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Matchnight #5: United-Revolution

No reason to preview tonight's match. Apparently, Houston Dynamo goalkeepers coach Tim Hanley has already taken care of it for us. No joke. I can't imagine his column has been sanctioned by an otherwise classy Houston organization. Some excerpts:

"DC keeper Louis Crayton is poor and New England would be well advised to test him as often as possible" ... "DC United really only has one or two players that would start for the Revolution" ... "I figured out what Fred does during a match. He kicks people. That is it. Really" ... And some shots at United's investors. DCU's front office is aware of the comments and plans to handle it privately with the Dynamo.

Meanwhile, sources tell the Insider that United has taken an interest in veteran defender Avery John. GM Dave Kasper said he had no comment. John, 33, played for the Revs between 2004 and 2007, and was with USL1 Miami last year. He starred at American University in Washington and has 65 caps for T&T, including a 2006 World Cup appearance that ended with a red card. The Revs hold his MLS rights (they never waived him and did offer him a contract last year) so a trade would have to be consumated. If John joins United, a current player will have to be waived or traded. Hmmm.....[UPDATE: The trade is pending league approval -- for a draft pick, I believe. My guess is that Thabiso Khumalo is gone from the senior roster.]

In the preliminary game, an exhibition between the past two NCAA champions, Wake Forest leads Maryland, 3-0, at halftime. [UPDATE: Wake wins, 3-1.]

DCU LINEUP: Crayton; Namoff, Jakovic, Burch; Pontius, Simms, Olsen, Gomez, Wallace; Moreno, Emilio. Subs: Kocic, Jacobson, McTavish, Peters, Quaranta, Fred, N'Silu. (Not in uniform: Wicks, Janicki, Doe, Khumalo, Barklage, DiRaimondo.)

As usual, you've come to the right place for pregame, in-game and postgame discussion.

By Steve Goff  |  April 17, 2009; 4:59 PM ET
Categories:  College Soccer , D.C. United  
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Comments

errr, I don't think anyone on NE's back line could start for DC -- Parkhurst made that Revolution defense what it was last year and without him it's not the same.

Posted by: derekngsuihing | April 17, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

This from Houston? With all of 2 points from 4 games?

You can bet the League will have something to say there...

Posted by: -Niv- | April 17, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

I feel like I'm repeating my posts today but "who?". Isn't john spencer their assistant coach? If only 4 people are allowed at the draft table and you're not Dom or the aforementioned Spencer, their GM or team president then how would this guy have even been on the floor for the draft? The economy must not be bad enough if this guy still has a job.

Oh, and Fred does kick people - at least he did against Houston. Let's be honest about that...we can debate how much of it was deserved.

Posted by: LookingDangerous | April 17, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Is Ricardo Clark's coach complaining about kicking?

Posted by: OWNTF | April 17, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Saw Avery John a few time with Miami FC last year, and was unimpressed. The club considers Facundo Erpen a huge upgrade over A. John which should tell you a few things, especially about DC's plight at the back.

That having been said John worked well in the three man back line for the Revs and was poor in a four man back line for Miami FC, so maybe if DC goes back to a 3-5-2 he'll be solid.

Posted by: kkfla7371 | April 17, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

3-0 at the half over UMD?!?? o_O

Well... he's not censoring his comments, is he? Looking back at some of his writing in the past, this is hardly the most "exciting" thing he's written. In his April 1 article:

This year, the idea seems to be “get it forward and fall down.” I am serious. Just take a look at how many times Moreno, Schelotto and Gaven hit the floor. I heard someone joke recently, “I shook Eddie Gaven’s hand at the end of the match and he fell down holding his ankle.”

Anywho... Guess I'll keep an eye out for his stuff in the future. lol

http://www.centerlinesoccer.com/index.php?s=tim+hanley

Posted by: cray | April 17, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know where to get a stream of the game I didn't see it on channelsurfing.net?

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

It's on ESPN2 this time. But if you're streaming, try ESPN360.

Posted by: StewartDC8 | April 17, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Beautiful day today, I am kicking myself for not pulling the proper strings to get to the game tonight! Watching on a giant screen in HD with lots of cold, cheap beer will be nice enough though. I won't need to prowl the concourse to get my bowls roasted at halftime. Just walk out back...
Make us proud team and crowd!
Vamos United!

