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USA Roster Changes

With USA goalkeeper Tim Howard available for the T&T qualifier Wednesday in Nashville after serving a yellow card suspension, Marcus Hahnemann has been dropped from the roster. Chivas USA defender Jonathan Bornstein was added.

With two matches in five days, what lineup changes (besides Howard replacing Brad Guzan and perhaps Oguchi Onyewu bumping Danny Califf) would you like to see Bob Bradley make?

Your choices:

GKs: Guzan, Howard.
Ds: Bocanegra, Bornstein, Califf, DeMerit, Hejduk, Onyewu, Pearce, Spector.
MFs: Adu, Beasley, Bradley, Dempsey, Edu, Kljestan, Mastroeni, Torres.
Fs: Altidore, Ching, Donovan, Johnson.

By Steve Goff  |  March 30, 2009; 6:23 PM ET
Categories:  U.S. men's national team  
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Comments

A hotdog vendor for Ching, or anyone else available.

Posted by: Shanoni | March 30, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

Replace sasha with Torres. As a whole its hard to blame one person for Saturday's night game. Seems like the whole team mentality needed some jolting. I think Altidore deserves a start. And hell, why not Freddy Adu? We sorely need creativity.

Posted by: doh1 | March 30, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Altidore Ching
Beasley Donovan
Torres Bradley
Spector Hejduk
Bocanegra Onyewu
Howard

Basically I would take Dempsey out and replace him Altidore while moving Donovan back to MF. Also Spector would replace Pearce. However I know Bob loves Bornstein so I think we will be disappointed again.

Posted by: no_recess | March 30, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Howard
Bornstein-Onyewu-Bocanegra-Hejduk
Dempsey-Bradley-Torres-Adu?
Donovan-Altidore/Ching

Posted by: unitedunitedunited | March 30, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Howard
Bornstein Bocanegra Onyewu Hejduk
Beasley Bradley Torres Dempsey
Altidore Donovan

Most interested in getting Torres and Onyewu back in, but I'd like to see Altidore get a start, too.

Posted by: cray | March 30, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Altidore for Ching. If Gooch is healthy put him in. I am not a big fan of his in gerneral but clearly the back line was worse off without him. Dempsey is in good form with his club team and is a vet so I think he should get the start again. I am not sure what to make of Beasley. I am a fan but his play was disappointing. Give him the start but if he falters again I don't think Bradley should hesitate to sub him out for torres or Adu..

Posted by: nyjer1 | March 30, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Ching Altidore
Donovan
Torres Dempsey

Bradley
Spector Boca Gouch Hejduk
Howard

If Gouch is still injured, put Demerit in. I'll be most disappointed if Torres and Spector don't find a place in the starting lineup

Posted by: Beckster1 | March 30, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

seems too soon to turn on kljestan. torres can still bring something off the bench.

Howard
The Hair - Gooch - Boca - Pearce/ an empty jersey on a mannequin
Adu - Bradley - Kljestan - Beazle/ an empty jersey on a stick figure made from wire coat hangers
Donovan - Johnson

sure, johnson sucks. but he gets minutes at cardiff—jose does not play at all for xerxes—and ching is just a constant disappointment.
by that reasoning, i shouldn't have adu in there for dempsey. but whatever. clint doesnt need to play against T&T… he can sit on the bench and write raps or something.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | March 30, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

So BSPN or is ESPN, anyway they lost champions league rights to Fox Soccer Channel. They couldn't get Premier League rights, now the lost CL rights. So much for self praised world wide leader in sports. I guess it means showing poker, fishing, hunting and baseball.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | March 30, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

*xeres… not to be confused with the god king of persia

Posted by: HWLongfellow | March 30, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

All right, I will take a shot. I want to see some of the secondary players, guys with less time. I think Bradley relies too much on the usual suspects, so I will throw a few (but not all) different guys in there:

Howard
Bornstein Demerit Spector Onyewu
Adu Bradley Dempsey Torres
Altidore Donovan

I think mixing things up is a good idea. Put guys in unusual places. Coach Bradley shows very little imagination. I think he should force himself to look at different options, think outside the box. Some of these guys will be interested in proving themselves, and I think Altidore deserves to pair up with Donovan and give it a go. Ching is aweful, and Johnson is too streaky, and mostly bad. As for defense, well, something has got to be done. How much worse can it get after Saturday?

