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MLS Destination: Vancouver

Vancouver officials have scheduled a Wednesday morning news conference for an "announcement about the future of soccer in Vancouver and British Colombia."

Read this story for more details about MLS's newest club.

By Steve Goff  |  March 17, 2009; 9:06 PM ET
Categories:  MLS  
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good for them.

Posted by: torrey151 | March 17, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Congratulations Vancouver! It is the right location as far as fans and atmosphere goes. Next up Portland sounds good.

How about Islanders are ripping off Cruz A hole - Azul now. PR maybe closer to going to Dubai

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | March 17, 2009 9:23 PM | Report abuse

and St. Louis . . or will they try and capitalize on a regional flood with Seattle, Vancouver and Portland?

Posted by: delantero | March 17, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Vancouver United!

Just kidding folks.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 17, 2009 9:32 PM | Report abuse

287 M $US in renovations to accommodate 20K fans in the lower bowl of the stadium? I guess they're counting on the opposition in Vancouver being too stoned to attend the gov't hearings (note to BC gov't: do not hold hearings at a pizza place or White Castle).

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 17, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Is it peeing in the chips a bit too much to ask if this will bring more turf to the league? ;-)

Posted by: Kev29 | March 17, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Nice. Vancouver is a beautiful city. Lots of fun.

Must say it's great to see Cruz Azul get beat tonight.
Congratulations to the Islanders!

Posted by: DadRyan | March 17, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kev29, they're going to replace the turf with grass in Toronto if that's any consolation.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 17, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo!! TFC! TFC!

Posted by: Kev29 | March 17, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

DadRyan: ever ride the ferry from Anacortes to Nanaimo, stopping at those other islands along the way? Great trip.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 17, 2009 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Nice one. It'll be good to have another team in the NW and eventually add Portland. Here's to hoping that the fans of Seattle travel as well as the fans from Toronto (how many did they bring to Columbus last year for opening day?)

What's the latest on city #2?

Posted by: eadc | March 17, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

My understanding is that the renovations to BC Place (the stadium in Vancouver) were already planned before the Whitecaps' MLS bid picked up steam (although soccer was definitely a part of the plan too). It's also home to the CFL's BC Lions and will host the opening ceremonies for the 2010 Winter Olympics (but unfortunately the retractable roof won't be ready by then, so it will continue in bubble dome mode for a while).

Posted by: ricky_b | March 17, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm sure it's incredible I-270... Never did that particular trip, but I've done some camping in the San Juans. To this day I wish I could have done more outdoorsy stuff in my years up there... So much wildness way up there in the wild, wild west!:-)

Posted by: DadRyan | March 17, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I thought the stadium plans for the Olympics were interesting a while ago. Now that I'm reading the roof won't be ready for the Olympics, the plans are even more interesting.

Posted by: sitruc | March 17, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

PR maybe closer to going to Dubai

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | March 17, 2009 9:23 PM

Thanks a lot DCU but there is still a long, long way to go. We have to get a good result in the DF. Never an easy task for a foreign club.

Posted by: yankiboy | March 17, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

Good for Vancouver. The USL's loss is the MLS' gain.

Posted by: yankiboy | March 17, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

I've been mildly against this round of expansion, but Vancouver was one of the least offensive bids. It gives Garber his virtually required 2nd Canadian team without being in a small-time city (Ottawa) or adding a city that is unplayable for too much of the year (Montreal). I can live with it.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | March 17, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Chest, I feel the same way. I want more American (south!) teams, for selfish reasons, and I'm not happy that the SSS "requirement" seems to have been forgotten. But if Vancouver has a fanbase like Seattle, or Toronto, they could play at a high school and I wouldn't care (as long as that high school sat 25k people).

Posted by: Reignking | March 17, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Can I ask how Montreal is unplayable, but Toronto is not. I must say that I have never been to the Great White North during the, well, White season.

Posted by: bluesfan1 | March 17, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

bluesfan1: because Saputo is an idiot.

Posted by: Reignking | March 17, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Bob Lenarduzzi is the 'Caps President? How cool is that? An old NASL fan is very happy right now.


Interesting to hear they are also looking into building a SSS. That would be great. NO more turf. We have some work to do in Boston and Seattle.