Sour Grapes for that Houston coach. His story makes less sense than most of my blotto ranting. How does 7 or 8= a DC Dozen?
He thinks we picked Rodney Wallace? If his analysis is so sound, how did he not notice Wallace in the game that they lost at RFK?
After experiencing sheer stupidity in some Houston fans at that game I can hardly be surprised by one of their coaches being a jack wipe.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 17, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Goff- How's the atmosphere shaping up?

Posted by: ATPDC | April 17, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, Dad, cheap beer? What's the matter, been pricing Pull-Ups lately? ;-)

Samual Adams Winter Lager (my last six) and homemade gilled chicken and jack quesadillas, that's the way to go (at least for me.) Gotta love grillin' weather...

Posted by: throwin | April 17, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

But then again, I'm kind of a jack wipe sometimes... ;-)
Come on you party people!!!!

Posted by: DadRyan | April 17, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Opps, the SAWL is kicking in already. Grilled chicken, my birds can't survive underwater.

Also, glad to see they are sitting Janicki another week. Much as I'd like for him to be available, I'd hate to see another career lost to post concussion syndrome.

Posted by: throwin | April 17, 2009 6:38 PM | Report abuse

Nice, the rooks getting starts again? Sweet. Sorry Fred and Tino... keep working hard!

Posted by: DadRyan | April 17, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Throwin, we are right in the middle of potty training, so yeah...Good call. SAWL is not bad, but Yuenglings,PBR's, and my neighbor's miller lites(he's got the big screen/HD) are how we're rollin' tonight.

I do love grillin' weather, we're headed over to the neighbor's for the weekly "you cook/you host" meal so it's out of my hands. I have no idea what they're serving... I'll be grilling tomorrow evening though for sure!

Posted by: DadRyan | April 17, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

Nice not to see Matt Reis in goal. Is he injured? VAMOS UNITED!!!

Posted by: 9Nine9 | April 17, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

First time that the starting line up is what I would do. I mean, Tino and Fred need to a little time to come back, or they won't play many games down the stetch.

As far as Houston's goalie coach, two words: Zach Wells. Pat Onstad clearly doesn't depend on your wisdom.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | April 17, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"gilled chicken"
Posted by: throwin | April 17, 2009 6:35 PM
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Those damned endocrine disruptors in the water.

Posted by: I-270Exit1 | April 17, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Tim Hanley has been writing game previews for the Earthquakes fan site for several years, and I'm happy that this will continue even though he has rejoined Kinnear in Houston. I enjoy his assessment of team strengths and weaknesses, and see nothing wrong in expressing an honest,personal opinion. He is as brutally honest about his own teams, and obviously isn't speaking as a team spokesman.

Posted by: washingtonpost22 | April 17, 2009 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I hear you, Dad. The poopie patrol is working overtime here, too. And for chow, whatever works is good, yeah?

Let's rock the living room, eh!

Posted by: throwin | April 17, 2009 7:08 PM | Report abuse

@I-270 - And I was going to blame PCBs in the Anacostia River...

Posted by: throwin | April 17, 2009 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Ew, it's s shame to see Nyassi, Dube, and co. playing Nicol's brand of "body-ball". They have too much skill and speed for that.

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm digging Benny's neon green boots. And Gomez is rocking some blond highlights.

Jaime is looking real good so far. And we're doing a much better job of getting Gomez the ball than we have the past couple weeks.

Posted by: DCUMD | April 17, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

Do Revs fans, all 29 of them, think of Ralston the same way United fans do Olsen?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see that we're dominating, but I'd rather see a couple goals. I was about to call for Francis Doe in the second half, but apparently he's not even on the bench. Can N'Silu score?

Posted by: DCUMD | April 17, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Good, however, frustrating first half.

Our last 1/3rd has been creative but unproductive.

Wallace for Burch. Tino for Wallace.

Fred in early for Pontius.

No boombox/gstring celebration, yet . ..

Posted by: delantero | April 17, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

Why is Soehn taking Wallace out and using 2 of his subs at the half?