Posted by: bstanton20 | March 30, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Howard

Hejduk Onyewu Bocanegra Bornstein
Dempsey Bradley Kljestan Torres
Ching Altidore


Don't everyone turn on Kljestan already. While it may not have been the 'A' Sweden squad, he did put in 3 goals a couple of games ago. Big game experience is important, him and Bradley are the future of this midfield (as long as Feilhaber is MIA)

Donovan needs to sit and realize that the USA team is not here to showcase him, he is here to play for the US.

Love Beasley, but we need production and he's rusty.

Ching plays his role beautifully. He's like our Emile Heskey...he doesn't score alot but he helps everyone else score (the ultimate wingman?)

Boca will be better with Gooch back there...those two work best in partnership.

Posted by: daandre3 | March 30, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Spector get some time in the back. If healthy, I think he's the future at right back.

Altidore to start is good, maybe have Sasha and Torres split it?

Posted by: eadc | March 30, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I say drop Ching, I dont know why he is still on the squad. I say give torres the chance to start, he has speed. Give Altidore the spot up front since he scored. I say we need to bring in another striker like umm...cooper lol. A bit much more dangerous.

Posted by: TheWashDipsSince88 | March 30, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Torres?

I had no idea Fernando Torres recently became a U.S. citizen.

Fantastic news!!!

Posted by: Poopy_McPoop | March 30, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

DCUnitedFootball:

That news sucks. FSC's presentation on Premier League games is bare bones (unless you count getting to hear Christian Miles between games as a plus; I see it as an unjust punishment), and they don't broadcast in HD. Tommy Smyth may too often end up yammering on about nonsense, but Derek Rae is probably the least irritating PBP guy working in this country.

***

After the awful, unacceptable performance the US gave in El Salvador (the last 20 minutes were successful due to desperation working; it was like a boxer behind on the cards getting a knockdown with a wild haymaker), one might expect changes. However, Bradley is averse to change, and in this case I'd tend to agree. No matter how badly we played against El Salvador, it doesn't wipe away the rest of qualifying (where our only non-win was after clinching advancement in the previous round).

As such, I think Bradley will pick a very similar team. I thought Spector might get a run out at left back, but Bornstein's addition to the squad tells me that a) Spector will probably be on the bench, unless Hejduk is carrying a knock and b) that Bornstein will replace Pearce in the XI. Other than that, I'd expect no changes. Kljestan had a nightmare Saturday, but against a more physically imposing opponent in T&T, I think Torres would get pushed around too easily. His maturity and skill level aren't high enough to avoid that at this stage in his career (unlike Beasley, who has been dealing with that for much longer).

Last note, to the anti-Ching brigade: If you really dislike Ching, you should be questioning Bradley's tactics; in the current system, Ching is actually doing exactly what's being asked of him. He defends from the front, he holds the ball up for others to join the attack, and he doesn't ever overcomplicate things. Unlike what we're used to in MLS (where a non-scoring target forward is probably doing something wrong), goals for Ching in this system are a bonus rather than a job requirement.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | March 30, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Onyewu will replace Califf if he can go. If not, it should be DeMerit or even Spector, since Califf was so poor Saturday. However, I doubt Bradley will get flexible here. Then again, I think T&T's style might be a bit better fit for Califf; if he can turn his match up into a physical battle rather than a footrace or a matter of skill against smarts, he'll probably do well.

Posted by: Chest_Rockwell | March 30, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

"Last note, to the anti-Ching brigade: If you really dislike Ching, you should be questioning Bradley's tactics."

fine. i question bradley's tactics.

Posted by: HWLongfellow | March 30, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I would really like to see this:

Howard
Hejduk, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Spector
Donovan, Torres, Bradley, Dempsey
Adu
Altidore

It would never happen but it is in my humble opinion the best 11 we have. I could not argue with if Ching replaces Adu (I know Adu wont play I just believe in him). Also, Ching has no ability to pass, shot or trap. He is just a battering ram.

My real argument is for spector. He has been playing for West Ham recently and West Ham are a team which now play good football. Zola has West Ham playing technical stuff and if Zola believes in him Bradley should too.

Also, Dempsey plays on the left for Fulham so he could do it for the USMNT. (His preformance against Man United and Chelsea where both from the left and were bot very good.) Donovan also needs to be deeper.

Also, right now Beasley looks about as bad/good as an average D2 NCAA winger that I would mark out of games.

Realistically, predictable Bradley will probably just insert Torres for Klejstian and maybe Altidore for Beasley. Bradley is just like every US coach predictable and scared to try anything new.

