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Crayton and the Stadium

Read my front-page profile of D.C. United goalkeeper Louis Crayton.

Read the Metro section's story about United narrowing its possible stadium sites and Maryland political skepticism about the financing for the project.

"We're crying broke and making funds for an entertainment venue. It's bad timing, no matter how you try to couch it."

By Steve Goff  |  March 6, 2009; 10:24 PM ET
Categories:  D.C. United  
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It's nice to actually know what the potential sites are.

Posted by: sitruc | March 6, 2009 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Pot joke about the name of Crayton's hometown in 3... 2...

Posted by: Kenobi | March 6, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Nice to know the team wants a site within walking distance of Metro.

Posted by: Juan-John | March 6, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Well if DCU talks to the one politican who was on the news on Jan. 20th crying and showing off her Obama watch and jewlery and saying she doesnt care that MD is broke because Obama is president then DCU should have no problem getting funding

Posted by: BmoreFan | March 6, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

"A soccer field is 1.98 acres - so half a soccer field is about an acre."

Why do we need a 37 acre site again?

A. For the parking lot.
B. For Will and Victor's Hotel/Condo Fantasy
C. Laser Show lights directed by Kevin Payne

http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post.cgi?id=1700

Posted by: delantero | March 7, 2009 12:29 AM | Report abuse

Figure the footprint of the stadium to be roughly 12-15acres. Parking lots are always larger than the stadium itself, not that hard to put 2 and 2 together...

Posted by: alecw81 | March 7, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

I find this article to be a little narrow in scope. The only legislators that were interviewed were local Prince George's legislators. What is the sentiment in the House and the Senate as a whole. That question is far more important than the predictable result of this article. Of course some of the local guys are going to say what they're saying. They need to get re-elected. However, this is not being put to a local vote as it is a statewide bill. If this legislation is overwhelmingly popular with the Delegates and the Senators throughout the state then it will pass. Our (MD) Lt. Governor has already spoke approvingly of the project so, obviously the Governor is supportive and it won't get vetoed by him.

Posted by: croftonpost | March 7, 2009 3:09 AM | Report abuse

1) If I am not mistaken, the MD government's cost will be paid through taxes on refreshments and parking, or to be more specific, DC United and other fans. DCU has been around for 13 years (15 by the time the stadium is built), and I think their fans have shown that they are going to be around to take care of the of the bill.
2) "A spokeswoman for Metro said the agency has not received any proposals to build on the property, but they would welcome them." You bet they would welcome them. Cash from the sale and a destination for some 10K riders each game.
3) Let's see a parking lot waiting for tailgaiters about a mile from FedEx field with quick access to the Beltway which is hardby a Metro station which has shuttle buses to Redskins games. Do you think they could find a price point that could fill that parking lot 8-10 times a year?
4) Who else is building in PG County (let alone most other jurisdictions) these days. Here we have the one person in America who is interested in putting down hard cash to build. You want to say no to this guy?


Posted by: greenbeltjoe | March 7, 2009 7:24 AM | Report abuse

I am really having a hard time feeling sympathy for legislators who have been captured by the sky is falling crowd and don't see the value of projects that will start employing construction workers this year and others for the long term.

Additionally the project brings to the PG County business community two owners who have made their money by delivering investment dollars to communities that are under-invested.

And then there is the tie in to current transit oriented development programs and organizations, plus giving Maryland a mid-sized stadium that can be used by the state's economic development entities and stadium authority to bring more events and their related revenue to the state.

Why aren't these arguments being made? Why don't those with these arguments get themselves interviewed? Instead we get the normal 'don't spend public money on stadium's' stories. Someone in United's FO needs to get on the stick here and get the counter arguments out in front of the public.

Quickly. There's a city in Illinois, Collinsville, that has alread approved the TIF funding for a professional soccer stadium and merely needs a team.

Posted by: seahawkdad | March 7, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

"Why aren't these [positive] arguments being made? Why don't those with these arguments get themselves interviewed? Instead we get the normal 'don't spend public money on stadium's' stories. Someone in United's FO needs to get on the stick here and get the counter arguments out in front of the public."

seahawkdad:
You make a number of great points, and I share your frustration. However, the answer to some of your questions is-it's the Post. The reporter can always choose sources, often simply to support their already-chosen position.

Actually, I feel fortunate that a Post article on the stadium issue would contain some positive information, including mention that Metro would welcome inquiries from DC United. This is certainly not the worst article (e.g., see Marc Fisher) on the topic by a Post reporter. There is substantial useful background information reported here, it just seems unbalanced by the inclusion of mainly skeptical comments.

We do need to see evidence of counter-arguments being presented in Prince George's county. There are a lot of positive aspects to this development, as you note. However, I expect I'll have to hear about them from local sources over in Maryland. I believe United is doing grass-roots work with community people, but the Post is not likely to invest time on or report positively on those efforts.

Towson

Posted by: Towson_Tiger | March 7, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

If everyone keeps sitting on their hands and worrying this country is going to collapse. Build it, and we will come and spend our money.
You don't need tons of acreage for parking. A multi level structure may not be great for tailgating, but if it's what has to be done, then do it. Can't remember what letter the lot is that is right next to the baseball stadium... but I'm reminded of it and the stadium parking for Safeco field in Seattle.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 7, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Nice article on Crayton. It gave me a chance to work in geography and history lessons for my son.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 7, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Marylanders,

Let your elected reps know know how much money you spend on soccer games in the District. Let them know that Virginia- and District-residents will also go to games.

Find your rep here:
http://mdelect.net/electedofficials/

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 7, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

A bit OT, but several British-style pubs were reviewed in Friday's Post. Has anyone been to any of these joints? Would they be suitable places to watch various sorts of competition (MLS, EPL, whatever)?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/05/AR2009030501102.html

Posted by: universityandpark | March 7, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Haven't been, but CommonWealth sounds good because of its hand-drawn cask ales.

Fortunately for those of us in the Leesburg area who like a pint drawn from a cask in the cellar there is Vintage50 on Catoctin Circle.

Great brewed-on-premises beers and great food. Not exactly an English style pub, but very nice and willing to put a game on the flat screens. The owner said yesterday he'd welcome United viewing parties.

Posted by: seahawkdad | March 7, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Also a bit OT, but some guy named Johnson scored today for Cardiff City. Can anyone confirm this was predicted on the Mayan calender leading up to 2012? :)

CONGRATS EDDIE!!! I hope this is the first of many more.

Posted by: apqjr | March 7, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Johnson came on at 36 for an injured Boothroyd. Soccernet reports the following:

"Cardiff continued to shade possession after the interval and effectively killed the game on the hour-mark when substitute Johnson curled the ball home into the bottom corner from the edge of the area, left-footed, after cutting in from the right"

Two strong games in a row. Maybe he's finally found whatever it is he needed.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 7, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

commonwealth is a gastro-pub. More gastro, less pub. Although there is a small bar area that does show games on request, and there are sometimes people watching. I've been there for the odd Sunday morning game. So don't neccesarily go for the football, but definatly stop by for the ales and food.

Posted by: joshuaostevens | March 7, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Agree with I270. All Maryland residents on here should be sending letters to our State Senators and Delegates.

Posted by: DCUMD | March 8, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse

We've posted the emails of the elected officials you need to contact now in support of the stadium. Please visit http://www.goalmaryland.com

Posted by: GOALMaryland | March 9, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

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