Posted by: Beckster1 | April 17, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I missed the first half who was playing well?

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:12 PM | Report abuse

DC needs to get Perkins back...

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Great move by Pontius. But stay over the ball!! Seems to be a recurring problem for him.

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Although I'm not happy about him stopping that shot, this Knighton kid apparently ain't bad. How did he not make the U-17 roster for their championship?

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

Rough break on that goal, guys. DCU look good, but typical WTF Revs goal.

Posted by: Mastodon_Juan | April 17, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

It looks like Pontius should be kicking for the Redskins.

Posted by: pateyler | April 17, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Twice Pontius leans back. That, as Harkes said, is fixable. But if he gets a third chance, I bet he buries it.

Posted by: Mastodon_Juan | April 17, 2009 8:24 PM | Report abuse

Once again Soehn's brilliant coaching strategy has back fired and with 60 minutes gone, all three subs used and we have the aged and infirmed on the field that now need to play the full 90.

Posted by: Beckster1 | April 17, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow all three subs used by the 60 minute mark that's a good sign.

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Ahhh yes, bouncing bleachers and flags flying...

This is what attracts me to DCU

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

That's great Moreno is injured and there are no subs left...

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:30 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU, SOEHN! Now Moreno's going to become hobbled. Brilliant.

Wish I could curse.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | April 17, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

So...Whose bright idea was it to start 3 players who need managed minutes, and then make 2 subs at halftime for no apparent reason. Did I miss something? Was Burch or Simms hurt?

Seriously Soehn. That's ridiculous.

Posted by: strago | April 17, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Thompson should have gotten a red card that was nopt remotely for the ball and it was dangerous.

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

What is with these subs?? Game management is TERRIBLE !! I can't believe we are NOT crushing the REVS??? We are definitely missing our passion!!

Posted by: therealfan | April 17, 2009 8:43 PM | Report abuse

I remember when we were guarenteed to make the play-offs what happened exactly?

Posted by: bighungry | April 17, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

BENNY!!!!!


HEART OF A LION!!!!

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Attaboy Olsen!!! Tough draw, but at leastwe got the point. Last year this is a loss.

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

That would've been amazing from Fred

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Nice.

Moreno comes through again and gets his 100-100

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 17, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Goff, you got to get to the sub management tonight. There has to be a logical thought behind the manager using all three subs when you still have Olson, Moreno and Gomez still on the field... you know the three guys that are most likely to be subbed-out by the 75th minute.

Posted by: Jeffreymsoltz | April 17, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

Why did Ben get a yellow on that play? That is ia first class screwjob. That punk Thompson should have gotten a red and all Ben did was tell him to back off

Posted by: bluesfan1 | April 17, 2009 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Soehn does not deserve this team. All his input in the game was horrible, and it took Captain Caveman, who sacrifices his body every game, to pull out the game. We should have smoked them.

Though Soehn had a great assist for New England, you have to score against this team, at some point. They know how to get exactly 1, and they Love playing bunker.

Posted by: UnitedDemon | April 17, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

Olsen is the toughest SOB in the whole history of the league.

Posted by: Mastodon_Juan | April 17, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

NE has some classless players. Loved seeing Olsen stand over Wells Thompson after he scored and rub it in. Nicol is an over rated coach and he's lucky MLS is at the point in its evolution where long ball tactics can still be successful.

Posted by: newportnews | April 17, 2009 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Were the subs at halftime about the Open Cup game coming up?

Goff, you need to start rating the coach during your game ratings. To me, he would get the lowest score of the night. Second game in a row where there were poor substitutions.

Also, is there a dev roster space for Khumalo or would he be gone totally (if he is the one in question with the John deal)

Posted by: FatSickBoot | April 17, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

If Gomez connected on that ball from Wallace after some 2007-esque Emilio-Olsen-Moreno interplay in the first half, a 2-0 result seems more likely.

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse

I would pay good money to have heard exactly what Olsen said to Thompson after the goal. Whatever it was, it better have ended with either "boy" or "son".

Posted by: DCUMD | April 17, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Blue, Benny's card was well deserved. You can't grab someone by the collar like that and not expect to get a yellow. That said, I would of paid good money to have heard exactly what Olsen said to Thompson after he tied it up.