Posted by: grubbsbl | March 30, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for sticking up for the flying Hawaiian Chest. Brian Ching would run circles around all of his haters.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 30, 2009 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah. Ching's job is to hold the ball while CONCAhacks kick him repeatedly. He understands that role and plays it well.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 30, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

You guys should really stop thanking Hilderbrand or whatever her name is...Here's the latest:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/annapolis/2009/03/not_so_fast_on_dc_united_bill.html

Posted by: DadRyan | March 30, 2009 8:25 PM | Report abuse

Brian Ching has Hawaiian Mana, his bones are stronger than Haole bones. His skull is double thick like a pit bulls...;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | March 30, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Dude. I thanked her for reporting the issue to us quickly. She's a reporter, not an advocate. Given the time-sensitive nature of today's votes, she probably could be covering a half-dozen or more committees that are voting on bills. But she chose, or was assigned, to cover the stadium.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | March 30, 2009 8:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm just bustin' some balls I-270;-)
I had just randomly gone back to read the comments in her original article and found the "Not so fast" post...
I know, we need to play nice with these steaming piles the Post calls reporters...;-) Just don't start bad mouthing my boy Dempsey again...(jokingly shaking my fist).

Posted by: DadRyan | March 30, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Stadium Bill was discovered to have an unconstitutional amendment, now it has to go back to the house appropriations committee. Argh!! :(

Posted by: NattyBo1985 | March 30, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse

@Chest:
Oh no no, I was not complaining about Tommy or Derek Rae. They are my dream play by play guys, well not so much Tommy, including A. Healey. It's the rest of the other guys who suck. Yeah FSC too suck.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | March 30, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

There isn't a striker in any tactical system in the world who's responsibility isn't to finish when given the opportunity. You won't find it. Anywhere. It's disingenuous to attempt to attribute the responsibility of scoring as a "bonus" for a starting striker in an expected win game. Just because a player isn't supposed to be dynamic does not change the fact that strikers ALWAYS have to provide the ability to finish. Anything less, especially from an international squad, is inadequate.

Regardless, Bradley's tactics are at fault as well. His insistence on using such a limited option up top severely impacts both the offensive and defensive flows of the game. Ching KILLS the rhythm of the US attack every time he touches the ball. Yes, Ching can hold the ball up and he can hold off strong defenders. However, he doesn't do it cleanly, nor does he do it efficiently -- when you watch him play, he almost always takes an extra touch or two to get the ball settled on his feet or laid off to his midfield. What ends up happening is instead of effectively transitioning the midfield into the attack at a quick pace, which is the goal of any target forward that's not in a "game-killing" mode, he instead effectively allows the defense to transition back and set itself up, which is the last thing you want from a lesser opponent relying on a packed-in defense and counter-attacking philosophy. Ching has had certain games where he's provided this transition role to perfection (Gold Cup - Mexico comes to mind), but those performances have been very few and far between. The El Salvador game was just another case of a game that was far from what you want from a target forward. There's a massive difference between just being able to hold the ball up and being able to hold the ball up in transition effectively.

At this point in his career, Ching is best served as a defensive substitute up front when the team is looking to kill a game, or as a desperation sub during panic mode when balls are simply sent to the box hoping for a scrum to result in a scrappy goal. He is not an international quality starting forward. Brian McBride, he is not (who by the way should be the minimum expectation for an international target forward, especially for a team with aspirations that the US has).

Posted by: psps23 | March 30, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Sit Pearce, Beasley and Klejstan. Don't trash Ching, he does exactly what he is expected to do as a lone striker. Until Altidore earns playing time somewhere, you can't rely on him to play that position consistently.
And playing Adu? Gimme a break. Torres and Bradley with Edu and Klejstan in reserve.

Posted by: griffin1108 | March 30, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse

First get me a new coach, one with an actual pedigree with accomplishments of genuine merit, barring that, w/lineup changes, I'd want speed on the flanks, and some attacking skill in the midfield and at forward so:

Howard


RB:Heydude,
CB: Onyewu (or Demerit), Boca
LB: Spector (Consider Bornstein if healthy and match fit)

MF: Bradley, Sasha, Torres, Donovan (A-Mid)

F: Jozy and Dempsey

Not really sure how to handle Donovan, Jozy and Dempsey, depends on whether the dreaded empty bucket is utilized or not.

Posted by: graywolfe81 | March 30, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what to do, but defense looked unorganized, slow and tentative. Beasley lacked energy on the left and Ching fumbled going forward too much.

