodome in Minneapolis isn't part of the bid for soccer from what I am hearing, rather it will be the new TCF Bank Stadium which seats around 50,000+ and is the new home to the University of Minnesota Football team.

Posted by: Ferdy22 | February 20, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

We could be anything but I like it Plain and Simple - The Insiders

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | February 20, 2009 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Odd that there is only one SSS included in that group...

dadryan: I couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Memo to Chicago: FedEx Field will not be standing in 2016, but you may use the Daniel Snyder EnormoDome.

Posted by: Kev29 | February 20, 2009 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Oh great! Ives has to create his own fan club and give them a name. Steve is much more secure about himself and we don't need a freakin' name.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | February 20, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I think Goff's people are called "DC United fans" for the most part.

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

Odd that there is only one SSS included in that group...

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 9:49 AM

Which one is that? (I believe the Meadowlands reference is *not* Pink Cow Park.)

Posted by: universityandpark | February 20, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I had forgotten about a new that under construction? Been approved?

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Seating capacity at soccer-specific stadiums is too small for Olympic bid

Organizers feel they can sell more than 25,000 tickets for soccer doubleheaders

Posted by: Steve Goff | February 20, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

What's unclear about the financial proposal? DC United/MacFarlane Partners puts down 25%. The remaining 75% is Maryland-issued revenue bonds. Did I misinterpret something?

Posted by: notafembot | February 20, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I had forgotten about a new that under construction? Been approved?

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 10:35 AM


Posted by: Kev29 | February 20, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I guess I forgot to put a smiley face on my previous message. I wasn't seriously suggesting that Soccer Insider readers create a banner to display at soccer games. I just thought it would be fun (in a very corny way) to brainstorm on names for a Goff fan club. Doesn't have to be a mafia - could be a posse, gang, crew, club, syndicate, etc.

In other words, lighten up folks! :-)

Posted by: SSMD1 | February 20, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Oh, I had forgotten about a new that under construction? Been approved?

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 10:35 AM

Approved? Go to the construction cam:

They've already got the floodlights at the top, and some seats installed in the upper deck. Won't be done in time for this year's season, but the pointy ball teams move in to their palace for the 2010 season...

Posted by: fischy | February 20, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Oops -- Kev beat me to it...

As Goff notes -- not using any SSS is a good thing. It reflects on the expected popularity of the event -- too big for our tiny SSSs.

FedEx Field, huh? Might be the swan song. One upside -- if the Redskins are out, perhaps they can spend a few bucks to pull out the added seats and widen the field? There could be other matches there -- perhaps DCU could use it as an auxiliary field for big international matches (or MLS Cup?). The Chelsea game there pulled in 31,000+. Man Utd could bring on 40,000+, especially if matched against another top side. Would be a nice way for the stadium to go out, before Snyder knocks it down...

Posted by: fischy | February 20, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm... I always thought Fedex Field was in Maryland not Chicago...

Posted by: fonkyou | February 20, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Also, if you want to join the discussion on the PG stadium, there's a letter that WaPo is featuring prominently on the website:

Posted by: fischy | February 20, 2009 11:27 AM | Report abuse

That stadium news (NY) must not get down to the south ;)

Posted by: Reignking | February 20, 2009 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Notafembot, I had the same question, and was thinking as you are, but was told:

"MD backed bonds pay 100% now; DCU rent pays back 25% over time and 75% paid via tax on revenue (tix, parking, beers, etc.) First bond payments aren't due until 2014 i.e. after it's built and making money."

Posted by: buck-bass-goal | February 19, 2009 10:42 AM

--so if buck-bass-goal is right, I wouldn't call that putting 25% "down."

Posted by: fallschurch1 | February 20, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

It's already "Insider Nation," isn't it?

I like Ives, but many of his commentators, ech.

Posted by: Mastodon_Juan | February 20, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

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