Posted by: SonicDeathMonkey | April 17, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

At least the corner flag exchange was quite audible on the ESPN broadcast. So was a shout of "No ****ing way!" pretty early into the game on that sideline.

Posted by: carmines757 | April 17, 2009 9:17 PM | Report abuse

getting sick of harkes saying burch played well and he doesn't know why he came out. wallace made burch look ok in the first half, otherwise he was giving the ball up almost every time he touched it under pressure

Posted by: dahx4 | April 17, 2009 9:20 PM | Report abuse

According to the announcers Simms came out because he wasn't feeling well. Eventually they reported that replacing Burch was simply a coaching decision. I'm all for getting Tino, Fred and Jacobson minutes, but we really rolled the dice thinking that either Moreno, Gomez or even Olsen was up for 90 minutes--thank God Ben was! If there's a trend to this young season it's that Soehn has to do a better job managing the second half.

Posted by: dcarmy | April 17, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

getting sick of harkes saying burch played well and he doesn't know why he came out.

Posted by: dahx4 | April 17, 2009 9:20 PM |
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Exactly! What game was Harkes watching? He had a shocker as far as commentating.

And BEN OLSEN. YOU TELL THAT MUG THOMPSON!! HAHAHAHA, I couldn't stop laughing.

Posted by: StewartDC8 | April 17, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Soehn's stupidity is maddening and now we get Avery John. WTF! Also I think Larenowicz and Wells Thompson should have been thrown out. Someone needs to tell Thompson to grow a beard!
Ratings:
Crayton-6
Namoff -5 (goal was partially his fault for not marking Ralston)
Burch-4.5
Jakovic-4.5(Why was he not marking Shirley Joseph on the goal)
Wallace-6
Olsen-7
Simms-5
Gomez-6
Pontius-4.5(Where did he learn to shoot?)
Emelio-5
Moreno-6
subs:
Quaranta-5
Jacobson-4.5(He looked lost on the goal, but you can't completely blame him)
Fred-5
Coach Tom Soehn=-1.5(Why did he sub Burch at halftime? Stupid move.

Posted by: no_recess | April 17, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah!

I've kissed my sister and I feel good . . is that wrong?

Posted by: delantero | April 17, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the game...I don't know what pissed me off more, Wells Thompson, Joseph's tackle from behind on Fred or the asshat with the barra brava flag who figured it was a good idea to wave that monstrosity every time the ball was at his end... blocking the view for about 5000 fans!

Posted by: srose13 | April 17, 2009 10:10 PM | Report abuse

Not in Vermont, delantero.

Posted by: joedoc1 | April 17, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

look, you're playing a depleted new england team and dominating in the first half. why not make substitutions for the players who needed subs (i.e. - simms because he was ill, burch because he was playing terrible). granted, someone else should have gone to left back to keep wallace at mid, but the burch sub was necessary the way he was going (did anyone else see the near 1-on-none he gave up?). and with new england reeling as much as they were, why not give the big 3 the chance to go 90 and get some fitness? just some observations

Posted by: dahx4 | April 17, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Harkes is the worst announcer in all of FIFA!

Posted by: srose13 | April 17, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

well, Burch was terrible. I am liking Jakovic more and more. He was 1 v 2 on the goal.

Jacobsen looked pretty much useless. Simms and Olsen have little to worry about there. Fred wasn't especially useful and Tino was terrible. So, those 3 subs didn't work out so well.

Gomez was taking way too much time with the ball, especially in the first half.

I thought Luci looked really good but didn't get the ball enough. Jamie also looked pretty good. But we were attacking up the middle pretty predictably in the first half and as always we didn't take enough shots. Especially on a GK who was giving up some rebounds. Olsen of course was The Man.

I don't know how we only got 2 minutes of injury time out of the second half. NE was wasting time all over the place and there were 4 subs and a couple of injuries. A couple of more minutes and I think we would have scored again.

Posted by: fedssocr | April 17, 2009 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Jakovic-4.5(Why was he not marking Shirley Joseph on the goal)

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I love these comments.

I'm not unhappy with the result at all. Knighton played a fantastic game, and getting a draw away from home with such a thrown-together line-up is fine with me.