We need players who can distribute and run with the ball.

I also agree about Coach Bradley, can we get rid of him post-WC? He's been fine as a place marker and I don't think the program has really digressed over the last four years, but it certainly hasn't gotten any better.

I don't care if Altidore and Adu don't play for their clubs atm, get them some international experience now against these CONCACrap foes.

Let's try

Howard

Hejduk, Onyewu, Bocanegra, Spector

Torres, Bradley, Dempsey

Adu

Donovan, Altidore

something like that?

Posted by: mercurysnake77 | March 30, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Altidore start.

Get Torres in the starting lineup. I liked his spark.

And bring Adu and Demerit in off the bench.

OK, that's what I'd "like" to see ... but may not be the best tactically. But I'll be there in person in Nashville!!

Posted by: Cerealman | March 30, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

GK - Howard
Defender - Onyewu, Bocanegra, Pearce
Sweeper - Hejduk
Mid - Donovan, Bradley, Torres
Forward - Ching, Altidore, Johnson
Sub - Beasley, Adu, Bornstein

As talented as he is, Donovan tends to disappear playing up front. He is much more effective attacking & distributing from the midfield. Frankie is too short for the back line but can play effectively as a forward defender & overlapping midfielder. Goalkeeping and defense were issues versus Salvador, not to mention lack of offense in first half.

Play it into the Box and score Boys!

Posted by: tfshea | March 30, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Give a whole new squad a chance for the most part:

Howard
Spector DeMerit Gooch Bornstein
Torres Edu Adu Donovan
Altidore Ching

Would love to see though:

Howard
Spector Gooch Bocanegra
Beasley Bradley
Torres Adu Dempsy
Donovan
Altidore

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | March 30, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

To anyone who thinks Altidore shouldn't start over anybody,

HE SCORED>>>A>>>GO+AL!!!!!! In a limited substitution! HE deStroyed Ching's existence. Ching doen't score. END of story.

Also, Torres haters? Really? Cuz he's small? Rockwell, I usually agree with you, but Wow. I don't think this is rational.

Also, I think Beasley needs to go back to his club, start playing. Otherwise, I don't want to see him again. His performance was beyond anything I can rationally describe.(I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm betting we are witnessing the end of his career).

Also, Adu doesn't make the bench and Play... my respect for Bradley will reach sub-zero temperature. USSF clearly doesn't care, so to Hell with their judgement.

Mercurysnake... Like the lineup.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | March 30, 2009 11:00 PM | Report abuse

Howard

Spector-Onyewu-Bocanegra-Hejduk
Dempsey-Bradley-Mastroeni-Adu
Donovan-Ching

Funny how it seems that no 2 people put in the same lineup....

Posted by: fischy | March 31, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Wow some interesting thoughts posted here. First it was a bad game. Those happen and should not be repeated. End of Beasley's career. I would be very surprised, isn't he like 25? Granted he had a poor showing sat, but he has been a big time player for us and deserves a little patience. The only change I would make would be Spector for Pearce Gooch for Califf.I would like to see Torres make an earlier appearance. In addition I would like to see Altidore and adu on the field with Dempsey and Lando at some point. BTW Donovan is forward, dempsey is wide player it should stay that way. This is similiar to boys have a p---- and girls have a v-----. 4-0 USA

Posted by: Dipssince78 | March 31, 2009 1:27 AM | Report abuse

How about:
------Carrizo
Zanetti-Angeleri-Heinze-Maxi Rod....

Oh... You want Americans...

Never mind. Bob gonna do what Bob gonna do.

Posted by: mason08 | March 31, 2009 1:43 AM | Report abuse

---------------------Howard----------------------
--Hejduk--Onyewu--Bocanegra--Spector--
---Kljestan--Bradley---Edu--Dempsey---
-----------Ching-------Altidore---------

-Onyewu if he's healthy.
-Spector has been getting quality time with a decent club.
-I like Kljestan as a wide player.
-Edu is a player I think would greatly benefit with some playing time in a game like this.
-Altidore can replace Donovan. Donovan can still try to terrorize their backline late in the game if need be.

-Honestly, there's a whole crop of talent that I feel are not getting chances that will help their maturation as players (Holden, Weaver, Beckerman, Wynne to name a few). I know BBradley had to think about MLS teams this weekend. But Chivas got the win without Kljestan, Colorado got it without Mastroeni, and well maybe Ching and Hejduk could've helped their teams out, but who's counting?