Despite the recent setbacks with the Portland bid, I think Paulson still has to be front-runner. Maybe the Vancouver announcement will get things moving in the right direction again there. Everyone seems to think the Anheuser-Busch announcement has upped the ante for St. Louis, but I'm still trying to see how that's better than Collinsville.


I'm having too much fun with this post. I think I need to get back to baseball.

Fischy out.

Posted by: fischy | March 17, 2009 11:38 PM | Report abuse

the BC Place renovations were, at first, totally about the Olympics and the BC Lions of the CFL. Then as the SSS discussions dragged on, clearly the Whitecraps realized that they needed a backup option, so they became a tenant in the future renovated BC Place. But it's nice to see that an SSS is still in the works, unlike in Seattle.

Posted by: hendrix | March 18, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

I don't like the idea of the league moving away from soccer-specific stadiums. It's one thing if Vancouver still had their waterfront stadium plans in order, but it's really messed up for them to be the 2nd or 3rd tenant in BC Place. That's really not the damn point of having soccer-specific stadiums. And to be tied to BC Place for the next five years?? C'mon, this is garbage.

Toronto came in as a clean, organized bid, as did Philly. Does the league need new money to come in very badly, is that why they are so willing to bend their "requirements" for expansion cash? Have the current owners pushed for new investors to come in with fresh funds?

Posted by: Eugene7 | March 18, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

I'm getting the feel that a certain someone is a glass half-empty sort.

Posted by: fischy | March 18, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

hendrix: Qwest is built for soccer. Do your homework brah.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2009 1:05 AM | Report abuse

Qwest is built for soccer????? What are you smoking, Dad? Oh...never mind.

Actually, MLS could live with Qwest, if the Seahawks give up that stupid plastic field -- and put in the grass they promised soccer fans.

Posted by: fischy | March 18, 2009 1:56 AM | Report abuse

This is cool, I'm trying to move out to Vancouver, good timing

Posted by: douglasquaid | March 18, 2009 3:53 AM | Report abuse

Congrats to Vancouver!

That's gonna be a great expansion (location, history, fanwise)

Hope you keep the "Whitecaps" name.

Fingers crossed the can sometime soon start building that awesome stadium at the waterfront tough.

I'll be there sometime in 2011 when the G's visit!

Posted by: Ben7LA | March 18, 2009 4:44 AM | Report abuse

This decision just made too much sense. It needs to be the Whitecaps.

Posted by: croftonpost | March 18, 2009 7:07 AM | Report abuse

MLS has made the right decision with expansion to Vancouver. The policy of requiring SSS's apparently is flexible - (so what else is new) especially when owners now must fork up 40 million in franchise fees to join the league. The Canadian fan base in other cities such as Toronto and Montreal have proven to be strong and demand for professional soccer in Canada is on the rise.

Posted by: sbg1 | March 18, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the clarification on the renovations to BC Place. I didn't know those were Olympic preparations.

A non-SSS works if the team makes money. Sure, it's ugly to watch, but no uglier than Italy, where every stadium seems to have an athletic track that keeps the fans far away. OK, maybe a little uglier with the gridlines.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 18, 2009 8:35 AM | Report abuse


MLS plays in March, October, and November.

Toronto average temps for those months (high/low):

March (40/28)
October (57/45)
November (45/36)

Now, for Montreal:

March (36/20)
October (55/38)
November (42/28)

The differences aren't that much, but it's a very real possibility that a team in Montreal would be unable to reasonably play home games until late April, and would also have a hard time scheduling playoff games. Nighttime lows below freezing mean that their field will often be frozen. They could build a turf field, but for me that's an instant deal breaker.

There's also the fact that they get a ton of snow (30 or so more inches than Toronto).

Montreal couldn't play its recent CCL game at Stade Saputo because of the weather. If they could hook up a deal to play early and late season games at the Stade Olympique (which is supposed to be in pretty poor shape), it wouldn't be quite as bad, but shouldn't expansion bids be able to ensure all games are going to be played at one stadium? Going back and forth between stadiums seems amateurish to me.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | March 18, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Wouldn't it be funny if a Montreal team is sponsored by TD (Toronto Dominion) Bank, while the Toronto team is sponsored by Banque de Montreal?

No? Not funny? Phooey!

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 18, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Soccer America is reporting that the fake turf will be ripped up in Vancouver and replaced with GRASS.