Posted by: revsfanindc | April 17, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the stadium. The game was painful to watch because it seemed like we deserved to be ahead before Joseph scored and then looked pretty ineffective as the game wound down. Luckily Olsen or their last minute "just guard the post" Mike Burns impersonator of a substitute knocked in the late equalizer. It was poetic justice as that guy (Phelan?) had come on for Steve Nicol's redheaded stepchild Jeff Larentowicz who milked a good minute off the clock acting like he was too hobbled to take 2 steps off the field to the sideline.

Bad news when Jaime Moreno seemingly pulled up lame after he missed that chance at around the 65' mark with all subs already used up. But he didn't seem to be gimpy in the final stages of the game.

We dominated the first half but our shots weren't too dangerous. If New England starts Doug Warren's stepchild in goal DC should take advantage and put better shots on target.

The crowd was a bit small, not sure if Friday night or the recession or last season's swoon is responsible. It would have been impossible to have nicer weather than we had tonight.

It's too bad DC didn't organize a better tribute to the Terps. The PA system is completely inaudible from the loud side and all you could see was some young looking athletic guys in sweat suits sheepishly waving from the other side of the kids halftime games.

Gotta get off the internet now before my evil step-Mom comes home, catches me using the internet and tries to sell me to some wandering gypsies from Foxboro.

Posted by: Joel_M_Lane | April 17, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

People are really ripping on Soehn for taking out a terrible Burch at halftime? Really? Are you just trying to find something to complain about or did you actually watch that first half?

If I hadn't seen the starting line-up I wouldn't have known Burch was in the game. Nyassi owned that side of the field from midfield to goal line and torched him the entire time. If he had been subbed out before halftime, would there be any questions then?

Posted by: Josh8 | April 17, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I like Jacovic more and more. I think he'll be best 11 before the end of the season.

I have Wallace at fault for the goal. He had 2 guys to mark, but got neither of them, and never the ball. I'm a bit irked that he was back there at all. I like what he's done, but playing LB in a back 3 isn't what I had in mind at this stage in his development.

The post game show on AM1050 (motto: we hope to broadcast far enough to reach Lot 8) had Tom S saying he had already declared his sub for Burch when Clyde said he couldn't go. Unfortunate.

Posted by: JkR- | April 17, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Only Tom Soehn will use all his subs and leave 35-year old Moreno to play 90 minutes. Also, no matter how bad Burch was in the first half, Wallace was so much better. He basically owned the left side of the field. 2nd half, Soehn dropped him into left full back and effectively killed that wing.

Seriously, DC needs to get a quality coach. You may not like NE's tactics, but coming into DC and narrowly tieing is a very good result.

Posted by: tundey | April 17, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

I personally would be leery about using the subs early with Moreno, Gomez and Olsen still on the field. That said, I think folks are really resorting to some extreme judgments here in condemning Soehn.

1. Moreno didn't play last game. Olsen was left out in part because Soehn wanted him for this game. Gomez came out early against RSL. So while these 3 are among our older guys, they're also the best "difference makers" with the ball that we have and they were all reasonably rested. Furthermore, who is making the argument that we should have subbed one of the 3 of them out earlier? Does anyone really believe we'd have gotten an equal or better result if our central midfield had been McTavish and Jacobson? Or N'Silu had replaced Moreno? Or we'd left Burch on the field?

2. Yeah, it's a good result for NE. They got a point on the road and they're really banged up. But that said....

3. DCU isn't looking impressive. But what we can conclude about the team so far is:
--a lot of the younger guys (Janicki, Wallace, Pontius, Jacobson, Jakovic) can contribute (some more than others) or even be starters.
--the team does a much better job battling and fighting than last year's team. Now in part that's because Moreno hasn't put his stamp on the team and Gomez is still being integrated and Quaranta and Fred haven't contributed due to injuries. But the team is showing they can hang tough and battle even when the form is bad or key players are missing. And that isn't something DCU has been able to say for a very long time.

I'm not ready to nominate DCU has the likely team to win the East...yet. But clearly this is a team you can't roll easily. It will be interesting to see how the group looks when:
(a) we're mostly healthy, and
(b) Gomez gets integrated into the side.