Posted by: douglasquaid | March 31, 2009 2:37 AM | Report abuse

A no-brainer : Torres for Bradley.

Posted by: Barracudas | March 31, 2009 7:38 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, there's 0 chance Bradley sits his son. He's ridden him this far, he's got the job until his dad vacates the job.


I've a feeling the lineup will be the same with maybe Onyewu stepping in.

Altidore should start, and Kljestan should sit (not a straight swap, something would need to be figured out to get Ching out) but that's my opinion, even if it won't happen.

Posted by: mbhowa | March 31, 2009 8:15 AM | Report abuse

I'd like to see Torres get the start. Granted it was bunker time for El Salvador when he came in to that match, but we were much more effective with him in the match than Sasha. Normally, I'm a fan of Sasha, but I think his pre-season form right now is not up to what I'm used to seeing from him. He didn't impress in the ES game.

Posted by: Matte | March 31, 2009 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I like Kljestan, but he's obviously in a rut right now. Torres for Kljestan makes a lot of sense.

And we should go with two up top, preferably Altidore and Ching. Altidore's too good to keep on the bench, and Ching does the little things. Dempsey, Donovan, Torres, and Bradley in the midfield. Spector, Bocanegra, Onyewu, and Hejduk across the back.

If Adu doesn't at least make the bench, Bradley should be canned. At least keep that option available in case we have zero creativity in attack, like on Saturday. I concede that Adu may not play if, say, we pour in a couple goals and want to make a defensive substitution instead. But Bradley's an idiot if he doesn't at least put Adu on the bench.

Posted by: DEFPOTEC1 | March 31, 2009 10:05 AM | Report abuse

As much as I'd like to see Torres start(he showed very well in San Salvador), I think Emo is still the starter with Bradley. If Sasha doesn't get his act together by the half, put Jose in.
I really don't see Adu getting onto the field unless the US has at least a two goal lead late in the game. Altidore is another story. If Donovan disappears again I don't think Bob should hesitate benching him.

Posted by: DadRyan | March 31, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Michael Bradley was not the source of our the US's problems in ES. He'll start. The true question is who will start beside him.

Posted by: mason08 | March 31, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Howard

Gooch, Boca, Spector, Beasley

Bradley, Edu, Dempsey, Torres

Donovan, Altidore

The Beasley-as-a-midfielder experiment needs to end yesterday.

Develop Josy. Give Spector a run, since we know Frankie ain't the answer.

Posted by: anonymousinva | March 31, 2009 11:40 AM | Report abuse

4-2-2-1-1 Approach

Howard (the new Mr. Reliable)

Hejduk - Boca - Gooch - Specter ('Dolo when available)

Bradley and Torres (Torres earned it against ES) in the middle

Donovan and Dempsey (let Landycakes be Landycakes and allow him to RUN at the defense) out wide

Ching as the new McBride to be our Yank Target man (since Bradley is keen on continuing this idiocy) and

Altidore (All the man does in Concacaf is score) as the true yank striker.

Subs - Adu for Dempsey or Ching in the 75th.

Projection - Hejduk once again shows his tenacity and starts Bradley to consider making him the Yank captain.

Posted by: RegionRatDC | March 31, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

It's my assumption that Coach Bradley will go with the same lineup as the Mexico game. However, I'd rather he sit Kljestan, leave Pearce off the game-day roster, and start DeMerit and Torres. Probably won't happen though.

Posted by: Brokenbil | March 31, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

...Hmm, it would help if I knew on which side of the field each player tends to play. Switch Spector for DeMerit.

Posted by: Brokenbil | March 31, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Puzzled by lots of suggestions above; I'm not sure Spector has ever played left fullback in his career. He has played a little in the center of the defense but I've only seen him at right fullback at ManU and West Ham. I think he should start over Hejduk as both he and Cherundolo will be the choices if we qualify.

Posted by: agoldhammer | March 31, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Why don't we do something novel and put the best team on the field:

Play a 4-4-1-1

---------- Howard ------------

Hejduk, Gooch, Boca, Spector

Donnovan, Torres, Bradley, Dempsey

Adu

Altidore

Instead I suspect we will see more of the same: Maybe Spector will get in for Pierce and Torres might start for Sacha.

Posted by: mcguirbc | March 31, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Orozco should had been given the nod. He plays in the left and is better than Bornstein. Playing more competitively and in 8th place in Mexico. Technically and right now he is better too, and has more potential!

Posted by: silentbat | March 31, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

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