NOW I'm excited about Vancouver.

Posted by: StanShmenge | March 18, 2009 9:15 AM | Report abuse

Thanks chest_rockwell. I couldn't see how the average temperatures were that different between Montreal and Toronto, but looks like weather patterns dump a lot more snow on Montreal.

Cold you can deal with, snow, not so much.


Whitecaps are going to have to coexist with the CFL team at BC Place correct?

Posted by: bluesfan1 | March 18, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

maybe MLS should look into San Juan PR

yanki where can I get a hansen jersey?

the mexican teams have a such an interesting way of congratulating the officials after a loss, seems like every player makes sure to put in a nice word

Posted by: OWNTF | March 18, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse

It's not what I'm smoking... Qwest was designed and built with Soccer and American football in mind. It was built with that purpose. The reason that it's turf isn't so much a problem with the rain, as much as it's about drainage. If you knew anything about the part of town that the stadium sits you'd know it's a freaking mud pit, barely sitting above sea level.
If you mean soccer specific, as in you don't want the field shared I get it. If the field was real grass it would take all of one really rainy American Football game to be played on it after a solid week of rain to DESTROY the field.
@fischy: Please show me a link to any story about the Seahawks promising to put in grass. I'd love to see it and admit I am wrong if you got it. As far as I know that has never been the plan.
And one more time: Toronto is moving to tear out the turf and put in grass ASAP.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: fischy | March 18, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

With all the excitement around Vancouver why has no one mentioned Spring skiing in Whistler before/after a MLS match? Or even Fall/Winter skiing for late season MLS matches?

Let's multitask people!

Posted by: jermWV | March 18, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

With all the excitement around Vancouver why has no one mentioned Spring skiing in Whistler before/after a MLS match? Or even Fall/Winter skiing for late season MLS matches?

Let's multitask people!

Posted by: jermWV | March 18, 2009 11:41 AM

I like where your head's at

Posted by: afadgsafhgd | March 18, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

WHY - oh - WHY do "live" events never seem to be posted live on

Anyone got the NON-Whitecaps link to view video?

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | March 18, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Is there a NON - YouTube version of the video?

Posted by: VirginiaBlueBlood | March 18, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Interesting to see the NBA concede most of the Pacific Northwest to MLS.

Posted by: simpleton1 | March 18, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

With all the excitement around Vancouver why has no one mentioned Spring skiing in Whistler before/after a MLS match? Or even Fall/Winter skiing for late season MLS matches?

Let's multitask people!

Posted by: jermWV | March 18, 2009 11:41 AM

Not to mention potential overlaps with the Canuckleheads and (yes) the BC Lions.

Mmmmm...PNW football weekends in October with the Lions, the Whitecaps, and the Seahawks...

Posted by: SportzNut21 | March 18, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

well fischy, ya got me. Shows you how much I was paying attention to any of this stuff when I was living in Seattle that far back... 97? I turned 21 that summer... Living up in the U-district, watching the Sonics and hardly caring about the sucking Seahawks...2002 I was living right down the street from Qwest, too busy grillin' and chillin' and watchin' on the tube at that point.
But hey if you were the Seahawks why would you replace it before a soccer team had moved in... It could happen especially with the Sounders upstaging the baseball team at this point, and depending on how well their season plays out I can see lots of converts through out the year.. We'll see. Thanks for link to that ancient news..;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse

@Dad -- Still, you're right about the grass conundrum. Sharing with a pointy-ball team is problematic, if they go with a grass field. My guess is that Qwest keeps the plastic until and unless they get to host some World Cup games. Laying grass on top of the plastic is almost worse than playing on the plastic. Hopefully, they would have the integrity to convert to a real dirt and grass pitch.

Posted by: fischy | March 18, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I've tried floating the idea of them building something at Seattle Center. I've yet to find a Seattle fan who has the imagination to see them upgrading/completely renovating memorial Stadium(where the NASL Sounders played for some of their early years?) But I sure could. I bet drainage at the base of Queen Anne is better than it is down in the SODO...
There's plenty of room to build another stadium in Seattle if the need for it presents itself. I wonder how popular the team will be, and how quickly the hype may fade if the Sounders suck this year and a few years following.. Why not tear down Key Arena and build a REAL SSS at Seattle Center?

Posted by: DadRyan | March 18, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

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