Posted by: JoeW1 | April 17, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Just got back from the game. I first wanna say that the college night deal was awesome! 15 of my friends and i went for 15$ and sat basically in the Barra Brava section.

I personally think Gomez needs to sit out a while and get a lil more fit. He did nothing for us in the middle except lose balls. Jakovic I thought played an excellent game as CB. Pontius is a rookie but blasting 2 - 5ft sitters shouldnt exempt him from missing some of his shots. At the game, i was watching Emilio the whole time - hoping he would get his 4th goal - the man worked his butt off and gave it his all. I also thought the Rodney Wallace switching to LB to bring in Santino was a good decision on the coach.

But we out-shot NE 20-4.... dang

Posted by: AnthonyTheGreat | April 17, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why we need Avery John. Is it a done deal? Houston is just sore because they are the only one we have beat yet. Sour grapes.

Posted by: VirginiaFan | April 17, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

The game was completely flat tonight. DC didn't come out with hunger. Shots were off, wide, high or straight to the keeper. yea, I am getting sick of tied and specially this game should have won against Revs in poor form. And yeah I am pretty fed up with the coach's inability to win the games.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | April 17, 2009 11:01 PM | Report abuse

Only Tom Soehn will use all his subs and leave 35-year old Moreno to play 90 minutes.
Posted by: tundey | April 17, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

That seems like an odd comment given Moreno got the game tying assist. I for one was happy that Soehn didn’t sub out Moreno as he usually does. I’ll take the draw over a loss.

I think I agree with the Houston goal keeping coach that we have some obvious problems in goal and with our backline. Eventually our forwards and mids will start hitting shots and they did a great job of creating opportunities today but it does no good if our defense and Crayton can’t keep the other team from converting 60% of their shots into goals.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 17, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

I don't know much about Avery but please don't bring anymore rubbish players who are basically the same if we put anyone on the field.

Posted by: DCUnitedFootball | April 17, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I know he's still technically "old", but Moreno looks much younger with short hair.

Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Jacobson? Not a defensive midfielder. So far, two subs of Jacobson lead DIRECTLY to two soft goals for the opposition (Landon and Shalrie). Bad Idea, Tom.

And Wells Thompson, bite it, dude! Olsen continues to rule the pitch. And Wells makes him mad with a punk play in the corner! Bam! Take that.

Posted by: delantero | April 17, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Avery John is a bad idea. Khumalo will bring some needed energy eventually. Central defense is fine.

Posted by: delantero | April 17, 2009 11:12 PM | Report abuse

I know he's still technically "old", but Moreno looks much younger with short hair.
Posted by: JacobfromAtlanta-ish | April 17, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Does it make anyone else nervous that he didn’t bleach it this year? I guess his slim shady days are behind him…old man.

Posted by: Southeasterner | April 17, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

after seeing the replays, the best part of Benny's goal was when he looked down, and realized that it was Thompson he'd beaten. the look on his face was as priceless as whatever he shouted at that little punk I'm sure. I get tired of the lack of respect shown to guys like Olsen and Moreno by opposing players and officials.

and anyone else think that Nicol's pal on the bench looks like Alan Rickman aka Hans Gruber? "Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the F....B....I...."

Posted by: VTUnited | April 17, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

""Alan Rickman aka Hans Gruber? """!!!

Yes, and Die Hard was on tonight before I saw the game! Interesting that he is always telling his guys how to throw the ball in . . .

Posted by: delantero | April 17, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

This NE side is the weakest they have ever brought to DC. We should have scored at least 3-4 goals. If we take off our blinders we shall see that the Western Div.has improved a lot (SLC,Chiv.SJ,Colo,Sea at the lower end) and that the more established clubs are treading water or regressing. We DO need a change in the FO and coaching staff; otherwise the glory years will become a distant memory!(:(.
DCU since 96 and NASL,too.

Posted by: bechtoldpk | April 17, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

NE brought a weak team here last year in the Open Cup but we demolished them. This team still seems to be finding itself, JoeW1 is right on. They are hungrier and deeper than last year and Olsen's grit got us out of a jam tonight. Smallish crowd - but it was rocking after the goal, if only we had equalized earlier...

Posted by: sbg1 | April 17, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

I think there's a trust issue with Gomez that he hasn't worked through yet. How many times during the first half was Pontius totally open on the right flank, yet Gomito chooses to run it up the middle or pass over to a more clogged left?

Posted by: Juan-John | April 17, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I think you're wrong about Jacobson. If you look again, he was splitting two guys. I haven't seen a replay yet, but I saw it from the 10th row at about the 20 yard line. He had two guys there. Where was the rest of the defense?

Posted by: jsm3 | April 17, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Soehn sucks.

Avery John sucks.

What the hell is wrong with the front office?

Posted by: lastort1 | April 17, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

OK -- I"m back from the game and all that, and here to dispel myths amongst the TV viewers.

First, Burch was craptastic. It's hard to overstate how badly he played. Someone gave him a 4.5?? A 0.5 might be generous.

Wallace -- ran like the dickens for the first 30 minutes. Looked incredibly winded by the 35th, and basically disappeared from the game. He had a few moments late, trying to dribble past defenders, but didn't get too far. The one thing I'll say about him is he has a real knack for winning throw-ins and corner kicks. Of course, I'd prefer it if some of his passes actually reached the intended targets instead.

Who do I blame for the goal? Surprise: Namoff. His way-too-casual back pass left Crayton in a bad spot and he put the ball out to touch. The throw came in and the Revs had a goal. If Namoff does a better job on the play before, the goal-scoring play never even happens. Despite that lapse, though, Namoff looked like DCU's only competent defender.

Of course, the central marking was non-existent on the goal. Not sure if it was Wallace or Jacobsen or Jakovic at fault.

Jakovic gave away too many balls. He had a half-hearted jog to get in on a late corner kick. He didn't really make it into position. And, he had a casual pass in the back that almost gave away the store.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

MOving along...

Jacobson looked decisive clearing out a cross with a powerful header, and he made a great run late -- if the pass over the defense had been better, he would have had a breakaway. However, when the ball was at his feet, I understood why his French team was willing to let him go.

Simms wasn't that bad. Not his best game, but not terrible. Not sure why he came off. Perhaps it was just to produce a more offensive lineup?

Gomez was terrific -- by far his best performance. He came up lame -- appeared to be a hamstring pull -- and signaled for Tommy to take him off. Ironically he almost got a goal while he was waiting for a whistle -- when he almost beat the Revs keeper to the ball. He couldn't run, but the ball found him.

I was really wondering where a goal would come from, without Gomez in there. I was pleasantly surprised by how effective Fred was, and he ultimately won the free kick which produced the goal.

Emilio hustled...a lot. Much appreciated. Yeah, he could have scored, but sometimes it just doesn't happen.

Quaranta -- as is too often the case, he hugely overestimated his ability to score from distance.

Pontius -- like Coach Hanley, I like him. But, as I've noted before, he's going to have to learn how to finish at this level.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Now -- about Coach Hanley -- his analysis isn't far from the truth, though he's overstated for shock value. One thing I noticed about the Revs is that a lot pf their players are built the same. They're strong and fast -- and look incredibly fit. I'm not sure they're all talented enough to start for United, but they sure look like they're in better condition. And, Crayton is not a great goalie -- but, we like him anyway.

As for the trade: I've ripped apart DC's back line. Clearly, I think they need help. Our left side was killing us in the first half -- taking great attacks and pissing them away. And, they were really shaky on defense. If the Revs had beeen more offensive-minded, it might have been really ugly.

Is Avery John the answer? I don't know. If they're giving up a draft pick, I hope it's not the first-round pick. I'm surprised Khumalo is to be let go, but Tommy hasn't been using him, either. I would have used him rather than N'Silu or Doe, but I'm not coaching.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

Missed the game...watching highlights, reading stats. Looks like DCU dominated (20 shots!).

And Jair didn't give DCU a makeup PK?

Posted by: Reignking | April 18, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA Benny calls Wells Thompson "a good kid" in the interview portion of ESPNsoccernet's postgame wrapup video. It just made me crack up, because 10 minutes earlier, Benny scored and then celebrated by looking down at a Thompson laying sprawled on his back, and clearly yelled something along the lines of "ISN'T IT PAST YOUR BEDTIME, KIDDO?!!"

Made my night. Gotta love Benny to death. When he retires, I have to say United games will be a little less interesting!

Posted by: kdiff813 | April 18, 2009 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Also -- I understand why United took Wallace. We need help on the left side, and he might really blossom into a special player -- but I agree with Coach Hanley, Frei was probably the pick to make at that moment. The only reason not to take Frei would be the fear that he might move on to Europe in a couple of years.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

I've forgotten the most important bit -- Benny!!! Nice play. For a few seconds, before the kick, I thought the play was going to be a set-up for Jacobson at the back post, but then he moved more centrally. This opened it up for Olsen, and he is so clutch. Thrilling finish. I say "ha" to all those folks who were headed to the exits early. You missed one of the best moments RFK has seen. It had been frustrating because United was doing such a good job of possession, playing our game -- but without any goals to show for it. Joyous release. Thanks, Benny.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:24 AM | Report abuse

Goff rate the coaching? Come on man!?!
He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about....;-)
We didn't lose!
Benny scored!
Much better team to watch this season than last.
Crayton is becoming a liability though. I think he just might be a kook...
Hope to Bob Marley there's a better replacement than Wicks...
Did someone say bring Perkins back????!!!!!?????
#8 could have some promise. We've really got some young guys in our midst that seem pretty gifted. It's kind of a shame to see McT and Burch not doing so hot.

@Mastodon Juan: Thanks for caring, and sharing... Much respect for giving some where it's due though jerk...;-)

Posted by: DadRyan | April 18, 2009 12:32 AM | Report abuse

@fischy:& everyone....
This felt like another win that was but a draw.... Same stupid ref, no doubt. Less his fault this time. Olsen could have been thrown out of the game. And Namoff's early handball/ no call in the box looked close to a pk to me had anyone seen it....

The whole league is going to think Benny is a dick for his "in yo face" but oh well...

Posted by: DadRyan | April 18, 2009 12:37 AM | Report abuse

I understand the criticisms directed at Soehn concerning the lack of substitutions for the elder players. However, where would United be tonight if Olsen had been subbed? In addition, when Moreno is not in the game where is the playmaking creativity in the offensive third? They may be old but I don't see viable replacements for either on the roster.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 18, 2009 12:39 AM | Report abuse

@Dad -- I thought the ball played Namoff. Looked to me that he was turning to get his back in the way. Good "no call".

@Crofton -- yeah, the kids aren't there, yet. Maybe they'll be ready to step up in a year, but I bet DCU goes outside the organization to bring in some real star-power.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 12:50 AM | Report abuse

@fischy: have you seen the replay of Namoff yet? On tv it looked a little suspicious.

Posted by: DadRyan | April 18, 2009 12:57 AM | Report abuse

fischy,

I agree. They almost have to. The answer just doesn't look like it will come from within.

Posted by: croftonpost | April 18, 2009 12:58 AM | Report abuse

I thought Fred dived on the play where he earned the freekick that led to the game-tying goal.

Benny's gesture toward Thompson after the goal was priceless. Lawrentowicz and Thompson are punks.

JoeW, who were we missing of consequence?

The Revs were missing seven starters, dude!

We need to learn how to finish.

We needed the three points at home.

Tommy must go!

Posted by: billindmd | April 18, 2009 6:56 AM | Report abuse

Revs were not missing 7 starters. They were missing 6 players, and they're not all starters. Still, they weren't at full strength, in any sense. United should have taken the points, but couldn't figure out how to take a really solid shot at goal, for 90 minutes. Olsen and Moreno took good shots, but right at the goalie. The others were off frame, or half-volleys of loose balls -- the kind that might have sneaked in, but were nothing to write home about. ONe good cross from Wallace lacked a finisher in the 1st half. Ditto on a cross by Pontius in the 2nd. They should have created more and better chances.

Posted by: fischy | April 18, 2009 8:39 AM | Report abuse

He is right, Crayton sucks...

Posted by: alan19 | April 18, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Tim might be right about one thing:

If you don’t trust the coach and his staff, make the change — otherwise, get out of the locker room.

Posted by: jermWV | April 20, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

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